[MikeS]

(04-13-2019 12:13 PM)tomtud Wrote:  

The social contract sort of speak of men protecting women they don’t know has been eliminated practically in western society. Why would I protect her from unwanted stares when some idiot can stab me or what have you.

A possible remedy...... make prostitution legal everywhere. Guys will get their needs met somewhat and won’t look at so many women.

Prostitution is legal and cheap in plenty of Western countries (eg. Germany, Austria, Holland, Greece, Spain etc., and in effectively a low-risk legal grey area in numerous other places).
Doesn't change much or anything in general attitudes towards sex and women, or the feminization of many or most of those countries. Women's value remains highly inflated thanks to social media and online dating, and I can guarantee you that virtually no woman in those countries feel that she's competing with prostitutes for men's attention (I suspect things might be a little different in that regard in some other areas of the world, like Thailand).
Just as I suspect the majority of low-smv men (for some reason) would rather go sexless for months or years than pay a very modest sum for the occasional services of a hooker.

[Captainstabbin]

(04-13-2019 08:59 PM)MikeS Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 12:13 PM)tomtud Wrote:  

The social contract sort of speak of men protecting women they don’t know has been eliminated practically in western society. Why would I protect her from unwanted stares when some idiot can stab me or what have you.

A possible remedy...... make prostitution legal everywhere. Guys will get their needs met somewhat and won’t look at so many women.

I can guarantee you that virtually no woman in those countries feel that she's competing with prostitutes for men's attention (I suspect things might be a little different in that regard in some other areas of the world, like Thailand).

If they feel no competition with real hookers, I guess the robo-slut market won't make an impact either.

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

(04-13-2019 05:32 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

Let's not forget.
If I see an individual with a penis & a business suit ogling another person with boobs & a dress (or more likely bloody yoga pants...).

Who am I to assume the gender of either party...?

What if the one with the suit & penis ID's as female & the one with boobs & a dress ID's as male?

A rather clownish scenario I'd say...

As an aside, when I was a noob on RVF, I wasn't sure what the official process was to declare a post POTD.

Now, in clown world, I don't care! Also, I know it's an emoticon anyone can use.

[yankeetravels]

One common theme I'm finding in things like that is that women think men never face any danger when out in public. Or never worry about things that women can do to them. The difference is we recognize the realistic percentages of that happening to us while I think women assume the worst for the 80% of men they're not attracted to. They don't understand that there's small apples and oranges danger, but little chances of danger nonetheless.

Women really need to read male solo travel stories. Or stories of male hookups with women that go wrong. If you want freedom, you usually have to go through adversity to get it. That's the way of the world, male or female. I don't think women know the stories and precautions men face when moving abroad, all for a shot at a better life and to discover the world. And I'm not asking them to. It's just very hypocritical with the female empowerment stuff they like to shit out of their mouths and then they want men to do their dirty work for them. And we all know women would never do the same in reverse situations unless it's your mother or sister, and maybe not even then. So give me a fucking break.

I've stared in the face of a couple men that I knew would be willing to kill me at a moment's notice. I'm sure a lot of you guys have to. Women think every guy that finds them attractive and sneaks a glance might rape or kill them (at least that's what they say in public in defense of these commercials). I don't think women have been around enough truly bad people to know when someone truly would want to rape or kill them. It's a lot of feelings because of physical (and maybe even mental) insecurity in my opinion. Now, I think we can all admit a very small percentage of men take this to the extreme and actually do horrible things these women claim, but we have all checked out women at some point in our life with what I'm sure was no intention to hurt or do worse to them. Just simply found her attractive.

I'd like to see men respond to these claims with the false rape claims they face from certain women, financial blackmail, drugging men to rob them (looking at you Cardi B), flirting with a man to lead him to a group of violent men, long term asset theft, the list goes on. Not to mention from a safety standpoint or "stares", I remember once I accidentally made eye contact with a dude in the Philippines and as soon as it happened, I saw him RUN towards my jeepney to try to sell me his shuttle service. I said no and brushed him off. I'm not gonna go make a fucking campaign video about that shit and if a man brought this shit up, he'd be laughed off the floor. Because it's really not that big of a deal. Just have some common sense.

