[JWLZG]

(03-18-2019 12:56 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 06:23 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

Who cares. You're fucking a body, not a personality.

You're out of your depth here. If you don't like what we're saying then just ignore us. Cause you're just going to lose in a logical debate because you don't know what you're talking about

Lool. Quite the opposite. Myself, I'd rather bonk an educated, fit, blonde 10 with a cunty personality than a "feminine", curvy Colombian 4 with a face resembling a collage of smashed arseholes.

You're not intending to marry either, certainly not the latter, and it's a triumph of your frame to be able to have the former cook bacon and eggs for you the morning after.

Anyone who even deigns to suggest otherwise, on the grounds that "there (sic) more red pill".....is just hamsterising his poor game off the charts.

(03-16-2019 05:36 PM)Oak Wrote:  

This is to counter the anglo/western women hate in this forum.

I wanted to put this in the unpopular opinions thread but it's been closed:

- Anglo countries produce the most high quality women, but they're inaccessible to nearly all men.

- People equate ease of access with quality, so overrate slavic and asian girls. Or they're just interested in sex, or just want an easy life.

- Much of the hate for western european girls is sour grapes.

+1

I especially agree with the bolded. It's not that kosher to admit, but our top tier women in e.g. Oz and the USA are easily the calibre of 9's and 10's worldwide. Slightly less so for NZ but still very possible.

(03-16-2019 05:36 PM)Oak Wrote:  

- If you are a w̶h̶i̶t̶e̶ man of any colour with a preference for asian women you are probably gamma.

Fixed that for you.

(03-18-2019 12:56 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 06:23 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

You don't drink, do you? So much of a value of a man in the Antipodes does depend on his willingness to hit the town with the boys and carry on a show of élan and leadership on a night out that mirror their exploits on the rugby oval the afternoon before.

This is a pillar of masculinity that you really can't blame others for. In Oz, we abide by the tenet that you should never trust a man who doesn't drink.

It's not just a "toxic Anglo" thing. I don't see what the difference is between the sprightful bonhomie of a night out irrespective of whether it would be in Germany or drinking cultures that are as heavy as in Argentina or China.

Do you realise how ridiculous you Aussies sound to normal people? Yes there are drunkards everywhere but non drunkards have satisfying fulfilling social circles in the vast majority of normal countries

Gotcha! hehehe

I think you've proven my point about social maladjustment by not even being able to see the moderation between two extremes. The majority of my peers and I were brought up to drink responsibly. Whether we followed that to the letter is another story, but it's a very telling way of your societal worldview that you're utterly incapable of passing that litmus test of coördinating your base temptations with spirited companionship.

Australians — and over here, Europeans, even more so — don't actually respect a drunk person.

Oh, and good luck fitting in in, like 95% of corporate environments around the world; especially the higher a social class you might be in.

(03-18-2019 12:56 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

Do you realise how ridiculous you Aussies sound to normal people? Yes there are drunkards everywhere but non drunkards have satisfying fulfilling social circles in the vast majority of normal countries

But do you, Mr. Holider-Than-Thou-Teetotaller?

Which brings me to the next point:

(03-18-2019 12:56 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 06:23 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

The corollary: perhaps it might be a good idea to examine the origins of such personal angst that led to the allegiance of such fringe views as the alt-right, ones that are fundamentally out of sync with western millenial hivethink.

No angst at all.

Mate, I'm not asking you to be honest with me. But try being honest with yourself. I'm sure people with far-left and far-right allegiances align themselves as such because they give a shit about the good of humanity. I mean I'm sure Adolf Hitler had the best intentions didn't he? That's why he ended up murdering tens of millions of Jews and Slavs.

C'mon mate. Let's not pussyfoot around the fact that the vast majority of those who get sucked into the alt-right vortex, do so as a reflex action due to their failure with women. A cop out action that represents the easy route out, or a way to channel their frustration.
It could be the very analogous sequitur that such guys weren't that socially put together to begin with, thus resulting in such an inevitable slippery slope to begin with, wherein game would have been a dry run in the middle of the road indicating their misfit in society.

