Agreed. I also like #120, though.
Master thread for my book Game
I liked the one with the profile of a man in the suit, women turned towards him (albeit with their phones). It conveys that a man who puts himself and his mission first will attract women into his life, in spite of how otherwise distracted they may be. This I have found to be true and it started here years ago. Cheers to you, Roosh... and to the many outstanding gents I have met on my journey! Look forward to reading the new book.
"Civilization is man's project, man is woman's." - Illimitable Man, Maxim #104
Posting from somewhere close to the confluence of the Police State, the Entertainment Industry, and the New World Order.
I'd go with the black-and-white cover of the couple sitting under the tree. It fits with the shift in your writing towards more relationship-inclinded material.
HSLD
I don't know how anyone couldn't opt for the black and white one, it looks brilliant. Anyway...
OK, so I got a bit carried away. I do a lot of driving so wrote this in bits by taking notes as I listened. I’m writing the below as if I’m writing to anonymous potential customers, not to guys on the forum. Just a note as to my tone of voice etc.
First off, thanks for writing the book. It’s an excellent compendium of advice built from years and years of approaches, interactions, and relationships. This is not a political book, so therefore strays from what Roosh has written about more recently — though it does obviously lay out the political and cultural (smartphones, SJWism) changes that have altered the landscape considerably since the release of Bang, and as such the psychologies and strategies needed, both internally and externally, to improve your chances in 2018 and the coming years. He’s also honest that today is way worse than the years of Bang for sleeping with and dating women — in typical Roosh style it is full of sometimes depressing (but accurate) observations delivered in his dry-humoured, deadpan style. This is obviously more noticeable in the audiobook version, read by himself.
He goes over the evolution of game over time, as well as some funny anecdotes about his formative years (such as showing a virgin some hardcore porn in order to try and get her to loosen up… it failed). He also warns of doing game (once competent – which he classes as around 10 new girls from cold approach) for ego reasons rather than for healthy relationships. This is a time-worn 38/39 year old Roosh speaking from his own personal experience. He also reveals he has a 100+ notch count, which I believe is the first time he has said this publicly. The chapter on inner game/beliefs expands on some of the ego questions and might be incredibly informative to a beginner, but to anyone with intermediate game or familiarity with manosphere writing it’s fairly familiar stuff. There are self-help tidbits, but with his familiar neomasculine slant, and an interesting part about the power of autosuggestion/self-affirmations (most infamously used by Cus D’Amato to make Mike Tyson believe he was a living God). It’s a good chapter as it’s obvious you should always keep working on your internal game, no matter how long you’ve been aware of its importance.
The chapter on ‘Pre-Game’ was interesting, and something I’ve not seen in material by other well-respected game teachers. I’m not going to go into it here, you’ll need to buy the book yourself. It also made be laugh, since he discusses body hair at length (pun intended). It’s basically a section on how to optimise your look physically, and is a refreshing departure from the magic bullet ‘looks don’t matter at all’ spiel of some other game gurus.
The next chapter deals with what Roosh calls the three types of attraction:
• Pre-Minute (how she responds to your look and initial intro)
• Post Minute (how she responds to your stories and so on)
• Reputational (with the highest level being fame)
It’s in this section where I think a lot of his newer, perhaps younger readers who are used to him being a politics guy will have (if they didn’t already when he revealed he’s slept with over 100 women) a lightbulb moment of “oh yeah, he did actually make his name as a pick up artist, he really knows his stuff”. There’s an insecure v cocky thought patten sequence which would help a meeker guy starting out to begin to develop the attitude of a naturally confident man. To people who have followed his work or have been practically doing game before his forays into politics, a lot of the talk about ‘attraction triggers’ (confidence etc) and ‘attraction destroyers’ (being needy etc) are nothing new. But nevertheless, for a compendium of this nature, it’s important to include the basic game principle stuff — as well as his ‘Roosh Program’,* which is a step-by-step list of actions one must take to improve their dating prospects.
* I realised after writing the review that I’m not doing this chapter justice by simply mentioning that it exists. It’s very informative and far more expansive than his original blog post of the same name — with references to specific resources and materials (weight lifting books to help instruct correct techniques and comedy shows to improve your verbal dexterity) to guide you on your way.
The first half (technically first third because the approach/dating chapters are enormous) of the book, while interesting to listen to due to my familiarity with the author, is definitely aimed more at beginners — a category I don’t personally fall into. Which is fine, as it’s a very long book, and the later parts are definitely aimed at more experienced guys who want to refine/expand on what they already know. I just want to point out, that despite my apparent ‘criticism’ of these first five or six chapters being aimed at beginners, it’s not a negative — I’m absolutely confident they would find these invaluable. I’m just writing a review from my own perspective as someone who has been in the niche for some time and am used to the theories, methodologies, and most importantly (as he says himself in the ‘Roosh Program’ chapter), their practical application. If you’re new to this, this book — for the first half alone — is a must have.
The approaching and dating chapters are enormous and packed with info (the approach one alone is over 3 hours) — way too much for me to condense into this without it becoming an essay. There are the expected observations on changing dynamics, combined with in-depth instructional guidance. I listened to the approach chapter while driving to and from work over a couple of days and there’s so much info in there… from basic stuff for ‘newbies’, to more intermediate guys who want to work out where things might be going wrong here and there. It’s evident he’s been doing this an awfully long time, and even though I don’t like bars/nightclubs, it’s still good to have these strategies and psychological affirmations in my head should I find myself in such venues. It’s definitely a book that can be re-read/re-listened to, and referred back to like one might do with a textbook after a tricky exam. It's got good advice on daytime target selection, and his indirect daygame is excellent — he's probably the best as it out of the big name pick-up guys. His "girl voice", when playing out scenarios is hilarious. He's basically updated and refined Day Bang, cutting out what he now deems unnecessary, and adding what he feels is finer tuned. For beginners, he provides scripted lines, but encourages improving improvisational skills and being rather than acting.
