Spain and Spanish women & Speaking with a "Gringo", Italian, or Mexican Accent?
04-02-2019, 09:55 PM
I'm North American, living in Wrocław Poland, and over the past few weeks I've happened to totally penetrate into a Spanish social circle of Spanish expats.
I've been "acquainted" with some guys and gals from this Spaniard social circle for around 6 months, but as of the last two weeks I've seemingly been completely accepted as a part of their social circle. As beta as it sounds, it's is actually really nice to feel like part of a group, especially one with such a similar language and culture to my own.
Here's the thing though: I speak Spanish in an unmistakably Latin American way. My grammar, and vocabulary are completely Latin American, and I speak (without paying attention at all to this,) with an accent that always makes Spaniards ask if me or my parents are Mexican.
At first, I kept my Spanish "neutral" in the sense that I would say, "amigo" and not "güey." I would say, "no me jodas" and not "no mames."
Last weekend I was with like 8 of them (half guys half girls) for (more or less) 4 days and nights straight, and I finally just let my Mexican Spanish all out, I don't know how to joke around informally and break chops using "neutral" expressions, it's just not funny and doesn't have the same meaning to me. As a side note: I will never start to use Spaniard vocabulary, I just don't like it, and it sounds odd to me.
They can't put me in a box, since my body language and demeanor is "Italian," (literally every European, without fail, has mentioned that I come off completely Italian and not North American at all?) my looks are Scandinavian, and my language is Mexican.
This isn't the only time I've noticed, and considered asking others about my Latin American accent. It is however the time this has had the most obvious cause and effect.
I could see one of the hotter girls in the group's body language, (who was giving me huge IOIs the night before,) progressively close up during the few minutes me another dude were trash talking each other during a 1v1 drinking game.
I know what slang to use, I spent lots of time and partied with lots of posh 'fresas' and 'chilangos' from Mexico City, so it's not like I'm mindlessly repeating what I heard from some telenovela. Plus, I supposedly seem as natural and genuine in Spanish as I do in English, it's not like I'm "pretending to be from somewhere I'm not."
I can naturally speak with a slight Argentinian accent also, (I lived there, so all it would take is a few hours of TV to switch my brain around,) which then makes Spaniards ask how I learned Latin American Spanish in Italy.
So... I turn to you my fellow Roosh Forum members and ask...
My bilingual Latino - American (step? adopted? foster?) brothers, (and fellow non natives who often might have this issue Spaniards,) what do you / would do?
Does anyone have any knowledge? First or second hand? I'm all ears.
...And I almost forgot... Spanish forum members!!!.... Please give us Latin American Spanish speaking brothers your inside knowledge regarding this situation!
P.S. Is there some sort of internationally agreed upon, "neutral" informal language / slang that would even be a suitable replacement? Or do you gotta either pick a region, or abstain from using anything resembling slang?
I've been "acquainted" with some guys and gals from this Spaniard social circle for around 6 months, but as of the last two weeks I've seemingly been completely accepted as a part of their social circle. As beta as it sounds, it's is actually really nice to feel like part of a group, especially one with such a similar language and culture to my own.
Here's the thing though: I speak Spanish in an unmistakably Latin American way. My grammar, and vocabulary are completely Latin American, and I speak (without paying attention at all to this,) with an accent that always makes Spaniards ask if me or my parents are Mexican.
At first, I kept my Spanish "neutral" in the sense that I would say, "amigo" and not "güey." I would say, "no me jodas" and not "no mames."
Last weekend I was with like 8 of them (half guys half girls) for (more or less) 4 days and nights straight, and I finally just let my Mexican Spanish all out, I don't know how to joke around informally and break chops using "neutral" expressions, it's just not funny and doesn't have the same meaning to me. As a side note: I will never start to use Spaniard vocabulary, I just don't like it, and it sounds odd to me.
They can't put me in a box, since my body language and demeanor is "Italian," (literally every European, without fail, has mentioned that I come off completely Italian and not North American at all?) my looks are Scandinavian, and my language is Mexican.
This isn't the only time I've noticed, and considered asking others about my Latin American accent. It is however the time this has had the most obvious cause and effect.
I could see one of the hotter girls in the group's body language, (who was giving me huge IOIs the night before,) progressively close up during the few minutes me another dude were trash talking each other during a 1v1 drinking game.
I know what slang to use, I spent lots of time and partied with lots of posh 'fresas' and 'chilangos' from Mexico City, so it's not like I'm mindlessly repeating what I heard from some telenovela. Plus, I supposedly seem as natural and genuine in Spanish as I do in English, it's not like I'm "pretending to be from somewhere I'm not."
I can naturally speak with a slight Argentinian accent also, (I lived there, so all it would take is a few hours of TV to switch my brain around,) which then makes Spaniards ask how I learned Latin American Spanish in Italy.
So... I turn to you my fellow Roosh Forum members and ask...
My bilingual Latino - American (step? adopted? foster?) brothers, (and fellow non natives who often might have this issue Spaniards,) what do you / would do?
Does anyone have any knowledge? First or second hand? I'm all ears.
...And I almost forgot... Spanish forum members!!!.... Please give us Latin American Spanish speaking brothers your inside knowledge regarding this situation!
P.S. Is there some sort of internationally agreed upon, "neutral" informal language / slang that would even be a suitable replacement? Or do you gotta either pick a region, or abstain from using anything resembling slang?