Oftentimes, the thrall of such extremist and dogmatic beliefs stems from some inset feelings of inadequacy or inferiority as a result of a major or recurring incident in youth. Perhaps one's parents were complete fuckups, or they enforced a tyrannical régime of one-sided academic enforcement. I can expand upon this if need be.

This constitutes a temporal alienation from contemporary peer group milieux especially of the same generational age range such as the OP. It's one thing to prefer alcohol abstinence, not to display an interest in sports; travel; he outdoors; nightlife; gigs; festivals; and other companied young people stuff. Quite another to justify that with a feeling of moral superiority over the NPC sheeple. When that that parcelled in with the slavish lonesome following of fringe online political cesspools, then that begets mockery, scorn, contempt. Worse, still when the fact that the subject in question is a lazy fuck who can't even improve his body if not his mind, by not lifting — I will die laughing.



Thus:

(03-18-2019 12:56 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 06:23 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

OK, so you're simultaneously crediting "the expression of your strong, confrontational values" vis-à-vis its utter incompatibility with that of the Antipodean NPC groupthink. That's good....that's a start. If you're feeling that much of a square peg in a round hole WRT your environment, have you thought that the prerogative might be yours to harmonise yourself with the greater good?

Yes I have. Have you thought about the brilliance of thinking for yourself?

It's all too well to snub "the crowd" for succumbing to the groupthink bacchanalia, but see whether this "inner monologue" enlightenment makes you a better person for growing old before your time, robbing you of your ability to partake in the good cheer, camaraderie, and joie de vivre of what it means to celebrate the beauty of youth in the company of beautiful people in a sexual dynamo of festivals, casual sex, and tournaments and other aspects of being in your 20s.

(01-09-2019 09:28 PM)Suave Wrote:  

You don't lift right? My close mate is a personal trainer who moved from Auckland to Sydney six years ago. Today he's partying with some of the hottest twenty-something year olds there.

(03-18-2019 12:56 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

(03-18-2019 06:23 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

I mean, nevermind that most of that 80% of the world are complete shitholes that won't give you anywhere near the life opportunities that are extended to you in the West, and that would by and large apply to dating too.

Rationalisation

OK, mate. Try putting your money where your mouth is, here, and move to North Korea, Eritrea, or Bolivia. Somewhere that's an utter shithole but who cares, the women are feminine enough that they'll say: "Yes, bwana", and cook for you and walk three steps behind you. See how much of a life can forge for yourself in those regions outside of dating in a "traditional shithole".

You haven't gotten out that much; I've travelled in depth throughout 6 of the 7 continents by the time I was 25, I know who isn't talking out of his arse here. Again, us Aussies and Kiwis travel widely in our youth, but don't fret, you shouldn't follow the herd.

[TigerMandingo]

So wait, is this thread now a pissing contest between which race of women is the best?

[BortimusPrime]

Hmm, I was going to post about an okcupid psycho but I think this thread went in a different direction than the OP.

[BigTedSven]

If I may...
I am in Australia, and have had similar experiences my whole life to the OP. I am lucky as I have height, blond hair and blue eyes, so I could always land a few birds.
I am currently dating an Asian girl that came here with her family when she was a child, and without me even prompting she also observed the same as the OP and myself. Especially about the clicky social circles.
Life experience has taught me the types of girls to avoid, unconscious bias if you may, but since avoiding them, and realising that there are many foreign girls in Australia with some fetish for a guy of my type has made my sex life far more productive for much less outlay of time.
Ive found it’s mostly the girls that had tiger mums and just want to be taken on outdoor adventures, whether in the city, the beach or out in the bush. Something they were deprived of their whole life due to practicing the piano for 2 hrs everyday and locked inside all weekend studying.
They never really got the chance the be little girls. Mr Pook really gave me the blueprint for being able to give them that experience. And whilst they soon find out that I am not available for long term commitment at the moment, when we part ways they are usually thankful for being able to have an experience they were short changed of growing up.
The other positive to this is that they avoided the Disney Princess education that most middle class white girls get poisoned by from watching far too much TV growing up.