[Bazzwaldo]

(04-13-2019 10:36 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

Ughhh.
Everyone is too busy staring into their damned phones these days anyway...

[url=https://twitter.com/amandaasette/status/1116388881253969920][/url]

Sassy asks us to be an ally to women, just like the cuckold SJW who protects the ‘lady’…fuck you Sassy, go take another look in the mirror and ask your syphilitic fucked up self what happens when you let government educate you on sexual etiquette?
You get further division of the genders, lower hook-ups leading to lower birth-rates which leads to higher immigration for cultural enrichment purposes.
They obtain a cheaper labour force for their handlers of non-assimilating thot gropers looking for cunts like you!
Female victims and white male protagonists, thank you government for yet another act of cultural tyranny…fucking traitors and again, fuck you Sassy

[bk19xsa]

^This might be true. Women at the end will rather share themselves with the top of the top male regardless of their own value. They will prefer to pass their genes to those males.

If 90 percent of male population gets engulfed in prostitution or robo sex dolls, then most women will move to the male who does not need a robo sex doll. That kind of male will probably be a man with top of the top SMV, resources and power. Any guesses to the kind of males that will have these things? Probably the ones that are currently in the power, money and looks seats.

If things go on like this ad suggests, then the male population actually fucking real women will keep shrinking. The top males and women will be the ultimate decision makers for everyone. They both will push for more laws that allow women to slut it out to the top males to get their sperm.

What happens to women psychologically when they do this and what repercussions this has on the society in general are whole different matters.

[Rorogue]

(04-14-2019 12:21 AM)bk19xsa Wrote:  

^This might be true. Women at the end will rather share themselves with the top of the top male regardless of their own value. They will prefer to pass their genes to those males.

Only thing is they're not actually having the offspring of those men. They want to 'take the seed' of these men because it makes them feel biologically alive, then be on the pill/abort it.

No work or responsibility on their part. Just taking.

They have essentially no value.
Yet men for some reason should give a shit about them and rescue them.

[JackinMelbourne]

(04-13-2019 12:54 PM)The Stronger Sex Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 12:13 PM)tomtud Wrote:  

Why would I protect her from unwanted stares when some idiot can stab me or what have you.

A possible remedy...... make prostitution legal everywhere. Guys will get their needs met somewhat and won’t look at so many women.

Rape still exists in countries where prostitution is legal.

Staring is rape? Is poster a female?

[Lovinglife]

Another "Respect your Masters (women)" ad by the Australian Government paid by Australian tax payers.

Australia has turned into the biggest cuckold country!

[Speculation]

Rather than get wound up up it, treat these women like you would a bum asking you for $1 for the bus. Say no/ignore them and go on with your day.

Of course entitled people are going to ask for hand outs of money or service to fix the smallest of their problems. These people will always exist. You have no obligation to social contracts that have been broken for a generation. Save your energy and resources for those you consider deserving (if any) and ignore the rest.

This is just another symptom of a low trust society that is bereft of social capital. But its only going to get worse from here, so you're better off focusing on your own life and that of your loved ones than worrying about what the clown brigade is up to.

[The Stronger Sex]

(04-14-2019 01:04 AM)JackinMelbourne Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 12:54 PM)The Stronger Sex Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 12:13 PM)tomtud Wrote:  

Why would I protect her from unwanted stares when some idiot can stab me or what have you.

A possible remedy...... make prostitution legal everywhere. Guys will get their needs met somewhat and won’t look at so many women.

Rape still exists in countries where prostitution is legal.

Staring is rape? Is poster a female?

No, but if it doesn't stop (genuine) rape it's not going to stop some guy from supposedly "staring" at some post-wall harpy.

[The Stronger Sex]

(04-14-2019 12:14 AM)Bazzwaldo Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 10:36 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

Ughhh.
Everyone is too busy staring into their damned phones these days anyway...

