[darlten]

(09-16-2018 01:42 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 12:45 PM)darlten Wrote:  

Toronto is both the most multicultural and the most segregated city. Everyone hangs out with their own ethnic group. in Toronto you have to be part of a certain ethnicity or you will feel left out. Indians only hang out with Indians, same with Asians and other ethnicities. If you don't have an in culturally with some kind of immigrant community you will feel left out. And I wouldn't even want to live like this even if I did have an in with some immigrant community what fun is being around people when you are only around them cause you are the same ethnicity, this is why Toronto is very shallow and people are depressed it's prison mentality were people only really associate with those that look like them. I'm looking for a new city to move to and this is why Toronto isn't really an option for me way to segregated, probably going to go with Montreal since it just has a way better vibe and much happier. I have a slight interest in Vancouver/surrounding area to but we'll see.

When did you last visit Toronto?

Did you ever live here?

Was there a couple years ago and yeah I lived there for a while. Why did you disagree with me?

[Moma]

(09-16-2018 12:45 PM)darlten Wrote:  

Toronto is both the most multicultural and the most segregated city. Everyone hangs out with their own ethnic group. in Toronto you have to be part of a certain ethnicity or you will feel left out. Indians only hang out with Indians, same with Asians and other ethnicities. If you don't have an in culturally with some kind of immigrant community you will feel left out. And I wouldn't even want to live like this even if I did have an in with some immigrant community what fun is being around people when you are only around them cause you are the same ethnicity, this is why Toronto is very shallow and people are depressed it's prison mentality were people only really associate with those that look like them. I'm looking for a new city to move to and this is why Toronto isn't really an option for me way to segregated, probably going to go with Montreal since it just has a way better vibe and much happier. I have a slight interest in Vancouver/surrounding area to but we'll see.

Yes, try Montreal, the only drawback is that to really mingle, you will need to get your French up. However, if you are not working there and you get your money from another source, you should enjoy the diversity. Vancouver seems okay but it seems quite heavily tilted towards Asians. Nothing against Asians but if you prefer more of a mix, you may find yourself coming up short. However, I haven't gotten intel in some years now so maybe things may have changed (Vancouver wise) for the better.

[jacknap]

Toronto can't be that bad. I think Torontonians are a bit spoiled. Not that I've travelled a lot but

1) you can actually make money in Toronto.
2) it's safe most streets even at night
3) lots of diversity/new comers (game wise this is good)

Yeah there are places that are better but eg) south east asia/south america

think. would you rather be born an average south east asian man or born an average torontonian man?

we know the answer.

Yeah if you're a Torontonian that moves you get the benefits of possibility of money, superior upbringing environment (yeah I agree the feminism etc is bullshit but most smart guys realize this early enough) and then can bring that game elsewhere.

Similarly, Roosh is from Washington and dislikes the climate there but I'd argue that Roosh is good of game partly because of his home city and not in spite of it.

That being said I would love to travel because when I meet girls from abroad they're just so much more down than the Canadian girls because both men and women in Canada are SPOILED.

Too bad most places where girls are more down are also poor as fuck with little opportunity and dangerous. This is slightly keyboard jockey though because like I said I haven't traveled a lot.

[Banna]

(09-16-2018 01:14 PM)the_legend Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 06:33 PM)Banna Wrote:  

Oh cmon. Gender imbalance at bars/clubs? Lol.

The thing is at the venues I frequent.....it's not that there's no girls.

As its been said before it's "a winner takes all loser gets the spoils"
city. The "winners" have the hottest broads cornered to themselves in booths and in social circles. The losers, I'll mostly lump myself in there are on the floor getting what's left over.

Yeah your actually right about this. And the winners are so greedy. I went to club last night and some singer from a tv show came (im too old to be up to date with who is who). Anyway he had a vip section and all the 8s and up where there. Me and my friend had to fight for the rest that was left. It was so funny because he could have gotten any 10 he wanted but all the broads went to his private vip booth and he was hogging them all haha. your right about social media. People now more obsessed with the social presence and likes. We live in such sad times anymore. Your right about black women but they are women i hit up most since they are the most direct and dont do all that social media bullshit (well i go for black women in college). And yeah i remember you talking about the Muslim/brown guys in another thread I just wanted you to see my opinion on what its causing in the nightlife scene.

There are a variety of venues in Toronto. I mostly hit the quote/unquote mainstream ones....i.e. king W. The doormen/promoters take care of me usually and imho has the highest level talent in the city.

