[BlastbeatCasanova]

No promo, I was curious if anyone on the forum will be attending. It's this week:

https://the21convention.org/

If you haven't heard about it, it's touted as a pretty big IRL red pill event. I decided to attend because it seems interesting and ended up being geographically convenient for me to go. I'm mostly stoked to see Rollo Tomassi, Blackdragon, and Donovan Sharpe. If you're going and want to link up and shoot the shit hit me with a PM

[Rorogue]

I'm not convinced that a lot of those speakers actually get laid. I used to listen to the 'red man group' livestreams, but then turned off. Most of them sounded like guys talking theory who don't have a lot of practical experience.

It seems Donovan is the real deal. Goldmund as well. Rest of them are basically self help guys

Not saying it can't be helpful to some guys- it was helpful to me when I was at a certain stage.

[Disco_Volante]

Do you work for the fbi or something? Two low post members wanting pms and a list of attendance go fuck yourself. If I wasn't drunk I'd think of a better insult someone else pick up the slack.

[Repo]

$2500 fuck outta here

[Truth Tiger]

Don't dox yourself, ever.

[torridon747]

Why the fuck would I pay 2.5 Gs for a shitshow like that. Clearly they're just stacking dough off a bunch of rich-ish beta males that can't put life together on their own.

I'd get better value taking that same 2.5gs and investing it into business, self improvement, investments, or even a nicer car.

Do any of these people actually have the lifestyle they're selling or make money from the know-how they claim to have (other than off beta schlubs paying for 2.5k tickets)

[Geomann180]

Hahahaha

No.

Let me guess. Christian McQueen set the pricing?
G

[Rorogue]

Disco_Volante Wrote:

Do you work for the fbi or something? Two low post members wanting pms and a list of attendance go fuck yourself. If I wasn't drunk I'd think of a better insult someone else pick up the slack.

Learn to read posts properly before you insult someone.

I am not going and never asked for a PM to meet. A bit redundant when I am in Australia.

I just commented on the quality of speakers.

Great work from a 'high post' member, not reading a guy's post properly, then telling him to 'fuck off'

[puckerman]

Yes, I am going. I am looking forward to it.

That being said, I do agree about the price tag. I bought my ticket early, when it was only $995.

And while I can't reveal the location of the hotel, I will say that the price tag is a ridiculous and idiotic $169 per night. Yes, that's $169 per night for one room. That is the most outrageous hotel price I've heard, and I've been to lots of events at overpriced hotels. I am staying with an AirBNB.

[budoslavic]

Me: Checks out the 21Convention.com site. Browse list of speakers. Price tag: $2500. Scoffs...

[N°6]

It would be interesting to see how much the convention will cost in Poland. I’d be tempted to attend to meet new acquaintances.

[Green-On-GO]

Security costs money I guess..Especially since the 21 convention went red pill.Pissing off all the old blue and purple pill PUA coaches it use to have..I can't see it ever being held in Australia again because its red pill and pick up.

If dudes lives are saved by going then it's ok.

I think they wanted Roosh there this year.

I used McQueens location tips for Vegas.

In Oz we pay double what a Euro or Yank pays to see a concert so the price doesn't look bad to me.Considering the earlier you bought the cheaper it was ,so the majority is not paying $2500..

The redman group is yank game based .Sharpe just shouts over everyone and they had special on cold approach..Meaning most of them are using apps.Which aren't that great for older dudes.I got tired listening to everyone trying to out alpha each other...I don't rate Goldmunds taste but he has carved out a niche game..I'm waiting for the DSLR carrying hat wearing raiders of the lost poon to hit my city.

I've introduced a couple of dudes my age to red pill using Rich Cooper's Entrepreneur in cars...red pill will be a called a hate group soon.

[BlastbeatCasanova]

(10-09-2018 10:21 PM)Repo Wrote:  

$2500 fuck outta here

I agree, I bought my ticket forever ago when it was less than $1000.

(10-09-2018 10:21 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

Do you work for the fbi or something? Two low post members wanting pms and a list of attendance go fuck yourself. If I wasn't drunk I'd think of a better insult someone else pick up the slack.

My sincere apologies that I haven't developed enough clout and legitimacy to be taken seriously yet.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

There are many wealthy older Red Pill newbies going who pay 2,5k per month on alimony. Getting Red Pilled to them is a valuable investment - less for guys like us. We might go if we like some speakers like Rollo.

[puckerman]

It has been good so far. I am glad I stayed off site, too.