[url=https://twitter.com/amandaasette/status/1116388881253969920][/url]

Sassy asks us to be an ally to women, just like the cuckold SJW who protects the ‘lady’…fuck you Sassy, go take another look in the mirror and ask your syphilitic fucked up self what happens when you let government educate you on sexual etiquette?
You get further division of the genders, lower hook-ups leading to lower birth-rates which leads to higher immigration for cultural enrichment purposes.
They obtain a cheaper labour force for their handlers of non-assimilating thot gropers looking for cunts like you!
Female victims and white male protagonists, thank you government for yet another act of cultural tyranny…fucking traitors and again, fuck you Sassy

Just to put things in perspective, she calls herself "Sassy sunflower". Sassy. Fucking. Sunflower. It really makes you take her seriously.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(04-13-2019 01:40 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  

There was an incident at my local convenience store here a bit ago. It's in a bad neighborhood and sometimes there is only 1 (younger) girl working the register late at night. The kind of store where 5-10 meth addicts while openly deal drugs outside of around the 1AM mark. Why the police don't bust that up I'm unsure.

Anyway the night of the incident there were 2 young girls working. The story I got was a tall black patron was angered that they wouldn't break a large bill in front of several other male patrons. The angry black fella proceeded to hit (balled fist) and rough the girls up a bunch. (I know one of them probably gave the dude attitude but I'm sure homeboy didn't need to hit em). Nobody was seriously injured as I hear but the second the attack broke out all the male patrons left the store.

I of course get this story through the grapevine through guys in my hood. Every single one of them without fail accused the leaving men of being bitch made and "I would have done X" and "that wouldn't have happened with me there".

Now it took me the walk home after hearing the final rendition of the story from the store clerk to really think about what I would do. I am sure all the people saying what they would have done are just posturing trying to seem like a masculine protector of women. I know they're not about shit and wouldn't have done shit. But in the end I figured if I was carrying my CCW and that happened I would have stepped in, I'm pretty comfortable and train weekly with it, have strong spatial awareness and have no qualms about pulling the trigger in defense of my life. And I really don't want to see innocent 20 something girls hurt for doing their jobs.

But my other thought was if I wasn't packing I would have probably just left. I'm not getting into a potentially fatal fist fight (not trained in MMA, just some early years of boxing, I go to the ground I'm getting smashed). My reasoning was I don't owe these girls anything, they aren't my people. And all it takes is an unfortunate combination of blow for someone to die in a fist fight/ground and pound. So yeah I would've left.

Anyway this thread reminded me of that because I don't think men are necessarily "turned off" of white knighting because all the men expressed they would have done it "had they been there". I think men are just pussies nowadays. They lack the ability not the will.

It's a sad day when you look around you and realise that your society is simply filled with completely disconnected strangers with no bonds to one another whatsoever other than the entities they pay taxes to under the flag those entities claim authority by. A civnat wet dream.

The acid test for a healthy society that Eugenics has revealed there is a reality in most Western nations with the exception of rural areas when I can assure you some piece of shit attacking a female store clerk would be ambushed with whatever was at hand and beaten into a lengthy hospital stay. I'm sure some will say that I'm one of those blowhards that Eugenics was talking about but none of the men out here would live it down if they simply walked away. It would dog them the rest of their days.

About after my 6th year in the sticks I was in the city with my family going to a movie and afterward we went to get some junk food at the McDonalds. While I was waiting to order some drugged out nut-job piece of human shit wandered in and started screaming at everyone and everything in the store. The usual monologue raging at the world and everyone in it like a rabid dog. I looked around and lo and behold spotted one of the other family men living in my town. He was standing in front of his wife and kids, I was standing in front of mine and we shared a moment of eye contact I'll never forget. It said "if this guy kicks off in a way that endangers either of our families or each other then we're going to fucking destroy him, agreed? Agreed."

For anyone that has never experienced this it's an impossible thing to explain. I was in a restaurant filled with people but until I saw that one guy I was functionally alone, and even just having that one guy committed to helping me made me feel like I had an entire army at my back.

[MikeS]

(04-13-2019 10:32 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 08:59 PM)MikeS Wrote:  

(04-13-2019 12:13 PM)tomtud Wrote:  

The social contract sort of speak of men protecting women they don’t know has been eliminated practically in western society. Why would I protect her from unwanted stares when some idiot can stab me or what have you.

