[Anon-A-Moose]

(10-05-2011 03:11 PM)BUCK Wrote:  

The goal of GAME is your cock in her mouth and in her pussy

you forgot her ass.

Bizarrely, we forget the main idea of game. For a good while I basically ran game just to feel good about myself and build confidence, but made subconscious excuses about why not to really go for it. Then again being a depressive fucks with your drive.

I think of rejection like trying to shoot at a range with a shotgun. Yes, it goes everywhere, and half the pellets miss, but half of them hit, and that's enough.

[XXL]

(11-18-2011 02:40 AM)Anon-A-Moose Wrote:  

(10-05-2011 03:11 PM)BUCK Wrote:  

The goal of GAME is your cock in her mouth and in her pussy

you forgot her ass.

Bizarrely, we forget the main idea of game. For a good while I basically ran game just to feel good about myself and build confidence, but made subconscious excuses about why not to really go for it. Then again being a depressive fucks with your drive.

I think of rejection like trying to shoot at a range with a shotgun. Yes, it goes everywhere, and half the pellets miss, but half of them hit, and that's enough.

definitely!

i don't know where it comes from but i see a lot of men so obsessed with practising game that they're happy that some girls laugh at their jokes and touch their arms. they're soooo happy : ) and when girls are cold they get all sad and go "i guess it didn't work".

to me this 'let's try this this and this on her to get her' game is flawed as it makes the guy is focused more on pushing her buttons and generating specific reactions instead of actualy getting the girl. that's when guys post something like "i went direct and she ignored me.." or "i used this swirly wirly superman trick but i guess it doesn't work on 10s". so their model of interaction is to use some shit to generate reaction and when it gets a little bit hard then they bail cause it didn't work of course. it's because they don't actually MEAN what they say/do, they just practise and execute the program to see how it will go.

now, believe me, when you MEAN what you do/say you don't give up until something really fucked up happens. if you're attracted from the get go, meaning that she's everything you see at that moment then when you go in and she's surprised or kind of cold you don't fucking leave. you demand attention! you don't want let her go. you want to break in there at all cost hahahaha. it's like "huh? where the hell you think you're going? HEY! i like you.. get with the program bitch" that's how it looks like when you following your true intentions. it's that total congruence when your thoughts, words and actions are aligned.

and btw persistance is not some kind of method to execute hahahah. it's natural thing to do when we want to get something we like right? there's no thinking about it, it's instinct.

following your true intention is my #1
just have fun with is my #2

[soup]

Posting a link to this to keep my ideas in order: Top Ten Pick Up Epiphanies by Neil Strauss http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-1263-p...#pid121081

[soup]

Just read this bit on Roissy's: " Unless you are the Don Juan of game, any “innocent” meeting (in her mind) that hints at a contrived pretext for sex will put a woman on guard. "

This is the fundamental justification for indirect game.

It also points to another idea that is up on my list of big game ideas: Deep empathy.

Deep empathy doesn't mean trying to make the girl feel better, but has to do with understanding the world from a woman's perspective (so you can get what you want of course).

This isn't just "game" stuff. In the course of most peoples' lifetimes, they undergo various stages of psychological/consciousness evolution. An example of this is when you are born. As a baby, you don't see any distinction between you and the world. But your mind evolves as you get older, and you realize that you and your mother aren't the same being. I think it's called individuation.

From what I've read, there are several stages of this kind of growth that occur in life, and they are coincide with different ages.

In many ways, I feel like game is a stage of this. Despite feminist teachings, women do not think the same way men do. It took me a while to come to grips with this. I wish there were some kind of "girl-goggles" that guys could see what girls are like on the inside (no pun intended). Then it would be a lot easier to start getting into game.

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Add this to the list: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-38539.html

Without a good location, you are at a great disadvantage.

An ideal location means an abundance of hot, available chicks.

But what does it mean for them to be available? You have to be attractive enough for them to be available to you.

It's hard to separate location from the other things.

[silviophonic]

I think a key game concept that we haven't mentioned here yet is the idea of reference experience.

The most common example of this is the 'natural', whose positive early reference experiences with girls snowballs into a devilmaycare, bulletproof confidence later in life.

A more personal example is this: I've recently felt a breakthrough in my game after I slept with 2 new girls in 1 week, with one of the them being one of hottest I've ever been with. Due to this very specific reference experience, my confidence has grown so that I am pretty much ignoring 6s (once my bread n' butter) and aggressively going for higher quality. I am literally cold approaching models and getting decent results (number closes, IOIs, instadates). Of course, there are still problems and sticking points (a higher level of game is required for higher quality girls, etc.) and who knows if I'll be back dumpster diving or dry spelling soon, but the point is: my breakthrough was due to positive reference experiences. I now know what's possible, for me, personally.

So bottomline: go out there, take action, get experience. It's the only way to improve.