Digital Nomad posted a wide variety of spots (more bars/lounges) he likes to frequent that aren't of this scene with the elitist vibe where you could try too. I did check out Gracey O'Malleys that he referred to the forum one night and although I wasn't really feeling it....you could give it a go.

I don't have any trouble getting the attention of girls when going out despite being older than probably 90% of people at venues so i never look at places as sausage fests. Throw me in EFS solo on a Friday or Saturday and I'll find some girl to holla at. Actually a married 29 year old (at best a 7 to me due to her 5'2" height) asked me to leave and fuck her last night. I called her out on her wedding ring and said I don't fuck involved girls.

She countered with: "I'm in a open relationship". Of course no shortage of about 4 or 5 guys i counted after willing to take her contact info despite her repeated advances lol.

Brown or Arab guys don't affect me positively or negativly one iota in terms of pulling girls at clubs. I never look at other (regardless of colour) guys as "competition". As long as there are a decent # of girls milling about thats all i ask.

And in any event if 1 place sucks with bad ratios...with such a glut of spots to hit downtown in a small concentration, some other spot is likely to differ.

[Rorogue]

I am from Melbourne Australia, and everything I read about Toronto seems to be what applies here. I think they are very similar cities: insular, tribal, think they're "the most liveable..the center of the universe", SJW capital etc. A few well known pick up guys have actually said Melbourne is the worst place for game. The women likely have a similar attitude to that of Toronto.

Although getting laid isn't really an issue here if you are a 6/10 in looks, and have a good attitude, the issue for me is motivation. The women are extremely unpleasant to be around. Negative, angry, bitter, hateful, and very masculine.

I got a lay less than 2 weeks ago but I am going monk and working on my finances for the forseeable future.

Toronto guys, I would be curious to know- how do you stay motivated to game girls that are apparently so unpleasant?

[jacknap]

(09-17-2018 12:24 PM)Rorogue Wrote:  

I am from Melbourne Australia, and everything I read about Toronto seems to be what applies here. I think they are very similar cities: insular, tribal, think they're "the most liveable..the center of the universe", SJW capital etc. A few well known pick up guys have actually said Melbourne is the worst place for game. The women likely have a similar attitude to that of Toronto.

Although getting laid isn't really an issue here if you are a 6/10 in looks, and have a good attitude, the issue for me is motivation. The women are extremely unpleasant to be around. Negative, angry, bitter, hateful, and very masculine.

I got a lay less than 2 weeks ago but I am going monk and working on my finances for the forseeable future.

Toronto guys, I would be curious to know- how do you stay motivated to game girls that are apparently so unpleasant?

yeah I struggle with this too. when I started out early 20s it wasn't too hard cause I'd just pound down coffees and was so horny and full of energy as it is.

Now as the climate is pretty hostile and women are very unappreciative it's hard to maintain the regimen I had when I was younger.

For now I just accept that I hit the pavement at a fraction as I did when I was younger and be happy with the low drama fuck buddies I have for now. as new comers slowly chip away at my piece of the pie... sigh. lol

[NoMoreTO]

When I first moved to Toronto (From London ON) I found the chicks to be hot, but difficult. I couldn't believe the hard time I got from bitchy or frigid women at the bars.

Then I moved to Kingston for a short while and got laid constantly.

But when I came back to Toronto, I started having success out there. I You can definitely get laid in this city for sure. One thing I had to build was a steel disposition to the women who rejected me, I find that Toronto women can reject hard or be totally cold and dismissive, which lowers your motivation for the next girl. Also, I had regained a strong sense of my value, and didn't let the chicks little tests or attitude effect me at all, because they are testing you and throwing BS your way instantly sometimes. Don't let them fuck with you. They just have no manners, kindness, or social skills. Even fat girls in this city can reject you, its messed up when you are thinking about some of the girls you've been with, and this hideous ogorette is giving you attitude.

Advantage to Toronto is there are lots of good looking women, with professional jobs, who wear heels all up and down king west Wednesday - Saturday night. The concentration of chicks you get in a big city is an advantage to a guy who is putting himself out there. Also, there are chicks from every ethnic group, so you can end up in bed with types of girls, maybe you didn't think you were that into. Also, if you have any sort of niche market that works well for you, play that. I have done well with Persian Chicks because they just seem to always dig me and Latina Chicks because I speak a little Spanish. I would have liked more Russian / Ukranian girls but have had less success with them for whatever reason.

