[Not a Second Hander]

OP seems to have the sort of tunnel-vision hardheaded mentality I've seen in a lot of successful entrepreuners. Good for business, bad for all other areas of life. You'd be surprised of the type of social incompetence and lack of common sense I've seen in guys ESPECIALLY if they made their money in some sort of very specific niche.

OP please consider some of the advice posted on this thread.

At the risk of sounding like an armchair psychologist, I also sense that u seem to have some sort of racial hangups about being black. You mentioned that you are black what 5 times? With your sort of scratch along with an American passport it shouldn't matter anywhere.

Wish u luck.

[RatInTheWoods]

(10-17-2018 07:47 AM)Salesian Wrote:  

Rich people don't have the time or patience to do laundry; they get a service. They don't have time or patience for groceries; they Instacart.

Maybe those born rich or who got easy money.

Those that earned/worked still do those things, to 'keep it real' and out of the habits and frame that led to them getting rich to start with.

I don't pay for anyone to do my chores, because I got the time to do them, and it keeps me fit and in touch.

[HankMoody]

1. Game and money have very little correlation. Good looking guys will always be scoring poon. Many of my wealthy friends / clients are shacked up with very average to awful looking women. However, many of my friends who are bartenders or "sort of employed" are banging tail I can only dream about. One of my friends lives at home with his mommy and daddy to "save up to buy a house" and is dating one of the hottest girls I know. Bonus: he makes her pay money to take the train over to his parents' house. Use your money on yourself and stuff you like. You can bang women with cheap shots of whiskey and PBR.

2. I make a good amount of money, and I do all my own grocery shopping and laundry. It's not hard to bike to the market, pick out what I want, and then bike home. I don't feel like sitting around all day and waiting for Instacart; doing it myself is quicker and easier.

While I do my own laundry, I get my suits dry cleaned and dress shirts laundered, though.

[Lermontov]

OP you should get a big dog and some tattoos to begin with.

[HankMoody]

A big dog and tattoos actually works.

Then put pictures of you and the dog in the woods on Instagram. And maybe a hip Spotify playlist.

Women like the dumbest shit.

[worldwidetraveler]

(10-19-2018 08:49 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  

A big dog and tattoos actually works.

Then put pictures of you and the dog in the woods on Instagram. And maybe a hip Spotify playlist.

Women like the dumbest shit.

I had a couple tattoos put on my dog and posted it to Instagram. Will come back with the results.

[AneroidOcean]

(10-19-2018 09:17 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(10-19-2018 08:49 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  

A big dog and tattoos actually works.

Then put pictures of you and the dog in the woods on Instagram. And maybe a hip Spotify playlist.

Women like the dumbest shit.

I had a couple tattoos put on my dog and posted it to Instagram. Will come back with the results.

The original pioneer of the big dog and tattoos movement:





BONUS:
Non-Sonos Subwoofers


PRO TIP: Don't listen to guys that don't really get laid that often. I'm one of them at the moment so take it with a grain of salt.

Frankly, you should be upping your fitness just for health/longevity reasons alone. Then work on becoming a social connector throwing parties and other get togethers. You have to work on being social and learning game, just like the success you've had in business, I'm sure.

[Off The Reservation]

I think we may be dealing with that black IRT who was banned recently, cant remember his id.

On this guys very first posts he is strong on Indian girls, race, brown girls, and not being a troll.

(09-01-2018 07:28 PM)TheScientist Wrote:  

I just joined this forum to specifically ask other black guys about indian girls.

I'm a pretty good looking black guy and I attract all types of girls but indian girls seem to have no interest in me at all.

It's actually been bothering for a long time now as I have a thing for caramel colored girls so I see a lot of indian girls who I'm attracted to. There's a lot of them where i live.

Is any black guy in here regularly fucking some hot indian girls?

Does anyone else feel completely ignored by these girls?

I've heard Indian people in general are very racist towards black people so are these girls just racist?

Also, where I live most of the brown girls are indian so I'm talking about them specifically as I do not have experience with brown/arab girls from other countries.

I have heard that other brown girls like persians and morocans like black men so this does not seem to be an issue with all brown/arab girls.

Please share any info you have on this.

TDK was first to call this troll a troll.

thread-44508...pid1844623

So he goes from this crap to suddenly needing please help me I'm a baller advice?

Americans black or otherwise write $40,000 not $40 000.

[Mig Picante]

(10-17-2018 09:02 AM)jordypip23 Wrote:  

(10-17-2018 07:12 AM)Mig Picante Wrote:  

Diversify.

It sounds like you already read WallStreetPlaboys but refer to and read the following article.
http://wallstreetplayboys.com/personal-f...nd-dating/

You're young, so the money doesn't matter so much for the dating/life phase you're in now. It will in the future.

"If she can’t experience it, it does not exist."

Your link does not seem to be working.

The whole site appeared to be unavailable for a while. Hosting might not have been renewed.

It works now and I re-iterate my recommendation to read it as I think it's relevant and provides practical advice.