[Thot Leader]

(10-09-2018 10:13 PM)Rorogue Wrote:  

It seems Donovan is the real deal. Goldmund as well. Rest of them are basically self help guys

Mixed feelings on that guy. He keeps posting photos of his gf's ass to his Instagram. It is a nice ass and I believe it really belongs to his gf, but why does he feel the need to keep uploading photos of her ass for all the world to see? He clearly has something to prove, which seems unhealthy for a dude of 40ish.

[Vladimir Poontang]

Matt Forney says don't go. I trust Matt Forney. Also I agree that it's not worth it.

[Kona]

(10-09-2018 11:39 PM)puckerman Wrote:  

And while I can't reveal the location of the hotel, I will say that the price tag is a ridiculous and idiotic $169 per night. Yes, that's $169 per night for one room. That is the most outrageous hotel price I've heard, and I've been to lots of events at overpriced hotels. I am staying with an AirBNB.

Debguiled is letting me crash on the floor in his room. Maybe there's space for a third?

Sometimes cozy is fun. LMK.

Aloha!

[Rorogue]

Thot leader Wrote:

Mixed feelings on that guy. He keeps posting photos of his gf's ass to his Instagram. It is a nice ass and I believe it really belongs to his gf, but why does he feel the need to keep uploading photos of her ass for all the world to see? He clearly has something to prove, which seems unhealthy for a dude of 40ish.

I think he's got an eccentric personality.
I also think having a dominant/submissive relationship with an attractive (at least 6/10) woman today in the western world, (where she doesn't fuck other guys), is a pretty good achievement. Most men can't get that today. I'd say only 5-10% of men are capable of that.

[SendThotsAndPrayers]

The Question is, will you get any value out of those 2,5k spent on 21 Convention? Will there be new and gamebreaking stuff that are not already written in their books, blogs etc?

If not, isn't basically "Red Pill Disney" where you'll hear the same shit they've written in their articles or books for like 2 days, only that this time it has somewhat of a Church-like feel to it? The, "we're part of something greater feel" that a lot of people succumb too (doesn't have to be religion).

Why not spend money out of those 2,5k on their books, and invest the rest into something that will bring more Return on Investment?

[BlastbeatCasanova]

For the amount of money I've spent (~$1200 for ticket, gas, food, alcohol, not paying for a place to stay), I've extracted more than that in terms of value gleaned from the speakers, but also meeting and making a bunch of friends and contacts. I've had a great time and would say it's been totally worth it (for me personally). I didn''t realize there was a few forum members here, we may have shot the shit and not even known it

[Thot Leader]

(10-13-2018 08:59 PM)Rorogue Wrote:  

Thot leader Wrote:

Mixed feelings on that guy. He keeps posting photos of his gf's ass to his Instagram. It is a nice ass and I believe it really belongs to his gf, but why does he feel the need to keep uploading photos of her ass for all the world to see? He clearly has something to prove, which seems unhealthy for a dude of 40ish.

I think he's got an eccentric personality.
I also think having a dominant/submissive relationship with an attractive (at least 6/10) woman today in the western world, (where she doesn't fuck other guys), is a pretty good achievement. Most men can't get that today. I'd say only 5-10% of men are capable of that.

Not hating on his achievements at all. I say, good for him. It's just the constant showing off via borderline-pornographic images of his LTR. Iunno, doesn't seem like an entirely redpilled thing for a middle aged man to do.

[Buck Wild]

(10-13-2018 07:39 PM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  

Matt Forney says don't go. I trust Matt Forney. Also I agree that it's not worth it.

Link?

[debeguiled]

(10-13-2018 08:10 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(10-09-2018 11:39 PM)puckerman Wrote:  

And while I can't reveal the location of the hotel, I will say that the price tag is a ridiculous and idiotic $169 per night. Yes, that's $169 per night for one room. That is the most outrageous hotel price I've heard, and I've been to lots of events at overpriced hotels. I am staying with an AirBNB.

Debguiled is letting me crash on the floor in his room. Maybe there's space for a third?

Sometimes cozy is fun. LMK.

Aloha!

Sorry. Rules of the house. No Spam Sandwiching.

[Vladimir Poontang]

(10-14-2018 02:03 PM)Buck Wild Wrote:  

(10-13-2018 07:39 PM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  

Matt Forney says don't go. I trust Matt Forney. Also I agree that it's not worth it.

Link?

He starts talking about it at 1 hr 36 mins :