The hard thing for me about Toronto is actually getting a consistent quality lay (not even LTR) who doesn't annoy me outside the bedroom . I find they all have their feminist views and yes, they are all entitled. So many girls I have had for 1 -2 months and out. Most of the Canadian born girls are either from Toronto, or came here to chase their career and ride the 'cock carousel' -- so of course they are adherent to many feminist ideas. Some of them can cook, but its a dance to get them in the kitchen. I just ask them straight out now.

Best bet here is an immigrant or 2nd generation chick, they have slightly smaller egos than the Canadian born girls. Whichever race you like, we got it.

[Banna]

(09-17-2018 12:24 PM)Rorogue Wrote:  

I am from Melbourne Australia, and everything I read about Toronto seems to be what applies here. I think they are very similar cities: insular, tribal, think they're "the most liveable..the center of the universe", SJW capital etc. A few well known pick up guys have actually said Melbourne is the worst place for game. The women likely have a similar attitude to that of Toronto.

Although getting laid isn't really an issue here if you are a 6/10 in looks, and have a good attitude, the issue for me is motivation. The women are extremely unpleasant to be around. Negative, angry, bitter, hateful, and very masculine.

I got a lay less than 2 weeks ago but I am going monk and working on my finances for the forseeable future.

Toronto guys, I would be curious to know- how do you stay motivated to game girls that are apparently so unpleasant?

What's the age or racial demographic for the bolded?

I find the bolded comes from the 25+ broads a few years into their careers and have rode the cock carousel enough. Fuck hearing what those heaux have to say.

I'll stay getting flaked by these young 20-24 broads who once in a blue moon....or in my case a neon green moon (lol) will fuck and give me the best versions of themselves physically.

They're never mean or grumpy to me at all....they just have short attention spans and are at the height of their social media fetish. They ghost and flake like crazy. But I know it comes with the territory at that age. I don't find from experience girls in that bracket have been fucked properly (til they meet me of course hehehe) and are still learning.

I had one 24 year old a few weeks ago I opened that thought I was 28 after a initial friendly convo noticed my android phone and said: "Oh my.....i can't believe you actually have a Samsung" Lol.

What a crime on my part huh?

Suddenly she was like I kinda am seeing someone now. Offered IG and instead I said it was nice meeting you....bye.

Damn some of these T.O. broads here can find the most trivial shit to gripe about. Lucky they don't live in the other 95 odd % of planet earth as women. They got it good.

[LexisNexis]

I don't think Toronto women are mean necessarily. They're just not all that available/thirsty. Could be that they have a full dick pipeline, endless validation off social media, or voluntarily single and off the market to focus on their job/school/whatever.

You see this especially in the spillout on King West, when you have this stream of dolled up but wholly uninterested women walking out of the club past scores of horny males to head straight home.

[Thot Leader]

I've met many nice girls in Toronto. They're called Americans, or Europeans, or South Americans.

[Rorogue]

@Banna
I am only a few posts in on this forum so I can't discuss race (just being careful, I really like this forum and don't want to get banned) but I would say every woman who has grown up in Australia shows signs of it.

Yes, 25 year old women and over..forget it. They are men. They have lost all femininity. You can just see the misery on their faces.

I was messaging a couple of 40 year old semi okay women on internet dating..one or them was getting very explicit about what she wanted me to do to her. But I got bored and deleteted the app.

I notice girls 18-early 20s are a lot more pleasant, but in recent times I've noticed some of them behaving more unpleasant. I think the bad attitude comes from working shitty jobs

Exactly regarding them not having been on the carousel for long. They are still impressed by a man only slightly above average in looks (6/10), who has some game and attitude. After 25, they almost cease to respond to game. They want looks and they want it now.

Not surprised about that Samsung story. They hide their inability to bond healthily with a man, with rejecting a guy for any slight thing. Doesn't need to be said that this will come back to bite them when they want to 'settle down'

[DigitalNomad]

(09-16-2018 07:51 PM)Banna Wrote:  

Digital Nomad posted a wide variety of spots (more bars/lounges) he likes to frequent that aren't of this scene with the elitist vibe where you could try too. I did check out Gracey O'Malleys that he referred to the forum one night and although I wasn't really feeling it....you could give it a go.

Was it a Thursday? That's the only day worth going there.

(09-18-2018 12:06 AM)LexisNexis Wrote:  

I don't think Toronto women are mean necessarily. They're just not all that available/thirsty. Could be that they have a full dick pipeline, endless validation off social media, or voluntarily single and off the market to focus on their job/school/whatever.

You see this especially in the spillout on King West, when you have this stream of dolled up but wholly uninterested women walking out of the club past scores of horny males to head straight home.