[Dodgy]

Well OP is most likely a troll and isn't coming back, which is a shame because there's been some good advice in this thread that will likely never be acted upon. But I've given this some thought and here's some ideas I've been contemplating because I'm very interested in making this happen in the near future.

One way is to throw small parties. I was looking at AirBnB in Los Angeles and you can get a beachfront property in Malibu or the Pacific Palisades for 1k a night. And you get mansions on the top of Hollywood Hills for 1k to 3k a night. Or you can charter a small yacht out in Newport Harbor for about 5k and have a yacht party.

I would imagine that if you and couple of good buddies got 5 girls to come to your yacht party or your Malibu beach party, then everyone's getting laid.

The problem is getting hot girls to these parties when you or your close friends don't have the social circle to get them there. That's the big question.

My second idea would be to rent warehouse space or event space and throw private events but on a larger scale.

I was thinking renting warehouse space to throw a private, invite-only EDM party using social media to invite people. I would hire security, stock a bar, charge a small cover and take a small cut from the drug sales in the bathroom. Then I could have a VIP area reserved for me, some friends and the hottest girls at the event.

Or I can rent event space and throw events that girls like. Maybe a fashion event, a wine tasting event, or a "big dog" show or a better yet, a big dog and tattoo show. You could also use Eventbrite to promote it.

I would imagine I would need to invest 8k to 12k to throw the bigger events, but at least I can try to recoup that money from door sales to break even.

But I wouldn't mind losing money because I would consider it an investment in my social status and social circle. Connections I would make from throwing these events would most likely lead to future invites or opportunities.

But the big question is how to get the hottest girls to these events...

[Stickman]

(10-20-2018 01:26 PM)Dodgy Wrote:  

Well OP is most likely a troll and isn't coming back, which is a shame because there's been some good advice in this thread that will likely never be acted upon. But I've given this some thought and here's some ideas I've been contemplating because I'm very interested in making this happen in the near future.

One way is to throw small parties. I was looking at AirBnB in Los Angeles and you can get a beachfront property in Malibu or the Pacific Palisades for 1k a night. And you get mansions on the top of Hollywood Hills for 1k to 3k a night. Or you can charter a small yacht out in Newport Harbor for about 5k and have a yacht party.

I would imagine that if you and couple of good buddies got 5 girls to come to your yacht party or your Malibu beach party, then everyone's getting laid.

The problem is getting hot girls to these parties when you or your close friends don't have the social circle to get them there. That's the big question.

My second idea would be to rent warehouse space or event space and throw private events but on a larger scale.

I was thinking renting warehouse space to throw a private, invite-only EDM party using social media to invite people. I would hire security, stock a bar, charge a small cover and take a small cut from the drug sales in the bathroom. Then I could have a VIP area reserved for me, some friends and the hottest girls at the event.

Or I can rent event space and throw events that girls like. Maybe a fashion event, a wine tasting event, or a "big dog" show or a better yet, a big dog and tattoo show. You could also use Eventbrite to promote it.

I would imagine I would need to invest 8k to 12k to throw the bigger events, but at least I can try to recoup that money from door sales to break even.

But I wouldn't mind losing money because I would consider it an investment in my social status and social circle. Connections I would make from throwing these events would most likely lead to future invites or opportunities.

But the big question is how to get the hottest girls to these events...

If you don't already have girls in your life or game and most importantly a lifestyle to keep them, you're essentially putting the cart before the horse.

To get access to these hot girls, you need to provide value first or a perception that you have value. You need to pull them into your world. You need an angle to achieve this.

The best way to show value without coming off bragging in 2018 is to have a curated IG. Most girls are on IG posting stories daily. Most guys don't because they either don't have an interesting life, no money or no friends. Use your money to create a lifestyle that are interesting and luxurious. Do it because it feels awesome to live such a lifestyle, don't do it because it will impress girls even if that's all you want but have some substance and not focus on just girls. Girl's love good food, you should love good food too (who wouldn't?) take pictures of food of fancy restaurants you've been to, hotels you've stayed at, trips you've taken.

Invest in a camera. Photography is the easiest access to IG girls. Learn how to use it well and start taking photos of girls. Once you have enough of a portfolio. Start promoting your IG. You have money right? buy ads to your IG. Try to get a few hundred thousand IG followers. Once you reach over 100k followers, you're now an influencer. You can now contact most girls and get a reply since you're perceived as important. Girls now want a piece of your followers pie and be a part of your awesome life.

Now you have an army of IG models to invite to your parties but don't bite the hand that feeds you. Treat your models with care. If words gets out that you're sleazy, you're done. Use your models to gain access to her hot friends, other men with access to more girls, random girls at parties will see you with hot girls will come to you. Girls will hit you up to shoot with you. Now you have this vortex of girls and guys with girls.

You don't want to use AirBNB to throw parties. If you get too many complaints, you will get banned. You better off using Hotels instead. You can rent a suite with a living room to near the club to pre-party and get bottle service at that club and bring the girls back for after party.

