[Leonard D Neubache]

(03-15-2019 07:25 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

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Whomever said earlier that this guy is no Breivik was right. As horrible as what he did was, Breivik struck out at the families of traitorous politicians and those politicians themselves. This guy, on the other hand, just slaughtered random innocent people for no reason. It's the same sort of idiocy like Hitler rounding up ordinary Jewish carpenters and storekeepers instead of the banking elite.
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White people tend to project their unique brand of "orderly individuality" on other races but it's a mistake.

The fugitive Bataclan terrorist Abdeslam hid in Molenbeek for months and it was an open secret to everyone in the muslim ghetto he stayed at. He wasn't even hiding in the attic. He walked the streets routinely.

Quote:

His capture was both a triumph and a humiliation. European police had taken the last surviving member of the Paris massacre team alive for questioning, likely to reveal critical details about the network behind the killings, its supporters and logistics. But they found him hiding virtually in plain sight, aided by close family friends, after evading capture for months.

The question hanging over both the people of Molenbeek, where he found a safe haven, and the authorities tasked with chasing Abdeslam, is how he had managed to stay on the run for so long. Helping him were supporters apparently so confident they could conceal Europe’s most wanted man from the authorities that one acted as coffin-bearer for the burial of Salah’s brother and fellow Paris attacker on Thursday.

Virtually every other race will side with a member of their own race regardless of what they've done, if they did it to a member of another race. There are exceptions but this is the rule. If in doubt read Rorogue's post history and take note of just how much "kinship" he feels for white Australians.

Hitler rounded up all the Jews because he knew that to round up any less would create a bigger problem than rounding up none at all. So it will be in all future conflicts in the lands that have been "diversified" but most whites are going to find this out the hard way. They still can't even figure out why so many Mexicans hate them, even though they keep demanding for their parents to be deported. It still doesn't occur to them that the Afghani who fled the war Australians helped bring to Afghanistan might not be loyal to Australia just because we gave him a citizenship here.

Meanwhile anyone paying attention notes that the projection goes the opposite way too. Non-whites are extremely race-centric and as such project their race-centrism on whites, which means if they can't point to precisely what we're doing that's racist then it's only because we're so damn clever at hiding it. I've spent time with immigrants and it's amazing how they attribute every unpleasant dealing with a white person from being shortchanged at a checkout to not being picked first for the football team as "racism". We even see it on the forum here.

We'll learn, but apparently we're going to be learning the hard way.

[Rorogue]

Sp5= 1
Leonard "the whinger who refuses
to have a family" Debauchery= 0

(03-15-2019 07:41 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 07:00 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Sp5 needs to give a lecture on perspective to some white guys living as gringos in a greater-Mexican shithole that used to be a nice, American neighborhood. If they only got laid then I'm sure it wouldn't bother them so much. The ugliness that is upon us now will get worse because we were foolish enough to allow such people to settle in the West in the first place.
From the moment we gave them citizenship we set this ugly and inevitable train of events in motion and be it over ten years or a hundred it will culminate in its inevitable conclusion.

Sp5, having been around a long time, been everywhere, done everything (hyperbole alert), has already had the experience of living in a "changing" neighborhood due to racial migration and immigration. As always, took the attitude "shit happens." It wasn't so bad. The neighborhood is moving in the other direction now, gentrification.

Sp5 was stationed in El Paso in the army, it was a nice "greater-Mexican shithole"!
Sp5's not going to obsess about such things: it's like yelling at pigeons. To the small extent that Sp5 worries about externalities, Sp5 is more worried about nuclear war and other man-made catastrophes than racial shit.

It's not Sp5 who says that racking up a 1+ body count of people one doesn't like is not being a loser.
Causing immense grief among families who were just trying to optimize their prosperity and happiness and ending up as a hated murderer in prison, rather than a successful, self-actualizing, productive, creative happy man is being a loser no matter how many "others" you kill.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(03-15-2019 07:41 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

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Sp5, having been around a long time, been everywhere, done everything (hyperbole alert), has already had the experience of living in a "changing" neighborhood due to racial migration and immigration. As always, took the attitude "shit happens." It wasn't so bad. The neighborhood is moving in the other direction now, gentrification.

Sp5 was stationed in El Paso in the army, it was a nice "greater-Mexican shithole"!
Sp5's not going to obsess about such things: it's like yelling at pigeons. To the small extent that Sp5 worries about externalities, Sp5 is more worried about nuclear war and other man-made catastrophes than racial shit.