His night game is similar to the 'direct game' of a famous direct-only PUA (you can probably guess who I'm referring to), and his associates, where it's actually more a sort of 'indirect-direct'... not opening with "Hi, you're hot", but an observation that's obvious you're hitting on the girl without going as far as to say it. "You look like X", "Your leather coat makes you seem Y", "The way you walked made me think of Z" etc. Which evolved from the earlier "I saw you and thought you looked nice" school of thought from years past. It’s interesting that Roosh doesn’t think this is as optimal during the day (he actually says so in the book), as it’s very similar to what he himself describes as his own direct daygame style. I.E Making an observation rather just throwing out a compliment etc. Despite coming from more of a UK-style ‘direct daygame’ background (though a little out of practice), it’s always interesting to listen to Roosh’s differing perspective, and I’m definitely going to experiment with ‘indirect’ again as a result of the book.
This would be my where my first genuine criticism of the book would come, it’s obviously heavily based on his life abroad, unlike Bang which was based on his DC experiences. So, Game may not be quite as relatable to Anglosphere-residing readers, since the hooks he often uses are based around him being not from there (though he says you can apply this to not coming from a particular US city for example), and some of his openers are based on his presumptions on a girl’s English levels. Nevertheless, it’s a minor gripe when weighed against the overall quality of the work as a whole. Later in the book, he uses examples of American girls, and offering to drive girls home, so this makes up for it to some extent. And, ultimately, present-day Polish girls aren’t a world away from American girls — a smartphone is a smartphone and a dating app a dating app.
Roosh’s text/messaging advice is great, and basically a great template to work from. Plus, there's some good tips like the 'flake defence'... and I'll certainly be sure never to say the phrase "let me know", ever again. Having been on the end of some of the things he talks about throughout these sections (haven't we all), it's always good to hear similar war stories and/or helpful hints to avoid (or at least lessen the chances) of it happening in the future. He also provides a helpful conversation framework, though again encourages you to craft your own. The sections on qualifications and teasing are awesome, and contain several laugh out loud moments as Roosh plays out conversation scenarios. To fellow readers, I’ll just say “foodie”, “soft marshmallow”, and “feel the power of my beard”. As in the approach section, there are lines for you to memorise should you be new to this, but even if you are, he encourages improvisation and self-authenticity, rather than mimicry. And he gives you extensive tips on how to achieve this.
There’s a chapter on sex /getting over last minute resistance... but I shall not be going into that here. I’ll just say it’s hilariously graphic (if you’ve read Poosy Paradise, you’ll be used to the type of language). Joking aside, towards the end of the chapter, there are some important points about sexual value, overcoming obstacles, navigating past the first date if you’re not initially successfully, as well as the beginnings of a more regular and or/serious sexual relationship. Throughout the book, I realised that Roosh's personality is a lot more similar to mine than other people who write this kind of material, which is why I'm eager to listen and implement the things he discusses.
The dating, and relationship chapters were most interesting and valuable for my current goals in life, and my level of game. While I’m competent at dates and so on, there were a few great ideas Roosh lays out that hadn’t crossed my mind before. The relationship chapter discusses the constant value battles that occcur in the beginning of particular flings or relationships, and I’m sure many readers will have found themselves in that situation of “I’ve ‘got’ the girl, now I can drop the game”… only for her to lose interest (attraction) incredibly quickly. If you haven’t learned your lesson, Roosh lays it down impeccably (though he does say, once in a 6 month+ relationship, if the real you sprinkled with a bit of game isn't enough.. then it's her problem and she can "fuck off", I agree). He explores not just building foundations, but building a life, how to maintain attraction well into a relationship, as well as ensuring you keep to your standards/boundaries. Some of it I thought was overly strict/critical, but he says that one may think that in the book. It’s the most serious chapter and one I really made sure to pay close attention to. Especially about how to set standards and show what you expect by critiquing her friends to her.
Following an overall and fitting conclusion, itself a great chapter in and of itself (albeit short, but it’s a conclusion so it’s rightfully succinct), there’s two bonus chapters based on social-circle game, as well as ‘love tourism’. I won’t go into any detail as I’m wary this is over 2200 words and certainly overly long for an Amazon review. I'll just say they're very worthy additions to what was a highly enjoyable listen, and I'll miss listening to this on my way to work and back.
The second half of the book was my favourite for the reasons laid out earlier in the review. Game is very densely packed, but as I had the audiobook I don’t know how it compares in physical size compared to other books in the genre. That said, its price point, when one considers the sheer wealth of information contained within, is incredibly reasonable compared to other stuff that’s out there. [Forum note: I suspect so based on Roosh’s usual pricing strategy on previous releases]
I highly recommend this book not just as a manual, but as an excellent overview of male-female dynamics in the current age. Being in my early-mid thirties and wanting to settle down fairly soon, much of the observations and concerns Roosh talks about I found highly relatable. So whether you’re an 18 year old who’s simply trying to meet a few girls because you’re frustrated at university, or you’re 38 and are looking for a younger, attractive, pleasant partner (or you’re somewhere in between, and I don’t mean age – I mean goals), I can almost guarantee you’ll find considerable value in Game. It’s also full of dry humour, which is sometimes laugh out loud funny, and you’ll want to re-read sections of it to properly remember certain tips and strategies. It’s Roosh’s final book on the topic, and possibly his magnum opus (as of now), but he’s got 20 years minimum of writing left, so I look forward to seeing where he goes next.
Conclusion: 9/10 WB (Would Buy).
Roosh: please let me know via PM if you’d like me to condense this so it’s maybe easier for amazon customers to read, if you think I’m being unfair with any critique etc, or if you’re happy as it is (and on which sites to post). Cheers mate, and thanks for letting me review the book.
OK, so I got a bit carried away. I do a lot of driving so wrote this in bits by taking notes as I listened. I’m writing the below as if I’m writing to anonymous potential customers, not to guys on the forum. Just a note as to my tone of voice etc.