A possible remedy...... make prostitution legal everywhere. Guys will get their needs met somewhat and won’t look at so many women.

I can guarantee you that virtually no woman in those countries feel that she's competing with prostitutes for men's attention (I suspect things might be a little different in that regard in some other areas of the world, like Thailand).

If they feel no competition with real hookers, I guess the robo-slut market won't make an impact either.

Certainly not until a large percentage of men are openly banging robots - and they are not even doing that with hookers (no idea what percentage of men have tried that, but most probably don't share the stories), despite prostitution supposedly being the oldest profession in the world.

I think nothing short of major wars or massive disasters are likely to reverse the current trends in society. Getting critical mass of men red-pilled and banding together to reverse more traditional values seems extremely unlikely in countries that have already slid too far into decay.
It's not that I really want to be one of the enjoy-the-decline guys (and I don't really think of myself as such), but I'm not sure better options are very realistic at this point in most of Europe (including east) and the US.

[torridon747]

@lenny

I've been in situations like that with friends where we all have an understanding if shit pops off we got each other. A brotherhood and bond helps a lot. But around my neck of the woods unless someone is from your neighborhood or straight up levels with you real quick that would never happen, even if they knew you from the neighborhood probably still wouldn't happen.

There's numerous examples in modern times of people being completely bitch made. And then every asshole and their brother says what they woulda done. 9/11? Those inbred Arabs has box cutters and there were enough men on that plane to do something, they didn't. What happens after the heat dies down? "Oh I would've tackled them" "I would've recruited so and so" in a Dave Chapelle and another bit by key and Peele try to say if there was black people on there they woulda stopped it.

Nah. Everybody is too selfish and weak now. I could see if it was some skinny tweaker and some family men I could see that. Plus our Western women aren't worth it. It's sad, sex is the great motivator that fuels civilization and we've let our women get to a point where even that doesn't make you grow a pair. Why, for what? So you can get put in the hospital and the girl and neither her family will even come see you and say thanks.

Make your own tribe cuz the shit going on in the west makes having an informal communal safety and protection agreement impossible. You stop a fight or end one you're looking at a. The hospital b. Criminal charges or c revenge/death. Nobody is gonna cheer and bitches aren't going to reward you. No point to it in my opinion.

[Robert High Hawk]

A few questions to those familiar with Victoria, Australia: Is there very little to no crime there? Are all the city services running perfectly? No tax evasion?

Surely that must be the case if the police are spending the time, energy, and resources to conceive of, produce, distribute, and then enforce this kind of thing. Life must be perfect there if that's what the police have time to spend on.

I'm only half joking here, in very law abiding societies, the cops DO get bored and come up with minor infractions (ie: littering) to enforce. It's certainly possible that's the case in Victoria, hence the somewhat sarcastic question.

In Germany when the media became ridiculously obsessed with Trump coverage, where even news about Jared Kushner would make prime-time news or front page coverage, I would ask the exact same question. Living there at the time, I knew that things were NOT perfect in Germany, and this was a pathetic distraction that many Germans took to in order to help ignore the rather glaring systematic issues facing the country, all of which were of far greater consequence to almost any news about Trump.

Back to the police ad: If you shake your head at some random aggressive dude on a train, you are asking for trouble. What if the "leerer" has friends with him and he starts talking shit to you? Now you're in a position where you need to back down like a bitch, or perhaps escalate further leading to a fight. Over some chick who doesn't have the emotional strength to ignore/confront some dude staring at her - or just move herself to another location - or just wait until her stop hits.

Anyway, TL;DR .... who has time for this nonsense?

[Mr. Wolf]

If I saw that attempted MTF on public transit I'd probably be staring too. Very weird looking, almost 95% certain it was XY.

[CynicalContrarian]

(04-14-2019 03:59 PM)Robert High Hawk Wrote:  

A few questions to those familiar with Victoria, Australia: Is there very little to no crime there? Are all the city services running perfectly? No tax evasion?

