[Zep]

Quote:

Women are claiming that they are "too clever" for men

1 - Are they? I didn't hear that being stated that frankly by the two being interviewed. Click-Bait title? Overstated to rouse emotion? It worked.

2 - British men are lame. Generally they lack swagger and are just too polite. No wonder that lovely young lady hooks up with D.J.s and musicians, they're generally 100 x more interesting to be around than IT guys.

3 - The type of lady on the right falls for my friend. He's an "Oreo Cookie" ( black on the outside , white on the inside ). They find him exotic and very attractive, and acceptable to their families because of his manners. He slayed tons of these types of girls. He's a 'safe' black man.

4 - they both need to get out of wherever they are, and come to terms with the fact that will probably have to number farm and hunt similarly to what a man has to do. In other words, make finding a mate more of a job.

5 - Geeks have to realize that they really need to learn social skills. The IT guy, the Physicist, the Chemist...whatever, there's no excuse now. The information is out there that they need to learn the art of Competent Flirting. I try to tell a good looking 28 yr old IT guy that he needs to fucking learn game, he won't do it, he's too stubborn. This retard is in his prime, I see girls showing him blatant IOI's, I've told him the information is out there and that he will see my point in 20 yrs and be angry with himself. I didn't have this info when I was his age. He's throwing his best years away, dumb-ass. lol.

Meh, watcha gonna do.

[Paracelsus]

(08-19-2018 05:39 PM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  

Sorry to go off topic but where can I find all the maxims? I've tried in the past, with no luck.

Someone on plebbit put a fair number of them together:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comm...092014_to/

[Vladimir Poontang]

(08-19-2018 06:12 PM)Zep Wrote:  

Quote:

Women are claiming that they are "too clever" for men

1 - Are they? I didn't hear that being stated that frankly by the two being interviewed. Click-Bait title? Overstated to rouse emotion? It worked.

[Kid Twist]

(08-19-2018 07:05 PM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  

(08-19-2018 06:12 PM)Zep Wrote:  

Quote:

Women are claiming that they are "too clever" for men

1 - Are they? I didn't hear that being stated that frankly by the two being interviewed. Click-Bait title? Overstated to rouse emotion? It worked.

Now why would a young woman want an older man ... hmmm

These people are clueless.

How intelligent can you be if you know exactly zero about biology or history?

I can see Natasha getting tingles from an older man and then ... becoming a Trump and Brexit supporter. She'll say, when asked about the 180,

"It just happened."

[Veloce]

(08-18-2018 06:30 AM)Hypno Wrote:  

I actually have an advanced degree an IQ two standard deviations above the norm (top 2%), but I don't do any better with these women. They are still interested in the typical attraction triggers. I actually met to Phd students recently. One I discussed her research with, no bang.

I was in downtown LA years ago at my favorite bar hopping area. Was posted up, enjoying my night, I'd done a few approaches. Group of people post up at the bar to my right, I open them, get a great rapport going.

There was a hot girl in the group I started to chat up, this was when I was really into game and in the zone. I went through a typical script of teasing her, setting up physical contact early, things were going great. She kept asking what I do for a living and I kept evading and teasing, before coming clean. Then I asked what she was into.

She was an opera singer at USC Thornton school of music. I dropped my guard and went into "genuine" mode. I'm a classically trained musician, it's impossible for me to find girls that have any knowledge or interest in classical music. I tried to keep the game script going but I started asking about favorite composers and wanting to have a halfway intelligent conversation about classical music.

She literally turned her entire body and wouldn't talk to me for the rest of the night. She was as basic as any other bitch at the bar that night. It was a powerful lesson.

Incidentally, years later I was in Romania and did the exact same thing with a Romanian girl, a solid 8 in my book (I was with Papi Rico) We met at a classical show (Papi fell asleep 10 minutes in), we all got drinks afterwards, and I wound up having some really intense sex with one of the hottest girls I've ever been with that could hold an intellectual conversation about classical music (in her non-native language no less).

[bbgun]

Yes. Next question.

