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Is There Another Way To Deal With Autism?
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Is There Another Way To Deal With Autism?

Not sure how to “deal” with it, seems like everyone is depressed or has some malaise of the mind these days even we live in the most prosperous and easy times in human history. I think we evolved to deal with struggle and survive and our brains haven’t caught up with the modern society that we live in, causing all kinds of issues. Anyway that’s a bit off topic.

As far as autism goes, I’ve seen/heard several compelling theories. One is that the prevalence of autism increases with maternal drug use, I think I read SSRI’s in particular. Makes sense with all the antidepressants and what not. Another was maternal obesity. You can use a search engine of your choice to look deeper into it, but we all know how “scientific studies” are these days. Just food for thought
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Is There Another Way To Deal With Autism?

Here's my uneducated and borderline tinfoil hat opinion on it: it's trendy. Every decade their is a mental/behavioral disorder that gets hot and the people that stand to make money off fo it perpetuate it.

I don't think autism is actually on the rise, it's just over-diagnosed. Just like ADD was trendy in 1990-2000, and bi-polar and OCD was trendy in 2000-2010, now we have autism for 2010-2020. I think the chatter and diagnosis of this disorder will taper off in a few more years then there will be something else. Autism is especially profitable because you can charge parents tons of money to send their autistic kids to special schools to help them "grow and develop to the best of their abilities." It's further convoluted by the fact that we live in a time where it is getting more and more difficult to socialize children (and even young adults) because of our reliance on technology and fear of exposure.
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Is There Another Way To Deal With Autism?

Quote: (01-02-2019 03:02 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Here's my uneducated and borderline tinfoil hat opinion on it: it's trendy. Every decade their is a mental/behavioral disorder that gets hot and the people that stand to make money off fo it perpetuate it.

I don't think autism is actually on the rise, it's just over-diagnosed. Just like ADD was trendy in 1990-2000, and bi-polar and OCD was trendy in 2000-2010, now we have autism for 2010-2020. I think the chatter and diagnosis of this disorder will taper off in a few more years then there will be something else. Autism is especially profitable because you can charge parents tons of money to send their autistic kids to special schools to help them "grow and develop to the best of their abilities." It's further convoluted by the fact that we live in a time where it is getting more and more difficult to socialize children (and even young adults) because of our reliance on technology and fear of exposure.

I think some of the over diagnoses is caused by the massively feminized schools we have today. Normal "boy" behaviour is so different from the expected "girl like" behavior that it is being called autism, when in reality it's completely normal.
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Is There Another Way To Deal With Autism?

I have an autistic friend. Even he says that whenever he wants something from his mother he exaggerates the autism to get what he wants. This friend acts like Eric Cartman and it works, so there we go, autism is exaggerated and people with it know that they can leverage it for their own benefits
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Is There Another Way To Deal With Autism?

@BlastbeatCasanova: We are humans, not God, so it stands to reason that we will all be forever deficient in some way or other as the only entity which could ever even in theory be perfect is God. I think you are right about us not having had sufficient time to evolve and adapt to the modern world and that this has contributed to our rising rates of things like depression. Many of the things which once gave fulfillment to humans are now irrelevant or inaccessible to most.

I suspect that females entering the workforce en masse and taking over education has exacerbated things a great deal. No one seems to have been made happier by it. Many men are obviously less happy because wages stagnate when you suddenly double the workforce and competition for jobs, they have to wait longer to start having sex and all that because women have to finish college and whatnot, and all the other issues we know about. Women are less happy for it all too though as there are increasingly fewer men who are their financial and social superiors and, the more they enhance their CVs, the fewer eligible men there are (and this is to say nothing of whether or not the remaining men will still want them as they age).

To be honest, I'm not sure what exactly causes autism other than a genetic predisposition and a metaphorical flip of the reproductive coin. It would not necessarily be shocking to me if some concrete proof came out that things like chemical (such as SSRI) exposure, diet, etc. during and even prior to pregnancy were minor contributing factors and that, if you have enough of them at once, they add up. We already know that certain things other than randomness cause DNA mutation that can sometimes even be passed down to offspring such as carcinogens, Agent Orange, and obesity. In the same way that things like meditation and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy do, over time, alter the function and even physical structure of the brain (neuroplasticity), lifestyle choices alter one's DNA as their ever-reproducing cells attempt to adapt to whatever sort of lifestyle they have chosen.

@General Stalin: It is definitely trendy, most probably for the novelty factor I already mentioned in my previous posts here but also I think because, on the part of the parent(s), it is easier for someone to simply claim that their kid is behaving badly because they are autistic than to admit that they suck at raising children and/or have not made sufficient effort to properly socialize them and are essentially neglecting their kids and willfully depriving them of the parental guidance and support that they, as children, are in need of. Adults can be held responsible for their behavior but a child can only be expected to intuit and figure out so much on their own.

I agree that Autism is almost certainly over-diagnosed at this point for the reasons we mentioned and that a lot of it is a scam. This is why I don't believe in leaning on it as a crutch. If I make an accidental mistake of some kind and it is a direct result of the abnormality, I prefer to recognize it as such but then to address and resolve the issue whenever possible as opposed to just saying "I'm ___ and therefor I'll never be up to standard." If nothing else, what could be more damaging to a man's game than to say that he'll never be up to standard and will always refuse to engage his problems?

@chicane: I definitely agree with you here, especially as many if not most of the behavioral characteristics which indicate Autism (as always, I'm referring to High-Functioning Autism) are known to essentially be extreme variants of normal male behavioral characteristics. Personally, I suspect that Autism is not a disorder so much as it is an evolved adaptation carried in certain genetic lines. DNA is constantly adapting and mutating in response to environment and lifestyle in an attempt to both survive and compete for reproduction.

Maybe some peoples' DNA way back in the day just decided to toss some of the natural social aptitude in order to make them more sensitive to predators (noise sensitivity) and better tool makers and innovators (high IQ and weird obsessive interests). Who needed Casanova-level social skills anyway in an era (most of our evolutionary history) when men communicated more directly, communication with women was not as needed, and everyone got married and/or started screwing before they were 15? For some people, the DNA seems to have decided that those other things were higher priorities. I think a big part of why Autism is a hot topic now, unlike how it was for Archimedes and Socrates, is that society and pretty much the entire professional world (which, even more than society itself, has always been the domain of men) have been completely dominated by females who naturally impose their own rules and ways of doing things on the whole. I think that all men are being disadvantaged by this but perhaps autistic men are just more noticeably so as a result of their evolved specialized extremity.

@Mikestar: I've experimented with this in the past but found it to be harmful to my self esteem so, now, as a rule, I only mention Autism when doing so paints me in a positive and admirable light, such as when subtly bragging about how I overcame certain things instead of just giving up or when explaining some complex and abnormal but effective solution that I came up with to solve a problem. It is wise to leverage your strengths and turn weaknesses into strengths when you can, all the better if you can make yourself more interesting in the process by emphasizing certain archetypal traits which are already present in you. If I have any role models in this regard, I'd say they are guys like the Dos Equis man, Rod Serling of Twilight Zone fame, and a little bit of Rick from Rick and Morty (0:17) because girls dig the cynical smart guy who can blow their minds by picking apart some idea or belief they have but also making them laugh in the process (that guilty laugh that they try to hold in because they don't want to admit that you're right) and I am already inclined toward cynicism so it doesn't feel unnatural for me. All I needed really was to practice delivery like a comedian.
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