Once again I beg to differ, I find Toronto to be one of the thirstiest cities I go. I can't argue the feminism thing, but thirst and feminism aren't mutually exclusive. And it's not like there aren't enough foreigners to go around. Like I've said on the countless other Toronto Sucks threads, I don't do King West aside from the less pretentious bars.. if you are going to bottle service bars, you gonna find bottle service whores like the ones you are talking about. My friends that go there have the money to do bottle service and absolutely kill it, that's not my scene though. And if you are waiting for the spillout, you probably waited too long, make your moves early in Toronto. I went only went out Thursday and Saturday last week or so, made 0 approaches, got approached 4 times and closed a 22 year old Canadian (Gracies) and a 29 year old Ukrainian (Bier Markt). I'll say experience helped, as both brought me back to 5 sets after we met.

I just think it's the funniest thing how these threads just endlessly say the completely opposite thing my friends and I say about the city.

(09-12-2018 06:33 PM)Banna Wrote:  

The "winners" have the hottest broads cornered to themselves in booths and in social circles. The losers, I'll mostly lump myself in there are on the floor getting what's left over.

I think there are three tiers here, the Winners are the successful finance/real estate guys who get all the King St W bottle whores by showing off their money... the Runner Ups, who get the leftover King St W whores and the whatever they want from the other bars in the city where the Winners don't go. Overall those 2 make up 20% of the guys here, and apparently 100% of my friends. And finally the losers who get basically nothing here, which is apparently most of the guys on the forum. There is probably a subcategory for the fratty college guys that do well with the college girls, but where doesn't that exist.

(09-17-2018 10:56 PM)Banna Wrote:  

I had one 24 year old a few weeks ago I opened that thought I was 28 after a initial friendly convo noticed my android phone and said: "Oh my.....i can't believe you actually have a Samsung" Lol.

What a crime on my part huh?

To be fair, I do that to girls when they have a Samsung haha.

(09-17-2018 12:24 PM)Rorogue Wrote:  

I am from Melbourne Australia, and everything I read about Toronto seems to be what applies here. I think they are very similar cities: insular, tribal, think they're "the most liveable..the center of the universe", SJW capital etc. A few well known pick up guys have actually said Melbourne is the worst place for game. The women likely have a similar attitude to that of Toronto.

I've heard they are very comparable. I'd be smashing the backpacker bars in Melbourne though, we don't really have any of those in Toronto anymore.

[JWLZG]

(09-17-2018 12:24 PM)Rorogue Wrote:  

I am from Melbourne Australia, and everything I read about Toronto seems to be what applies here. I think they are very similar cities: insular, tribal, think they're "the most liveable..the center of the universe", SJW capital etc. A few well known pick up guys have actually said Melbourne is the worst place for game. The women likely have a similar attitude to that of Toronto.

Although getting laid isn't really an issue here if you are a 6/10 in looks, and have a good attitude, the issue for me is motivation. The women are extremely unpleasant to be around. Negative, angry, bitter, hateful, and very masculine.

I got a lay less than 2 weeks ago but I am going monk and working on my finances for the forseeable future.

Toronto guys, I would be curious to know- how do you stay motivated to game girls that are apparently so unpleasant?

I too am from Melburne — spent 21 years there before deciding to get the fuck out. Never been to Toronto although both cities get compared equally on the forum all the time.

I'm not sure how much I can agree with the bolded with though; I'm not white, but in my last 3 years in Melbourne, I could average a lay a month via online or night game. Looks wise, I'd rate myself a 6 or 7.

Even though footballers and other athletes seem to dominate pussy, logisitics there can really make or break your game for the average man. Unless you have online or social circle on lock, your best bet is living within the inner north or east.

Otherwise, St Kilda or Prahran for the quantity of Europeans on working holiday visas.

Have you also thought of relocating, either permanently or having a second base abroad? I left Melbourne last December. That in itself won't improve your game — insofar as it would over time — rather understand that you were gaming in god mode in Melbourne the whole while. Furthermore, it would allay the feelings of frustration and despondency of being in such a toxic city for so long.

[Rorogue]

@JWLZ
Thanks for the detailed reply
I'm about a 6/10

I think a lay a month would be realistic for me as well

Yes I have thought about relocating. Mentally I have already checked out of the city. I've been here 28 years (I'm 29). Too much baggage for me, including family stuff.

I messed up most of my 20s in addictions (alcohol mainly) and pursuing low quality women. I want to focus on having a location independent income in the next 5 years. By 35 I want to be living overseas.