First off, thanks for writing the book. It’s an excellent compendium of advice built from years and years of approaches, interactions, and relationships. This is not a political book, so therefore strays from what Roosh has written about more recently — though it does obviously lay out the political and cultural (smartphones, SJWism) changes that have altered the landscape considerably since the release of Bang, and as such the psychologies and strategies needed, both internally and externally, to improve your chances in 2018 and the coming years. He’s also honest that today is way worse than the years of Bang for sleeping with and dating women — in typical Roosh style it is full of sometimes depressing (but accurate) observations delivered in his dry-humoured, deadpan style. This is obviously more noticeable in the audiobook version, read by himself.
He goes over the evolution of game over time, as well as some funny anecdotes about his formative years (such as showing a virgin some hardcore porn in order to try and get her to loosen up… it failed). He also warns of doing game (once competent – which he classes as around 10 new girls from cold approach) for ego reasons rather than for healthy relationships. This is a time-worn 38/39 year old Roosh speaking from his own personal experience. He also reveals he has a 100+ notch count, which I believe is the first time he has said this publicly. The chapter on inner game/beliefs expands on some of the ego questions and might be incredibly informative to a beginner, but to anyone with intermediate game or familiarity with manosphere writing it’s fairly familiar stuff. There are self-help tidbits, but with his familiar neomasculine slant, and an interesting part about the power of autosuggestion/self-affirmations (most infamously used by Cus D’Amato to make Mike Tyson believe he was a living God). It’s a good chapter as it’s obvious you should always keep working on your internal game, no matter how long you’ve been aware of its importance.
The chapter on ‘Pre-Game’ was interesting, and something I’ve not seen in material by other well-respected game teachers. I’m not going to go into it here, you’ll need to buy the book yourself. It also made be laugh, since he discusses body hair at length (pun intended). It’s basically a section on how to optimise your look physically, and is a refreshing departure from the magic bullet ‘looks don’t matter at all’ spiel of some other game gurus.
The next chapter deals with what Roosh calls the three types of attraction:
• Pre-Minute (how she responds to your look and initial intro)
• Post Minute (how she responds to your stories and so on)
• Reputational (with the highest level being fame)
It’s in this section where I think a lot of his newer, perhaps younger readers who are used to him being a politics guy will have (if they didn’t already when he revealed he’s slept with over 100 women) a lightbulb moment of “oh yeah, he did actually make his name as a pick up artist, he really knows his stuff”. There’s an insecure v cocky thought patten sequence which would help a meeker guy starting out to begin to develop the attitude of a naturally confident man. To people who have followed his work or have been practically doing game before his forays into politics, a lot of the talk about ‘attraction triggers’ (confidence etc) and ‘attraction destroyers’ (being needy etc) are nothing new. But nevertheless, for a compendium of this nature, it’s important to include the basic game principle stuff — as well as his ‘Roosh Program’,* which is a step-by-step list of actions one must take to improve their dating prospects.
* I realised after writing the review that I’m not doing this chapter justice by simply mentioning that it exists. It’s very informative and far more expansive than his original blog post of the same name — with references to specific resources and materials (weight lifting books to help instruct correct techniques and comedy shows to improve your verbal dexterity) to guide you on your way.
The first half (technically first third because the approach/dating chapters are enormous) of the book, while interesting to listen to due to my familiarity with the author, is definitely aimed more at beginners — a category I don’t personally fall into. Which is fine, as it’s a very long book, and the later parts are definitely aimed at more experienced guys who want to refine/expand on what they already know. I just want to point out, that despite my apparent ‘criticism’ of these first five or six chapters being aimed at beginners, it’s not a negative — I’m absolutely confident they would find these invaluable. I’m just writing a review from my own perspective as someone who has been in the niche for some time and am used to the theories, methodologies, and most importantly (as he says himself in the ‘Roosh Program’ chapter), their practical application. If you’re new to this, this book — for the first half alone — is a must have.
The approaching and dating chapters are enormous and packed with info (the approach one alone is over 3 hours) — way too much for me to condense into this without it becoming an essay. There are the expected observations on changing dynamics, combined with in-depth instructional guidance. I listened to the approach chapter while driving to and from work over a couple of days and there’s so much info in there… from basic stuff for ‘newbies’, to more intermediate guys who want to work out where things might be going wrong here and there. It’s evident he’s been doing this an awfully long time, and even though I don’t like bars/nightclubs, it’s still good to have these strategies and psychological affirmations in my head should I find myself in such venues. It’s definitely a book that can be re-read/re-listened to, and referred back to like one might do with a textbook after a tricky exam. It's got good advice on daytime target selection, and his indirect daygame is excellent — he's probably the best as it out of the big name pick-up guys. His "girl voice", when playing out scenarios is hilarious. He's basically updated and refined Day Bang, cutting out what he now deems unnecessary, and adding what he feels is finer tuned. For beginners, he provides scripted lines, but encourages improving improvisational skills and being rather than acting.
His night game is similar to the 'direct game' of a famous direct-only PUA (you can probably guess who I'm referring to), and his associates, where it's actually more a sort of 'indirect-direct'... not opening with "Hi, you're hot", but an observation that's obvious you're hitting on the girl without going as far as to say it. "You look like X", "Your leather coat makes you seem Y", "The way you walked made me think of Z" etc. Which evolved from the earlier "I saw you and thought you looked nice" school of thought from years past. It’s interesting that Roosh doesn’t think this is as optimal during the day (he actually says so in the book), as it’s very similar to what he himself describes as his own direct daygame style. I.E Making an observation rather just throwing out a compliment etc. Despite coming from more of a UK-style ‘direct daygame’ background (though a little out of practice), it’s always interesting to listen to Roosh’s differing perspective, and I’m definitely going to experiment with ‘indirect’ again as a result of the book.
This would be my where my first genuine criticism of the book would come, it’s obviously heavily based on his life abroad, unlike Bang which was based on his DC experiences. So, Game may not be quite as relatable to Anglosphere-residing readers, since the hooks he often uses are based around him being not from there (though he says you can apply this to not coming from a particular US city for example), and some of his openers are based on his presumptions on a girl’s English levels. Nevertheless, it’s a minor gripe when weighed against the overall quality of the work as a whole. Later in the book, he uses examples of American girls, and offering to drive girls home, so this makes up for it to some extent. And, ultimately, present-day Polish girls aren’t a world away from American girls — a smartphone is a smartphone and a dating app a dating app.
