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Alpha and Beta: It Doesn't Matter, Only The Context Does
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Alpha and Beta: It Doesn't Matter, Only The Context Does

Thought Experiment: You can be alpha and beta and still pull any woman.

You are a multidimensional individual and looking at this shit as binary is holding you back.

I hate this dichotomy and abstain from conversations revolving around it here but to illustrate a crucial point, which seems to be missing in this forum, let’s dissect it.

Think about how many men you know who are betas and pull hot tail or nailed a solid girl.

Think about how many few actual alphas exist and why this whole community pedestalizes that trait specifically for women; it’s where most men are lacking.

I am not advocating being beta.

Instead, I am suggesting shifting your focus, zooming out and understanding what women respond to and why this matters in attracting them.

This is an introspective theme which calls your position in the social hierarchy into question hence the zooming out. You have to be alpha in certain spheres, no doubt.
This coincides with confidence, success and all other facets, which contribute to you being desirable, high value and ‘top of the food chain’.

Let’s apply a different lens to this.

Let’s also assume you are a guy who is on top of his shit and ticks the basic boxes of social skills, appearance, logistics i.e. you can get laid and can notice social cues and patterns.



It’s not about how Alpha or Beta the man is but rather, WHAT IS THE WOMAN RESPONSIVE TO?

A 21 year old girl you happen to know is most likely ‘alpha receptive’ while a 35 year old woman with a kid is probably ‘beta receptive’. A single woman who hasn’t been fucked (read: mental connection via sex) will respond differently to a taken woman who is in a LTR yet is curious about you.

Let that sink in.

Be mindful of this when you’re talking to a woman and sussing her out.

Remember this when you’re asking for advice on this forum.

Tight game is not what you read in some book.

It’s not what a high rep member responded with to your predicament.

Good, solid game is literally what this exact, specific woman will respond to, right here, right now, under these circumstances.

It could be minutes in, hours in, days later. Her actual response will determine which aspect of your personality, what level of game and sexuality and your general frame, you should amplify and share with her.

If this girl, right here and right now, is responding to what you put out there then your game is tight, right now. The right now is all that matters because this is the impression you make.

Guess what?

You hook her later on back in to the mindset of the ‘right now’.

It could be different to what ALPHAMALE_99 suggested you do in your thread. It will vary from steps what xyz blog told you to follow. It might be unlike the script you discussed over some brandy with your natural friend who felt the pressure to keep up with your autistic analysis of human interactions.

If she is responding POSITIVELY to what you’re putting out there, then it doesn’t matter what anyone else says. The only difference is consistency over a long enough period which leads to happiness and confidence.

It boils down to some women being more Alpha receptive and other women being more Beta receptive.

This depends on her experiences, state of life, current sexual partners/satisfaction, time of the month etc.

Experiment with this. You will be badass in the conversation, leading, being sexy and drop something about this cute kitten your neighbor got, or how you surprised your grandmother with some flowers or something like this.

Notice how she will respond to this, positively or negatively. You hook her. You display social intelligence. You get her. You magnify that shit and hone in on her and she knows this from the way you look at her and the genuine connection you have.

Displaying ‘beta’ behavior in the context of an ‘alpha’ persona is mighty powerful. It creates little ‘checkpoints’ of feedback that you refer back to and she remembers.

Women bring this shit up post-sex, discuss this with their friends and think about this every time you’re being a little bitch. They remember these little spikes and give you another chance. This is what they take out of the interaction. How they FEEL and what they REMEMBER affecting their emotions.

I also believe, based off my experience, that the receptivity VARIES within the same woman daily, monthly, annually. Shocking, right?

More-so, this is why we adjust. This is where game nuggets such as ‘push/pull’ come into it, being playful. Switching it up. Cat and mouse, going back and forth. Social savviness and being vague, throwing shit out as bait and seeing what she latches on to.

Fuck, even recalling old school PUA theories of looking at attraction as a dimmer switch and not an on/off button has some relevance here.

Younger girls are generally more alpha receptive nowadays, especially with Tinder and being more visually stimulated.

Older women are generally more Beta receptive due to their circumstances and it’s evident by now that women slide towards this end of the spectrum, the older they get.

NB: dependent on many factors (marital status, # of kids, culture, previous relationships, testosterone levels); not just age but it's a general trend in my opinion.

For this reason, it’s important to zoom the fuck out of actively analyzing if your behavior is alpha or beta.