Surely that must be the case if the police are spending the time, energy, and resources to conceive of, produce, distribute, and then enforce this kind of thing. Life must be perfect there if that's what the police have time to spend on.

I'm only half joking here, in very law abiding societies, the cops DO get bored and come up with minor infractions (ie: littering) to enforce. It's certainly possible that's the case in Victoria, hence the somewhat sarcastic question.

In Germany when the media became ridiculously obsessed with Trump coverage, where even news about Jared Kushner would make prime-time news or front page coverage, I would ask the exact same question. Living there at the time, I knew that things were NOT perfect in Germany, and this was a pathetic distraction that many Germans took to in order to help ignore the rather glaring systematic issues facing the country, all of which were of far greater consequence to almost any news about Trump.

Back to the police ad: If you shake your head at some random aggressive dude on a train, you are asking for trouble. What if the "leerer" has friends with him and he starts talking shit to you? Now you're in a position where you need to back down like a bitch, or perhaps escalate further leading to a fight. Over some chick who doesn't have the emotional strength to ignore/confront some dude staring at her - or just move herself to another location - or just wait until her stop hits.

Anyway, TL;DR .... who has time for this nonsense?

It seems Melbourne, Australia is rapidly becoming / has become a Portland / Portlandia equivalent.
Plus it has plenty of African migrant gang violence & mass vegan protestor nonsense to add to its "charm"...

If I recall, the first equivalent to a U.S. Congressman for the Green party in Australia, was spawned out of Melbourne.

[Tex Cruise]

(04-14-2019 04:28 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

...we shared a moment of eye contact I'll never forget. It said "if this guy kicks off in a way that endangers either of our families or each other then we're going to fucking destroy him, agreed? Agreed.

I had a similar thing in my local about a year ago. Maybe four or five of us in the bar plus the barman. A traveller comes in. Skinny, covered in tatts, unwashed, and literally twitching off his dial. A crazed, murderous rage in his eyes I've never seen before, like he's really working hard to hold it together and get some drinks without exploding. Glances went around the now silent bar that said "Be on your toes, boys"
The barman had to go out the back to get his order, which I'm sure you can already guess was four cans of whiskey and cola.
After a few seconds of very tense silence, which I figured was only going to make him worse, and being that he was standing between me and the bloke I had been talking to, and directly in my line of sight to the tv, I made the decision to very calmly engage him.
"s'goin mate? On your way through?"
I watched as his drug fucked brain processed what was going on before he replied
"Yeah mate, just heading to [city]"
I knew this was a risky thing to do, that if my expression or tone could at all be misconstrued, shit would hit the fan. I also knew just from the glances of the other patrons that if he so much as moved suddenly, it would be raining barstools on his head in an instant.
The barman returned and placed the four pack on the bar.
"Ah well, got a few roadies, you're set now" I said
"That's it" he replied and cracked a very slight smile
This was a critical moment because for some reason, a lot of people seem to expect booze at supermarket chain prices in a country pub and get pissed off when they hear the price. But he paid in cash, said "Seeya fellas" and headed on his way, probably to kill someone.

The other guys in the bar were not my close friends, I can't remember if I even knew them all, but the most subtle of glances was enough to be sure that we were all on the same page.

[Rorogue]

Had lived there my whole life basically until 3 months ago- moved 2 hours out to a beach town.

Crime is a huge problem there. Drugs and poverty as well.
Many live miserable lives of quiet desperation. Cost of living is outrageous.

Men are on edge there. I do day game and wouldn't think of going out to a bar/club at night. Sexually frustrated, beaten down and emasculated men, combined with drugs and alcohol= random violence.

As for cops/law, different fines of different sorts come up all the time.
parking fines are double what they used to be a few years ago.
$400 fine for being caught driving with your phone, as silly as that is now with Bluetooth/hands free.

It's a city run by radical feminists and homosexuals, totally out of touch with reality. Hence these ads.

Only think keeping men from losing it totally, are the abundance of Asian 'massage' places on literally every strip of every suburb (I'm not advocating it, it's just hilarious how many there are these days). When I was in Melb I'd see men in their 20s, 30s, 40s and older walk in there.