Roosh’s text/messaging advice is great, and basically a great template to work from. Plus, there's some good tips like the 'flake defence'... and I'll certainly be sure never to say the phrase "let me know", ever again. Having been on the end of some of the things he talks about throughout these sections (haven't we all), it's always good to hear similar war stories and/or helpful hints to avoid (or at least lessen the chances) of it happening in the future. He also provides a helpful conversation framework, though again encourages you to craft your own. The sections on qualifications and teasing are awesome, and contain several laugh out loud moments as Roosh plays out conversation scenarios. To fellow readers, I’ll just say “foodie”, “soft marshmallow”, and “feel the power of my beard”. As in the approach section, there are lines for you to memorise should you be new to this, but even if you are, he encourages improvisation and self-authenticity, rather than mimicry. And he gives you extensive tips on how to achieve this.
There’s a chapter on sex /getting over last minute resistance... but I shall not be going into that here. I’ll just say it’s hilariously graphic (if you’ve read Poosy Paradise, you’ll be used to the type of language). Joking aside, towards the end of the chapter, there are some important points about sexual value, overcoming obstacles, navigating past the first date if you’re not initially successfully, as well as the beginnings of a more regular and or/serious sexual relationship. Throughout the book, I realised that Roosh's personality is a lot more similar to mine than other people who write this kind of material, which is why I'm eager to listen and implement the things he discusses.
The dating, and relationship chapters were most interesting and valuable for my current goals in life, and my level of game. While I’m competent at dates and so on, there were a few great ideas Roosh lays out that hadn’t crossed my mind before. The relationship chapter discusses the constant value battles that occcur in the beginning of particular flings or relationships, and I’m sure many readers will have found themselves in that situation of “I’ve ‘got’ the girl, now I can drop the game”… only for her to lose interest (attraction) incredibly quickly. If you haven’t learned your lesson, Roosh lays it down impeccably (though he does say, once in a 6 month+ relationship, if the real you sprinkled with a bit of game isn't enough.. then it's her problem and she can "fuck off", I agree). He explores not just building foundations, but building a life, how to maintain attraction well into a relationship, as well as ensuring you keep to your standards/boundaries. Some of it I thought was overly strict/critical, but he says that one may think that in the book. It’s the most serious chapter and one I really made sure to pay close attention to. Especially about how to set standards and show what you expect by critiquing her friends to her.
Following an overall and fitting conclusion, itself a great chapter in and of itself (albeit short, but it’s a conclusion so it’s rightfully succinct), there’s two bonus chapters based on social-circle game, as well as ‘love tourism’. I won’t go into any detail as I’m wary this is over 2200 words and certainly overly long for an Amazon review. I'll just say they're very worthy additions to what was a highly enjoyable listen, and I'll miss listening to this on my way to work and back.
The second half of the book was my favourite for the reasons laid out earlier in the review. Game is very densely packed, but as I had the audiobook I don’t know how it compares in physical size compared to other books in the genre. That said, its price point, when one considers the sheer wealth of information contained within, is incredibly reasonable compared to other stuff that’s out there. [Forum note: I suspect so based on Roosh’s usual pricing strategy on previous releases]
I highly recommend this book not just as a manual, but as an excellent overview of male-female dynamics in the current age. Being in my early-mid thirties and wanting to settle down fairly soon, much of the observations and concerns Roosh talks about I found highly relatable. So whether you’re an 18 year old who’s simply trying to meet a few girls because you’re frustrated at university, or you’re 38 and are looking for a younger, attractive, pleasant partner (or you’re somewhere in between, and I don’t mean age – I mean goals), I can almost guarantee you’ll find considerable value in Game. It’s also full of dry humour, which is sometimes laugh out loud funny, and you’ll want to re-read sections of it to properly remember certain tips and strategies. It’s Roosh’s final book on the topic, and possibly his magnum opus (as of now), but he’s got 20 years minimum of writing left, so I look forward to seeing where he goes next.
Conclusion: 9/10 WB (Would Buy).
Roosh: please let me know via PM if you’d like me to condense this so it’s maybe easier for amazon customers to read, if you think I’m being unfair with any critique etc, or if you’re happy as it is (and on which sites to post). Cheers mate, and thanks for letting me review the book.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H L Mencken
I like #104 as a 5/5, and #105 and #120 as a 4/5.
Quote: (08-15-2018 09:09 AM)Roosh Wrote:
The final cover designs for my book Game are in!
Vote on the one you like the best: https://99designs.com/contests/poll/ef91a5499b
They are all good designs, so no real way to lose.
#104 and #105 only have one girl, so, might lead to assumption it is about relationships only. Agree that the black and white one is an aesthetically pleasing one, though maybe not for a game book.
#118 and #112 are both good. Black and red are colors that promise excitement and intensity. Passion. Of the two, nod goes to #118 because of the cocky pose of the male.
I like #120 the best because it is the coolest both in color and design. City skyline, massive moon in the back. Two women striding towards one man. The splash of red in the female figures indicates passion as well as being a bold and unusual design choice. (Compare it to how color is used less decisively in #104.) The man in silhouette, arms crossed, is in control, central, with the city and the moon, symbol of a woman's unconscious impulses, as background to him.
I would rather buy a cool colored blue book than something romantic or flashy and bright.
“The greatest burden a child must bear is the unlived life of its parents.”
Carl Jung
Teedub: Thank you for your in-depth review! So the book doesn't suck, phew. ![[Image: smile.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I'm glad you like my "female voice actor". When recording the sex chapter, I had to stop a couple dozen times because I kept laughing.
Do you think the audiobook, because of its length, needs to have a book companion to really digest the information? I don't listen to audiobooks, so I wonder if you can really extract the most out of Game from one.
I'm glad you like my "female voice actor". When recording the sex chapter, I had to stop a couple dozen times because I kept laughing.
Do you think the audiobook, because of its length, needs to have a book companion to really digest the information? I don't listen to audiobooks, so I wonder if you can really extract the most out of Game from one.