[The Catalyst]

(03-21-2019 04:55 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  

Hmm, I was going to post about an okcupid psycho but I think this thread went in a different direction than the OP.

I'm curious about the anecdote.

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In any case, my own experiences since the starting of the thread 4 months ago.

My approaches went way down. I stopped giving a fuck and stopped thinking anything in NZ was worth doing(as such). However, on average my approaches were a lot more successful and I've never had a brutal rejection since. Had a few decent, pleasurable interactions, even with Kiwi girls. It was possible it was just a streak when I started the thread. I do believe Anglo girls still have issues though.

In terms of actual changes to my approach technique I just switched to approaching hotties and seemingly foreign girls only. Which is almost never nowadays since I am less motivated to walk around the city than I was a few months ago. Basically I only approach when I have a strong feeling of "I have to do this". I wonder if this subconsciously filters out everyone with serious issues. In the end, I want to leave NZ in part because I actually want to have approach sessions again(right now, it feels pointless).

By the way, from my end my vibe has been a lot worse than it used to be a few months ago. I have given up all hope that NZ is worth living in, that my life situation is fulfilling while I am still stuck in NZ, I have felt horror at the psychological issues of my parents that I haven't realised before(sort of like staring into the abyss), and with the Chch massacre realised pretty much every Kiwi I knew was basically an NPC and can't be reasoned with. So it's not even that my vibe is better with girls than it was.

However, I am slightly emotionally stronger so I can handle more negativity like this without melting down or being impacted. So it's a feeling of "yeah, that's how it is" rather than something that seriously makes me feel bad. I have also changed how I interact with most people who are not good friends. Instead of interacting with them honestly, I instead just avoid every topic which, saying my honest opinion, might make them feel bad at all. So that is actually more than half of topics probably, because Kiwis cannot handle the truth. The fascinating thing is because Anglos are (often)a bunch of NPC bullshitters that means I've literally had to change topics if they are just flat out wrong because I just am not going to deal with that anymore. Bizarrely, it seems people might be thinking I am more positive. Particularly liberals who cannot read facial expressions or body language for shit.

Which means the whole "be positive" thing is totally bogus. I've been thinking more negative than I'd been in years, but people don't even realise if you don't rock their boat.

[Bienvenuto]

Yeee-ah..

A quick catch up.

OP started by saying that he is having bad interactions with NZ girls from Anglo/Scottish backgrounds (vast majority of Kiwi girls) as well as other girls from the Anglo-sphere.

Alot of people chimed in about the sexual market place in NZ and elsewhere and how young women are becoming bitches.

OP said words to the effect that he thought it might b him but it turns out that the problem is more generalised.

Later developments were that OP revealed that he thought NZ-ers and NZ in general was FUBAR but conversely

==== there were no problems with him.

Further digging from the likes of JWLZG revealed that whilst OP wants white women OP aint no Chad and crucially....

doesn't want to do any work to improve himself, rather insisting that everything that he is doing is already fine/ good enough..

whilst he roams the forum slating NZ and its people at every opportunity.

So statements about comparing races of women or observations that Tall White Blond Aussies conversely do pretty good with Asian women with Tiger Mums isn't addressing the emerging issues here,

which are that OP has problems that he will not address.

See this is the thing OP, you're probably a good bloke.

NPCness is global - France, Spain, Fiji, US.

But there are good people out there and women that you can successfully game and bang.


>>>>>IF you do what works.

You, however, are in your own little world going round like a modern-day Van Gogh/ young Adolf-Hitler where its you against the world and all of NZ specifically.

How stupid.

You need to get out of your family situation because its obviously colouring your experiences.

Find people on the forum and elsewhere who will help you with that.

You're a grown man though.
As someone who was kicked out of home and who lived homeless later in life I can see that you are not breaking down every obstacle on the way to living your own independent life.

anything like "Cant move out because Have to leave NZ" keeps you stuck living with your parents.

You need to move out and get jacked FIRST my weedy little incel friend.

