[Mikestar]

I think yes. Recently I wrote an essay for my university course on the topic of Mexico (I nearly got a 100% score). Without having a Mexican girlfriend and her sharing her culture with me there would be no way I would have written such a good essay. I’m happy I found a way to transfer my experiences of dicking down latinas to benefit my academic studies

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(02-03-2019 04:29 AM)flyinghorse Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 10:21 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 08:33 AM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  

I'd say a no to the title.

You need to speak the language fluently before you can even qualify for expert in my book because if you can't understand the random cafe conversations around you then you are Jon Snow.

Having said that, sure you can learn plenty about the place just chasing tail and get much more of a feel for the culture than any book will teach you.

I agree on the language requirement, a requirement that can even be one for getting high-quality local women, in the first place. So yes, speaking very well the language is a necessity, both for "exotic" pussy and understanding of the country.

(02-02-2019 12:20 PM)Sherman Wrote:  

I was married to a Colombian woman. I say no to the title. Just visiting a country and picking up women just makes you a tourist. However, if you actually live in the country, that is different, you will learn more, but still be an outsider. In Colombia, most social circles are closed off to you.

OK, but thing is, to understand and know the country, do you really need to enter those "closed-off social circles", or do you just need to have relationships with women from said social circles? Not talking about actually doing business locally, just about knowing a lot about the country. Women from intellectual social circles, will tell you all you need know, about a country, except well, accurate business stuff (rare exceptions exist).

Quoting you: "Just visiting a country and picking up women just makes you a tourist" I disagree:

Have you never taken a holiday to do something interesting beyond picking up women?

One of my favourite trips of all time was hiking through the mountains of Austria. I have no qualms at being a tourist if the holiday is interesting.

I am not saying that doing touristy things is bad per se, I am saying that as a man, wherever you travel you should be willing to fuck local pussy if the occasion arises, you should even try your best to, time permitting.

It's okay to trek the bloody Austrian mountains or some, watch the goats sauntering from rock to rock (cute!) and marvel at the groundhogs tiptoeing among the edelweiss (even cuter!), but, once you are back in Innsbruck, it would be normal and healthy to become once again interested in local women.

Traveling to see some of the world wonders is fine, but, if you close yourself to the possibility of "gaming" and meeting local cuties on the side, you are not normal, your instincts have been, say, tamed by the modern and feminine Western education.


^cute. Will teach you nothing though.


^cuter! Might teach you some.

[TutorGuina]

If a guy comes to Rio de Janeiro and:

1. lives somewhere that is not Zona Sul or Barra for a couple of years,
2. befriends the locals
3. eats in cheap popular restaurants,
4. goes to common cheap botecos for a drink,
5. hangs out in a non-touristy roda de samba,
6. nightgames in Lapa and witness the local thugs muggery,
7. interacts with native bums and crackheads

or he does something equivalent for each one of those items; then I might consider him somehow knowledgeable of the place. Btw, I haven't done only one of those

Now a sex tourist comes here for a couple of months, stays in a insulated neighbourhood, goes to insulated venues, fucks a couple of gringo hunters or straight up P4P and claims he is an expert in the place?


Seriously, you're just a gringo tourist with game
I'm not even hating, I'd love to do a similar trip to Thailand or Eastern Europe but to claim you're an expert just because you drilled some local pussy is either dishonest or deluded

[Tail Gunner]

(02-03-2019 01:59 PM)Going strong Wrote:  



^cuter! Might teach you some.

Yes, it teaches you to add a hot tub to the equation of girls and beer:

   

[RatInTheWoods]

Nothing will teach you more about Thailand than a few months shacked up with a "dark haired dictionary"

Culture, language and world outlook education massively enhanced if you go into her world.

There is something grounding about catching frogs in a paddock in her village and eating them with her grandmother in a grass hut that will teach you all the world doesn't look the same.

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(02-03-2019 03:21 PM)TutorGuina Wrote:  

If a guy comes to Rio de Janeiro and:

1. lives somewhere that is not Zona Sul or Barra for a couple of years,
2. befriends the locals
3. eats in cheap popular restaurants,
4. goes to common cheap botecos for a drink,
5. hangs out in a non-touristy roda de samba,
6. nightgames in Lapa and witness the local thugs muggery,
7. interacts with native bums and crackheads

or he does something equivalent for each one of those items; then I might consider him somehow knowledgeable of the place. Btw, I haven't done only one of those

Now a sex tourist comes here for a couple of months, stays in a insulated neighbourhood, goes to insulated venues, fucks a couple of gringo hunters or straight up P4P and claims he is an expert in the place?