Cease to think of it based off ONLY what WE, MEN, present to women and flip the script.

What is this woman responding to? What part of me is she attracted to the most?

You figure out what to project and amplify based off the girl you are with.

In game speak, this is ‘calibration’.

Over time, you get good at 'organizing' women in to varying categories and it becomes natural because you're interested in them and connect with them.

If you’re a man, masculine and in touch with her energy then she will bring it out in you automatically.

Yes, this sounds esoteric to most and if it does, just keep meeting women and enjoying their company.

If you’re looking for an immediate bang, then you will be screening for women responsive to the alpha button pushing. The crazy thing is that other women respond to the beta button pushing (more comfort, less aloof) by virtue of trusting you.

The fundamental point is that you need to stop thinking about this shit as a dichotomy of your behavior. Women bring out the desirable behavior in us. If a woman fails to do that, then I walk away.

Too many men are pedestalizing pussy and looks that they don’t have the balls to walk away from a hot woman.

You're out having fun and you will realize, some women are great to fuck, others are great to connect with. Judge the interaction, not the looks.

If you’re unable to walk away from the idea of sex with a hot woman then you have a problem. Being motivated by desperation to any degree sets you up for future failure, living in a cycle of perpetual inadequacy.

Trust in it.

It's your universe.

She just happens to be visiting today.

Girls talk about other men, stating ‘he’s not my type’. My girl-friends mention shit like this all the time and I laugh.

They also discuss guys who made an impression and essentially, the guy honed in on what she wanted then and there. Sometimes by luck, sometimes with actual game.

I can’t remember the last time a girl told me anything about her type because I know my personality, life experiences and general badassery is so encapsulating she is swept away. You figure out what kinda girl she is and what she responds to.

There’s no rule of thumb. Some chicks have are inexperienced. Others have had countless guys. Some have psychological issues (lol most) and others are just pining for some true connection.

You will end up being a bit of a chameleon by virtue of being socially savvy and also being caught up in the moment.

You are every girl’s type, assuming you have the balls to go off script and trust your understanding of social dynamics. If you aren’t sure, then experiment. Go for it.

So, what is she receptive to?

What are you looking for, that night?

This is why we have 100s of posts saying, I was alpha, I did X Y Z by the book and I couldn’t understand why she wasn’t interested.

Well, did you switch it up? Did you try and be more vulnerable? Connect? Do shit differently?

Did you amplify that shit?

Were you scared of going off script and did you end up ignoring the signals that she may have been more beta receptive or alpha receptive?

This is a trend I noticed in 2012/13, with regards to female behavior.

I fucked more women who had boyfriends or husbands than single women, in these 2 years. When pushed on this, by a close friend, I simply responded “they want what they don’t have or aren't getting”.

Her guy is a bad boy? I am comforting and let her experience that side of me.

Her guy is soft? Yep, you got it.

NB: bedroom is bedroom, always alpha and this is non-negotiable. At worst, it’s expected and at best, they are surprised and intrigued.

I no longer partake in that but lessons were learned.

Forget the forum and engage with the real world, women vary shit loads in what they respond to, emotionally and sexually.

That’s fundamentally game, getting your foot in and taking them on a journey where your clothes eventually come off.

All game theory, nuts and bolts are the cogs within this.

This here, for me, is the engine underneath the hood.

You can pace, control, touch, interrupt, whatever.

It falls under the umbrella of you being aware as to how effective the shit you’re putting out there is to the woman in question, in context, in the moment.

Woman vary in responsiveness to different elements of your character, looks, game, whatever the fuck you think is the most important thing.

My point is that you don’t have to be some Lorenzo Lamas, dark triad badass to get laid. You can be alpha but don't expect it to be the panacea to all of your problems with women. This is the magic of it all. You can have power and still meet chicks who won't respond.

All that matters is this moment, right here, right now.

What is she responding to?

Did you create a hook strong enough based off the above that when you re-engage her, she will light up, skip a beat and immediately respond?

SOLID CONTEXT and your ability to identify what the woman is RESPONSIVE to TRUMPS alpha/beta/whatever the fuck script you think is the holy grail.

For me, that is solid game.

I can be beta when necessary, because she responds to that. I am alpha elsewhere, because she responds to that.

Of course, it means being vulnerable, being flexible and not being anal with 'rules' about attraction.

There are no rules in the moment because she defines what attracts her and you hone in on that and amplify the fuck out of it.