One thing at a time.

[The Catalyst]

To be diplomatic I will admit I have issues with my life and with myself in general. I'm not going to call you out like I did with JW because there's reason for me to believe you're not acting in bad faith and it doesn't seem you're deliberately misleading and it seems you're genuinely trying to help. If that's true, I'm grateful.

I'll say the things I agree with first so the drama is kept to a minimum.

I agree I need to get out of my family situation.

I agree I am not breaking down every obstacle.

I agree I am not a chad.

I agree moving out and getting jacked is really good.

I agree I go too far when talking about NZ. I believe most of my foreign friends would agree with me if they come here though. One of them went back to the US for this reason. I probably would not go this far when I leave NZ but I still believe what I say is true(that is, I'm not bullshitting).

Anyway... it seems people are putting words in my mouth.

I actually wouldn't say I have a problem with Scottish girls. Incidentally I did pretty well with a Scottish girl, got her home, didn't bang. Now she's not as good as my exp with Euro girls or the Colombian girl. Whatever. I realise Scotland is under the umbrella of Britain and she is pretty British, so seems people can get that conclusion.

I've never insisted everything about me was good enough or that I didn't want to improve.

I've never said there were no problems with me, in a general context. (Although it depends on context. Maybe I said there were no problems with me in a specific context, in which case I wouldn't mind clarifying)

While I agree that NPCness is global, none of my foreign friends are NPCs while more than half of my Kiwi "friends" are. In this case by Kiwi friend I mean someone I care about meeting up with and doing activities with. If I was to be more broad with my definition of Kiwi friend then most of them would be NPCs. Keep in mind, none of my foreign friends who I talk to regularly are. In particular my American friends are the least NPC. Euro and Asian friends are nowhere near as NPC as my Kiwi "friends" though. This is true both online and in real life.

[Bienvenuto]

Well said OP.

Hopefully you can find some help from others on the forum.

One step at a time.

[Oak]

(03-18-2019 06:13 AM)the.king Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 05:36 PM)Oak Wrote:  

This is to counter the anglo/western women hate in this forum.

- Anglo countries produce the most high quality women, but they're inaccessible to nearly all men.

In my opinion (after a lot of interactions with British girls, in various environments) their hyped 'higher quality' is like the emperor's clothes - there is nothing there really.

Repost from the London thread:

AWALT

EE girls generally have stronger fathers and a patriarchal culture that regulates their behavior.

I can perfectly understand why men want this, but it doesn't make EE women inherently higher quality than western women. I think they might be naturally more submissive than western women, but this isn't a good thing in itself.

The reason so many western women are feral is IMO partly because they relentlessly shit test their men. Western men, starting with boomers, stopped passing these shit tests. I think this is probably due to dysgenics and lowered testosterone. Their ancestors continually passed these tests, making them better men.

My comments were from the perspective of a white western man. Other men will have different rankings, and it's natural for every nonself-hating man to put their own women on top.

If white western men are finding it easier with nonwestern women you should ask why it is easier, and not equate ease of access or ease of submission with higher quality. Higher quality western women screen and test men extremely hard and for good reason.

Apologies to OP for hijacking the thread, but you can blame the mods for closing the unpopular opinions thread.

[Matt Warner]

Hi OP

I have lived in both NZ and Australia. On reading your posts I think you need to be a little less negative and get out and do stuff. Become an interesting guy and have hobbies etc. Meet women that way, I'm a lot older but get many IOU'S its quite surprising.
Not sure you've been there but I find many of the Japanese people I know (plus been there a few times) as big a drinker as any Aussi's I know.

You're Asian. The female ones I know can be just as if not more ruthless than Anglo girls.
Hey if you can't make it in NZ and especially so Auckland I wouldn't waste the effort in places like Sydney.

Also from an Anglo point of view be careful of criticism of us. I actually get quite pissed at non anglo's especially Chinese putting us down, lazy etc. Every place / race has good and bad points.

Also before you call me racist my FB and a some friends are Asian and all foreign born as well.