Roosh
http://www.rooshv.com
Quote: (08-15-2018 02:33 PM)Roosh Wrote:
Teedub: Thank you for your in-depth review! So the book doesn't suck, phew.
I'm glad you like my "female voice actor". When recording the sex chapter, I had to stop a couple dozen times because I kept laughing.
Do you think the audiobook, because of its length, needs to have a book companion to really digest the information? I don't listen to audiobooks, so I wonder if you can really extract the most out of Game from one.
No worries man, my pleasure. Haha I wondered whether you had any outtakes because some of it was hilarious.
I don't like novels on audiobook, but I like autobiographies (even when not read by the actual person - Mike Tyson's was excellent) and some non-fiction. I absorb information better than way than via reading it seems. Hence why I could drive home and remember what you'd said and put it into the review. If I'd read for an hour rather than listening for 2... it wouldn't be the same. I think I tend to read too quickly in an effort to finish the book like an achievement, whereas with audio I have to be patient. I can't speak for others, but I definitely can get the most out of an audiobook.
Though I'll buy the physical copy also (plus, to financially support your work). Because there's some specific bits I'd like to refer back to and it's easier in book form. So perhaps you're right with books like this. I think I'll re-listen though so after going over certain chapters a few times, it should be enough. The book definitely doesn't suck!
Quick question: are the reviews on this thread more for you, so you make last minute edits/additions, or is it so you can see ones that will go on book sites?
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H L Mencken
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Quick question: are the reviews on this thread more for you, so you make last minute edits/additions, or is it so you can see ones that will go on book sites?
The reviews are for others who are considering buying the book. I don't ask people to edit the reviews.
Roosh
http://www.rooshv.com
Submitted some thoughts on covers
It seems most of us are on the same page for the winner
It seems most of us are on the same page for the winner
Looking forward to reading this!
Quote: (08-15-2018 06:02 PM)Roosh Wrote:
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Quick question: are the reviews on this thread more for you, so you make last minute edits/additions, or is it so you can see ones that will go on book sites?
The reviews are for others who are considering buying the book. I don't ask people to edit the reviews.
Oh, I meant edits to the actual book, not to the reviews. )
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H L Mencken
I want to start this review by saying I'm impressed with the sheer length and volume of the material presented here. Roosh wasn't kidding when he said this was going to contain a lot of information. Roosh manages to present the data in this book in a very engaging, entertaining manner. Roosh's background as a scientist shows clear influence in the way this information is presented. I appreciated this, being more of a right-brained type of person, because it highlighted lots of subtle things I had subconsciecely noticed but hadn't connected the dots on until it was spelled out the way Roosh has done here. It is self evident that he has spent thousands of hours into this research and experimentation, all of which lines up perfectly with my experiences with women in regards to what has worked and what hasn't.
In this book, Roosh communicates a completely non-emotional, results-neutral take on the entire modern dating scene; an increasingly rare viewpoint on this subject matter in the context we have come to understand it. He describes, diagnoses, and prescribes helpful information for any man in the game no matter where they are at with it.
In addition, I have a greater appreciation of Roosh's sense of humor after listening to this audiobook, as his dryness comes through even more here. There's passages where you can tell he is trying not to laugh. His imitation of a girl's voice got many laughs from me while listening.
This book is truly a catch-all game resource. There isn't a single aspect of seduction and long-term game that Roosh hasn't explored here. There is advice for every man, at every level of game that is actionable and easy to implement.
In the chapter on 'pre-game' Roosh's body hair grooming standards and techniques almost matched mine to a T , so I completely co-sign on his judgement of how a man should present himself. He correctly identifies modern women's superficiality without focusing on it or giving it too much weight.
Roosh covers everything from inner game approaching, texting, escalating, closing, and relationship management, training your woman, the importance of holding to your standards as well as social circle game and 'love tourism'.
Despite the fact that the material is conveyed in Roosh's tried and true dry tone, it still flows nicely. It is engaging enough to not bore the listener even though the material is academic in nature. Roosh focuses on the subject matter without deviation, and not a single line in the book is filler.
Personally I found the chapter on Internal Game to be the most profound. This chapter is so important! Regardless of your game goals, the information contained here is a must listen (or must read) for any man at any level of game or life.
In this chapter, Roosh emphasizes the importance of having a positive belief system, and goes about explaining how to program oneself with such a mindset by using autosuggestion and positive affirmations. It's so easy to overlook the importance of a positive belief system and adopt a negative mindset, which Roosh points out here. He notes how common that is among men in the game which for me, was both comforting and eye opening. Roosh lists off 7 core beliefs to assist you in your efforts to program your mind to think like a player. However, the way he reads off the beliefs and explanations was confusing and I had to rewind and listen again to write them down. It would have been easier if he had numbered them, or listed them all of at once before going into specifics about them.
The segment on texting was great. So many guys get hung up on their text game (myself included) but I'm confident if you follow the texting guidelines he provides you're likely to save yourself from wasting time on leads that will likely go nowhere.
My criticism of this part of the audiobook was that his voice sounded a bit rushed, cracked a few times and you can hear him breathing in and out more than in the other portions of the book which were much smoother.
The part of the audiobook focusing on sex itself had me laughing a bit, because it is hilariously specific.
Overall, this is an up to date, well informed book that anyone would benefit from reading, regardless of your level of experience in life or with women. I give it 9/10.
In this book, Roosh communicates a completely non-emotional, results-neutral take on the entire modern dating scene; an increasingly rare viewpoint on this subject matter in the context we have come to understand it. He describes, diagnoses, and prescribes helpful information for any man in the game no matter where they are at with it.
In addition, I have a greater appreciation of Roosh's sense of humor after listening to this audiobook, as his dryness comes through even more here. There's passages where you can tell he is trying not to laugh. His imitation of a girl's voice got many laughs from me while listening.
This book is truly a catch-all game resource. There isn't a single aspect of seduction and long-term game that Roosh hasn't explored here. There is advice for every man, at every level of game that is actionable and easy to implement.
