[WalterBlack]

'Feminism is sexist': The women backing Brazil's Bolsonaro

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Jair Bolsonaro is one of the most controversial politicians in recent Brazilian history.

The far-right candidate, who has a wide lead in the polls ahead of the second round in Brazil's presidential election, is a man who speaks his mind. And he has revealed his homophobic, sexist and racist viewpoints while doing so.

His supporters have brushed his comments off as bad but innocent jokes or have simply dismissed reports of his more controversial remarks as fake news.

The list of offensive statements he has made is long. He certainly likes to stir. He told a congresswoman she "did not deserve to be raped" because she was "too ugly".

He has justified why women earn less than men by saying they are expensive to employ because they continue to draw a salary while on maternity leave.

He even said that the birth of his daughter had "made him weaker".
Reverse effect

They are comments that experts thought would make it hard for Mr Bolsonaro to win over the female electorate. But they were wrong.

The most recent opinion poll by Datafolha suggested 43% of female voters would vote for Mr Bolsonaro, compared to 39% who said they would vote for his rival, the Workers' Party candidate, Fernando Haddad.

"There are women who hate him but we love him," says Carina Soledade, a mother of three who works as a secretary in a fertility clinic.



"He's a man of a certain age, he's a military man, he's explosive. But that's him. Lots of things people accuse him of saying are twisted by the media."

One of his more active and outspoken supporters is Vanessa Pacheco. The 27-year-old radiology technician set up a Facebook page in early September called Women with Bolsonaro, which she says has two million members.

As the group is private, will not allow journalists to join and does not appear in a Facebook search, that figure cannot be easily verified.

Ms Pacheco says she created it after noticing a growing number of pages set up by women opposing the politician.

At the end of September, millions of women united behind the hashtag #EleNao (Not him) and hundreds of thousands took part in the biggest female-led demonstrations in Brazil's history.

The march was designed to try to put a stop to Mr Bolsonaro's rise.

Only it did no such thing. Instead, his popularity grew in the week ahead of the first round and has kept rising further ahead of the second round on 28 October.

Ms Pacheco was one of those to oppose this anti-Bolsonaro movement.

"I thought it was impossible that there weren't more people, women who were with him, so I created it to prove that women support Bolsonaro, too," she says.

The group is dedicated to all things Jair Bolsonaro, the candidate who they say will change Brazil for the better.

Rival camps

The political stand-off between the two groups of women shows how in these elections even gender equality has become politicised.



On the one hand there are the #EleNao campaigners who are part of a wider movement against sexual harassment, sexism and discrimination, and on the other there are those who think feminists are pushing too far.

Ms Pacheco is one of those who dislikes the feminist rhetoric of the #EleNao campaign. "Feminism is political, and it's sexist," she argues. "It's worse than machismo."

"Feminism supports feminine superiority. Feminists treat men like dirt, as if they have to be submissive. Take the political left for example - men on the left are always submissive, they treat women as better than them," she adds.

Mr Bolsonaro has run a campaign based around preserving family values. But when you meet his female supporters, they do not all fit neatly into one conservative box.

Some like Mr Bolsonaro's support for the loosening of gun laws, which they argue will empower them and make them safer.

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Many, like Carina Soledade, reject the idea that a woman's role is to look after the children. Ms Soledade is among a group of women who argue that in Brazil, gender equality already exists, even if official statistics would suggest otherwise.

"If you're well-trained [and working] in a company, it doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman," she says. "There are some people who believe in discrimination, but I don't think it exists. In my view, men and women earn according to their knowledge and abilities."

She says she will be voting for Mr Bolsonaro on Sunday because "he can bring hope". "He can bring about change for Brazil," she adds.

It is a change the women of the #EleNao movement fear and which has created deep divisions among the women of Brazil.

[getdownonit]

I'll add one thing:

Feminism is sexist against women.

Feminists hate femininity. It's weak and repulsive in all it's forms.

[ilostabet]

that quote about the birth of his daughter making him weaker is misleading, what he said is actually way funnier.

he said he made four boys, but then had a weak moment and made a girl.

laughed my ass off when I read that one the first time.

leftists really have no sense of humor.

[JoSuado]

Days after Bolsonaro got stabbed, a woman appeared on the press saying 5 men wearing Bolsonaro shirts had carved a Nazi symbol on her (large) belly.
Mainstream media immediately believed in her story and changed the subject from Bolsonaro stabbing to "how toxic masculinity is helping fascism to return..."