It's not Sp5 who says that racking up a 1+ body count of people one doesn't like is not being a loser.
Causing immense grief among families who were just trying to optimize their prosperity and happiness and ending up as a hated murderer in prison, rather than a successful, self-actualizing, productive, creative happy man is being a loser no matter how many "others" you kill.

Sp5 is a rootless cosmopolitan who thinks his personal Tony Robbins version of success is the pinnacle of human existence.



Pathetic losers crossing the Delaware to kill people over something as trivial as high taxes, circa 1776.

Should have worked more on self improvement, making bank and becoming location independent. Likely incels.

[Ouroboros]

(03-15-2019 07:09 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

Oh here comes the passive aggressiveness. Have you heard about the concept of HYPERBOLE? "Oh em gee I'm not sure you know how to use these words properly"

It might seem trivial, but it's important to use words accurately and with a certain amount of self-restraint. Leftists have so misused the word 'racist' that it has lost much of its meaning, becoming little more than a routine jibe. Hopefully the Right doesn't similarly abuse the term 'virtue signalling'.

(03-15-2019 07:09 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

Anyway. Over and out. This kind of thing is quite vexing.

[Aurini]

(03-15-2019 07:45 AM)Rorogue Wrote:  

Sp5= 1
Leonard "the whinger who refuses
to have a family" Debauchery= 0

(03-15-2019 07:41 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 07:00 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Sp5 needs to give a lecture on perspective to some white guys living as gringos in a greater-Mexican shithole that used to be a nice, American neighborhood. If they only got laid then I'm sure it wouldn't bother them so much. The ugliness that is upon us now will get worse because we were foolish enough to allow such people to settle in the West in the first place.
From the moment we gave them citizenship we set this ugly and inevitable train of events in motion and be it over ten years or a hundred it will culminate in its inevitable conclusion.

Sp5, having been around a long time, been everywhere, done everything (hyperbole alert), has already had the experience of living in a "changing" neighborhood due to racial migration and immigration. As always, took the attitude "shit happens." It wasn't so bad. The neighborhood is moving in the other direction now, gentrification.

Sp5 was stationed in El Paso in the army, it was a nice "greater-Mexican shithole"!
Sp5's not going to obsess about such things: it's like yelling at pigeons. To the small extent that Sp5 worries about externalities, Sp5 is more worried about nuclear war and other man-made catastrophes than racial shit.

It's not Sp5 who says that racking up a 1+ body count of people one doesn't like is not being a loser.
Causing immense grief among families who were just trying to optimize their prosperity and happiness and ending up as a hated murderer in prison, rather than a successful, self-actualizing, productive, creative happy man is being a loser no matter how many "others" you kill.

Rorogue's trying to provoke an ugly response so that his friends in the media can quote the RVF as a hate group.

[Jetset]

(03-14-2019 10:30 PM)LeBaron Wrote:  

wow this is actually real the guy is crazy as fuck he actually said subscribe to pewdiepie before shooting up the Mosque

He supposedly described himself, unironically, as a "kebab remover", had it written on his gun, and was listening to the "Remove Kebab" song on the way to the shooting? He quoted the Navy Seal copypasta in his manifesto?

So, I haven't really followed up on all this yet, but is there any evidence that this person had a significant life outside of internet memes?

I'm thinking about the old Saturday Night Live skit where William Shatner finally loses his temper at a Star Trek convention:

"I've spoken to many of you, and some of you have traveled... y'know... hundreds of miles to be here, I'd just like to say... GET A LIFE, will you people? I mean, for crying out loud, it's just a TV show! I mean, look at you, look at the way you're dressed! You've turned an enjoyable little job, that I did as a lark for a few years, into a COLOSSAL WASTE OF TIME! I mean, how old are you people? What have you done with yourselves? You, you must be almost 30... have you ever kissed a girl?"

Brenton, you must be almost 30. It's obvious that your only source of meaning and validation is YouTube. I'm going to repeat something I said in another thread a while ago:

When I was in high school, we had "local long distance" dialup and internet access was out of the question for most kids. There were a few disaffected weird kids. Really weird. They all hung out together in one corner by the softball diamond, and they mostly grew out of it after high school because they really had no choice but to figure out how to socialize. Maybe they never really caught up, but they got jobs, maybe lost their jobs, then figured out the rules of the game and eventually met girls.

Now, if you're kind of a weird fucker, you actually have the option to go home, log on, and surround yourself entirely with an echo chamber of other weird fuckers who will teach you how to be an even weirder fucker. It's a lifestyle choice that you can make and immerse yourself in fully, like becoming a furry.