It's not binary. You can be both. You can fluctuate between everything in between and get her wet based off your understanding of her brain. You build chemistry.

This is natural and essentially, don't be ashamed of being vulnerable because you read that you have to be alpha king kong 24/7. This is never the case.

All that matters is you identifying what she is receptive to and amplifying that.
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Alpha and Beta: It Doesn't Matter, Only The Context Does

I haven't heard alpha and beta terminology in awhile. Probably because hypergamy exploded after 2013 (Tinder + Instagram) and a lot of former alphas have lost their SMV in an increasingly hypergamous dating market. Most of the talk these days is incels vs. non-incels I think.
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Alpha and Beta: It Doesn't Matter, Only The Context Does

Excellent post, Noir.

On another level, maybe deeper or shallower depending on your perspective, game is about getting what you want and achieving your goals.

Women are malleable creatures. Some see this as a negative, but it’s just our human nature. This is why they want strong men to keep them in line, and go off the rails when left to their own devices.

Women are not particularly good at choosing that high quality man to lead them, but that’s for another discussion.

Good game involves directing the particular woman to be who you want her to be.

You can’t turn a ho into a housewife, as the saying goes, but I’ve had plenty of non-wife material girls barefoot in the kitchen cooking up something passable thanks to setting expectations from the jump and using game to live the life I want to live in any given moment.

Short term, long term - the game toolbox is the same. You can never stop improving and learning and putting in the effort to be the man you aspire to be and to have the relationship(s) with women that you desire.

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Alpha and Beta: It Doesn't Matter, Only The Context Does

True masters of game can read the situation and adjust accordingly.

I tend to go 80/20, but even that is perhaps too high and I really need to read each INDIVIDUAL interaction and adjust. I get called a 'player' and 'manwhore' a lot. So obviously I need to work on what vibes I am giving out and how they are being received and what she is feeling in that moment.

The difficultly for most guys is that when they get into a LTR/marriage, any Alpha characteristics are quickly erased by 100% Beta characteristics. They become pushovers, pussies, and then it's a very deep hole to dig out of. I'd even almost argue it's even more important to know game when you're in a LTR/marriage.

Instead of asking yourself "Is this Alpha?" you need to ask yourself "What behavior gives me the best chance of me succeeding?"

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Alpha and Beta: It Doesn't Matter, Only The Context Does

Great post.

Alpha / beta terminology has been corrupted into "whatever I want it to mean, whatever makes me look good in my field report."

Put into different words...sounds like a take on:

R vs. K, AKA need for value vs. comfort
How these change given other circumstances in their lives.

Their long-term predisposition is towards one or the other end of the spectrum, which is in turn influenced by short-term factors (guys in their lives, validation from family / social circle, what side of the bed they woke up).

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Alpha and Beta: It Doesn't Matter, Only The Context Does

Nice post

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There are no rules in the moment because she defines what attracts her and you hone in on that and amplify the fuck out of it.

You also must define what attracts you to her!
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Alpha and Beta: It Doesn't Matter, Only The Context Does

Quote: (09-04-2018 07:41 AM)Noir Wrote:  

Thought Experiment: You can be alpha and beta and still pull any woman.

You are a multidimensional individual and looking at this shit as binary is holding you back.

I hate this dichotomy and abstain from conversations revolving around it here but to illustrate a crucial point, which seems to be missing in this forum, let’s dissect it.

Think about how many men you know who are betas and pull hot tail or nailed a solid girl.

Think about how many few actual alphas exist and why this whole community pedestalizes that trait specifically for women; it’s where most men are lacking.

I am not advocating being beta.

Instead, I am suggesting shifting your focus, zooming out and understanding what women respond to and why this matters in attracting them.

This is an introspective theme which calls your position in the social hierarchy into question hence the zooming out. You have to be alpha in certain spheres, no doubt.
This coincides with confidence, success and all other facets, which contribute to you being desirable, high value and ‘top of the food chain’.

Let’s apply a different lens to this.

Let’s also assume you are a guy who is on top of his shit and ticks the basic boxes of social skills, appearance, logistics i.e. you can get laid and can notice social cues and patterns.



It’s not about how Alpha or Beta the man is but rather, WHAT IS THE WOMAN RESPONSIVE TO?

A 21 year old girl you happen to know is most likely ‘alpha receptive’ while a 35 year old woman with a kid is probably ‘beta receptive’. A single woman who hasn’t been fucked (read: mental connection via sex) will respond differently to a taken woman who is in a LTR yet is curious about you.