She refused to press charges (strange), but went through forensic analysis.
Today, police found that she carved the symbol on herself.
Now look at her Facebook profile picture:



I think God had punished her already. Her name is Thassia Neis.

[Labienus]

What a repulsive woman.

[CaptainChardonnay]

[Hypno]

First of all, the election is this weekend and it looks good for Blosonaro.
https://www.voanews.com/a/brazil-poised-...30123.html

Bolsonaro like Trump is a confident guy. He shares Trump's refusal to back down from a confrontation. In the old PUA days they called it AMOGing.

True, he is less polished of a persuader than Trump but I think its the former that give them both their strength. He strikes me as more thoughtful and less impulsive than Trump, which is a good thing.
First of all, the election is this weekend and it looks good for Blosonaro.
https://www.voanews.com/a/brazil-poised-...30123.html

Bolsonaro like Trump is a confident guy. He shares Trump's refusal to back down from a confrontation. In the old PUA days they called it AMOGing.

True, he is less polished of a persuader than Trump but I think its the former that give them both their strength. He strikes me as more thoughtful and less impulsive than Trump, which is a good thing.

(10-21-2018 07:41 PM)JoSuado Wrote:  

Guys, I'm not a gamer. I will ask the opinion of gamers on the body language of the reporter in this video.

For those who don't know, Folha de São Paulo is Brazil most important newspaper. It follows a "new left" trend. Therefore, its writers are mostly feminists, ecologists, lgbts, lovers of French intellectualism etc.

I think it is unnecessary to say they are in a fierce campaign against Bolsonaro, although they claim to be neutral.

A year ago, when Bolsonaro was a mere lawmaker, a reporter from Folha de São Paulo interviewed him. She was supposed to put pressure on him.

Let's analyse her body language. Look how she touches her hair, how she bites her lips, how she laughs, how she stares at him.

I think she wants his d...

What do you think?

I don't speak Portuguese, although I can make sense out of it when I see it written. Spoken I'm worthless. As for body language, I'm not an expert but its a little easier with a youtube that you can pause.

He begins closed, confrontational. Hers is open, inviting. She tilts her head to the side to expose her neck, which is a mating invitation. She is also leaning forward slightly, which is bowing to his dominance. A few moments into the conversation, he is still closed. She appears frustrated that she has not persauded him. She leans back but is now in an even more open posture. So what looks like a rebuff-leaning as far back as possible-- is false.

She then re-engages but her posture is twisted. Not sure what that means but she seems unbalanced. His is still square and closed off. In a confrontation, you would never stand off balance like that because its a position of weakness. Its halfway to a fetal curve. She is again showing submission.

At 2:25 she places one, and then a second hand to her face. That is often a sign she wants her face touched intimately. At this point she is leaning in again.

At around 3:00 she is playing with her fingers and a pen. Earlier she was doing this out of nervousness. Now, its more gentle, almost as if she is caressing a phallus. And he is starting to lean in. And then she suddenly withdraws. Not sure what was said. But she instantly moves to the off balance posture at 3:26. Perhaps she is confused by her attraction to him and her repulsion to his ideas.

Around 4.09, she places one arm across her chest and the hand under her armpit. Its really odd. Its a half closed off posture. But again she is stroking her fingers with one hand. He tells a joke and then she caresses her face and she makes a fist under her mouth like she is giving him oral. It happens immediate after the first moment of rapport between them. I have never seen this fist under the mouth gesture except when receiving a blow job. This is amazingly strong body language.

5:26 hair flip is a mating/flirting gesture. She is drawing attention to her youthful, healthy hair, and does so with both hands which is an unusually strong emphasis. 6:10 is a more typical mild hair flip which is also a flirting gesture.

At the end of the video, the producer makes the point that she is in love with him. But the producer shows clips mostly of her face. Those tells are much more difficult to read because they can be faked or masked. The body language is much more clear.

Interestingly, his is almost the same the entire interview - closed off, defensive. He knows who he is dealing with - a journalist from the enemy - and is not fooled by the fact that she is young and weak.

[JoSuado]

(10-27-2018 07:41 AM)Hypno Wrote:  

Around 4.09, she places one arm across her chest and the hand under her armpit. Its really odd. Its a half closed off posture. But again she is stroking her fingers with one hand. He tells a joke and then she caresses her face and she makes a fist under her mouth like she is giving him oral. It happens immediate after the first moment of rapport between them. I have never seen this fist under the mouth gesture except when receiving a blow job. This is amazingly strong body language.

