[lunchmoney]

We have touched on dating/banging single mothers in various threads, but this topic I could not find. I approached a 6/6.5 yesterday at the grocery store (favorite after work game spot during the week), and exchanged #s. She hit me up last night, and we talked a bit, setting up plans for tonight. Earlier today, she told she had to go home and check on her baby, which I assumed was an actual kid. She then sends me a photo of her puppy.

I asked her why she called the dog her baby, and she almost defensively said "because she is". I haven't encountered this before, so just played it off and kept my day going.

I am going to meet her shortly for drinks, and I am sure this topic will arise, but any of you guys have experience with pet loving pussy?

[Karlo]

My experience with “dogs moms” is they are generally “dirtier” and not in a sexual way. Especially if they let there medium to full size dogs sleep in the bed with them. Expect there to be dog dander in the sheets. Gross. Also, dogs clean there ass with there mouth and then their “dog moms” let them go a2m. Dog moms love having there babies lick there face.

[kaotic]

Just ignore when they say, "dog mom" "fur baby" "fur kids" etc.

It's just another basic bitch conversation you don't need to have, acknowledge and move on.

Animals are cool have, if you've ever had a dog then you understand that connection/emotional bond especially if they grew up with you as a kid.

But men aren't going to go out of their way to call them their son or brother.

It's just girls being girls, and going with the "norm" because all the other girls are saying.

[JackinMelbourne]

Pets on beds and couches are filthy. Nothing worse than having you or your clothes covered in cat hair or having cat hair in your mouth or waking up with an animal on your face.

Anyway, what question are you really asking OP?

[Tiger Man]

If you are asking if this is some sort of red flag, I would say that it could be.

I think it's a matter of degrees.

First, there is the number of pets. One dog or cat might be fine. Plenty of guys have a dog. And, although we might behave a bit differently towards it, I don't think there is anything inherently unstable about simply having a pet. On the other end of the spectrum are the collectors and once and future cat ladies. These girls are usual a real problem and should be avoided.

Second, there is the way that they treat the pet(s). That "fur baby" stuff is, as kaotic said, just some girl stuff. But, if they buy wardrobes for their dog and send out Christmas cards with the thing sitting on Santa's lap, you have a problem.

Third, you have her treatment of you, as goes the pet(s). I have noticed that some women are really concerned about you "getting along with" their pets. It is almost like how some single mothers are with their kids. They are trying to integrate you in to their world, and getting you and the pet to like each other is part of this. That can be a problem if you aren't really a pet person or the pet doesn't take to you. For a girl who's a bit more on the spectrum, this will probably be a dealbreaker for her. Stable women generally aren't super interested (at first) that you and the pet are best friends.

That's all I can think of on that topic.

Note: There are some members of the forum who think that girls are, quite often, a bit more, ahem, friendly with their dogs than might be considered normal. If you suspect something like that, eject, obviously.

[king bast]

How old is she? If young, its just a manifestation of the nurturing, motherly instinct that all women should have. It could be a sign of an emotionally healthy young woman.

But if shes older, its definitely a proxy for a real child. She is so oblivious to her own wants, let alone anyone elses, that she never recognised that the urge that drove her to get a totally dependent animal was actually natures way of telling her "breed you idiot!" She'll just get crazier and crazier, like all childless women do.

[YossariansRight]

   

[Thor]

I dated one. She was 31 and didn't have kids but had a small dog. She called it her baby. Most of the time it was kept at her parents house. Me having kids was in her mind "baggage" . She had some serious problems and I think it had a lot to do with her not having her own family in her 20´s.

After that I came across a thread here on the forum dealing directly with this subject, which was very enlightening. As a general rule I now stay away from these girls. Its a red flag to me, especially around the 30 year mark and over.

[lunchmoney]

Thanks guys on the feedback, here's the update. We ended up at a wine bar near her house, however she was feeling under the weather so it didn't escalate after the drinks. She's 29 (will be 30 in January), and owns two dogs. Why I know all about these dogs? She spent roughly ten minutes talking about them, as if they were her kids, because in her mind they are. She's owned them since college, which explains the emotional connection. She hinted at either not wanting actual children or perhaps not being able to have children when the topic of family and future arose, which I thought was a dealbreaker. Either way, I left there thinking she's a plate at best (only because I think the sex might be good), but I am not putting much effort into this one.

[MANic]

Perhaps, although, to be frank, most of the "dog mums" I meet are more sane than the real single mums. Signs of the times I guess.

[wi30]

Women for the most part are pretty awful at training dogs. Especially big dogs. Chihuahuas and Shih-Tzus can't do much damage to a home, people, or other dogs. Rottweilers and Pitbulls can. It's a good thing if you come across a woman with a well-behaved dog. However, most dogs are horribly trained if only raised by an American woman.

Cats are a red flag no matter what. Fuck cats.

[Leonard D Neubache]

I came here assuming this was a thread about beta orbiters.

[Pytonga]

(11-16-2018 04:42 AM)wi30 Wrote:  

Cats are a red flag no matter what. Fuck cats.

I second that.
The girl that I just nexted - she has two cats and one big dog. I stayed twice in her house and it was mental.

[MargaretRodriguez]

(11-15-2018 07:10 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Just ignore when they say, "dog mom" "fur baby" "fur kids" etc.

It's just another basic bitch conversation you don't need to have, acknowledge and move on.

Animals are cool have, if you've ever had a dog then you understand that connection/emotional bond especially if they grew up with you as a kid.

But men aren't going to go out of their way to call them their son or brother.