Let that sink in.

Be mindful of this when you’re talking to a woman and sussing her out.

Remember this when you’re asking for advice on this forum.

Tight game is not what you read in some book.

It’s not what a high rep member responded with to your predicament.

Good, solid game is literally what this exact, specific woman will respond to, right here, right now, under these circumstances.

It could be minutes in, hours in, days later. Her actual response will determine which aspect of your personality, what level of game and sexuality and your general frame, you should amplify and share with her.

If this girl, right here and right now, is responding to what you put out there then your game is tight, right now. The right now is all that matters because this is the impression you make.

Guess what?

You hook her later on back in to the mindset of the ‘right now’.

It could be different to what ALPHAMALE_99 suggested you do in your thread. It will vary from steps what xyz blog told you to follow. It might be unlike the script you discussed over some brandy with your natural friend who felt the pressure to keep up with your autistic analysis of human interactions.

If she is responding POSITIVELY to what you’re putting out there, then it doesn’t matter what anyone else says. The only difference is consistency over a long enough period which leads to happiness and confidence.

It boils down to some women being more Alpha receptive and other women being more Beta receptive.

This depends on her experiences, state of life, current sexual partners/satisfaction, time of the month etc.

Experiment with this. You will be badass in the conversation, leading, being sexy and drop something about this cute kitten your neighbor got, or how you surprised your grandmother with some flowers or something like this.

Notice how she will respond to this, positively or negatively. You hook her. You display social intelligence. You get her. You magnify that shit and hone in on her and she knows this from the way you look at her and the genuine connection you have.

Displaying ‘beta’ behavior in the context of an ‘alpha’ persona is mighty powerful. It creates little ‘checkpoints’ of feedback that you refer back to and she remembers.

Women bring this shit up post-sex, discuss this with their friends and think about this every time you’re being a little bitch. They remember these little spikes and give you another chance. This is what they take out of the interaction. How they FEEL and what they REMEMBER affecting their emotions.

I also believe, based off my experience, that the receptivity VARIES within the same woman daily, monthly, annually. Shocking, right?

More-so, this is why we adjust. This is where game nuggets such as ‘push/pull’ come into it, being playful. Switching it up. Cat and mouse, going back and forth. Social savviness and being vague, throwing shit out as bait and seeing what she latches on to.

Fuck, even recalling old school PUA theories of looking at attraction as a dimmer switch and not an on/off button has some relevance here.

Younger girls are generally more alpha receptive nowadays, especially with Tinder and being more visually stimulated.

Older women are generally more Beta receptive due to their circumstances and it’s evident by now that women slide towards this end of the spectrum, the older they get.

NB: dependent on many factors (marital status, # of kids, culture, previous relationships, testosterone levels); not just age but it's a general trend in my opinion.

For this reason, it’s important to zoom the fuck out of actively analyzing if your behavior is alpha or beta.

Cease to think of it based off ONLY what WE, MEN, present to women and flip the script.

What is this woman responding to? What part of me is she attracted to the most?

You figure out what to project and amplify based off the girl you are with.

In game speak, this is ‘calibration’.

Over time, you get good at 'organizing' women in to varying categories and it becomes natural because you're interested in them and connect with them.

If you’re a man, masculine and in touch with her energy then she will bring it out in you automatically.

Yes, this sounds esoteric to most and if it does, just keep meeting women and enjoying their company.

If you’re looking for an immediate bang, then you will be screening for women responsive to the alpha button pushing. The crazy thing is that other women respond to the beta button pushing (more comfort, less aloof) by virtue of trusting you.

The fundamental point is that you need to stop thinking about this shit as a dichotomy of your behavior. Women bring out the desirable behavior in us. If a woman fails to do that, then I walk away.

Too many men are pedestalizing pussy and looks that they don’t have the balls to walk away from a hot woman.

You're out having fun and you will realize, some women are great to fuck, others are great to connect with. Judge the interaction, not the looks.

If you’re unable to walk away from the idea of sex with a hot woman then you have a problem. Being motivated by desperation to any degree sets you up for future failure, living in a cycle of perpetual inadequacy.

Trust in it.

It's your universe.

She just happens to be visiting today.

Girls talk about other men, stating ‘he’s not my type’. My girl-friends mention shit like this all the time and I laugh.