[Rorogue]

(03-15-2019 07:45 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Virtually every other race will side with a member of their own race regardless of what they've done, if they did it to a member of another race. There are exceptions but this is the rule. If in doubt read Rorogue's post history and take note of just how much "kinship" he feels for white Australians.

I have plenty of kinship with many white Australians. In the last 6 months, I have spent dozens of hours on the phone with an Anglo Australian friend of mine, red pilling him as he was going through sexless hell with his Indian wife, who he suspected of cheating. Guy rang me a few times in close to the worst possible mental place someone could be in. He spent 3 weeks in a clinic.

He hadn't gotten laid in 18 months- my hours of help got him laid a few times in a few weeks and, by his own admission, put him on the course to now repairing the marriage.

I don't know what thread you're referring to, but it was probably the white nationalist falls for non white woman thing.

Just because I refuse to acknowledge that "mighty whites are oh so close to kicking out all these foreigners from their country. We could do it any time, you just haven't made us mad enough", doesn't mean I don't have kinship.

I'm just not going to entertain your delusion.

[TravelerKai]

(03-14-2019 10:30 PM)LeBaron Wrote:  

wow this is actually real the guy is crazy as fuck he actually said subscribe to pewdiepie before shooting up the Mosque, something tells me the media are gonna blame pewdiepie in the next few days.
link https://kiwifarms.net/data/video/694/694...a0336f.mp4

That was a bit intense to watch.

My biggest takeaway is that holy shit does New Zealand have terrible response time police wise compared to America. He actually got to drive off after going back in and out.

Must be very relaxed down there. Probably not anymore.

I bet 8Chan is going to get heat for this too.

[Gremlin]

(03-15-2019 12:42 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

This guy is no Brevik.

What I don't get are why do all of these nutjob shooters keep targeting defenseless non-Whites like it will make a difference?

Why do Muslims, amongst other races, attack innocent, defenseless whites?

Incidents like this are isolated for now, but will occur more frequently wherever diversity is practiced. What happened today is a stepping stone to a large scale future war,

[TravelerKai]

(03-15-2019 04:39 AM)Not a Second Hander Wrote:  

HThey bomb churches all over the world, ethnically cleanse Christian areas in the middle East and Africa, but it's "disgusting" when they finally get a taste of their own medicine?

They had it coming not losing sleep over this.

True, but if we lose our own civility, inside our own lands, we are hardly any better than them.

Especially when doing dumb things like this ends up hurting our ownselves in our own countries, when they take away our guns, forcing a showdown between ourselves and our government. We kill each other in civil wars, then they move in and take over after we are severely weakened. Muslims can make AK-47s by had with some wood and a bit of metal. They can arm themselves anytime they want/need to. That is some serious bait.

Like Fortis posted, this just isn't smart strategy.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Shooter's manifesto Wrote:

I am trained in gorilla warfare

[Sp5]

(03-15-2019 07:55 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 07:41 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

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Sp5, having been around a long time, been everywhere, done everything (hyperbole alert), has already had the experience of living in a "changing" neighborhood due to racial migration and immigration. As always, took the attitude "shit happens." It wasn't so bad. The neighborhood is moving in the other direction now, gentrification.

Sp5 was stationed in El Paso in the army, it was a nice "greater-Mexican shithole"!
Sp5's not going to obsess about such things: it's like yelling at pigeons. To the small extent that Sp5 worries about externalities, Sp5 is more worried about nuclear war and other man-made catastrophes than racial shit.

It's not Sp5 who says that racking up a 1+ body count of people one doesn't like is not being a loser.
Causing immense grief among families who were just trying to optimize their prosperity and happiness and ending up as a hated murderer in prison, rather than a successful, self-actualizing, productive, creative happy man is being a loser no matter how many "others" you kill.

Sp5 is a rootless cosmopolitan who thinks his personal Tony Robbins version of success is the pinnacle of human existence.



Pathetic losers crossing the Delaware to kill people over something as trivial as high taxes, circa 1776.

Lol, "Rootless cosmopolitanism," nice Goebbels Stichwörter.
Rootless cosmopolitanism used to be what this forum was about, travel, game, and self-improvement. Now it's hunkering in the bunker at home, afraid of the invading hordes.

Sp5 earned his rootless cosmopolitanism by, among other things, serving in that same organization which crossed the Delaware in 1776, except in his case he was deterring the 1st Guards Tank Army of the USSR from crossing the Rhein and the Main.
In this, Sp5 did more for the cause of human freedom than you will ever do. He could go on, but not interested in doxxing himself.

[TravelerKai]

(03-14-2019 11:46 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

In that main back room only 1 guy even tried to run away that was weird. They were bunched up in the corners and barely moved. 1 shot probably wouldnt drop a man with adrenaline wanting to get away.