In the chapter on 'pre-game' Roosh's body hair grooming standards and techniques almost matched mine to a T , so I completely co-sign on his judgement of how a man should present himself. He correctly identifies modern women's superficiality without focusing on it or giving it too much weight.
Roosh covers everything from inner game approaching, texting, escalating, closing, and relationship management, training your woman, the importance of holding to your standards as well as social circle game and 'love tourism'.
Despite the fact that the material is conveyed in Roosh's tried and true dry tone, it still flows nicely. It is engaging enough to not bore the listener even though the material is academic in nature. Roosh focuses on the subject matter without deviation, and not a single line in the book is filler.
Personally I found the chapter on Internal Game to be the most profound. This chapter is so important! Regardless of your game goals, the information contained here is a must listen (or must read) for any man at any level of game or life.
In this chapter, Roosh emphasizes the importance of having a positive belief system, and goes about explaining how to program oneself with such a mindset by using autosuggestion and positive affirmations. It's so easy to overlook the importance of a positive belief system and adopt a negative mindset, which Roosh points out here. He notes how common that is among men in the game which for me, was both comforting and eye opening. Roosh lists off 7 core beliefs to assist you in your efforts to program your mind to think like a player. However, the way he reads off the beliefs and explanations was confusing and I had to rewind and listen again to write them down. It would have been easier if he had numbered them, or listed them all of at once before going into specifics about them.
The segment on texting was great. So many guys get hung up on their text game (myself included) but I'm confident if you follow the texting guidelines he provides you're likely to save yourself from wasting time on leads that will likely go nowhere.
My criticism of this part of the audiobook was that his voice sounded a bit rushed, cracked a few times and you can hear him breathing in and out more than in the other portions of the book which were much smoother.
The part of the audiobook focusing on sex itself had me laughing a bit, because it is hilariously specific.
Overall, this is an up to date, well informed book that anyone would benefit from reading, regardless of your level of experience in life or with women. I give it 9/10.
"Does PUA say that I just need to get to f-close base first here and some weird chemicals will be released in her brain to make her a better person?"
-Wonitis
I liked how all of the covers looked, Roosh. Can't wait to buy it and read it.
I just wanna know if there will be more Roosh Video Ads like this:
I decided to go for the black and white cover with the couple sitting under the tree. Emotionally, it spoke to me the most. After all my years banging, it's the pleasant moments with a girl I cared about that stay with me the most.
Roosh
http://www.rooshv.com
Quote: (08-17-2018 08:06 AM)Roosh Wrote:
I decided to go for the black and white cover with the couple sitting under the tree. Emotionally, it spoke to me the most. After all my years banging, it's the pleasant moments with a girl I cared about that stay with me the most.
Good choice Roosh. The others are ok, but the tree cover is really great.
Quote: (08-17-2018 08:06 AM)Roosh Wrote:
I decided to go for the black and white cover with the couple sitting under the tree. Emotionally, it spoke to me the most. After all my years banging, it's the pleasant moments with a girl I cared about that stay with me the most.
Excellent choice, for all the reasons scorpion said. I hope it does really well Roosh. As an aside, it's also a great cover since it represents the antithesis of the anti-family, male v female fire stoking far left.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H L Mencken
Roosh, I will be interested in reading your section about self affirmations, in this book. That is something that is interesting to me, right now.
My review of Game:
As a reader of Roosh’s earlier work, including his widely acclaimed “Bang” and “Day Bang”, I looked very forward to his newest release. As a young man, I can credit his earlier works with significantly helping me in not only improving my game with women, but also increasing my confidence in everyday interactions with others. “Game” is a natural progression and update from these earlier works, complete with revamped techniques and in-depth situational understanding from first meeting all the way to building relationships with women and beyond.
The first thing that is strikingly clear is that Roosh’s tone has matured over the years, obviously with an additional decade of experience in the game and by consistent trial by fire. The book starts out in almost a “jaded” tone, one of a man that has been through the ringer of thousands of interactions with women (you know that you are dealing with the real deal). The book could have easily kept a darker voice, talking about the downfall of women, how girls are becoming unbearably slutty, or that the sexual marketplace is completely skewed to the 1% of alpha males, but it doesn’t; it becomes the guide that every young man should have on his bookshelf, and a resource for all men that are wondering about intimate relationships with females.
“Game” starts out by introducing game and how it improves the life of men. This segues into talking about internal game, which I will mention at length because even for men in committed relationships with no intention of leaving, this is a must read, and it is probably worth the price of this book alone.
Too often when talking about internalizations and mental fortitude, there are “pie in the sky” idealized suggestions from the author. Roosh completely obliterates this with actionable advice, mantras to repeat to yourself on a daily basis, and confidence boosters for men that are living in a society that is bent on destroying masculinity. The psychology and belief systems that are presented in this section rival that of some of the most prolific self-help books of the last 10-20 years. A decade ago, being a shy kid with no idea how to talk to women, this would have been an absolute Godsend, and if you are picking this book up as a teenager, this section will put you miles ahead of any but the most self-confident (and likely delusional) young men. The lessons learned from this section will carry over into every facet of your life, from friendships to business, and this should be on a must-read list for men in 2018.
Carrying on, Roosh talks about pre-game, which is essentially getting yourself into a physically attractive state so that you can succeed with the women of today. He goes over working out, manscaping, dressing well, and alleviating glaring faults in your appearance so that you can deal with the most shallow generation of people that have ever lived. I think this section is overlooked by some game “purists” as they believe that game is the end all be all. But in 2018, it is obvious that being attractive gives you a leg up on the competition, and this book is about giving yourself advantages over the vast mediocrity that permeates the men of today. I personally believe that being in your best shape is a substantial differentiator today, and that it’s not exceptionally hard to set yourself apart from the crowd with the advice that Roosh provides in this section.