[sterlingarcher]

Because they are mostly entitled cunts, who despite the same access to social media and travel as everyone else, have a RIDICULOUSLY inflated sense of value.

[The Catalyst]

(04-03-2019 11:14 PM)Matt Warner Wrote:  

Hi OP

I have lived in both NZ and Australia. On reading your posts I think you need to be a little less negative and get out and do stuff. Become an interesting guy and have hobbies etc. Meet women that way, I'm a lot older but get many IOU'S its quite surprising.
Not sure you've been there but I find many of the Japanese people I know (plus been there a few times) as big a drinker as any Aussi's I know.

You're Asian. The female ones I know can be just as if not more ruthless than Anglo girls.
Hey if you can't make it in NZ and especially so Auckland I wouldn't waste the effort in places like Sydney.

Also from an Anglo point of view be careful of criticism of us. I actually get quite pissed at non anglo's especially Chinese putting us down, lazy etc. Every place / race has good and bad points.

Also before you call me racist my FB and a some friends are Asian and all foreign born as well.

I will put it out there that I am more racist than the vast majority of Anglos.

I am not complaining about Anglo ruthlessness. But I feel bad frightening these girls.

[Elmore]

There seems to be a real cultural thing with the British and i'd guess by extension Antipodean female, to take a vicarious thrill at shooting down males. Ideally this will be done while their friends are witnessing, so they can get the little bump of value from being hit on, whilst also appear dismissive and curt to the man, delivering what in their mind is a withering put down, accompanied with a roll of the eyes... This has been massively exacerbated by the last decade or so of openly anti-male culture that has taken root, and is perpetuated within academia, and pushed in the media at every turn. You only need to watch British tv to see this everywhere... Factor in the 'laddishness' of British women (drinking to excess, poor standards of conduct, loud and trashy on nights out), they really are the bottom of the Euro barrell IMHO.

[RWIsrael]

OP I agree with some of your points but the game is always the same - instead of complaining about how these women SHOULD behave and how bad their sense of entitlement is, find out what kind of guys ARE getting these girls and learn from them. You may have to change your own behaviour to vet success.

[CleanSlate]

(04-05-2019 02:36 AM)RWIsrael Wrote:  

OP I agree with some of your points but the game is always the same - instead of complaining about how these women SHOULD behave and how bad their sense of entitlement is, find out what kind of guys ARE getting these girls and learn from them. You may have to change your own behaviour to vet success.

That's one way to do it, but not only would you have to change your outward behavior, you'd also have to change the way you think so you'd be truly congruent with your actions. Western women are relentless at shit testing, and if you haven't fully internalized your outward behavioral changes, the whole house of cards comes tumbling down. Even in a LTR, if you fail even one, you are finished - even though you might not know it yet.

I propose an alternative. Interact with non-Western women and be happier for it in the long run. Problem is, you might have to move out of your home country.

Like it or not, that's the choice we all face today.

[Obermarschall]

(04-05-2019 03:49 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(04-05-2019 02:36 AM)RWIsrael Wrote:  

OP I agree with some of your points but the game is always the same - instead of complaining about how these women SHOULD behave and how bad their sense of entitlement is, find out what kind of guys ARE getting these girls and learn from them. You may have to change your own behaviour to vet success.

That's one way to do it, but not only would you have to change your outward behavior, you'd also have to change the way you think so you'd be truly congruent with your actions. Western women are relentless at shit testing, and if you haven't fully internalized your outward behavioral changes, the whole house of cards comes tumbling down. Even in a LTR, if you fail even one, you are finished - even though you might not know it yet.

I propose an alternative. Interact with non-Western women and be happier for it in the long run. Problem is, you might have to move out of your home country.

Like it or not, that's the choice we all face today.

Definitely would need to move, because once they come to the West, they get infiltrated by left-indoctrinated thoughts. Leftism is a disease, a virus and once caught it will never leave.

[JekyllAndHyde]

I don't know about everyone else but I am glad I am not the only one who is getting tired of hearing the accent of local Aussie girls regardless of ethnicity.
The Australian accent is so masculine it is sounding increasingly unattractive to me compared to many other accents.

