[Roosh]

What kind of strategies do you guys use to film/photograph your women? I'm interested in details because I've been wholly unsuccessful at doing this in Poland. Not sure if I'm doing it wrong or if it's some cultural issue.

[Gmac]

You're trying to do it with her permission I'm assuming? Rookie is a pro at this stuff, you should talk to him.

[el mechanico]

With two Iphones I take mine and rest it on the pillow and flip her on top of me and let her watch the fuck on facetime. Then I put it on record and make insta porn.

[Roosh]

Yes, with permission.

I don't have an iphone.

[Jack Frost]

Ive got a few videos that I took on my phone during sex and blowjobs. Obviously we were both drunk as shit. The way ive had the most success is to start taping earlier while clothes are still on and youre talking to her a bit almost interview like then move into kissing her and still filming. They become almost used to the camera as opposed to being startled by it if you break it out while youre already getting after it.

[Sushifan]

If this is a girl that youve already banged, start off by just saying, "show me your rack" and then just pull out the camera and take a pic.

She will try to hide her face, so take a few more and then coax her to show her face too. A little dream weaving helps as does alcohol ("you could model professionally if you put a bit more effort into it")

BJ pics are easy since technically she's not showing her private parts - it's just you and her face. The next step is full on pics during action.

90% of girls will go for it. A good reassurance for her is "don't worry, I'll give you the camera and you can delete the pics after". She'll forget.

here's an example from a couple weeks ago. bit of a blurry pic, but you get the idea.

[Tuthmosis]

I find that I've had the most success by having the camera as part of my normal existence (i.e., not just when we're about to bone down). I take pictures--or at least carry a simple point-and-shoot camera--as a matter of routine (though I avoid taking girls' pictures before fucking them because it creates the wrong vibe). Girls get kind of used to the idea that I have a camera around, a comfort that's reinforced when I eventually take normal pictures of her "to record my life," an actual effort I've been making in the past few years. It's not that much of stretch when the camera comes out in various stages of undress, "fooling around," and sex.

She will act shy at first, but because she's used to seeing you with the camera, she won't object strongly or be completely weirded out by it. With some mild coaxing--and sometimes cool reassurance--she'll soften up and you can get your shots or videos. The second and third times is where you get your real gems.

This seems like a lot of work, but I think it's a worthwhile pursuit. Having pics of some of your conquests--especially the high-quality ones--does something for the player psyche.

[mrhappy]

I wish I had asked every girl Ive fucked if I could video her. The first time I did this was years ago. My girlfriend set the whole thing up, her camera etc. The next girl I filmed her on my first or second date. Results of those were mediocre partly due to bad lighting. Then I didnt do it for years until a string of chicks recently. When I turned on all the lights and held the camera in my hand the results were better. Ideally you want at least one, preferably two cameras on tripods from different angles and one handheld. A single camera on a tripod makes for boring porn. Also you need a camera that will shoot at least an hour on high resolution. Point and shoot digital still cameras that also shoot video won't do that, mine maxes at one hour very low res or 10 minutes high res. You don't want to have to stop fucking to change cards/media.
Only maybe 10% of girls will say yes to sex shots if you ask permission. More will let you take softcore or topless pics. You could try letting them keep the card/media as a carrot.
Of the times Ive done this only one has been a good amateur porn, cause she was really into sex, really cute and I held the camera, took multiple vids and had lots of light.
For better results youd need expensive cameras and a dedicated camera operator.
DIY porn looks nothing like real porn.
For still pictures its just like amateur clothed modeling, invest in a good digital slr, good flash, extra batteries, lots of 16-32 GB cards and shoot on burst mode so you can get a dozen shots in each angle. Have a script, costume changes and props ready. And treat her good and keep her happy. I wish I had done that with ex. I could have had 100s of hot pics.

[Gmac]

(10-03-2011 07:46 PM)mrhappy Wrote:  

DIY porn looks nothing like real porn.

Sad, but true. It's rarely as good as you hope... in my experience.

[Moma]

You may want to make sure you also have a decent body..because it might revolt you..looking at yourself fcuk a lizard if you are out of sorts (out of a shape)
So do your situps right loll..

In terms of getting them to record..it's funny but most of my lizards I meet have actually suggested recording that shyt...

one of my mates liked recording and playing that shyt..call me immature..but I haven't grown into the comfort of being able to watch a porno featuring one of my friends pounding out lizards..I saw him start to go down (he didn't say it was a porn of him) he just said..he had a recording of him playing sports that he wanted to send to the scouts and when I saw him going down on some lizard, I roared at him to turn that shyt off..