[N°6]

it always seems to be the over indoctrinated women who study the arts, languages and humanities who develop the greatest seething resentment for men. Is the importance on intellectual debate and conversation because there’s nothing else you can do with such education outside being a struggling writer or teacher?

This was an Interesting read as I work for a STEM firm and I’m told every day just how hard life is for middle class white women despite a few admiting they’ve never been unsuccessful at a job interview in their lives.

[PapayaTapper]

(08-17-2018 11:46 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

With long dark hair, big brown eyes and a stunning Size 8 figure, Natasha — entering her final year at Goldsmiths, University of London — has no problem attracting male attention.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-20-2018 08:20 PM)Veloce Wrote:  

She was an opera singer at USC Thornton school of music. I dropped my guard and went into "genuine" mode. I'm a classically trained musician, it's impossible for me to find girls that have any knowledge or interest in classical music. I tried to keep the game script going but I started asking about favorite composers and wanting to have a halfway intelligent conversation about classical music.

She literally turned her entire body and wouldn't talk to me for the rest of the night. She was as basic as any other bitch at the bar that night. It was a powerful lesson.

Incidentally, years later I was in Romania and did the exact same thing with a Romanian girl, a solid 8 in my book (I was with Papi Rico) We met at a classical show (Papi fell asleep 10 minutes in), we all got drinks afterwards, and I wound up having some really intense sex with one of the hottest girls I've ever been with that could hold an intellectual conversation about classical music (in her non-native language no less).

You kept it too real, man!

Basic bitches don't want reality - just fun in their party years.

[Mage]

I am too sexy for these "smart" women.

[StrikeBack]

(08-21-2018 12:43 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(08-17-2018 11:46 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

With long dark hair, big brown eyes and a stunning Size 8 figure, Natasha — entering her final year at Goldsmiths, University of London — has no problem attracting male attention.

Size 8 UK (AU) is similar to size 4 US. That broad is definitely WB, she's just too annoying to keep around.

[Richard Turpin]

At a recent family event, an elder relative was seen in a suit for the first time anyone can remember. He looked years younger and this drew comments from women in the family. I remarked to them that he 'must have a portrait hidden in the attic!'.

It wasn't a great joke. I was taking a risk in that they may not know what I was talking about. But it had served me well over the years so I fired it off regardless.

The blank looks and the lack of polite laughter warned me that I'd misjudged my audience.

"You know - like 'The Picture of Dorian Gray'..... Oscar Wilde...?"

They hadn't seen the film or read the fucking book. At least one of them didn't know who Oscar Wilde even was. I had to explain the whole fucking film. As we all know, if you have to explain a joke, it isn't funny. I would have been better off breaking the ice with a remark about 'Love Island' or whatever it is women watch now.

One of them was a woman in her 50s with a high-powered career and the other two were her university-attending daughters (one of whom is training to be a teacher).

Humour is risky in this regard when dealing with women. It's rewards are high but as humour requires a certain level of intelligence, you have to gauge things right.

Regarding the broader question of women and intelligence, I'm with team Schopenhauer on this one;

'The nobler and more perfect a thing is, the later and slower is it in reaching maturity. Man reaches the maturity of his reasoning and mental faculties scarcely before he is eight-and-twenty; woman when she is eighteen; but hers is reason of very narrow limitations. This is why women remain children all their lives, for they always see only what is near at hand, cling to the present, take the appearance of a thing for reality, and prefer trifling matters to the most important. It is by virtue of man’s reasoning powers that he does not live in the present only, like the brute, but observes and ponders over the past and future; and from this spring discretion, care, and that anxiety which we so frequently notice in people. The advantages, as well as the disadvantages, that this entails, make woman, in consequence of her weaker reasoning powers, less of a partaker in them. Moreover, she is intellectually short-sighted, for although her intuitive understanding quickly perceives what is near to her, on the other hand her circle of vision is limited and does not embrace anything that is remote; hence everything that is absent or past, or in the future, affects women in a less degree than men. This is why they have greater inclination for extravagance, which sometimes borders on madness. Women in their hearts think that men are intended to earn money so that they may spend it, if possible during their husband’s lifetime, but at any rate after his death.'