Yes, everything I hear about cities like Seattle, San Fransisco and Toronto, is what Melbourne is like.

(04-14-2019 03:59 PM)Robert High Hawk Wrote:  

A few questions to those familiar with Victoria, Australia: Is there very little to no crime there? Are all the city services running perfectly? No tax evasion?

Surely that must be the case if the police are spending the time, energy, and resources to conceive of, produce, distribute, and then enforce this kind of thing. Life must be perfect there if that's what the police have time to spend on.

I'm only half joking here, in very law abiding societies, the cops DO get bored and come up with minor infractions (ie: littering) to enforce. It's certainly possible that's the case in Victoria, hence the somewhat sarcastic question.

In Germany when the media became ridiculously obsessed with Trump coverage, where even news about Jared Kushner would make prime-time news or front page coverage, I would ask the exact same question. Living there at the time, I knew that things were NOT perfect in Germany, and this was a pathetic distraction that many Germans took to in order to help ignore the rather glaring systematic issues facing the country, all of which were of far greater consequence to almost any news about Trump.

Back to the police ad: If you shake your head at some random aggressive dude on a train, you are asking for trouble. What if the "leerer" has friends with him and he starts talking shit to you? Now you're in a position where you need to back down like a bitch, or perhaps escalate further leading to a fight. Over some chick who doesn't have the emotional strength to ignore/confront some dude staring at her - or just move herself to another location - or just wait until her stop hits.

Anyway, TL;DR .... who has time for this nonsense?

[CynicalContrarian]

(04-14-2019 07:54 PM)Rorogue Wrote:  

...
Yes, everything I hear about cities like Seattle, San Fransisco and Toronto, is what Melbourne is like.
...

I've heard Joe Rogan state that the grey skies of Seattle & Portland add to depression from both a lifestyle & lack of vitamin D aspect.
Would not be surprised if the stereotypical "Melbourne weather" is part of the reason.

[Rorogue]

(04-14-2019 08:04 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

(04-14-2019 07:54 PM)Rorogue Wrote:  

...
Yes, everything I hear about cities like Seattle, San Fransisco and Toronto, is what Melbourne is like.
...

I've heard Joe Rogan state that the grey skies of Seattle & Portland add to depression from both a lifestyle & lack of vitamin D aspect.
Would not be surprised if the stereotypical "Melbourne weather" is part of the reason.

Possibly, although before the radical feminism started taking over in 2012-2013, I quite liked the cold, grey weather in Autumn/winter. At Uni (07-09) couples would snuggle up together in the library. People would pair up for winter, large groups of friends would sip hot mochas together. Now there is not much of that. A woman is too busy swiping on tinder, and imagining herself as oppressed, to form a bond. And men are too busy trying to stay out of the incel zone to make friends with other men.

Weather doesn't help, though.

[Lockwood]

(04-14-2019 05:24 PM)Mr. Wolf Wrote:  

If I saw that attempted MTF on public transit I'd probably be staring too. Very weird looking, almost 95% certain it was XY.

Yep, I think he was trying to figure out what it was.

[StrikeBack]

My wife and I stare at those miserable bitches all the time. They make good case studies for us to learn what happens when women follow feminism instead of God's design. We live in the same city this ad is about, and there is an abundance of such terrible warnings.

[StrikeBack]

(04-14-2019 03:59 PM)Robert High Hawk Wrote:  

A few questions to those familiar with Victoria, Australia: Is there very little to no crime there? Are all the city services running perfectly? No tax evasion?

Surely that must be the case if the police are spending the time, energy, and resources to conceive of, produce, distribute, and then enforce this kind of thing. Life must be perfect there if that's what the police have time to spend on.

I'm only half joking here, in very law abiding societies, the cops DO get bored and come up with minor infractions (ie: littering) to enforce. It's certainly possible that's the case in Victoria, hence the somewhat sarcastic question.

Actually our police have plenty of crimes that they should attend to, but since the perps are mostly too diverse (African gangs invading people's homes, Muslim gangs etc.) they pretend those crimes don't exist and go after nonsense like this, or collect revenues via speed cameras.