[Lumiere]

(10-03-2011 05:41 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Yes, with permission.

With permission and asking permission are two different things.

Filming without permission like setting up a hidden cam is a dick move and is totally wrong.

Asking permission is also a mistake as, if you ask, then they think about it and come over shy and coy and usually say no because they don't want to feel like a slut. Asking permission is also beta.

Best thing to do is to have the camera handy by the bed, take the camera out when she too far into the sex to want to stop and just start snapping or filming without saying anything.

It's clear what you are doing.

If she ask what I am doing I will just smile and say 'home made porn is hot' or some shit like that.

If she objects, I will stop and delete any pic or vid that I took and put the camera away.

Often they don't say anything or act a little shy but find it a turn on.

Did this last week with a Sri Lankan chick and at first she just said 'make sure you can't see my face' but after she got used to the camera she actually started playing up to it and doing stuff like staring into the lens as she was blowing me.

The key to pulling this off is that it has to happen in a way that gives her the 'it just happened in the heat of the moment' backwards rationalisation.

That way she does not feel like a slut and does not feel that she is responsible for it happening.

The percentage of women that will let you do this if you pull it off right is astonishingly high.

[Giovonny]

(10-04-2011 11:21 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  

Best thing to do is to have the camera handy by the bed, take the camera out when she too far into the sex to want to stop and just start snapping or filming without saying anything.

It's clear what you are doing.

If she ask what I am doing I will just smile and say 'home made porn in hot' or some shit like that.

If she objects, I will stop and delete any pic or vid that I took and put the camera away.

Often they don't say anything or act a little shy but find it a turn on.

The key to pulling this off is that it has to happen in a way that gives her the 'it just happened in the heat of the moment' backwards rationalisation.

That way she does not feel like a slut and does not feel that she is responsible for it happening.

The percentage of women that will let you do this if you pull it off right is astonishingly high.

This is the exact same strategy I use. I keep the camera next to my bed. I pull it out when things get hot and heavy. She is less likely to say no when she is fully turned on.

I also have a lamp on my nightstand that works perfectly. Proper lighting is very important. Make sure to keep your camera fully charged.

If she has a problem, I just put it away. Or, I "pretend" to delete it.

I am surprised how many girls have no problem with this. Slightly more then half are cool with it.

Roosh,

I sense a cultural issue. American girls have become very de-sensitized to "sex tapes". Some cultures are still fearful about making them.

Obviously, alcohol and sexy playfulness help also.

[velkrum]

It should be as easy as asking, but if asking isn't working out you should level the playing field. Offer to take a nude or compromising video of yourself that is meant for her eyes only and then ask her to return the favor. (Make sure to do any filming AFTER sex or when your going back for 3rds or 4ths)

I am personally NOT into filming and taking photos but girls willingly send me pics or ask me to take pics when I'm with them. I suspect it has a lot to do the type of girl, how comfortable you make women feel and how attractive you are (physically and facially).

[Roosh]

I remember it was as easy as pie making my first homemade porn clip with an American chick. She was into it from the start.

But these Polish girls are so adamant about absolutely no pics, that I need some new ideas. Based on their generally shy natures, I think a gradual warm-up with photography will be most effective, instead of whipping it out during the act. I'll try everything and find it what works best.

[DickBeninya]

It depends on the girl.

I have spy cameras in my bedroom and living room that I use to record most of my bangs without the girl's knowledge. These videos are under lock and key in a secure encrypted drive.

I've been with a lot of dirty girls, but only 1 was ever willing to let me film ourselves.

[BUCK]

In only a few minutes you can become a professional photographer by setting up a free site on (Wordpress .com, Deviantart .com, Flickr .com, Tumblr .com, or Modelmayhem .com). Then, tell the girls that you are a professional photographer (for your Travel/Fashion/Modeling site). If she does good with these clothed (to begin with) photos she can then advance to also being on your "Artistic Nudes" site. Here is a few examples from Deviantart .com:

1. jotap.deviantart. com (he's from Germany).

2. mic-ardant.deviantart .com (he's from France and I have personally talked with him a few times via email).

3. val-mont.deviantart .com (he is also from Germany and he also puts his photos in a magazine, and I saw one of his pics on the Tumblr site you Tweeted recently).