They also discuss guys who made an impression and essentially, the guy honed in on what she wanted then and there. Sometimes by luck, sometimes with actual game.

I can’t remember the last time a girl told me anything about her type because I know my personality, life experiences and general badassery is so encapsulating she is swept away. You figure out what kinda girl she is and what she responds to.

There’s no rule of thumb. Some chicks have are inexperienced. Others have had countless guys. Some have psychological issues (lol most) and others are just pining for some true connection.

You will end up being a bit of a chameleon by virtue of being socially savvy and also being caught up in the moment.

You are every girl’s type, assuming you have the balls to go off script and trust your understanding of social dynamics. If you aren’t sure, then experiment. Go for it.

So, what is she receptive to?

What are you looking for, that night?

This is why we have 100s of posts saying, I was alpha, I did X Y Z by the book and I couldn’t understand why she wasn’t interested.

Well, did you switch it up? Did you try and be more vulnerable? Connect? Do shit differently?

Did you amplify that shit?

Were you scared of going off script and did you end up ignoring the signals that she may have been more beta receptive or alpha receptive?

This is a trend I noticed in 2012/13, with regards to female behavior.

I fucked more women who had boyfriends or husbands than single women, in these 2 years. When pushed on this, by a close friend, I simply responded “they want what they don’t have or aren't getting”.

Her guy is a bad boy? I am comforting and let her experience that side of me.

Her guy is soft? Yep, you got it.

NB: bedroom is bedroom, always alpha and this is non-negotiable. At worst, it’s expected and at best, they are surprised and intrigued.

I no longer partake in that but lessons were learned.

Forget the forum and engage with the real world, women vary shit loads in what they respond to, emotionally and sexually.

That’s fundamentally game, getting your foot in and taking them on a journey where your clothes eventually come off.

All game theory, nuts and bolts are the cogs within this.

This here, for me, is the engine underneath the hood.

You can pace, control, touch, interrupt, whatever.

It falls under the umbrella of you being aware as to how effective the shit you’re putting out there is to the woman in question, in context, in the moment.

Woman vary in responsiveness to different elements of your character, looks, game, whatever the fuck you think is the most important thing.

My point is that you don’t have to be some Lorenzo Lamas, dark triad badass to get laid. You can be alpha but don't expect it to be the panacea to all of your problems with women. This is the magic of it all. You can have power and still meet chicks who won't respond.

All that matters is this moment, right here, right now.

What is she responding to?

Did you create a hook strong enough based off the above that when you re-engage her, she will light up, skip a beat and immediately respond?

SOLID CONTEXT and your ability to identify what the woman is RESPONSIVE to TRUMPS alpha/beta/whatever the fuck script you think is the holy grail.

For me, that is solid game.

I can be beta when necessary, because she responds to that. I am alpha elsewhere, because she responds to that.

Of course, it means being vulnerable, being flexible and not being anal with 'rules' about attraction.

There are no rules in the moment because she defines what attracts her and you hone in on that and amplify the fuck out of it.

It's not binary. You can be both. You can fluctuate between everything in between and get her wet based off your understanding of her brain. You build chemistry.

This is natural and essentially, don't be ashamed of being vulnerable because you read that you have to be alpha king kong 24/7. This is never the case.

All that matters is you identifying what she is receptive to and amplifying that.

Great post. In a nutshell, there is no one size fits all approach.
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Alpha and Beta: It Doesn't Matter, Only The Context Does

Quote: (09-04-2018 09:08 AM)getdownonit Wrote:  

On another level, maybe deeper or shallower depending on your perspective, game is about getting what you want and achieving your goals.

Women are malleable creatures. Some see this as a negative, but it’s just our human nature. This is why they want strong men to keep them in line, and go off the rails when left to their own devices.

Women are not particularly good at choosing that high quality man to lead them, but that’s for another discussion.

Good game involves directing the particular woman to be who you want her to be.

You can’t turn a ho into a housewife, as the saying goes, but I’ve had plenty of non-wife material girls barefoot in the kitchen cooking up something passable thanks to setting expectations from the jump and using game to live the life I want to live in any given moment.

Life is all about reaching your potential and game is a subset of the multiple categories in achieving that.

In some of my LTR posts, I touch base on how much a woman will change for the better, when aiming to please you. Some is passive and quite a bit is direct which is precisely what I agree with in your great post.