[jordypip23]

(10-20-2018 01:26 PM)Dodgy Wrote:  

Well OP is most likely a troll and isn't coming back, which is a shame because there's been some good advice in this thread that will likely never be acted upon. But I've given this some thought and here's some ideas I've been contemplating because I'm very interested in making this happen in the near future.

One way is to throw small parties. I was looking at AirBnB in Los Angeles and you can get a beachfront property in Malibu or the Pacific Palisades for 1k a night. And you get mansions on the top of Hollywood Hills for 1k to 3k a night. Or you can charter a small yacht out in Newport Harbor for about 5k and have a yacht party.

I would imagine that if you and couple of good buddies got 5 girls to come to your yacht party or your Malibu beach party, then everyone's getting laid.

The problem is getting hot girls to these parties when you or your close friends don't have the social circle to get them there. That's the big question.

My second idea would be to rent warehouse space or event space and throw private events but on a larger scale.

I was thinking renting warehouse space to throw a private, invite-only EDM party using social media to invite people. I would hire security, stock a bar, charge a small cover and take a small cut from the drug sales in the bathroom. Then I could have a VIP area reserved for me, some friends and the hottest girls at the event.

Or I can rent event space and throw events that girls like. Maybe a fashion event, a wine tasting event, or a "big dog" show or a better yet, a big dog and tattoo show. You could also use Eventbrite to promote it.

I would imagine I would need to invest 8k to 12k to throw the bigger events, but at least I can try to recoup that money from door sales to break even.

But I wouldn't mind losing money because I would consider it an investment in my social status and social circle. Connections I would make from throwing these events would most likely lead to future invites or opportunities.

But the big question is how to get the hottest girls to these events...

Yes sir. OP was likely a troll. But I agree that IF a guy has that type of income coming in, they have plenty of cushion to take some chances with their money on the types of things that you mentioned in your post. For a so-called high income dude, guy sounds way too cheap & stingy. Can't even buy a drink for a chick or a broski to lubricate the social wheels of a 1-on-1 or group situation so I don't know if he has the balls to try the things you mentioned. No risk, no reward.

[jordypip23]

(10-20-2018 02:10 PM)Stickman Wrote:  

(10-20-2018 01:26 PM)Dodgy Wrote:  

Well OP is most likely a troll and isn't coming back, which is a shame because there's been some good advice in this thread that will likely never be acted upon. But I've given this some thought and here's some ideas I've been contemplating because I'm very interested in making this happen in the near future.

One way is to throw small parties. I was looking at AirBnB in Los Angeles and you can get a beachfront property in Malibu or the Pacific Palisades for 1k a night. And you get mansions on the top of Hollywood Hills for 1k to 3k a night. Or you can charter a small yacht out in Newport Harbor for about 5k and have a yacht party.

I would imagine that if you and couple of good buddies got 5 girls to come to your yacht party or your Malibu beach party, then everyone's getting laid.

The problem is getting hot girls to these parties when you or your close friends don't have the social circle to get them there. That's the big question.

My second idea would be to rent warehouse space or event space and throw private events but on a larger scale.

I was thinking renting warehouse space to throw a private, invite-only EDM party using social media to invite people. I would hire security, stock a bar, charge a small cover and take a small cut from the drug sales in the bathroom. Then I could have a VIP area reserved for me, some friends and the hottest girls at the event.

Or I can rent event space and throw events that girls like. Maybe a fashion event, a wine tasting event, or a "big dog" show or a better yet, a big dog and tattoo show. You could also use Eventbrite to promote it.

I would imagine I would need to invest 8k to 12k to throw the bigger events, but at least I can try to recoup that money from door sales to break even.

But I wouldn't mind losing money because I would consider it an investment in my social status and social circle. Connections I would make from throwing these events would most likely lead to future invites or opportunities.

But the big question is how to get the hottest girls to these events...

If you don't already have girls in your life or game and most importantly a lifestyle to keep them, you're essentially putting the cart before the horse.

To get access to these hot girls, you need to provide value first or a perception that you have value. You need to pull them into your world. You need an angle to achieve this.

The best way to show value without coming off bragging in 2018 is to have a curated IG. Most girls are on IG posting stories daily. Most guys don't because they either don't have an interesting life, no money or no friends. Use your money to create a lifestyle that are interesting and luxurious. Do it because it feels awesome to live such a lifestyle, don't do it because it will impress girls even if that's all you want but have some substance and not focus on just girls. Girl's love good food, you should love good food too (who wouldn't?) take pictures of food of fancy restaurants you've been to, hotels you've stayed at, trips you've taken.

Invest in a camera. Photography is the easiest access to IG girls. Learn how to use it well and start taking photos of girls. Once you have enough of a portfolio. Start promoting your IG. You have money right? buy ads to your IG. Try to get a few hundred thousand IG followers. Once you reach over 100k followers, you're now an influencer. You can now contact most girls and get a reply since you're perceived as important. Girls now want a piece of your followers pie and be a part of your awesome life.