This brown Yank/Canadian tells it like it is at 3:15:

Quote:

Like even when I was in Australia I was dating this fuckin' Australian girl.
When she would talk it's 'cause her accent was just so strong I'd just be like:
You know what? Don't talk.

Or just have a quick listen to any Bachelorette Australia episode and you get the idea.

[Bogart]

As a Sydney guy who’s spent the last year relearning the ropes after a hiatus this vibes with my experience. I’m a mid twenties tall, reasonably fit lawyer with descent game, style and bankroll. I can cold approach without getting blown out reasonably reliably at night but the interactions, though not blow outs, are usually awkward, weird or boring even when there are IOIs and enthusiasm in the girls part. Regular make outs and/or number closes off good interactions rarely translate into dates/bangs. Pulling ONSs is difficult because Anglo girls in Sydney are super prudish insofar as they carry this girls school mentality of slut shaming each other (even though many of them are filthy skanks away from prying social circle eyes). Scandanavians don’t have the sexual/slut hang ups, and Slavs/asians/latinos/euros don’t have the lack of feminity that makes traditional game harder.

I find that at any given night venue or day game area I’m likely to speak to FOB Slavic/Scandinavia girls. I feel almost no motivation after so many average to poor experiences with anglos.

My advice for how to tackle this is as follows:

For anglos in Australia I’d target younger aussies yet to be fully corrupted. The late teen girls are interested in learning about you as an older interesting dude and are more open to masculine presence, or having fun/bantering rather than doing the whole social status litmus test and picky/prude bitchy ego deflation routine. Cold approach is novel and they will be intrigued.

Any Anglo girl over 21, especially 6.5+ Has that same holier than thou attitude.... I would say social circle can curb that a bit, but I socialise with lots of attractive girls in the 22-27 age range from upper crust schools and professions. They respond well enough to masculine behaviour but are incredibly skittish if you aren’t highly supportive and available to them, and can neutralise the elaborate social network that will likely accompany them to whatever bar/club and I really think it’s because they’ve all been alpha widowed at least once and have a few pump and dumps given the chaotic state of the sexual marketplace in the Anglosphere over the last 5/10 years. Lots of girls in this demo are now sleeping around without commitment in ways that wouldn’t have been so common 10 years ago and I think they end up really damaged and jaded quickly because of that. They also loath sexless betas so really you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

I’m reminded of Hearistes old gem https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/08/...e-bracket/ as my gut is that OP is approaching that demographic of mid 20s girls. Having dated a few of these in recent months I can honestly say anything local over a 6+ In Sydney from this demo is literally not worth your time on cold approach. Random hookups are beneath these queen bees and will happen through luck, alcohol and poor judgment/the failure of her social circle protection systems. The only success I’ve consistently seen is if you meet and ‘build attraction’ through a back door e.g. working together, study groups, meeting at a friends party, seeing each other around regularly at the same places consistently over a period of months. That said guys I know with top game who’ve smashed girls above their SMV via this route can’t do so consistently and reliably with 7+ girls. They are the pump and dump players.

The game we practice, hone and teach is something of a relic from a pre 2010s anglosphere. I think without fame or truly impressive SMV (9+ looks) you just can’t expect to tag really quality (7+) Anglo women through cold approach reliably. My most successful player friends are reliably smashing 6.5>, and these are guys who have pulled foursomes with top women in previous years, or fucked many 100s of women.

Older women, 30+ are much easier. They actually do approach and will likely not be as fucked up in interactions. I just don’t find them attractive as a rule and have only gone that old once.

It’s also just not worth it when attractive (and crucially more femnine and interesting) tourists are so plentiful, and regularly find the other local Aussie guys just as insufferable as we find our women.

[Jungle]

(03-16-2019 05:36 PM)Oak Wrote:  

- Anglo countries produce the most high quality women, but they're inaccessible to nearly all men.

I'm sorry but that's just ridiculous.