It's just girls being girls, and going with the "norm" because all the other girls are saying.

Hey, I agree with you, pets are good.

[questor70]

I love animals but if you intend on treating them properly they are like having toddlers. And as far as cats vs. dogs go, dogs require walking and have that musky smell to them which I don't like. Cats are capable of being left alone for longer periods of time but a responsible pet owner wouldn't do that. It's that added responsibility which is the biggest problem. If she doesn't have anyone to mind the pets then she's locked in at her place for the most part. If she lives any distance away then you'll be burning lots of time and gas going to her place all the time.

[Maximummax]

Some girls use pets to show off mainly on social media

[kaotic]

(11-16-2018 11:54 AM)Maximummax Wrote:  

Some girls use ̶p̶e̶t̶s̶̶ their bodies to show off mainly on social media

Fixed it for you.

[questor70]

Some girls who aren't that hot use pets to show off on social media. This is especially true on dating apps where they make it seem like they want you to date their pet instead of them.

[wp960]

Big Nope for me.

Screen these women out. Dog mammas put their dogs before you- its their surrogate children. Very f*ed up. Like the other poster said, they sleep with them, they are the replacement man.

Plus- you lose a lot of spontaneity- want to take off for the weekend out of town? gotta get the dog a sitter or take it. Holiday? same. always walking the dog, etc.

plus black suits and dog hair? f* that. 99% don't ever train the dog so it licks and jumps and claws and sniffs its totally out of control.

Plenty of other women out there. Next.

[Max RNR]

(11-15-2018 06:36 PM)lunchmoney Wrote:  

We have touched on dating/banging single mothers in various threads, but this topic I could not find. I approached a 6/6.5 yesterday at the grocery store (favorite after work game spot during the week), and exchanged #s. She hit me up last night, and we talked a bit, setting up plans for tonight. Earlier today, she told she had to go home and check on her baby, which I assumed was an actual kid. She then sends me a photo of her puppy.

I asked her why she called the dog her baby, and she almost defensively said "because she is". I haven't encountered this before, so just played it off and kept my day going.

I am going to meet her shortly for drinks, and I am sure this topic will arise, but any of you guys have experience with pet loving pussy?

I had an LTR with an 8/10 Americanized Russian woman years ago who had a big black labrador retriever from her previous marriage. Damn thing was fine except during sex with her. It always would stare, bark, and try to lick our feet. I thought it was annoying. She thought it was normal. I was like: "WTF, woman? Get this dog out of the room!" I finally got her to give the poor nurtured thing back to her ex and moved things toward my place for encounters because her "home" house smelled like dog and some other man.

For younger women, however, I can forgive their pets. They are like real live teddy bears to them that help them cope with our big bad world and allow them to practice some of their nurturing nature -- which is better than nothing in these terrible days to keep them tuned to their deeper level.

The pet red flag level goes higher the older the woman gets.

[Atlanta Man]

I have not fucked a women without some kind of animal in more than 8 years. Seriously, it is more common to meet a woman under 30 without tattoos than without an animal. I will take it a step further and say I have only had one date with a woman without an animal, it was an awful date but that fact that she had no kids or pets was notable.

[lunchmoney]

(11-16-2018 07:45 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

I have not fucked a women without some kind of animal in more than 8 years. Seriously, it is more common to meet a woman under 30 without tattoos than without an animal. I will take it a step further and say I have only had one date with a woman without an animal, it was an awful date but that fact that she had no kids or pets was notable.

I think that depends on the race of woman you are gaming.

These are just my observations from those I've encountered this year throughout various cities:

White women under 30 - nearly all have a pet (usually a small dog).
Black women under 30 - 25% have a small pet
Latina women under 30 - most have a child, so a pet is an afterthought

[griffinmill]

I love dogs, but it's insane the number of women today who have these animals (sometimes a team of them) in their home. If you're dating them, you're dating the dogs too.

One of the most typical examples I have is a date from a few years ago. Went back to her house at the end of the night and her small, yappy, hyper-alert dog sat like a stone right between us on the couch, erect, facing forward, like a fucking beefeater outside Buckingham Palace. Anytime I moved a finger it made a move toward me.

Another example is being in bed with a chick on the second date and her Jack Russel (probably the worst breed out there) in the room with us. When I finally insisted it be moved to another room, with the door closed, it made a noise that could only be described as hurling itself repeatedly against the wall.

Then there are the women who have big monster dogs, sometimes two or three, in the house.

I understand women (especially single, childless women) need to ventilate their nurturing, caregiver side and this is the easiest way they can do it, but fuck it's a lot of hassle when you're dating one of these women.

[Fuck This]

I distinctly remember a moment Post divorce when I met up with a woman I'd known for a number of years in the middle of the day, to help her with a favor that required my truck. Upon completing the task, she invited me to take a tour of the house, the last room of course was her bedroom. I looked at the dog hair that was all over the bedspread and the pillows, and that jarred me out of the lust that had built up.

Had that not been the case there is a very good chance I would have succumbed to my most base desires and mucked up a great friendship and wingwoman.

I've encountered quite a few women with horses, and I was married to one for 20 years...If you want 100% of your woman's attention, steer clear of them. That Horse will always come first....and if she has to choose, she will choose the horse everytime. Even to the detriment of your relationship, finances, and health.

Women with animals are not the problem, it is women with misallocated priorities that places the animals above the humans that becomes the issues. When the animals become a barrier to the relationship, cut bait and move on. They have the ability to bring people together for sure if it is a healthy relationship.