Now you have an army of IG models to invite to your parties but don't bite the hand that feeds you. Treat your models with care. If words gets out that you're sleazy, you're done. Use your models to gain access to her hot friends, other men with access to more girls, random girls at parties will see you with hot girls will come to you. Girls will hit you up to shoot with you. Now you have this vortex of girls and guys with girls.

You don't want to use AirBNB to throw parties. If you get too many complaints, you will get banned. You better off using Hotels instead. You can rent a suite with a living room to near the club to pre-party and get bottle service at that club and bring the girls back for after party.

Great advice. Seems like Instagram is the quintessential marketing tool you need in 2018 to quickly show value to a 20 something chick. I am extremely behind (virtually non-existent) in my Instagram game partly because I am a mid-30's somewhat recently divorced dude. Guess there is no better time to try & figure this shit out than right now.

[TheScientist]

quick update.

I spent just over $600 over the past 3 nights to rent an air b and b within walking distance of the nightlife.

Unfortunately, I did not fuck any girls these 3 nights.

I'm confident I would have taken someone home tonight but I ended up almost getting into a fight which ruined my mood and kind of fucked everything up.

It felt good to be so close to the action again; its been years since I lived in the busy nightlife area and I forgot what thats like.

I'm going to continue to get air b and bs on nights where I go out.

After the incident tonight I'm also planning to hire bodyguards/security when I go out.

I just dont want to deal with bull shiet like tonight going forward.

If anyone has any experience with security/bodyguard services please let me know what I can expect as far as rates for this.

Also, to the guys who have been leaving all the messages about me lying that I make this income; i want to thank you guys for the motivation.

The truth is I'm actually severely underachieving right now with my current income

I've made a lot more then 40k in one month before but not consistently

If I really grinded and got focused i'm very confident i can more then 10X my current income in less then 1 year.

You guys have given me the motivation to get to this level just so I can see how you guys react.

It is currently 7:10 AM EST on 10-21-2018 as I write this message, mark my words all of you who left those messages accusing me of lying, I will update this thread in less then a year and I'll be making half a mil a month.

Thanks again for the motivation.

[jordypip23]

(10-21-2018 06:12 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  

quick update.

I spent just over $600 over the past 3 nights to rent an air b and b within walking distance of the nightlife.

Unfortunately, I did not fuck any girls these 3 nights.

I'm confident I would have taken someone home tonight but I ended up almost getting into a fight which ruined my mood and kind of fucked everything up.

It felt good to be so close to the action again; its been years since I lived in the busy nightlife area and I forgot what thats like.

I'm going to continue to get air b and bs on nights where I go out.

After the incident tonight I'm also planning to hire bodyguards/security when I go out.

I just dont want to deal with bull shiet like tonight going forward.

If anyone has any experience with security/bodyguard services please let me know what I can expect as far as rates for this.

Also, to the guys who have been leaving all the messages about me lying that I make this income; i want to thank you guys for the motivation.

The truth is I'm actually severely underachieving right now with my current income

I've made a lot more then 40k in one month before but not consistently

If I really grinded and got focused i'm very confident i can more then 10X my current income in less then 1 year.

You guys have given me the motivation to get to this level just so I can see how you guys react.

It is currently 7:10 AM EST on 10-21-2018 as I write this message, mark my words all of you who left those messages accusing me of lying, I will update this thread in less then a year and I'll be making half a mil a month.

Thanks again for the motivation.

Well good man. We obviously have no way of verifying anything you're saying but.....if what you're saying is true & you are having momentum in your business hustles, all the power to you. I do wish you all the best in your endeavors.

And if you don't mind me asking, what do you think caused this other individual to scuffle with you?

[Cattle Rustler]

(10-21-2018 03:34 AM)jordypip23 Wrote:  

Great advice. Seems like Instagram is the quintessential marketing tool you need in 2018 to quickly show value to a 20 something chick. I am extremely behind (virtually non-existent) in my Instagram game partly because I am a mid-30's somewhat recently divorced dude. Guess there is no better time to try & figure this shit out than right now.

Yeah, as much as I dislike instagram....I've been messaging hoes on IG and the first thing they do is request to follow me (I turned it private to force some interaction such as requesting me). Since I dislike "taking pics for the moment" of my food/trips/etc....it's mostly empty so hoes don't reply as much. Gonna step it up and push myself out of the boundary zone by taking more pics and sharing it.

@OP: Why do you feel the need to hire muscle? We need to "analyze" what put you in this situation in the first place. Never been in a situation where I needed to fight someone, nor do most people. Did you bump into someone and spilled their drink? Did they take something the wrong way? Diffusing the situation is your best bet. Where were you in the first place?

If you're traveling you don't want to get into a fight in an unknown land then get your ass murked because every Thai in the street decided to beat your ass or end up stabbed like that black guy in greece who made a scene about being denied entry at the club......or if you're in america you don't want to get shot by some niggaz keeping it real or some honky tonk thinking it's TheScientist season.