I think we all agree with you here. If you had carefully read all the posts of the thread, you would have noted that we exclude the sad P4P dudes, and recommend not to stay in "insulated venues" or conference-center soulless 3-star hotels.

And the list of activities you are describing above, like the activities described earlier on the thread by Pitt ("Listen to their music, their music says a lot on how they perceive life, watch their local movies, be invited to family dinners, play checkers or any other street games with them etc"), who do you think are likely to engage in such activities? Bespectacled university researchers, or curious, horny dudes?

What I mean is, if one fucks good-quality non-prostitute local pussy, one is very likely to have learnt the language, and have lots of other interactions with the local people. It's just natural: he who fucks, is motivated, energetic and curious about things and life in general. So if you fuck good local pussy, 99% of the time you also have other interesting activities in the country you are in, because you're an outgoing dude with spirit and motivation.

By the way, anecdotally I do disagree with your number 7 item. There is nothing to learn with local bums or crackheads. And hopefully Bolsonaro will deal with them soon

[Buddydowrongright2]

(02-03-2019 04:44 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Nothing will teach you more about Thailand than a few months shacked up with a "dark haired dictionary"

Culture, language and world outlook education massively enhanced if you go into her world.

There is something grounding about catching frogs in a paddock in her village and eating them with her grandmother in a grass hut that will teach you all the world doesn't look the same.

Listen to this man.

[Shimmy]

Definitely not. Spending time living in a certain country and interacting with locals gives you more knowledge on a country, whether that includes having sex with the women or not will not make you more or less of an expert.

[RatInTheWoods]

Anyone else taking my bet these dirty hoes are sneaking a huge beer piss out into that tub on the sly?

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(02-04-2019 04:23 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  



Anyone else taking my bet these dirty hoes are sneaking a huge beer piss out into that tub on the sly?

The tall one on the right is actually doing just that, at the very moment this picture was taken, hence her smug and slightly tense smile. Sad!

I do know in any case what you horny gentlemen want my new thread to be; no more philosophical or societal introspection, it shall be: "The Blonde Hotties Pissing in Bathtubs on Top of Austrian Alps Master Thread (NSFW)". That'll get me Likes all right!

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(02-03-2019 11:26 PM)Shimmy Wrote:  

Definitely not. Spending time living in a certain country and interacting with locals gives you more knowledge on a country, whether that includes having sex with the women or not will not make you more or less of an expert.

I sure hope that "living in a country and interacting with locals" does include sexual interactions, unless you're a monk (or happily married and faithful, to each his own).

Also, what kind of interactions could one have anyway with women, local or not, if not sexual? Do you actually drink beer, play chess, with them girls or some?

In any case, OK, so, show me a counter example: an expat man who fucks many local (non-prostitutes) good-quality women (and therefore undoubtedly speaks the language), who is NOT an expert on the country he's in. I know none. All the men I know who fit the bill, are quite expert (super knowledgeable) on the country they're in. You need expertise on a country to fuck many local (non-prostitutes) good-quality women in said country (unless you are a super-rich dude who uses only money-and-fame game).

[Shimmy]

Most guys on this forum who travel to places just to "fuck local pussy" learn much less about the culture than the "loser tourists" you described. Those people spend their time learning about the culture of a country, trying new food, sight seeing, and learning the history.

The average forum guy I've met will spend most of their time going to night clubs or sitting in their apartment swiping tinder. While I would rather meet a forum guy for a beer and hang out with him, chances are a tourist that is visiting a place with the goal of learning about a country will learn much more for each day they spend there. I avoid backpackers at all costs, but to say that a guy visiting a place just to get laid learns more about a country for the time he spends there is laughable.

I have had plenty of interactions with women I'm not having sex or trying to have sex with in the country I live in. Anywhere from business transactions, running errands, or girls my friends are dating. I have learned plenty in those situations.

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(02-05-2019 12:20 AM)Shimmy Wrote:  

Most guys on this forum who travel to places just to "fuck local pussy" learn much less about the culture than the "loser tourists" you described. Those people spend their time learning about the culture of a country, trying new food, sight seeing, and learning the history.

The average forum guy I've met will spend most of their time going to night clubs or sitting in their apartment swiping tinder.

I have had plenty of interactions with women I'm not having sex or trying to have sex with in the country I live in. Anywhere from business transactions, running errands, or girls my friends are dating. I have learned plenty in those situations.