It's very easy to prove that your statement is false. Here's how:

Firstly, factor in the variance for demographic/neighbourhood etc etc etc of different areas of different cities. Ok, then walk down an average street in the following locations:
- Edinburgh
- Sydney
- Auckland
- Cardiff
- Dublin

Ok, then walk down an average street in the following cities:
- Kharkiv
- St Petersburg
- Tallinn
- Krakow
- Chisinau

What do you witness? You witness a huge downgrade in the quality of females in anglo nations compared to the others.

There's a huge undersupply in "high quality women" in anglo countries. The reason = culture, of course. There's a massive lack of femininity in anglo women. But the elephant in the room is the obesity epidemic - it's a huge problem which still doesn't get enough attention in red pill community. It has made the sexual market place lopsided and completely out of balance.

[The Catalyst]

(04-15-2019 03:46 AM)Jungle Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 05:36 PM)Oak Wrote:  

- Anglo countries produce the most high quality women, but they're inaccessible to nearly all men.

I'm sorry but that's just ridiculous.

It's very easy to prove that your statement is false. Here's how:

I think he means the [most high quality] women, not most [high quality women]. Which is to say the best Anglo girls are better than the best non-Anglo girls. I don't know if this is true yet. In Budapest, it's interesting. The average girl is 2 points better and doesn't have psychological issues. Yet the % of stunners(8.5+) is still shockingly lower than I expected. According to the Budapest thread though the girls just don't look that good though. I think I see barely more stunners here than back home.

Yeah, the typical Anglo girl does suck really hard though.

[Jungle]

(04-15-2019 03:53 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

(04-15-2019 03:46 AM)Jungle Wrote:  

(03-16-2019 05:36 PM)Oak Wrote:  

- Anglo countries produce the most high quality women, but they're inaccessible to nearly all men.

I'm sorry but that's just ridiculous.

I think he means the [most high quality] women, not most [high quality women]. Which is to say the best Anglo girls are better than the best non-Anglo girls.

So, you mean, that Anglo countries produce the highest quality women? Well, statement also isn't true and is plain silly. I'm not sure which metric one chooses to use to measure "quality", but from my experience the only metrics which Anglo women are superior to slavic women (for example) would be the following:
- English speaking ability (obviously)
- sense of humour & story-telling.
- wealth (personal or family).
... & perhaps a few other aspects which don't come to mind.

In other important categories such as physical beauty, femininity, intelligence, care-giving, sweetness, family-oriented etc etc it's slavic countries which in my experience creates much higher quality than Anglo culture.

[Bananaman711]

Anglo women are one of the least feminine and most repulsive women, if you look at them you will see they are turning into men, their faces, bodies, walk, talk, behavior,etc.


Social engineers want to get rid of sexes by empowering women and emasculating men(skinny jeans soyboy ) and I think they are doing great job, anglo are always the first to start trends, other simply follow.
As women become more competitive their testosterone levels go up. WHen was the last time you saw anglo women that is sweet, feminine and affectionate? They dont make them like that anymore, thanks to feminism we are stuck with ones only mother could love

[Oak]

(04-20-2019 06:47 AM)Jungle Wrote:  

So, you mean, that Anglo countries produce the highest quality women? Well, statement also isn't true and is plain silly. I'm not sure which metric one chooses to use to measure "quality", but from my experience the only metrics which Anglo women are superior to slavic women (for example) would be the following:
- English speaking ability (obviously)
- sense of humour & story-telling.
- wealth (personal or family).
... & perhaps a few other aspects which don't come to mind.

In other important categories such as physical beauty, femininity, intelligence, care-giving, sweetness, family-oriented etc etc it's slavic countries which in my experience creates much higher quality than Anglo culture.

Yes, I think at the top end anglo women are the highest quality. In terms of physical beauty I think they have the best faces (at the top end).

The other qualities you mention are not qualities of women. They are mainly a reflection of the qualities of the men in their family and community. Being feminine or family-oriented is a product of their male relatives and patriarchal society/religion.