A bodyguard is not going to protect you once it's 2am you leave the club and some niggaz pull up beside you and get you. This shit happens more often that not.

[Kish]

(10-21-2018 06:12 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  

Thanks again for the motivation.

[Stickman]

(10-21-2018 06:12 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  

quick update.

I spent just over $600 over the past 3 nights to rent an air b and b within walking distance of the nightlife.

Unfortunately, I did not fuck any girls these 3 nights.

I'm confident I would have taken someone home tonight but I ended up almost getting into a fight which ruined my mood and kind of fucked everything up.

It felt good to be so close to the action again; its been years since I lived in the busy nightlife area and I forgot what thats like.

I'm going to continue to get air b and bs on nights where I go out.

After the incident tonight I'm also planning to hire bodyguards/security when I go out.

I just dont want to deal with bull shiet like tonight going forward.

If anyone has any experience with security/bodyguard services please let me know what I can expect as far as rates for this.

Also, to the guys who have been leaving all the messages about me lying that I make this income; i want to thank you guys for the motivation.

The truth is I'm actually severely underachieving right now with my current income

I've made a lot more then 40k in one month before but not consistently

If I really grinded and got focused i'm very confident i can more then 10X my current income in less then 1 year.

You guys have given me the motivation to get to this level just so I can see how you guys react.

It is currently 7:10 AM EST on 10-21-2018 as I write this message, mark my words all of you who left those messages accusing me of lying, I will update this thread in less then a year and I'll be making half a mil a month.

Thanks again for the motivation.

A lot of people gave you great advice and this is what you came away with? I have a feeling you weren't really looking for advice.

You're making 30k pre-tax. Not a celebrity. Do you think you will get into fights every time you go out? a bodyguard would be useless most of the time. If you keep getting into fights, its not other people. Its you.

Check back later. I will bet my left balls that you will not make half a million a month if what some random guys on the internet saying some mean things is what will motivate you.

[Dodgy]

(10-20-2018 02:10 PM)Stickman Wrote:  

If you don't already have girls in your life or game and most importantly a lifestyle to keep them, you're essentially putting the cart before the horse.

To get access to these hot girls, you need to provide value first or a perception that you have value. You need to pull them into your world. You need an angle to achieve this.

The best way to show value without coming off bragging in 2018 is to have a curated IG. Most girls are on IG posting stories daily. Most guys don't because they either don't have an interesting life, no money or no friends. Use your money to create a lifestyle that are interesting and luxurious. Do it because it feels awesome to live such a lifestyle, don't do it because it will impress girls even if that's all you want but have some substance and not focus on just girls. Girl's love good food, you should love good food too (who wouldn't?) take pictures of food of fancy restaurants you've been to, hotels you've stayed at, trips you've taken.

Invest in a camera. Photography is the easiest access to IG girls. Learn how to use it well and start taking photos of girls. Once you have enough of a portfolio. Start promoting your IG. You have money right? buy ads to your IG. Try to get a few hundred thousand IG followers. Once you reach over 100k followers, you're now an influencer. You can now contact most girls and get a reply since you're perceived as important. Girls now want a piece of your followers pie and be a part of your awesome life.

Now you have an army of IG models to invite to your parties but don't bite the hand that feeds you. Treat your models with care. If words gets out that you're sleazy, you're done. Use your models to gain access to her hot friends, other men with access to more girls, random girls at parties will see you with hot girls will come to you. Girls will hit you up to shoot with you. Now you have this vortex of girls and guys with girls.

You don't want to use AirBNB to throw parties. If you get too many complaints, you will get banned. You better off using Hotels instead. You can rent a suite with a living room to near the club to pre-party and get bottle service at that club and bring the girls back for after party.

This is great, thanks. So just thinking out loud here arguably the best way to leverage money for more women is to invest in a curated IG.

And that might be a good business idea to offer IG consulting services, i.e., building and curating attractive IG pages specifically designed to attract women for a generous fee. I would imagine a lot of working professional guys would pay for that.

And so let me get this straight: OP won't buy a girl a drink but will pay for private security guards to go out with him to bars?

[Lance Blastoff]

I'm a little late to the party but I'll make a couple of observations, with the assumption that OP isn't a troll.

I'm also assuming that OP is generally looking for are women who are very concerned with their appearance and attractiveness. The kind of girls that dress really well, have (or could have) 100k followers on IG, BMI below 20, looks good in a bikini with visible abs, etc.

$40k a month, working more than 30 hours a week, isn't really enough to buy your way into superstar status in any major city and it's not going to get you the lifestyle that will <i>easily<I> get you laid with these types women. After taxes, depending on where you live, it comes out to around $24k. A panty dropping place (over 1700 sq feet, impressive view, expensive appliances and bathroom fixtures) will cost you around $6-10k a month alone - wherever you live. Add a $100k sports car and really nice clothes into the mix and you'll find it doesn't go THAT far. In order to get passive sexual income from women of that calibre, you must be VERY high income - more than $1.5 million pretax passive. (Multiple residences, exclusively first class or net jets travel, multiple $100k+ vehicles.) That level of wealth will get women of that calibre to throw themselves at you. Otherwise, you're looking at working for it.)