I thought that was extremely strange too. Why were they all bunched up in the corners. Even waited for his reload.

Maybe they do not have active shooter training, but it seems super strange to me. The one guy that bum rushed him almost stopped him. Had one more guy bothered, they could have stopped him. He clearly is not physically strong, nor is he good at clearing corners.

Again, why did they just lay there like that?

[MOVSM]

AAAAAAAAAnd there it is--another leftist:

“The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China”.

Terrorist who attacked New Zealand mosque said China is closest to his political and social values



Why are leftists so violent?

[JWLZG]

(03-15-2019 12:42 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Brevik tried to kill the President of Norway and murdered the children of White liberals. He was 100% political motivated and had a clear political goal in mind.

I understand that geography isn't the alt-right's strong suit, but Norway in fact has a monarchy and not a presidency.

[Leonard D Neubache]

I don't know what generation most of these muslims are but I've read accounts of similar situations in their homelands where they reacted similarly. Where they come from there's no point running. If there's one guy in your mosque with a gun then there's probably a dozen more outside waiting for runners. Best to just huddle, be still and hope for the best.

If that one dude really was trying to rush him then hats off to him. Balls of steel.

[Korrupt]

(03-15-2019 06:06 AM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  

(03-15-2019 05:18 AM)Korrupt Wrote:  

I got about 7 posts down the thread and thought "I don't see anyone expressing any sympathy" - took till page 3 for 1 post like this. Absolute disgraceful posters.

First of all, you haven't expressed your sympathy either.
All you did in your post was complaining about others here.

And I don't see a point of doing that unless there was some member that had some kind of relation to the victims or such. It seems strange otherwise.
The kind of people who change their Facebook profile into a certain flag and all this kind of bullshit are typically just trying to virtue signal "LOOK AT ME IAM VIRTUOUS" because they're so obsessed with social status and feel good about themselves.

My sympathy is quite obviously implied through the context of my post- easily ignored when you're trying to deflect.

[AManLikePutin]

Ended up watching the full video...it actually looked like a video game footage.

The terrorist looked in such relaxed state of mind as he repeatedly loaded in more bullets and kept firing at all corners of the mosque where bodies had piled up on top of each other. He did it 4-5 times even when there was no resistance. Only one man tried to attack him, and he took him out, while falling for a couple of seconds. The whole thing was just....numbing.

Absolutely terrible for the victims and their families. This will only sadly accelerate the chaos and extremism on both ends...absolutely nothing good comes out of it. But that should be an afterthought. 50 people were just murdered in cold blood during daylight...they are the real victims in this. The same way that after Paris massacre, the people who were actually murdered were the real victims and absolutely no one else. Gotta be consistent. Ordinary muslims were NOT the real victims after Paris/Belgium/church attacks the same way 8chan/right wingers aren't the real victims of what happened here. 50 people dead, 50 families devastated, 500 lives forever ruined and changed (close family and relatives), let's have some perspective.

I don't get if one tries to justify this by saying well Muslims murdered whites too, so they had it coming. 50 people were just murdered in cold blood and it's justified because some other disgusting terrorist in Nigeria or France did the same thing? It's not a basket case. Some people who perhaps have never lived in a muslim country assume that muslims are all just tightly knitted family (Umah) and all the time follow what other muslims around the world are doing and cheering and leading them on against the infidels, so to take revenge on any muslim (in this case Kiwi) is a Fuck You/Middle Finger to ISIS/UK rape gangs/etc...When in reality, it's far from the truth. Granted, there are those maniacs and radicals out there...but the average person isn't tracking the actions of Umah all the time. I was in Iran during 9/11, and I remember people lighting candles at the memorial sights, laying flowers near the Switzerland embassy (which if I recall correctly was the broker between US-Iran). Nobody was celebrating death of 3000 "infidels" and what those 19 Saudi scumbags did. Killing a random Muslim in New Zealand isn't taking revenge on a Muslim terrorist killing a random westerner in the Netherlands. Yea, I bet that Muslim terrorist is now gutted...NOT. Going to that route, then more ordinary people of both sides will continue to be slaughtered, while the murdering scumbags get worldwide fame and gratification. Not exactly the great is it?! The cycle of violence will keep continuing whose biggest victims will be normal, ordinary, everyday people.

Anyways...the terrorist was obviously a complete psychopathic maniac who wanted to see everything go in flames and see the world burn. He clearly states it in his manifesto and it'll be telling to see whether sometime down the line, he achieved what he wanted.