Those people spend their time learning about the culture of a country, trying new food, sight seeing, and learning the history. Come one, are they monks? How long do they go without craving sex? Three weeks of contemplating bloody temples in Siem Reap or some, and no interest in women?

Personally, I guess they "try new food and sight-see" because they are content watching porn and don't have the spirit (or language) for gaming local women. Yes, they are fat losers (unless they are happily married and traveling with wifey) with sandals.

"I have had plenty of interactions with women I'm not having sex or trying to have sex with in the country I live in. Anywhere from business transactions, running errands, or girls my friends are dating. I have learned plenty in those situations.":

Except business deal situations (or family conversations), what you learn from women you didn't fuck is tainted and usually worthless. Women don't give good data to men who are not even trying to fuck them (men they categorize as gay or disrespectful total losers).

You have a point though with Tinder. Tinder fucks up my analysis a little bit, as young Chads can get sex without learning about the country or leaving their hotel room. Sad, actually. But mind you, it'll be sex with moderately low-quality women.

[Ouroboros]

(02-05-2019 12:20 AM)Shimmy Wrote:  

Most guys on this forum who travel to places just to "fuck local pussy" learn much less about the culture than the "loser tourists" you described. Those people spend their time learning about the culture of a country, trying new food, sight seeing, and learning the history.

That doesn't describe most of the tourists that I've encountered. Trying new food (especially stereotypical, unadventurous food such as pizza in Italy) and sight seeing for the sake of Instagram pics is more like it. Plenty of them opt to go on a sightseeing bus or tour so they can maximise the photo ops and minimise the interaction with the locals. Sure you're not going to learn much if you're just getting girls to come to your hotel room for sex as if you're ordering fast food, but if you're actually going on dates, going to places that other tourists would never find because they lack a local guide, and having conversations with local girls and their friends/family, you're undoubtedly going to learn more about the culture than the typical tourist.

[yankeetravels]

This seems to be one of those situations where every thumb is a finger but not every finger is a thumb. Basically, you can't be an expert on a country without getting romantically involved with the opposite sex, but getting involved does not necessarily make you an expert.

[the-dream]

Yes, especially if you meet her family, visit her rural hometown etc.

[BronzedAussie]

No but it gives you insight into that countries dating culture.

[flyinghorse]

(02-03-2019 01:59 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(02-03-2019 04:29 AM)flyinghorse Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 10:21 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(02-02-2019 08:33 AM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  

I'd say a no to the title.

You need to speak the language fluently before you can even qualify for expert in my book because if you can't understand the random cafe conversations around you then you are Jon Snow.

Having said that, sure you can learn plenty about the place just chasing tail and get much more of a feel for the culture than any book will teach you.

I agree on the language requirement, a requirement that can even be one for getting high-quality local women, in the first place. So yes, speaking very well the language is a necessity, both for "exotic" pussy and understanding of the country.

(02-02-2019 12:20 PM)Sherman Wrote:  

I was married to a Colombian woman. I say no to the title. Just visiting a country and picking up women just makes you a tourist. However, if you actually live in the country, that is different, you will learn more, but still be an outsider. In Colombia, most social circles are closed off to you.

OK, but thing is, to understand and know the country, do you really need to enter those "closed-off social circles", or do you just need to have relationships with women from said social circles? Not talking about actually doing business locally, just about knowing a lot about the country. Women from intellectual social circles, will tell you all you need know, about a country, except well, accurate business stuff (rare exceptions exist).

Quoting you: "Just visiting a country and picking up women just makes you a tourist" I disagree:

Have you never taken a holiday to do something interesting beyond picking up women?

One of my favourite trips of all time was hiking through the mountains of Austria. I have no qualms at being a tourist if the holiday is interesting.

I am not saying that doing touristy things is bad per se, I am saying that as a man, wherever you travel you should be willing to fuck local pussy if the occasion arises, you should even try your best to, time permitting.

It's okay to trek the bloody Austrian mountains or some, watch the goats sauntering from rock to rock (cute!) and marvel at the groundhogs tiptoeing among the edelweiss (even cuter!), but, once you are back in Innsbruck, it would be normal and healthy to become once again interested in local women.

Traveling to see some of the world wonders is fine, but, if you close yourself to the possibility of "gaming" and meeting local cuties on the side, you are not normal, your instincts have been, say, tamed by the modern and feminine Western education.


^cute. Will teach you nothing though.


^cuter! Might teach you some.

I tend to always travel with a girl (whether a gf or fwb) so gaming never comes into it.

I did a lads holiday but that ended up being a dick measuring contest on who could drink the most.