Also, the fact that your business is dependent "on Amazon" means that it's possible that the revenue could dry up or be shut down entirely and quickly (ask any moderately-controversial YouTuber). This means that you must save a significant percentage of your income, more than a surgeon, banker or other high-income profession. Unless the income is diversified and passive, you're not really "independently wealthy" (think a bunch of different real estate properties, businesses with their own management, or a municipal bond portfolio).

Very attractive women under the age of 25 aren't as much interested in money as they are status, experiences and stuff. Their focus and perspective is short term and about immediate gratification. The advantage of wealth is that you have the income to have these experiences, and bring someone along with you. If you have the means, the easiest way to get laid would be to ask the attractive, single girl in question whether she'd like to go to Santorini (or Ibiza, or Bora Bora) with you. Assuming that you're not hideous, and she's not currently in love with someone else, she will go with you and you two will have at least decent sex.

It's only once they hit around 25-26 that the smart ones start to freak out about securing long term resources and become more deliberate and scheming. (This happens MUCH earlier in the developing world, obviously.)

[Cattle Rustler]

For some reason I want to meet up Stickman, sounds like the dude knows how to have a good time and has his shit together.

Depends where OP is located. He can pull it off with his income in ATL/HTX...even Miami. But he's out of the loop in NYC/LA. Why? He has no social plugs. ATL/HTX/MIA have somewhat cheap housing so you can get a nice spacious place with a view for 3K. A nice Jaguar F-Type goes for like 40K unless you want the best crackle from the R which is 60K. Or you can go for a Viper.....if you want to be really cheap you can buy a Maseratti as they're the poor man's exotic. You can only live in one home and drive one car at time.

For threads, not many bitches will notice just get some LV or Ferragamo loafers or jeans/shirt with a nice watch like Sprezzzurian.

Good luck trying to compete with Hedge Fund guys in NYC, Artists in LA, and Boat owners in MIA tho. I was going to write more shit but feeling lazy.\n
Edit: OP were exactly are you on the spectrum? I'm guessing you can highly function but socially disconnected. I think this might help us understand some of your mishaps like the fighting and stuff.

[pancakemouse]

(10-21-2018 06:12 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  

After the incident tonight I'm also planning to hire bodyguards/security when I go out.

I just dont want to deal with bull shiet like tonight going forward.

If anyone has any experience with security/bodyguard services please let me know what I can expect as far as rates for this.

The fact that you're even considering this means you're already on the wrong track.

[RDF]

His income is not quite enough for "international jetset playboy" status where women are begging for your attention. For that, you're talking millions not just in income, but also in wealth - multiple homes, private jets, etc. That's a long way away.

However, >$20k net/mth is definitely enough to get your foot into the door in the high-end social circles in basically any city, including Los Angeles and NYC. You aren't a "big baller", but you can step onto the court. At that point, it just depends whether you have skills and the fortitude to play the game right.

OP, in order to be successful at this, you will have to reevaluate your entire mindset.

As a lone-wolf club PUA, your entire approach and though process is focused on the PRESENT. If I say this and do that, will this girl go home and fuck me tonight. Not tomorrow, not next week. Tonight. Your entire thought process sounds very reactionary and short-term focused - "I got into a fight, so I will now get a bodyguard", "I got a crib close to the action for a few days and didn't get laid, so it probably isn't worth it", etc.

When you build a social circle and try to make connections with people, you need to think about it as a long-term investment. You need to take each incremental step as a means of building a foundation that will pay out in the LONG-TERM. The goal is to draw people into a circle that you are building, or more likely, to use it as a way into an existing circle.

You need to be comfortable to use some of your $$ as a TOOL to get your way into the door. This means going to spots with expensive as fuck drinks, buying some drinks for a pregame or postgame at your place (even if you don't get laid that night), or even buying a bottle at a promoter table to get tight with a promoter/host.

Here's a personal story:

A few years back, I went out with a buddy of mine, his "model" ex-girl who he was still cool with and was hot as hell, and one of her friends. We went to a club where she knew a promoter and got us inside. While at the promoter table (a free table where people who know the promoter can hang out), the liquor ran low, and my buddy and I drunkenly decided to split a bottle for the table to keep the party going. Here's the short-term and long-term consequences of this action.

Short-term:
-- It was expensive as fuck, esp at the time since I was just out of college. Like $350 each for a fifth of Goose. And each of us only got like 2 shots cause we split the bottle with the others at the table. For that price I could've bought a round-trip ticket to Hawaii.

-- Both girls got sloppy wasted, so neither of us got laid that night. We didn't fuck any other girls at the table either. I think I got a number from one that went nowhere. So zero pussy return.