She puts her fist in her mouth immediately after he says some nice words for her.
He was talking about immigration, saying that he supports Trump wall. Abruptly, he says "Did you understand? Of course you did, you are an intelligent woman, like all friendly women I've met, they are all intelligent". Immediately after his words, she puts her fist in her mouth.

Look at this video also, from 1:50 forward. Look how the JB in white looks at him. She is probably 15.

[speculator]

Congratulations to all Brazilian forum members. Today is a historic day for you and all sane people of Brazil. This is also a major victory against SJWism and cultural Marxism around the world. Hopefully, decuckification will spread to neighboring Argentina and you can Make South America Great Again.

[lionel]

SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKK IT FUCKING LEFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[droughtmeat]

blz entao

[Wreckingball]

Commies are devasted.

BRASIU SIU SIU!

[JoSuado]

I don't know what to say, I just can't stop partying!!!

[Poker]

[DJ-Matt]

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[url=https://twitter.com/AndrewQuackson/status/1056645250926764039]

[frenchcorporation]

Bolsonaro is probably going to remove protections on the amazon, which will speed up climate change & fuck everyone (mass migration, wars) even harder in the long run. Not good news.

[Gmac]

We've already figured out how to terra-form and re-forest areas on Earth, and companies are now removing CO2 from the air and converting it to energy and other uses. I wouldn't be so worried. ^

https://thebreakthrough.org/index.html/vo...the-amazon
https://www.fastcompany.com/40421871/thi...ate-change

I had not been following this election, but I'm happy to see the result. Congratulations Brazil!

[wi30]

(10-28-2018 06:54 PM)frenchcorporation Wrote:  

Bolsonaro is probably going to remove protections on the amazon, which will speed up climate change & fuck everyone (mass migration, wars) even harder in the long run. Not good news.

Not sure if soy or just French.

[budoslavic]

Holy shit...congratulations to the people of Brazil who voted for him!

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Any epic meltdown from the Left yet? What are the reactions like?

[JoSuado]

(10-28-2018 08:12 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

Holy shit...congratulations to the people of Brazil who voted for him!

[url=https://twitter.com/DavidNnnnnguy/status/1056685092368605184][/url]

Any epic meltdown from the Left yet? What are the reactions like?

Same thing that happened after Trump victory. They are saying "not my president", "we will resist", "we will impeach him"...
Gays saying "we will die", "we will lose rights". Some gays are saying that they will mobilize to apply for refugee abroad.

[Bacchus]

I can't wait for Trump and Bolsonaro to meet and the epic gifs that will emerge from that meeting.

[nomadbrah]

(10-28-2018 06:54 PM)frenchcorporation Wrote:  

Bolsonaro is probably going to remove protections on the amazon, which will speed up climate change & fuck everyone (mass migration, wars) even harder in the long run. Not good news.

Climate change is a hoax and not real.

Besides he will offset it by getting rid of a couple million favella criminals. Which is the real issue, third world overpopulation and their complete lack of concern for the environment.

Congrats to Brazil!

Trump, Putin, Bolsonaro, Salvini, Orban, Kaczynsky, the european populists are rising. Got a good axis going there now. Soon Merkel, May and Macron will find themselves without many friends.

[budoslavic]

(10-28-2018 08:28 PM)JoSuado Wrote:  

(10-28-2018 08:12 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  

Holy shit...congratulations to the people of Brazil who voted for him!

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Any epic meltdown from the Left yet? What are the reactions like?

Same thing that happened after Trump victory. They are saying "not my president", "we will resist", "we will impeach him"...
Gays saying "we will die", "we will lose rights". Some gays are saying that they will mobilize to apply for refugee abroad.

Just noticed this Twitter tag - #PrayForBrazil - is currently trending.

[url=https://twitter.com/ChangKiQueen/status/1056685299407953921]

Pretty soon, we'll start hearing BDS aka "Bolsonaro Derangement Syndrome".

[DJ-Matt]

Can't help but notice a lot of tweets with that hashtag are from women, I don't give a flying fuck about women's political opinions and they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

[BeardedMastodon]

Excellent!

To the poster above, would not say Putin is positive, but maybe it’s a step that must come first ??