A lot of women fail to choose high quality men because their behaviour, skill set and sometimes appearance doesn't justify attracting them. If men are bees, then women aren't the most beautiful flowers getting pollinated.

I co-sign everything in your post.


Quote: (09-04-2018 09:23 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  

True masters of game can read the situation and adjust accordingly.

I tend to go 80/20, but even that is perhaps too high and I really need to read each INDIVIDUAL interaction and adjust. I get called a 'player' and 'manwhore' a lot. So obviously I need to work on what vibes I am giving out and how they are being received and what she is feeling in that moment.

The difficultly for most guys is that when they get into a LTR/marriage, any Alpha characteristics are quickly erased by 100% Beta characteristics. They become pushovers, pussies, and then it's a very deep hole to dig out of. I'd even almost argue it's even more important to know game when you're in a LTR/marriage.

Instead of asking yourself "Is this Alpha?" you need to ask yourself "What behavior gives me the best chance of me succeeding?"

Agreed! The 'player' shit tests are indicative of something off with your vibe and what you're putting out there.

I will however say that most of the game and work is done pre-LTR as you enter a different bargaining period and your bargaining strength is higher when you have your shit sorted. Game then ends up being little fixes to re-direct the course of the relationship to the best path forward, for both of you.


Quote: (09-04-2018 10:41 AM)polar Wrote:  

Their long-term predisposition is towards one or the other end of the spectrum, which is in turn influenced by short-term factors (guys in their lives, validation from family / social circle, what side of the bed they woke up).

Indeed, it's the cumulative effect of small decisions women make that add up to their long-term predisposition and mentality towards dating and men.

More-so, women are highly influenced by external factors and their peers and you notice this readily within social circles.

Quote: (09-04-2018 11:38 AM)godzilla Wrote:  

Nice post

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There are no rules in the moment because she defines what attracts her and you hone in on that and amplify the fuck out of it.

You also must define what attracts you to her!

Of course!

This is already defined before you leave home and I generally know what I want.

For the sake of discussion though (and this coincides with a recent observation), I have noticed that I am attracted to congruence or incongruence within certain girls depending on the girl and my initial suspicions of her.

For example, my most recent lay was a really conservative Afrikaans girl and I was really wrong about her. She was really feisty, had multiple tattoos and is bi-sexual.

Generally, I wouldn't find this very attractive but her 'game' i.e. ability to sell this as a positive to me through sheer contrast of what I thought vs what actually was, had the opposite effect and I was massively attracted to this.

Juxtaposed with the fact that she is pretty much a housewife already by nature of her culture made her more attractive in my eyes.

Sometimes, it's comforting knowing I know what I want and finding a woman to spend the night with.

Other times, it's exciting knowing that my initial expectations are destroyed through some surprise and it ends up being an adventure.

I have considered writing about 'female game' for a while and this is one of the themes, among the tactics of compliance women use to attract or keep men for their own purposes.

An example would be two women who are similar on paper but with a different approach to laying out what they want out of the interaction via actions to affect your responses.

Then you see their actions as a function of pinging off your value. It goes on and on and probably merits its own thread along with the different hypotheses about what girls do past being hot and yes/no game towards men i.e. being active.
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Alpha and Beta: It Doesn't Matter, Only The Context Does

Calibration is key.

Calibration has always been the key.

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Alpha and Beta: It Doesn't Matter, Only The Context Does

I agree with everything you gentlemen have posted, but there's also something to be said about not even bothering with extreme versions of calibration. If I have a woman on the hook i'm not gonna go through any extra lengths to see what she responds to and I don't care if I miss it. That bitch is rolling with me or getting rolled over. I look back on every first date i've had over the last 3-5 years and there have only been 2 women that didn't show high interest off that date and i know exactly where i fucked with both. I certainly exercised calibration with all of them to a degree. For example, if she's really into music we have a music focused conversation. Same goes for fashion, reality tv, academia...etc. The one constant though is im not changing myself. Im not making myself more or less animated. Im being me within my masculine frame and it consistently worked time and time and time again. I don't care if what i don't say isn't triggering certain reactions. I give these bitches the same 1st date conversation pattern and hit the same notes almost every time and i've had great success. This has worked with all women of all races and nationalities. Also, if a woman says for example Im really into theater. I would never insult her interest, but I'd immediately dig in my heels and say how i don't have much of an interest in theater and she would really really have to do something special for me to even consider attending a play. This has worked in spades, but sorry Im rambling.
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