Long-term:
-- The next day, my friends "model" girl hit us up telling us how grateful they were for taking them out, and invited us the following night to go on a Hummer limo with them, 10 of her model friends (all of whom were 8s and up), and 2 gay guys. We spent the night partying at a few clubs and at a mansion afterparty in Hollywood. I made out with two of the girls at the same time in the limo, and though I failed to get a threesome, I pulled one of the girls home. To this day one of the hottest girls I've ever pulled, and one of the most memorable nights of my life. And I didn't spend a penny.

-- I got her promoter's contact into, he thanked me for buying the bottle and making him look good, and invited me to that club each weekend for the next 3 months. Occasional $20 cover (basically a handshake) and free drinks at his table the whole night to be at one of the most exclusive clubs in the city with BAD bitches

In short, if I look at the short-term outcomes, spending $350 on that bottle was an complete waste of money. But if I look at the long-term outcomes, it was worth every penny and then some. I'd make that investment any day. Wouldn't you?

[Off The Reservation]

(10-21-2018 06:12 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  

quick update.

I spent just over $600 over the past 3 nights to rent an air b and b within walking distance of the nightlife.

Unfortunately, I did not fuck any girls these 3 nights.

I'm confident I would have taken someone home tonight but I ended up almost getting into a fight which ruined my mood and kind of fucked everything up.

It felt good to be so close to the action again; its been years since I lived in the busy nightlife area and I forgot what thats like.

I'm going to continue to get air b and bs on nights where I go out.

After the incident tonight I'm also planning to hire bodyguards/security when I go out.

I just dont want to deal with bull shiet like tonight going forward.

If anyone has any experience with security/bodyguard services please let me know what I can expect as far as rates for this.

Also, to the guys who have been leaving all the messages about me lying that I make this income; i want to thank you guys for the motivation.

The truth is I'm actually severely underachieving right now with my current income

I've made a lot more then 40k in one month before but not consistently

If I really grinded and got focused i'm very confident i can more then 10X my current income in less then 1 year.

You guys have given me the motivation to get to this level just so I can see how you guys react.

It is currently 7:10 AM EST on 10-21-2018 as I write this message, mark my words all of you who left those messages accusing me of lying, I will update this thread in less then a year and I'll be making half a mil a month.

Thanks again for the motivation.

(06-25-2018 09:28 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

RIP Pargan, your plethora of do black guys do well question in every single damn thread will be missed.



-CD

(09-23-2018 01:22 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  

I'm curious what other black guys are into as far as what ethnicity of women you prefer.

#1 for me is latinas. Even in my early teens I always loved latinas. All my favorite pornstars when i was age 12-13 where latinas (lela star, gina lynn, jenaveve jolie). The crazy thing is there are barely any latinas where i grew up and still i somehow ended up gravitating towards them in my porn choices.
I love latinas, i love their accents, personalities, bodies.,etc.... The one negative i will mention though is that latinas seem to have the worst hygiene. All my terrible experiences of weird smells and body odors during sex have pretty much all been with latinas. Anyone else noticed this hygiene problem with latinas?

#2 is arab/brown girls. I discovered my strong attraction to these girls after an amazing experience with a persian girl in 2017. Before that brown girls where never even on my radar. But after the persian they have become a bit of a mini obsession for me the past year or so. My sexual chemistry with the persian is to this day the strongest sexual chemistry I've ever felt with a chick. Unfortunately, most of the brown girls in my area are indian girls and they seem to want nothing to do with me. I'm hoping over the next year I can come up with a strategy to fuck more of these girls as I'm really attracted to them right now.

#3 is white girls. first, let me say white girls are the most overrated girls by far. They age terribly with most of them completely falling apart by age 28 and most of them have a significant drop in hotness after age 23 or so. The hottest white girls are age 18-23 by far so those are the white girls i mainly target. It should also be noted that white girls especially blondes in my experience are tied with asian girls as the easiest girls to fuck. If i had 24 hours to get laid or I would be killed, i would only approach blonde white girls and asian girls.

#4 is black girls. I have not much to say here. there are not a lot of black girls where i live and the few i've encountered seem to hate me. Most of the random women who are just super bitchy and rude to me for no reason are almost always black women age 30+. I have black women ranked this low not because i hate my own race but because black women seem to hate me. I did fuck one half black girl once but thats literally my only sexual experience with a black woman. I've never even kissed a black girl besides this chick.

#5: asian girls are by far the least attractive to me. when i say asian i mean chinese, korean,etc.. in my entire life i can only remember 2 asian girls who where"instant boner" hot. I just dont find them attractive at all. they have no ass or curves and i just hate their bodies. some have beautiful faces but to me a no ass/curves body is just a massive negative. The weird thing is a lot of these girls like me. I attract a lot of asian girls for some reason. I've only fucked one but it was so horrible i could not even finish after fucking her for like 2 hours. Honestly, at this point asian girls are pretty much invisible to me, they might as well be men; i dont even look at them.

