I'm getting more and more bitter and cynical about the idea of getting into an LTR. I'm starting to wonder if should even bother with it. Ironically, my knowledge of game seems inversely related with my ability to get into LTRs. During my younger years I got into relationships somewhat easily, although admittedly my first in junior high/high school were sexless and petty. Although by the time I was in my early 20s I fell into what I now recognize as the only good LTR I've had, in spite of my cringe-worthy blue-pilled beta behavior. We had mind-blowing, psychedelic, orgasmic sex multiple times a day, and constantly went to interesting places and did interesting things.
It was after the breakup that I discovered game and began doing cold approaches and deepening my knowledge. I went to parties and bars multiple times a week and it was by far the greatest period of my life. Before long, I was getting frequent numbers and makeouts and had a few SNL's, which was a massive improvement considering that I back in my HS days I was effectively socially retarded and had intense social anxiety. At first, it was incredibly exciting. It was all so new and fun, and the last thing I wanted to do was get into another relationship.
LTRs were never on my radar nor were they ever a goal. For a while, I wasn't remotely interested in them. Occasionally I would go out with a girl if she really stood out, but nothing ever came from it. Over the years I slowly become more successful with women. Now, more than ever, I actually feel interested in the idea of an LTR again, but I can't help but they are a hopeless illusion that will never manifest in the way I envision. I’m beginning to question the legitimacy of LTR’s and dating generally, while also suspecting that my previous LTR from my early 20s happened out of pure luck.
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I made this thread mainly due to the date I went on today. First date was a few days ago - very attractive she seemed like my type and the date went well. She texted me back pretty early the next day, immediately agreeing to meet up again in a few days (today). She even said she would cook me something at my place afterwards. I just got back from the date which ended with her leaving early before even coming to my place, and wouldn't even kiss me, despite making physical contact and trying to escalate things. I actually saw some LTR potential in her (and it wasn't onetis, as I had other dates around hers), and despite the green lights, it fucking went nowhere.
I feel pretty hollow and cynical as a result of this and a string of other bad dates and experiences I've had with women over the past few months. I've been on some of the worst dates of my life recently and it's very troubling.
It's even more troubling considering that my life was great last year, and I got laid a lot because of it. But starting in February of this year, after starting a new job, my life started to slide so quickly that I could hardly apprehend it. This workplace really did a number on me and it seemed to set me back a lot - my social anxiety was at unprecedented levels, and near the end it was so bad that I was having panic attacks every night and could barely even handle something as simple as getting an eye exam without intense discomfort.
Recently, I found a much better job and since then I've been quick to get myself reoriented again and getting my life in order, but dating has been a complete shitshow and it's hard to know what to think of it. Are LTR's a waste of effort in my case? It seems like the best option is to try to keep fucking new women and spin plates, assume an LTR isn't even desirable, and focus on the things that really add value and meaning to your life.
It was after the breakup that I discovered game and began doing cold approaches and deepening my knowledge. I went to parties and bars multiple times a week and it was by far the greatest period of my life. Before long, I was getting frequent numbers and makeouts and had a few SNL's, which was a massive improvement considering that I back in my HS days I was effectively socially retarded and had intense social anxiety. At first, it was incredibly exciting. It was all so new and fun, and the last thing I wanted to do was get into another relationship.
LTRs were never on my radar nor were they ever a goal. For a while, I wasn't remotely interested in them. Occasionally I would go out with a girl if she really stood out, but nothing ever came from it. Over the years I slowly become more successful with women. Now, more than ever, I actually feel interested in the idea of an LTR again, but I can't help but they are a hopeless illusion that will never manifest in the way I envision. I’m beginning to question the legitimacy of LTR’s and dating generally, while also suspecting that my previous LTR from my early 20s happened out of pure luck.
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I made this thread mainly due to the date I went on today. First date was a few days ago - very attractive she seemed like my type and the date went well. She texted me back pretty early the next day, immediately agreeing to meet up again in a few days (today). She even said she would cook me something at my place afterwards. I just got back from the date which ended with her leaving early before even coming to my place, and wouldn't even kiss me, despite making physical contact and trying to escalate things. I actually saw some LTR potential in her (and it wasn't onetis, as I had other dates around hers), and despite the green lights, it fucking went nowhere.
I feel pretty hollow and cynical as a result of this and a string of other bad dates and experiences I've had with women over the past few months. I've been on some of the worst dates of my life recently and it's very troubling.
It's even more troubling considering that my life was great last year, and I got laid a lot because of it. But starting in February of this year, after starting a new job, my life started to slide so quickly that I could hardly apprehend it. This workplace really did a number on me and it seemed to set me back a lot - my social anxiety was at unprecedented levels, and near the end it was so bad that I was having panic attacks every night and could barely even handle something as simple as getting an eye exam without intense discomfort.
Recently, I found a much better job and since then I've been quick to get myself reoriented again and getting my life in order, but dating has been a complete shitshow and it's hard to know what to think of it. Are LTR's a waste of effort in my case? It seems like the best option is to try to keep fucking new women and spin plates, assume an LTR isn't even desirable, and focus on the things that really add value and meaning to your life.