[Mekorig]

Achhhhtually, Norway is a Unitary parliamentary constitutional monarchy..The King is a figurehead, and have little political power.

[infowarrior1]

(03-15-2019 08:22 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 11:46 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

In that main back room only 1 guy even tried to run away that was weird. They were bunched up in the corners and barely moved. 1 shot probably wouldnt drop a man with adrenaline wanting to get away.

I thought that was extremely strange too. Why were they all bunched up in the corners. Even waited for his reload.

Maybe they do not have active shooter training, but it seems super strange to me. The one guy that bum rushed him almost stopped him. Had one more guy bothered, they could have stopped him. He clearly is not physically strong, nor is he good at clearing corners.

Again, why did they just lay there like that?

Many people act this way when confronted with real violence that threaten their lives. They are trying their best to hide away from the predator and froze in fright.

They didn't know how to react.

[No More Mr. Soy Boy]

(03-15-2019 08:22 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 11:46 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

In that main back room only 1 guy even tried to run away that was weird. They were bunched up in the corners and barely moved. 1 shot probably wouldnt drop a man with adrenaline wanting to get away.

I thought that was extremely strange too.

A while back I talked with a policeman who had some training in this kind of mass shooting scenarios. They were trained to go against their instincts which is to run away from the danger but he said the actual best thing to do as a male in decent shape was usually to run up against the shooter. Easier said than done of course but instead of almost cuddling up in the corners of the mosque they should have tried to confront him.

It's apparently easier to just aim and shoot at people who are trying to figure out how to get out of there and in the video we can see that he could calmly try to aim at them.
A shooter don't expect you to actually go on an attack and will be shocked by it. If you were trying to carry out an act like this you wouldn't like it if people actually had balls to just try and take the weapon out of you.
I also read on some news site that apparently someone actually managed to throw his rifle on the floor and then sprint out of there but I think it was at the 2nd mosque so it probably never came on any footage.

Also, at the Bataclan shooting, I think the terrorists ordered everyone to get down on the floor in order to deceive the victims and make it easy to kill them.

[Renzy]

(03-15-2019 08:44 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

Many people act this way when confronted with real violence that threaten their lives. They are trying their best to hide away from the predator and froze in fright.

They didn't know how to react.

The lead vocalist of Eagles of Death Metal, the band that was playing at the Bataclan when the massacre occurred, said the same thing. Gavin McInnes interviewed him for an article at Taki, Surrendering to Death:

Quote:

I've heard you say you credit your childhood with your survival. You had a real dad who stuck around and taught you about guns.

I knew what gunfire was. I was able to think through it. I was also able to remember practical lessons of my life because I had to be in fights as a kid. My mom didn'€™t go sue anyone. I didn't have playdates. I had some practical upbringing growing up in the desert where you got to get yourself out of your problems.

It’s like a metaphor for all of Western civilization.

I watched about seven people die. A couple of them were three feet from the barrier. They could have fallen backwards and been alive but they were too scared to even turn around. I remember a woman just standing with her hands up in a surrender pose. The terrorist finally saw her and all she did was go, “€œNo no no.”€ She surrendered to death in front of my very eyes. I was yelling at her, “€œHEY!”€ and I don”€™t think she could hear me. She was so terrified, I think she”€™d already given up.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I've just watched the video and honestly I'm stunned by how everyone just clumped up in a corner waiting for the shooter to kill them. I understand not everyone is cut out for fighting back in that moment of terror, but not even an attempt to run away?

But again, as they saying goes, it's easy to swing another's dick through thorns.

[Canopus]

Part of what makes the video so vile is "playing dead" didn't save many of these people. He went right back in and went up to anybody who was completely still and prone, or who he'd already shot, and riddled them with bullets. Just make sure he killed as many as possible. Sickening.

It's no comfort to him now, but I admire the guy who tried to tackle the killer in the hall. That took courage. It didn't work, but he tried.

[Horus]

Regarding the slow response time, I imagine the reason for this is that New Zealand front line police don't routinely carry firearms. They can request firearms when going into situations where they expect they will be needed, or in rare circumstances an entire regional police force will be authorised to carry weapons if there is a known gunman on the loose. For situations involving offenders with firearms, there is a specialised armed offenders squad in each region. The delay in response was due to front line police returning to base to collect weapons and the time it took to mobilise the armed offenders squad.

It will sound mind boggling to most people that police officers don't carry weapons. But up to now it has generally worked very well. Although gun owership in New Zealand is relatively high, crime involving firearms is low, and officers killed or even seriously hurt on the job is extremely rare. Of course this will probably all change very soon.