(06-25-2018 09:28 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

RIP Pargan, your plethora of do black guys do well question in every single damn thread will be missed.



-CD

(05-13-2018 06:31 PM)pargan Wrote:  

Anyone here bin in Surrey? How do you think the Indian girls compare their to other places look wise an in other areas?
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Do you feel like there is push back against indian girsl dating white guys because they feel white guys are taking their women? Or is there also push back against black guys, arab guys and other groups to? What non indian group of guys do you think has the best chance with Indian girls in a place like Surrey?

(06-25-2018 09:28 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

RIP Pargan, your plethora of do black guys do well question in every single damn thread will be missed.



-CD

(09-17-2018 09:11 PM)TheScientist Wrote:  

I have a strong visceral "instant boner" attraction to a lot of Indian girls but its the one demographic that just does not seem to like me.

I think it might be my location as I've heard in London for example indian girls love black men.

(06-25-2018 09:28 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

RIP Pargan, your plethora of do black guys do well question in every single damn thread will be missed.



-CD

(09-03-2018 05:21 PM)TheScientist Wrote:  

Indian girls are the only girls I never see with black guys; they are the exception so far in my experience.

(06-25-2018 09:28 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

RIP Pargan, your plethora of do black guys do well question in every single damn thread will be missed.



-CD

(09-07-2018 09:45 PM)darlten Wrote:  

And for those of you that were asking about Indian and Pakistani girls, in London at least every single brown girl I swiped yes on matched with me on tinder. I find they are really into hip hop and want to see that culture and be with a black guy and the only thing that is stopping them is their family, but once they are away from their families eyes and behind closed doors they will show what they really want.

(06-25-2018 09:28 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

RIP Pargan, your plethora of do black guys do well question in every single damn thread will be missed.



-CD

(08-17-2018 08:45 AM)dodo8 Wrote:  

I think I good skill to learn would be how to get with these girls like Indians, Arabs, other muslims etc. that are from more strict cultures and families. A lot of these girls are most likely very interested in black guys but they just don't peruse it because of their culture and family, knowing how to get past this would be something good to know. Does anyone have experience with this?

(06-25-2018 09:28 PM)coverdoc Wrote:  

RIP Pargan, your plethora of do black guys do well question in every single damn thread will be missed.



-CD

[TheScientist]

(10-16-2018 10:35 AM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

One more option that I've seen executed with tremendous results with considerably less assets than the OP - It may not be his style but it's so damn good I think it should be included for completeness and a resource for others. The guy was in a college town, he just invested in a very large triple decker house, and instead of renting out the floors individually, he did it as individual rooms, college dorm style.

Why did it end up feeling (and looking) like college a college dorm instead of a rooming house? The right advertising and aggressive screening. It was Boston, and the whole city feels like a college town sometimes, and it was next to a large commuter college which was transitioning to a more modern style with the college boom (they had no dorms of their own when he started this up). He advertised as "The Dorms for College X" sometimes, especially to foreign students desperately looking for such a set up. He also set up broader advertising to make sure he wouldn't miss a gem going to Harvard either.

College Dorm vibe might not be completely accurate, it was halfway to being a sorority house because he only rented to smokeshow women ("Less aggravation" he claimed, fed into female ego even if obviously untrue). With a big international student population in the city, and his screening ability it skewed heavily foreign as well, girls who had just moved to the States and literally didn't know anyone but him. Even if he had a problem case, college students are so transient they would be gone soon anyway, and he just wouldn't rent to her again after Summer Break.

A couple of other key points - the place had great location public transit wise, you could get anywhere you needed to, he made it look AWESOME, and when your home is awesome, it makes you look awesome. He was running a mini Hugh Hefner game game on a shoe string budget....and it WORKED. The girls would come to him to adjudicate minor disputes between them and they all followed his leadership without question (these were personal qualities, he was ex-military, and you would have to have genuine leadership ability to make this work, it's not just going to happen to you if you're a schmuck).

Another key point - he was charging below market for a beautiful house, so he had his pick of whoever he wanted, but he MADE MONEY off of this, he wasn't losing money. I actually think he made MORE money than the guys using more conventional business models. If he wasn't aggressively screening for highly educated women from the higher stratas of their societies all over the world, there is no way he would have been able to get away with running what was essentially an illegal rooming house for as long as he wanted. Educated, high class people don't end up with police in their business very often. If the police did end up in the area, they're too busy flirting with the hotties to try and mess with their living conditions. So instead of collecting 2 rents and being separated from the hotties, he got to collect rent from every room in the building, and the girls were constantly running around in college tucked-boob-towel style (or damn near negligees) trying to get his attention.

I mean, being next to the party zone where all the young hotties are is great logistics, but living IN the house the hotties pre-party in, and head to for their after hours activities is even better.

wow.

I cannot thank you enough for this.

This has given me so many new ideas.

However, I think i need significantly more money then I make now to do something like this.

Unless I want to get into debt I dont think someone at my level can quite pull this off.

what do you think?