Aruthur Schopenhauer 'On Women' (RT:- awesome by the way, worth reading the whole thing)

[Simeon_Strangelight]

< Amazing - and these were British women? How can you go through life as a Brit without knowing Oscar Wilde or Dorian Grey? It's as if they have never heard of Sherlock Holmes.

[Vladimir Poontang]

I'm unemployed and I live with 3 other guys, but I know who Jeremy Corbyn is. Do you think I have a chance?

[Jefferson]

Poor feminist Arma Mahdawi recently wrote another piece on the Guardian lamenting that men were mostly attracted to younger women. You have to feel sorry for the anxieties older feminists have, educated so highly in Gender Studies and Labour politics, but unable to find a satisfactory male. Heart. Bleeding.

[Mr. Wolf]

(08-20-2018 09:06 PM)bbgun Wrote:  



Yes. Next question.

Don't fall for the language trap. She is 35. That is neck-deep IN middle age. She uses "hurtling towards" to imply that she's not even close to middle age. She is "hurtling towards" 40. Most of the 26-28 YOs I see out at bars are "hurtling towards" middle age, usually with breakneck speed.

[Dusty]

I started a thread on this delusional toad a few years ago.

thread-28069.html

[N°6]

Simeon Strangelight Wrote:

But ask yourself honestly:
How many more men would get married if suddenly legions of hot 18-21 year old girls would do their best to get married and have children?

I’d go so far as to state that the hook up culture would end tomorrow. Despite what feminists and gallant cuckservatives say, the dating and mating market is exactly how women want it - young women particularly who are at the top of the pyramid.

We don’t here terms like ‘man up/ step up’™ aimed at men when 18-21 debutantes are the prize. No. Such terms are when women over 30 with Chad’s bastards are the willing brides.

[Zep]

(08-19-2018 07:05 PM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  

(08-19-2018 06:12 PM)Zep Wrote:  

Quote:

Women are claiming that they are "too clever" for men

1 - Are they? I didn't hear that being stated that frankly by the two being interviewed. Click-Bait title? Overstated to rouse emotion? It worked.

They didn't say it. It was a clickbait title, Too Clever was even put in quotes so that it could be interpreted as something the women said, or, sentiments of the women the producers of the show were summarizing. This is close to 'putting words in their mouths'.

It was good clickbait.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-26-2018 02:41 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

Simeon Strangelight Wrote:

But ask yourself honestly:
How many more men would get married if suddenly legions of hot 18-21 year old girls would do their best to get married and have children?

I’d go so far as to state that the hook up culture would end tomorrow. Despite what feminists and gallant cuckservatives say, the dating and mating market is exactly how women want it - young women particularly who are at the top of the pyramid.

We don’t here terms like ‘man up/ step up’™ aimed at men when 18-21 debutantes are the prize. No. Such terms are when women over 30 with Chad’s bastards are the willing brides.

Correct - getting men motivated to marry hot 18-year-olds is seriously not difficult. The issue here is that women don't want to get married at that age - any girl honestly and enthusiastically going on a date with a 26yo man and telling him that she wants to marry and have babies soon - while all her other friends are doing so too - in such a world men would MAKE IT HAPPEN.

Man up and marry a hot 19yo? She would need a stick to fend the men men off. Man up and marry a 33yo single mother? Yeah - that will take serious convincing.

[Aurini]

(08-17-2018 08:22 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

Not sure if this is the same Natasha Hooper chick because of the last name, "Natasha Hooper-Loren". She's sort of ditzy, not clever.

Her Instagram is set to private. But she has an (old) profile page at StarNow.com.

WB once she shut the hell up.

Edit. Yep, this is her all right. The woman next to Natasha is 41 year old Andrea Gould.

...

Oh, God, shut the hell up you stupid bint! I watched 15 seconds of her prattle, and I almost puked. I can't believe that she thinks this is "Intellectual". Her vocal cadence is worse than throat cancer.