This is my first choice currently (Kuala Lumpur):
https://youtu.be/h911JkptQ6o

Where did you move to?

I agree inner north is really nice and vibrant, but I just don't care for this city anymore. So many soyboys and feminists in those areas. I think I'll put my head down and work. Try get girls when I can be bothered, but put $ over everything

[heavy]

Gavin has always said Toronto is the worst

[LexisNexis]

(09-18-2018 11:23 AM)heavy Wrote:  

Gavin has always said Toronto is the worst

How would he know? Does he pick up in Toronto nightclubs? When it comes to opinions on women I see Gavin as a coping chinless old man who lucked into the best places at the best time (Montreal and New York in the 90s).

[darlten]

(09-18-2018 11:23 AM)heavy Wrote:  

Gavin has always said Toronto is the worst

Could Toronto possibly be a better place to find an LTR worthy girl? Everyone talks about how hard girls in Toronto are but then they talk about how easy Montreal girls are and it's like one big orgy. Would you think Montreal girls have a much larger partner count for example and lose their virginity much earlier and start sleeping around earlier? So basically I'm wondering which city has more relationship worthy girls.

[Banna]

(09-18-2018 04:14 AM)DigitalNomad Wrote:  

Was it a Thursday? That's the only day worth going there.

Yes it was a thursday as was referred. Probably a July night. Since I didn't know anyone like other places I frequent I decided to reach early 1030 and a live band was playing which was nice. $5.00 cover won't hurt anyone's pocket (otoh some king W spots that end up sucking can cost 20 just to enter).

As i surveyed the scene as it got busier while I was going just chiefly for the new experience rather than to be a pua I didn't see any girl I was overly intrigued by physically. Of course I wouldn't say: "oh I'm the shit and everyone here sucks and is ugly" . It's more the women I like at spots I hit dress more risqué and sexier. The girls at Gracie's were at best dressed very nice I should say.

I left at about 1215 and the lineup was around the building. I left with the feeling it didn't really matter if I talked to someone or not. . When I drove a few blocks and entered one of my normal jaunts 20 minutes later I probably wanted to fuck about 70% of the female populace outright upon entry lol. I always tend to get that feeling there.

Probably THE most beautiful woman in Toronto I have ever encountered walked away from her circle and came up and asked me why I'm alone by the DJ booth. She was kinda sympathetic to me for not having a crew like everyone....not knowing this is how i always roll. The chick was a 5'11 Blasian mix. The closest thing I've ever seen to a perfect "10". No tramp stamps....belly piercings.....flawless. I don't know if I'd try to fuck her or outright ask for her hand in marriage lol. I'd ironically gotten laid off from my job temporarily so wasn't really in a talkative mood that night. We chatted a bit and she went back to her booth.

I actually saw her again like a few weeks later elsewhere with a group of guys she called me over to take some selfies with her crew of girls and guys. How on earth can these supposedly straight guys "just" be friends with a broad like that ?

I will go back to Graceys....possibly even this Thursday while it's still warm. It's good to not run into girls I've seen before and many that've ghosted n flaked on texts only to see them partying later on at some guys table lol. No isolated sets or fancy velvet ropes there.

Anyone should take what I say in terms of girls looks with a grain of salt anyways . I mostly go after 20-24 5'9" - 6'2" tall women exclusively.

[Captain Gh]

^^ Damn Banna if you got Broads like that approaching you outright in Toronto... it might be good for you to at least roll with someone that's on your level. I Know Easier said than done... but for a cutthroat environment like Toronto, it might pay huge dividends. Shit I Don't want to rub it in... but I feel with just 1 chill dude present by your side to put a stamp on what she felt from you... she would've met the OTHER Mr. Banna haha Keep it up playa!!

[rudebwoy]

I know Banna and have rolled with him a few times. He is being very modest and straight up when he talks about his experiences, he would do well in most cities around the globe.

The fascination with Toronto is mind blowing.

The biggest problem here is the thirst of dudes. I haven't met a SJW, they don't hang out where I go.

Melbourne sounds better than Toronto.

[Captain Gh]

^^ Indeed! The fascination with Toronto is truly something Else! It's the perfect storm in enticing men who want to get laid thanks to Gorgeous women residing in the city... and giving them absolute shitty variables to work with... all the while having these above mentioned Beautiful women being absolutely insufferable & amazingly Un-Fuckin-Sexy! I don't even know if I hate Toronto now... or simply love to hear how much men despise it! Not even Sure Haha!