It has to be noted that this book provides some of the most actionable advice you will see in any literature about meeting women. “The Roosh Program” is a literal step by step guide to taking you from zero to hero in meeting women, gaining your bearings in the world of game, getting into decent physical shape, and getting better as a man on a daily basis. Obviously in life, nothing works unless you do, but by adhering to this program, I think any man can make himself comfortable with approaching women, get into better shape, and likely be happier. For veterans, the initial 1/3 of the book is a recap of what most of the experienced know and have internalized. However, this book is clearly a field manual for all men of all game levels. I believe that this book could take a virgin from inability to talk to women to getting his first 10 bangs. The book lays out very clearly what you need to do, it is on you to do it.
The sections on approaching, dating, and sex are also extremely well done, all with content that covers from beginning to end in so many scenarios that your head will spin. I think even veterans will take a lot of value from these sections, and the hilarious part is that you will likely encounter most if not all of these scenarios in your dating life. I found myself chuckling and nodding my head at some of the shit tests (as I’ve faced identical ones before), and the responses to said shit tests are excellent. I would caution men about one thing: create your own style, as Roosh advises. Don’t just go and use lines from this book, because you will end up “robotic”. Use them to begin with, and develop your own style, your own lines, and actually enjoy the interactions and intimacy that come with them (Bravo Roosh for pointing this out, as most authors would simply say “use these lines and see what happens”).
The latter part of the book is applicable to men in relationships, and those that are getting into a relationship. This section needs to be ingrained into all men to avoid the marriage/divorce trap of the 21st century. The information in this section goes against the indoctrination of the “man up” culture we live in the West, and is probably the single greatest shift in mentality a man can make in relationships. Avoiding emotional manipulation and the traps that women lay in relationships is discussed at length and the intel is exceptionally valuable. You will not get this advice anywhere else. Changing from being the chaser to the chased, the guy wanting the prize to becoming the prize is absolute power.
The two additional appendix sections are also not to be glossed over, as they are highly value providing for those in the social circle crowd (younger men in highschool and college) and those that are beginning their travels overseas to meet and seduce foreign women. I personally would have loved to see advice on social circle game when I was a little younger, and those that get their hands on this book in the 18-24 range will benefit greatly from this appendix section. The traveling section gives deeply actionable advice on logistics, meeting women, and creating relationships as a man outside his home country. I look forward to applying this to my own travels.
The parts of the book that need to be discussed are where Roosh mentions happiness, hedonism, and finding your own happiness, because this deeply connected with me. As a young man, you will want to get out and meet as many women as you can, have sex with them, and then repeat. And, you should. However, Roosh talks about what actually brings happiness in life, that emotional connections are truly what matters, and the burn out that comes with chasing women that he has experienced. You may be just getting into game and overlook this, but come back and read the book in 5 years: you will value this immensely. After 1000’s of interactions, Roosh has seen it all, and by heeding his advice here, I probably would have saved myself some heartache and focused on what matters. Vapid sluts are fun, but you do not find meaning in them, and I implore you to take note of these parts in this book, because you will cherish them for the rest of your life.
Roosh’s humour is dry yet satisfying, and in the print copy, I found myself laughing at various points. I’ve been told that the audio book is narrated by Roosh himself, and after reading the ebook, I will probably buy the audio version just to hear him narrate the female voice in multiple sections of the book. Game is extremely dense for being around 350 pages. You will not go more than 30 seconds without getting significant knowledge dropped on you. I think Roosh could have easily made this book 1000 pages from personal experiences and stories (which I would have liked to see a few more of after reading some of his books like “A Dead Bat in Paraguay”), but the book is direct to the point, and as someone getting into game for the first time, you will value his brevity and approach.
This book, for me, not only includes advice on building intimate relationships, but also on bettering myself as a man in a world that is progressively demonizing men. The deep psychology, the mentality shift that you will get from reading this book, and the betterment that will come by taking the actions laid out for you by Roosh will completely shift your life in a positive direction. It’s not easy to be a young man in 2018, but by reading this book, you will set yourself apart from the pack of soy and estrogen ridden “men” that think attracting women involves acting like one. You would not believe how much of the book I high-lighted for future reference. I would highly recommend that men of all levels of game get this book. If you want to meet women in 2018, you need Game by Roosh Obama.
As a reader of Roosh’s earlier work, including his widely acclaimed “Bang” and “Day Bang”, I looked very forward to his newest release. As a young man, I can credit his earlier works with significantly helping me in not only improving my game with women, but also increasing my confidence in everyday interactions with others. “Game” is a natural progression and update from these earlier works, complete with revamped techniques and in-depth situational understanding from first meeting all the way to building relationships with women and beyond.
The first thing that is strikingly clear is that Roosh’s tone has matured over the years, obviously with an additional decade of experience in the game and by consistent trial by fire. The book starts out in almost a “jaded” tone, one of a man that has been through the ringer of thousands of interactions with women (you know that you are dealing with the real deal). The book could have easily kept a darker voice, talking about the downfall of women, how girls are becoming unbearably slutty, or that the sexual marketplace is completely skewed to the 1% of alpha males, but it doesn’t; it becomes the guide that every young man should have on his bookshelf, and a resource for all men that are wondering about intimate relationships with females.
“Game” starts out by introducing game and how it improves the life of men. This segues into talking about internal game, which I will mention at length because even for men in committed relationships with no intention of leaving, this is a must read, and it is probably worth the price of this book alone.
Too often when talking about internalizations and mental fortitude, there are “pie in the sky” idealized suggestions from the author. Roosh completely obliterates this with actionable advice, mantras to repeat to yourself on a daily basis, and confidence boosters for men that are living in a society that is bent on destroying masculinity. The psychology and belief systems that are presented in this section rival that of some of the most prolific self-help books of the last 10-20 years. A decade ago, being a shy kid with no idea how to talk to women, this would have been an absolute Godsend, and if you are picking this book up as a teenager, this section will put you miles ahead of any but the most self-confident (and likely delusional) young men. The lessons learned from this section will carry over into every facet of your life, from friendships to business, and this should be on a must-read list for men in 2018.