I do however agree that EE girls are genetically wired to shit-test less than anglo women/western women, and be more submissive regardless of their surroundings. But this isn't actually a good thing as they pass down these agreeable/submissive traits to their sons.

Some of my thoughts were inspired by this comment on Vox's blog.

Quote:

Marcus Marcellus wrote:
English-speaking and especially Celtic-American women are not like other white women. There is a pronounced mean-spiritedness to them culturally. They do not like men except in wanting to be men and in taking pleasures away from them.

That is called shit-testing, and the escalation into full-blown feminism is equally the fault of the men who consistently failed them.

More shy and submissive men (and I'm not criticizing - I've been there) may find this horrifying, but willingness to question authority is central to creativity and technological progress. It's very likely that the same genes that made Britain and later America globally dominant are the ones that code for these extreme shit tests. You want the men to have these traits, so they can defend their women, live out on the frontier, or revolt against terrible leadership like what we have today.

The most important quality of a woman is the type of sons and grandsons they might produce and anglo women are the best for this. Unfortunately, the admirable qualities they pass down to your sons manifest themselves as ruthless, world-champion shit-testing in women. The main problem with anglo women isn't anglo women, it's anglo men. They've let this shit-testing get out of hand.

If you liberate anglo women entirely this shit-testing gets so out of hand that you have tribal shit-tests encouraging feminism and mass immigration. And at the individual level you end up with privately educated heiresses being cut to death during sex because the only man who could pass her tests is a meathead with a face-tattoo who likes knife-play.

[tugofpeace]

Unbelievable how deluded people are. You paint white women as unfuckable devils.

Really, not nearly as difficult as you guys make it out to be.

Step 1: be attractive
Step 2: don’t be unattractive
Step 3: have balls

By the logic of everything said in this thread, you need to be 6’4”, 240lbs at 6% bodyfit with an 8 figure bankroll, modeling gig, and a 10/10 girl underneath each arm just to not get blown out by a 6/10 white girl upon approaching.

LOL

[The Catalyst]

(04-30-2019 12:42 PM)tugofpeace Wrote:  

Unbelievable how deluded people are. You paint white women as unfuckable devils.

Really, not nearly as difficult as you guys make it out to be.

Step 1: be attractive
Step 2: don’t be unattractive
Step 3: have balls

By the logic of everything said in this thread, you need to be 6’4”, 240lbs at 6% bodyfit with an 8 figure bankroll, modeling gig, and a 10/10 girl underneath each arm just to not get blown out by a 6/10 white girl upon approaching.

I have been reading every post in this thread, and I don't recall anyone saying what you think people are saying...

(04-30-2019 07:38 AM)Oak Wrote:  

I do however agree that EE girls are genetically wired to shit-test less than anglo women/western women, and be more submissive regardless of their surroundings. But this isn't actually a good thing as they pass down these agreeable/submissive traits to their sons.

Some of my thoughts were inspired by this comment on Vox's blog.

Quote:

Marcus Marcellus wrote:
English-speaking and especially Celtic-American women are not like other white women. There is a pronounced mean-spiritedness to them culturally. They do not like men except in wanting to be men and in taking pleasures away from them.

That is called shit-testing, and the escalation into full-blown feminism is equally the fault of the men who consistently failed them.

More shy and submissive men (and I'm not criticizing - I've been there) may find this horrifying, but willingness to question authority is central to creativity and technological progress. It's very likely that the same genes that made Britain and later America globally dominant are the ones that code for these extreme shit tests. You want the men to have these traits, so they can defend their women, live out on the frontier, or revolt against terrible leadership like what we have today.

The most important quality of a woman is the type of sons and grandsons they might produce and anglo women are the best for this. Unfortunately, the admirable qualities they pass down to your sons manifest themselves as ruthless, world-champion shit-testing in women. The main problem with anglo women isn't anglo women, it's anglo men. They've let this shit-testing get out of hand.

Sounds like to me, in my experience Anglos(Kiwis, Aussies, Brits) and in particular Kiwis don't question authority at all. In fact, it's implicit that if the government says something that it's right because of that...