[BeardedMastodon]

During 2017 I took prescription opioids for depression... and something unexpected happened.

My confidence shot up to levels I have only dreamed of... I mean the kind of confidence where you think you can negotiate a billion dollar deal. OCD tendencies and doubts and anxieties didn’t have a place in my mind.

I don’t know. Maybe a normal guy has higher confidence then me, because my mind has OCD tendencies, and these constant doubts eat you up...

The downside is Opiods do change your personality... it gave me the confidence to think all my ideas were million dollar ideas, approach any girl... and also to tell my mom and old man what I really thought about them. Even if it involved cursing, yelling...

Anyone experience this type of thing?

I believe that all brains are wired differently, some brains might need external opiods ( or GABA, etc etc..)as it can be a cure for OCD, anxiety and etc... my brain certianly does... but I despise the anger and hate it gives me...

I have tried nootropic. But nothing comes close to the confidence boost of opiods. Even low dose buprenorphine...

Note: I could not wait to taper off opiods (horrid side effects; constant constipation, huge personality change, feelings of depersonalization), this is not to encourage anyone, rather has anyone else expirenced this confidence pill phenomenon??

[luigi]

I think the best way out of depression is fighting it yourself, not swallow pills.


Anyways into topic: what you describe of totally changing happened to me with another substance: steroids. They give you the "alpha feeling" when you are using them... only that i have kept the feeling after stopping them. Its like they have rewired my brain and im a different person, for good i would say.

Not sure if its the answer you were looking for.

[fiasco360]

It's a common effect of any drugs that modulate dopamine. When I had to take Vicodin after surgery it made me numb any bad feelings away and I always felt good.

Amphetamines do this as well - hence why people love adderall. Not only does it make you productive but you also feel great in general.

These substances are highly addictive so I would stay away as much as you can.

[Twigg]

I'm in the same boat as you But I've learned to look inward or my confidence. It’s dangerous to rely on something as addictive as opioids they can help in the short term but use them long-term annual run into addiction issues and run the possibility of overdosing on them.Additionally if you're having confidence issues You get your testosterone checked.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

This gets into dangerous territory, but I had the same experience as the O.P., so I'll tell my story.

Several years ago I needed to take some pain pills for kidney stones. I've always been vehemently anti-drug, so I avoid meds whenever I can. But...kidney stones HURT LIKE HELL!!! So, I took the pills.

Bang!

All of a sudden, the world looked brighter, people seemed beautiful, and I felt an inner joy like I hadn't since college. Metaphorically speaking, it was like jumping into a swimming pool on a scorching hot summer's day or finding out the hottest girl in school has a crush on you. And like the O.P., I found myself flirting with women like when I was 19.

I had to take these pills for a while because the kidney stone was huge and took weeks to "pass" (don't ask). Luckily, I found out that I do not have a genetic disposition to get addicted to pain pills. I never felt the urge to take more pills and didn't even finish the prescription bottle.

BUT...

When I was ailing, someone brought me over a bunch of calzones from the local Italian restaurant. That's where my addiction came in. I didn't think about taking extra pills, but could not stop finding reasons to eat ALL the Italian food.

People who mess with opioids are playing with fire. They clearly change your way of thinking, feeling, seeing, and experiencing the world. But they're highly addictive to most people. I lucked out but not everyone is so lucky.

I don't think this has to do with willpower, either. Because when it comes to a lot of other things (see below), I have little willpower. It's just that pain pills exerted no pull on me either way. It was like dating a nice-looking woman who you know is pretty, but does nothing for you.

The irony of this story? When I found a townhome was for sale across from that Italian restaurant I moved across the street! I can walk there every day if I want. If my Italian-American genetics compel me to eat calzone and pasta a lot, then so be it. There are worse addictions.

[Eddie Winslow]

Sorry man - I don't care about the tiny disclaimer at the bottom of the OP. This thread and its click-bait title are promoting opioid use as game and confidence enhancer.

Painkillers make you feel good - no shit. That's why people abuse and overdose on them everyday.

I hope mods delete this shit.

[BlastbeatCasanova]

Eveything has a cost. Especially things that feel good that don’t require any effort, such as taking a pill.

[BBinger]

(03-08-2019 04:37 AM)fiasco360 Wrote:  

It's a common effect of any drugs that modulate dopamine. When I had to take Vicodin after surgery it made me numb any bad feelings away and I always felt good.

Amphetamines do this as well - hence why people love adderall. Not only does it make you productive but you also feel great in general.

These substances are highly addictive so I would stay away as much as you can.

Not to mention... The meat adapts. With ongoing exposure, the same drug (as well as others that act similarly) will offer diminishing dopamine rush benefits until they are gone. Then you are stuck with the drug to feel "normal" until you detox. It's a trap with some, very short term upside, and a lot of long term downside.

Most people I have met that got out of serious addiction problems in the long term ended up committing to some pretty serious lifestyle changes and very different ways of looking at the world well after getting through withdrawal from their drugs of choice. Having done that they are some of the happiest and well adjusted people I know despite substantial portions of their early life largely being written off as a precautionary tale to themselves.

Attitude, outlook, and good habits can take a lot of work to change, but it works when you work it.

I believe there's a lot of variation between people, but one constant is that the body and the brain seek homeostasis.