4. prozaque.deviantart .com (Piotr is a Nude Photographer from Warsaw Poland. His email is listed on his prozaque.deviantart .com page. In his Gallery on page 3 is alex5, and on page 4 alexxxx, compare this with your Tweet the other day - HA!! Ask him if the girls he photographs are all from Poland).

For videos I have a HD Flip (but even 20 minutes takes up a ton of Hard Drive space, so I have to save them onto an external Hard Drive, such as a Clickfree. You can try (probably after having BANGED her previously so you already know each other) to have the video camera in your hand and motion to her while filming to come over here and do a POV BJ scene, or start with a clothed or nude Bed Lap Dance (such as, you on your back on a bed, and her on top going Cowgirl and Reverse Cowgirl, then maybe from all the grinding your pants come down as you're about to...).

[Pilgrim37]

Try the direct route...as a photographer..or at least an aspiring one

Get a few business cards made and strike up convos with cute girls on the street... that should filter out the shy ones,as they know what they're contacting you about.

Preferably girls young enough and inexperienced enough to still be curious about sex and have the enthusiasm and novelty factor

See Pierre Woodman..most of the girls think they're going for a "fashion "or "glamour" casting..after a bit of persuasion it goes further...
But he deals mostly with Czechs,Hungarians and Russians.

He only pays them if they sign a release form...this guy taps a lot of top fresh ass and poontang.
People say he's a lowlife but he seems to build up a pretty good rapport with the girls.

Of course he's got the money to pay scouts to look out for the girls and fly to Buda and Prague and St.Petersburg and back to take advantage,but I reckon his website rakes it in as he's still going even with all the piracy.

As you'll see he's no oil painting but seems to succeed none the less but he's got the psychology down to penetrate the girls brain before he penetrates elsewhere!

http://www.free18.net/video-casting-sama...-7642.html

[MiXX]

(10-04-2011 12:13 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

these Polish girls are so adamant about absolutely no pics, that I need some new ideas. Based on their generally shy natures, I think a gradual warm-up with photography will be most effective, instead of whipping it out during the act. I'll try everything and find it what works best.

Same problem in Colombia. I never had issues with women just trying to fuck them, but once a profesionl looking HD video cam is present, the scene changes completely as how she interacts with me.

I have had to rethink my MixxTVOnline strategy because girls even fully clothed, in clubs, and on the public street FREAK OUT at the sight of a video camera, and some have even RAN AWAY FROM ME!! I've been here for a month, and do not have half the interviews, and raw footage I thought I would have by now

Most even freak out about regular pics!

Girls here have been burned badly by pics showing up on Facebook, or circling thru friends of the night they fucked in a motel and some guy pulled out his iphone, and vids start showing up on youporn. So, girls have just decided to not let any guy video them at all (or put up a ton of shit tests and resistance to do so)- even at nightclubs or regular cafes in public not doing anything but having a good time.

Girls have told me many times to turn off my camera or they will not talk to me.
90% of girls here see getting filmed as "evidence" nowadays.

Mixx

[Samseau]

I don't see the problem with spy cameras.

[ColSpanker]

Even randomly taking pictures of girls can get you in trouble. One night I took a random pic of a girl at a store near to the one where I worked and had her come in a complain to my manager. You can't be too careful.

[Deluge]

(10-05-2011 12:24 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

I don't see the problem with spy cameras.

Aren't they illegal? Then again, it would vary widely state by state and country by country.

[oldnemesis]

(10-05-2011 12:24 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

I don't see the problem with spy cameras.

The video quality is usually very shitty.

[Johnnyboy]

not familiar with polish chicks, but i think you've got the right idea, start with playful pictures with clothes on, you know sexy poses or however you present it and have the idea in the air without actually saying it

[michelin]

(10-04-2011 12:13 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I remember it was as easy as pie making my first homemade porn clip with an American chick. She was into it from the start.

But these Polish girls are so adamant about absolutely no pics, that I need some new ideas. Based on their generally shy natures, I think a gradual warm-up with photography will be most effective, instead of whipping it out during the act. I'll try everything and find it what works best.

I don't agree. From experience I had Polish girls, even some I barely met (withoug banging) sendin me nude or semi-nude pics. Somehow they feel it's liberating to act like that. I have no doubts that after a while in POland some of them would gladly make an amateur flip with me.

[AneroidOcean]

(10-03-2011 05:18 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

With two Iphones I take mine and rest it on the pillow and flip her on top of me and let her watch the fuck on facetime. Then I put it on record and make insta porn.

Jesus, this is brilliant.