Carrying on, Roosh talks about pre-game, which is essentially getting yourself into a physically attractive state so that you can succeed with the women of today. He goes over working out, manscaping, dressing well, and alleviating glaring faults in your appearance so that you can deal with the most shallow generation of people that have ever lived. I think this section is overlooked by some game “purists” as they believe that game is the end all be all. But in 2018, it is obvious that being attractive gives you a leg up on the competition, and this book is about giving yourself advantages over the vast mediocrity that permeates the men of today. I personally believe that being in your best shape is a substantial differentiator today, and that it’s not exceptionally hard to set yourself apart from the crowd with the advice that Roosh provides in this section.
It has to be noted that this book provides some of the most actionable advice you will see in any literature about meeting women. “The Roosh Program” is a literal step by step guide to taking you from zero to hero in meeting women, gaining your bearings in the world of game, getting into decent physical shape, and getting better as a man on a daily basis. Obviously in life, nothing works unless you do, but by adhering to this program, I think any man can make himself comfortable with approaching women, get into better shape, and likely be happier. For veterans, the initial 1/3 of the book is a recap of what most of the experienced know and have internalized. However, this book is clearly a field manual for all men of all game levels. I believe that this book could take a virgin from inability to talk to women to getting his first 10 bangs. The book lays out very clearly what you need to do, it is on you to do it.
The sections on approaching, dating, and sex are also extremely well done, all with content that covers from beginning to end in so many scenarios that your head will spin. I think even veterans will take a lot of value from these sections, and the hilarious part is that you will likely encounter most if not all of these scenarios in your dating life. I found myself chuckling and nodding my head at some of the shit tests (as I’ve faced identical ones before), and the responses to said shit tests are excellent. I would caution men about one thing: create your own style, as Roosh advises. Don’t just go and use lines from this book, because you will end up “robotic”. Use them to begin with, and develop your own style, your own lines, and actually enjoy the interactions and intimacy that come with them (Bravo Roosh for pointing this out, as most authors would simply say “use these lines and see what happens”).
The latter part of the book is applicable to men in relationships, and those that are getting into a relationship. This section needs to be ingrained into all men to avoid the marriage/divorce trap of the 21st century. The information in this section goes against the indoctrination of the “man up” culture we live in the West, and is probably the single greatest shift in mentality a man can make in relationships. Avoiding emotional manipulation and the traps that women lay in relationships is discussed at length and the intel is exceptionally valuable. You will not get this advice anywhere else. Changing from being the chaser to the chased, the guy wanting the prize to becoming the prize is absolute power.
The two additional appendix sections are also not to be glossed over, as they are highly value providing for those in the social circle crowd (younger men in highschool and college) and those that are beginning their travels overseas to meet and seduce foreign women. I personally would have loved to see advice on social circle game when I was a little younger, and those that get their hands on this book in the 18-24 range will benefit greatly from this appendix section. The traveling section gives deeply actionable advice on logistics, meeting women, and creating relationships as a man outside his home country. I look forward to applying this to my own travels.
The parts of the book that need to be discussed are where Roosh mentions happiness, hedonism, and finding your own happiness, because this deeply connected with me. As a young man, you will want to get out and meet as many women as you can, have sex with them, and then repeat. And, you should. However, Roosh talks about what actually brings happiness in life, that emotional connections are truly what matters, and the burn out that comes with chasing women that he has experienced. You may be just getting into game and overlook this, but come back and read the book in 5 years: you will value this immensely. After 1000’s of interactions, Roosh has seen it all, and by heeding his advice here, I probably would have saved myself some heartache and focused on what matters. Vapid sluts are fun, but you do not find meaning in them, and I implore you to take note of these parts in this book, because you will cherish them for the rest of your life.
Roosh’s humour is dry yet satisfying, and in the print copy, I found myself laughing at various points. I’ve been told that the audio book is narrated by Roosh himself, and after reading the ebook, I will probably buy the audio version just to hear him narrate the female voice in multiple sections of the book. Game is extremely dense for being around 350 pages. You will not go more than 30 seconds without getting significant knowledge dropped on you. I think Roosh could have easily made this book 1000 pages from personal experiences and stories (which I would have liked to see a few more of after reading some of his books like “A Dead Bat in Paraguay”), but the book is direct to the point, and as someone getting into game for the first time, you will value his brevity and approach.
This book, for me, not only includes advice on building intimate relationships, but also on bettering myself as a man in a world that is progressively demonizing men. The deep psychology, the mentality shift that you will get from reading this book, and the betterment that will come by taking the actions laid out for you by Roosh will completely shift your life in a positive direction. It’s not easy to be a young man in 2018, but by reading this book, you will set yourself apart from the pack of soy and estrogen ridden “men” that think attracting women involves acting like one. You would not believe how much of the book I high-lighted for future reference. I would highly recommend that men of all levels of game get this book. If you want to meet women in 2018, you need Game by Roosh Obama.
"Money over bitches, nigga stick to the script." - Jay-Z
They gonna love me for my ambition.
^^ Thanks for the review, and others who have left them so far too.
Not only emotional connections, but ones where you are not wearing a heavy mask. In this book, I tried to teach game where you can be as close to your real self as possible, while still achieving intimacy. It's a tough balance.
Quote:Quote:
However, Roosh talks about what actually brings happiness in life, that emotional connections are truly what matters, and the burn out that comes with chasing women that he has experienced.
Not only emotional connections, but ones where you are not wearing a heavy mask. In this book, I tried to teach game where you can be as close to your real self as possible, while still achieving intimacy. It's a tough balance.
Roosh
http://www.rooshv.com
Quote: (08-18-2018 06:18 AM)Roosh Wrote:
^^ Thanks for the review, and others who have left them so far too.
Quote:Quote:
However, Roosh talks about what actually brings happiness in life, that emotional connections are truly what matters, and the burn out that comes with chasing women that he has experienced.
Not only emotional connections, but ones where you are not wearing a heavy mask. In this book, I tried to teach game where you can be as close to your real self as possible, while still achieving intimacy. It's a tough balance.
Looking forward to this.
Okay here is the final cover. Two changes that made it less romantic: removed the birds and made the man look straight ahead. It now seems like the girl is doting over him, which is ideal.
![[Image: attachment.jpg39775]](https://rooshvforum.network/attachments/attachment.jpg39775)
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