[Aurini]

(08-20-2018 08:20 PM)Veloce Wrote:  

(08-18-2018 06:30 AM)Hypno Wrote:  

I actually have an advanced degree an IQ two standard deviations above the norm (top 2%), but I don't do any better with these women. They are still interested in the typical attraction triggers. I actually met to Phd students recently. One I discussed her research with, no bang.

I was in downtown LA years ago at my favorite bar hopping area. Was posted up, enjoying my night, I'd done a few approaches. Group of people post up at the bar to my right, I open them, get a great rapport going.

There was a hot girl in the group I started to chat up, this was when I was really into game and in the zone. I went through a typical script of teasing her, setting up physical contact early, things were going great. She kept asking what I do for a living and I kept evading and teasing, before coming clean. Then I asked what she was into.

She was an opera singer at USC Thornton school of music. I dropped my guard and went into "genuine" mode. I'm a classically trained musician, it's impossible for me to find girls that have any knowledge or interest in classical music. I tried to keep the game script going but I started asking about favorite composers and wanting to have a halfway intelligent conversation about classical music.

She literally turned her entire body and wouldn't talk to me for the rest of the night. She was as basic as any other bitch at the bar that night. It was a powerful lesson.

Incidentally, years later I was in Romania and did the exact same thing with a Romanian girl, a solid 8 in my book (I was with Papi Rico) We met at a classical show (Papi fell asleep 10 minutes in), we all got drinks afterwards, and I wound up having some really intense sex with one of the hottest girls I've ever been with that could hold an intellectual conversation about classical music (in her non-native language no less).

Good Lord, I can't tell you how many times I've done exactly that. Met a chick, gamed her, on the path to success - when she does something that makes me think that she could be good relationship material. At that point, I drop the cocky asshole game, and start treating her like a person.

The result? Icicles. With. Out. Exception.

Hell, I just did that the other day. Girl owned a composite longbow, was upgrading an accounting degree, likes guns, hiking, and killing animals, and so I spoke to her like a human being.* The next day she flaked.

I wish I had a solution to this. I do not. I will say this much, though, gentlemen: if cocky asshole game works, then you're not going to break anything that wasn't broken to begin with. I still go "Normal Mode" every once in a while, because who knows, maybe there is a unicorn out there, but I'm never surprised when it fails.

*To clarify, I know what being a pussy is (I've got a number of girls whom I was sick of to dump me by being nice to them), this isn't that. It's simply being open and friendly, rather than sarcastic and condescending.

[Vladimir Poontang]

(08-26-2018 11:42 AM)Zep Wrote:  

(08-19-2018 07:05 PM)Vladimir Poontang Wrote:  

(08-19-2018 06:12 PM)Zep Wrote:  

Quote:

Women are claiming that they are "too clever" for men

1 - Are they? I didn't hear that being stated that frankly by the two being interviewed. Click-Bait title? Overstated to rouse emotion? It worked.

They didn't say it. It was a clickbait title, Too Clever was even put in quotes so that it could be interpreted as something the women said, or, sentiments of the women the producers of the show were summarizing. This is close to 'putting words in their mouths'.

It was good clickbait.

Yes I know they didn't say it in those exact words, but they essentially did say it in their own words. The title of the thread is based on the title of the video itself. It's not based on anything that they actually said. If anything is clickbait, it's the video's title, but again, they did essentially say it, so I don't think it's misleading or exaggerated.

[RawGod]

(08-26-2018 02:59 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

Good Lord, I can't tell you how many times I've done exactly that. Met a chick, gamed her, on the path to success - when she does something that makes me think that she could be good relationship material. At that point, I drop the cocky asshole game, and start treating her like a person.

The result? Icicles. With. Out. Exception.

I wish I had a solution to this. I do not.

Experienced this many times...finally meet a girl with what seems like a shared interest, let the guard down and enthusiasm show, and boom. It's over.