[darlten]

I was living in Toronto like a couple years ago in my late teens for a while but didn't get a good idea of the city cause I was barely scraping by money wise so that's all I could think about. Now that I think about it though guys out there did look kind of miserable. But just cause of the lay out of the city I think there could be a lot of decent girls out there since there is so many secluded and more suburban areas there is probably a lot of girls kind of isolated and bored wanting to have some fun and some good girls that haven't yet been corrupted. My money situation is goona be better soon and I'm thinking about potentially moving back there and enjoying the city like I should have the first time. For some reason I thrive in miserable environments I think since I'm kinda of depressed and have some other issues I won't do good in a place were everyone is happy like Montreal, I will be to much of an outlier being a loner/kinda down. But in a place like Toronto were there is so much miserable people I think my "negatives" can actually be strengths, plus I could get an anti social girl that is more similar to me out there.

[rudebwoy]

^People are miserable here because off the rat race and trying to keep up with the Joneses. Some people actually believe this place is the centre of the universe.

I wouldn't paint Montreal as some utopia, I know many guys who moved to Toronto from there because of the work situation and culture.

Did you not start a thread about penis implants? Those Quebec girls are very blunt, aggressive and straight-forward just so you know.

[darlten]

(09-18-2018 06:58 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

^People are miserable here because off the rat race and trying to keep up with the Joneses. Some people actually believe this place is the centre of the universe.

I wouldn't paint Montreal as some utopia, I know many guys who moved to Toronto from there because of the work situation and culture.

Did you not start a thread about penis implants? Those Quebec girls are very blunt, aggressive and straight-forward just so you know.

Yeah I could see that I was feeling kinda shitty when I lived there to cause of my money situation. And yeah no where is perfect but I feel like people in Montreal are so happy so if you are more of a loner or not really outgoing you would kinda stick out there and maybe make people uncomfortable.

And yeah i started that thread what does that have to do with this though? Are you implying Quebec girls might somehow find out someone has a penis enhancement?

[Banna]

(09-18-2018 04:21 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

^^ Damn Banna if you got Broads like that approaching you outright in Toronto... it might be good for you to at least roll with someone that's on your level. I Know Easier said than done... but for a cutthroat environment like Toronto, it might pay huge dividends. Shit I Don't want to rub it in... but I feel with just 1 chill dude present by your side to put a stamp on what she felt from you... she would've met the OTHER Mr. Banna haha Keep it up playa!!

Naw! I wouldn't say she approached me....it was more sympathy for a guy standing alone probably thinking I wish I had some company. Like De Niro in Heat to the girl in that scene: "I'm alone....not lonely"

At my age I don't share a lot in common with any friends I've known in the city for years, a lot of similar aged guys with kids divorced n shit. Clubs don't really interest them. And they wanna age along with everyone in their bracket. Forget that! A 46 year old buddy invited (more like begged) me to some 30+ black singles mixer event at a lounge past weekend telling me there'll be a lot of 90s music. I told him: "I want girls BORN in the 90s". My HS ball teammate with a Masters and a million dollar Eglinton W home living alone is adamant about finding some 33 odd year old girl to settle with. Forget that x2!

Except 1 guy though...he's the same age and physical stature as me. We hit the gym. Hes a oddity....has 0 social media....no facebook/IG account. Never has once done dating sites. Very against those things! You can only text or call him. He's a funny mofo and brazen too. He knows how to push these girls' buttons and put em on the defensive right away. (I gotta learn to have that trait in this rugged city) And how to read who's DTF and who's wasting time.

I remember sitting with him at cabana one afternoon and this girl that liked him but playing hard to get. He just snatches her phone outta the blue: "I want to see all your pics on your phone....any nudes?" She was shocked for a sec.....but opened her password and let him browse her gallery.

He's like 41 got about 5 or 6 girls from clubs steady on rotation....all 20 somethings living DT in their own condo or with a roomie. Always cutting out at the gym to go to them. He don't mess with 30+ at all.

He likes to hit up strip joints n game women other simps lavishing $$$ on. He definitely don't be making it rain there!!!. Cheapest mofo I know. Will go to the strip clubs and sit for like 2+ hours drinking 1 soda chatting at girls never getting even 1 dance. Lol

Lives in his parents basement in 905 land and says he's never leaving. Proof you don't need to break the bank or feel its hopeless with girls here. But he's a A+ level player to me and fortunately for him didn't spend any of his 20s-30s doing lines or abusing alcohol which keeps him younger looking in addition to working out.

Great guy!