[TravelerKai]

(03-08-2019 04:29 AM)BeardedMastodon Wrote:  

During 2017 I took prescription opioids for depression... and something unexpected happened.

My confidence shot up to levels I have only dreamed of... I mean the kind of confidence where you think you can negotiate a billion dollar deal. OCD tendencies and doubts and anxieties didn’t have a place in my mind.

I don’t know. Maybe a normal guy has higher confidence then me, because my mind has OCD tendencies, and these constant doubts eat you up...

The downside is Opiods do change your personality... it gave me the confidence to think all my ideas were million dollar ideas, approach any girl... and also to tell my mom and old man what I really thought about them. Even if it involved cursing, yelling...

Anyone experience this type of thing?

I believe that all brains are wired differently, some brains might need external opiods ( or GABA, etc etc..)as it can be a cure for OCD, anxiety and etc... my brain certianly does... but I despise the anger and hate it gives me...

I have tried nootropic. But nothing comes close to the confidence boost of opiods. Even low dose buprenorphine...

Note: I could not wait to taper off opiods (horrid side effects; constant constipation, huge personality change, feelings of depersonalization), this is not to encourage anyone, rather has anyone else expirenced this confidence pill phenomenon??

Get your blood work done. If your testosterone is low enough you will be severely be lacking in confidence.

Check out Linux's TRT script for men over 30 Thread.

When on TRT confidence soars through the roof and speaking to others in public gets super easy. That said, you have to be careful not to think you are superman and get bitten for crossing the line on something.

[Tactician]

(03-08-2019 02:08 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

BUT...

When I was ailing, someone brought me over a bunch of calzones from the local Italian restaurant. That's where my addiction came in. I didn't think about taking extra pills, but could not stop finding reasons to eat ALL the Italian food.

[Transsimian]

Phenibut is incredible for social confidence.

Just don't mix it with alcohol or use it more than once a week.

[The Beast1]

When I was in college, I swallowed a "parachute" of what I thought was MDMA.

45 minutes in, I felt like a Donald Trump. I was fucking suave, aggressive, and could grab the world by the pussy and fuck it. I went to a club and these chicks were all over me. I never felt more confident. Literally big brass balls. Pushed away two bitches on the floor to get to some guys. They were blown away.

Later that night I went to a party. There was only one bathroom. I kept a bunch of girls from going in to let my friend go in first. They all got pissed at me, going, "What's your f*cking problem? Why did you do that?! Blah blah blah!"

There were a bunch of people around and they all started staring at me. Girls, guys, music was bumping.

I looked at her and screamed back, "YOU KNOW WHAT?! YOU'RE RIGHT! YOU ABSOLUTELY SHOULDN"T BE TREATED THAT WAY! I AM VERY SORRY!"

They looked absolutely stunned. Completely blown away. Everyone else around me couldn't believe it.

Girl replies back to me stuttering: "It's it's ... ok. You're like... really hot."

I wink and tell her to go find me outside after she does her little girl room stuff.
She finds me outside, I take her to my car, and bang the shit out of her in the back seat.

Later on in my life, I actually had some pretty damn pure MDMA made by a chemist for fun. I tried some and the experience was completely different. I wanted to hug everyone and I had absolutely zero of the MAGA energy I had before.

Turns out, given the way I consumed it and the effects that what I had taken was actually meth.

I wish this was a troll story, but it's not.

TL;DR: Took MDMA that was really meth, became Donald Trump, banged a girl in my car after I cut in line to use the bathroom and apologized to her.

[scotian]

About ten years ago I had a stretch of about six months where I was messing around with opiods like percocets, oxis and morphine. At first it was to get fucked up but then I realized that I could fuck like a porn star on them at the right dosage of about 3-4 percs or one oxy 20mgs plus 3-4 beer. I could get a raging boner but wouldn’t jizz forever, so this chick I was banging would blow up my phone all the time because every time I went to her place I was fucking her brains out like a champ. I mean like fuck her for an hour until she couldn’t take anymore, on the bed, sofa, floor, shower, etc. Then fuck her some more, all night, It was intense.

So ya I felt more confident or alpha whatever you want to call it but the guys I was buying the pills from went into a downward spiral and were banging that shit in their arms. It grossed me out so I stopped hanging around them but I remember my friend telling me one thing, “never take these for more than two days in a row or you’ll turn into a zombie” which is what happened to him, watching them get dope sick was nasty.

Anyway, this thread is pretty retarded especially now in 2019 with all of the knowledge about the dangers of opiates and especially fentanyl going around, suggesting people take these types of pills is terrible advice.

Drugs have fucked up a lot of my friends’ and family members lives including myself fuck, took me long enough to figure that out ha!

[BeardedMastodon]

I know it’s controversial... but so is this forum.

I have had the opposite of effects... I have had anti depressants suck my confidence and my personality. I realize opiods are touchy now... but I have been on them and had to fight the withdrawal and hell, but it’s also nice to talk about it candidly and say “it’s freaking a,along what a pill can do”. It’s all neurotransmitters. Some of you may have natural higher levels of dopamine and feel confident all the time. Others may have a deficiency.

So the purpose of this thread was two fold, and sorry for the click bait.

- To share expirences that you thought were impossible for a pill to produce.
-In light of addition, realize that medications can work if your feeling off. Yah. I know. I didn’t frame this well.

Anywho. I appreciate the honest stories.