[BlackHussar]

I would advise reading through this thread as well.

thread-59149.html

It's the same as with other female delusions, like wanting a strong but vulnerable, gentle albeit rough, intellectual but direct man, all in one person. Bullshit.

In my experience, no matter how smart a girl is... NO MATTER, no matter how different she seems to you, she is still a woman, and her pussy will dry up faster than you can say "flake" when you're too intellectual.

Of course, there are some chicks which ARE smarter and, at least in their heads, want to engage in some intellectual discourse. But in the end, she wants the D that night. You can be smart, charming and even gentle, but remember to escalate at a certain point. You are a man, not a beta orbiter.

One of my biggest failures in game was with such a girl, in summertime long ago. I was out in a club with 2 wingmen, there were these 3 chicks. Perfect. We opened them up, started dancing, light kino, drinking etc.
I wasn't the most experienced guy of the three of us, but I bravely attacked the prettiest of the three girls, 4-5 years older than me. She was definitely one of top 5 girls I ever saw in person. She dry humped me with her ass, looked at me over her shoulder provocatively, everything was perfect. Instead of kissing her right there (I was a too polite pussy), I told her we should go out to catch some air.

However, I was so infatuated, I felt that she is different (despite her humping my cock with her ass 5 minutes after I met her, I know, I know) and all that bullshit that I didn't press for a kiss in the alley next to the club, but began talking. She began spitting out delusional anti-slut defense like "I never kiss on the first date", "I'm so glad you're not like the other guys who always try to kiss me right away", blah blah blah, but she quickly grew bored of her own bullshit and said that we should go back.

We started dancing again, but she seemed less interested now. How strange.

After some time, the 6 of us went to the nearby beach. While my Wingman1 kissed his girl on a bench, and Wingman2 rode away on his motorbike with his girl to seal the deal at his apartment, this mad chick and yours truly exhibited a Titanic-style romantic scene I still cringe when I think of. 3 AM, beach, we took our shoes off and walked into the sea to about knee-depth. She put her hands around my neck, and I put my hands on her hips, but instead of kissing, she again started telling me how great a guy I am, unlike those other jerks, and then she buried her face in my shoulder and just stood there hugging me for eternity.

I just stood there like the idiot I was, I didn't have the guts to just lift her face up and kiss her. However, I already began creeping and reading this Forum at that time, so I remembered the lessons about no kissing before you get to the place where you can fuck. "That's it", I thought to myself. "She obviously likes me and I don't look like a pussy for not kissing her already."

Finally, I gathered enough bravery to call her over to my place, as I had "some nice wine".
*SLUT SHIELDS UP*
"No, no, I'm not like that..." - "Baby, I know you're not. We'll just have a glass of wine, and then we can talk and cuddle. I know you're not like the other girls and I really want to get to know you." - "You're so sweet. Ok, let's go."

And then, the grand finale. We drank a glass of wine, smoked a ciggie at the balcony, and then she told me she is tired. Instead of recognizing it as her will to get some action, I believed she is genuinely tired, so I took her to bed BUT I didn't do anything, I just stroked her hair and said something cringy like "get some rest, princess, we can talk in the morning".

Of course, after half an hour, when she saw that this idiot won't even try to kiss her, she stood up and said she needed to go to her place, to check up on girls etc.
She went away.

The next day was my last at the seaside. I didn't get her number, but I contacted my Wingman1's girl, and asked her to give me the number of my girl. After radio silence for most of the day, she just made up some bullshit excuse. I attacked immediately, telling that everything was beautiful last night, the Girl and I really connected, and now she is flaking. How come?!

After a lengthy exchange of messages, the girl finally typed "Look, she's just not interested in you, ok? Accept it."

I pondered it for days, even weeks. How? Why?

Now I know. Should have stopped being a pussy and escalated.

You CAN be clever, but don't be too clever. Also, don't be exclusively clever.

What works with those intellectual girls is a mix of clever and alpha. Yeah, impress her a bit, make her think you're not like the other guys (right, just like she isn't like the other girls), then move into player mode, kiss her, sway her off her feet, bang her.