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Is the travel section dying?
#26

Is the travel section dying?

Quote: (05-13-2018 07:05 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Quote: (05-13-2018 07:01 PM)birthday cat Wrote:  

^ It's an attempt to shock these guys into taking action. How do you know I didn't make an A in all my computer science classes? Maybe I know these guys think better than you realize.

Ok, if that's the case then I apologize for misunderstanding. I took it as primitive "nerd bashing".

My personal experience is that there's no great correlation between a weirdo abroad (of which there are many) and their grade scoring in computer science. They come from all backgrounds, but yeah, your point is good otherwise.

No worries man. I was intentionally trying to be provocative but I think it could easily be interpreted in the wrong way so I appreciate the feedback.

It's not nerd bashing but I can clarify it so it makes more sense. A lot of these guys are smart analytical types that are accustomed to being able to learn things on their own. It's much easier and exponentially less time consuming to learn something that you are not naturally good when you surround yourself with people who are better than you.
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#27

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Quote: (05-13-2018 06:56 PM)pussy sniffer Wrote:  

Quote: (05-13-2018 06:02 PM)zoom Wrote:  

Maybe the solution would be for you two guys to learn game.

Game? Just LOL!!!

- A) photography skills :
-> have normal pics
-> be good at spotting bangable filipinas on their pictures

- B) project manager skills :
-> pipeline hard on cupid and other sites. Batch-add numbers on Evernote with name, age and cupid Id so that you can check them later if needed. Then batch-sync those contact details on Whatsapp
-> chat on whatsapp from your computer to save time
-> organize your meetings on google calendar

- C) urbanism skills :
-> arrange logistics well (easy meeting point, close to your place,...)

....The only game part in the Philippines is keeping your calm all the time. When they flake, when they get entitled, when they LMR, ...

Travel Museums, I think most guys here want to bang quality girls. You're going to need game to get the best quality.

If you want to keep banging 3s and 4s then stick with your strategy.
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#28

Is the travel section dying?

Quote: (05-13-2018 07:11 PM)birthday cat Wrote:  

Quote: (05-13-2018 07:05 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Quote: (05-13-2018 07:01 PM)birthday cat Wrote:  

^ It's an attempt to shock these guys into taking action. How do you know I didn't make an A in all my computer science classes? Maybe I know these guys think better than you realize.

Ok, if that's the case then I apologize for misunderstanding. I took it as primitive "nerd bashing".

My personal experience is that there's no great correlation between a weirdo abroad (of which there are many) and their grade scoring in computer science. They come from all backgrounds, but yeah, your point is good otherwise.

No worries man. I was intentionally trying to be provocative but I think it could easily be interpreted the wrong way so I appreciate the feedback.

It's not nerd bashing but I can clarify it so it makes more sense. A lot of these guys are smart analytical types that are accustomed to being able to learn things on their own. It's much easier and exponentially less time consuming to learn something that you are not naturally good when you surround yourself with people who are better than you.

Yeah agree absolutely. It really can't be compared, but it can be hard on the ego for sure to admit. One advantage of being young, no one expects you to know your shit, so it's easy to ask for help.
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#29

Is the travel section dying?

Quote: (05-13-2018 07:19 PM)zoom Wrote:  

Quote: (05-13-2018 06:56 PM)pussy sniffer Wrote:  

Quote: (05-13-2018 06:02 PM)zoom Wrote:  

Maybe the solution would be for you two guys to learn game.

Game? Just LOL!!!

- A) photography skills :
-> have normal pics
-> be good at spotting bangable filipinas on their pictures

- B) project manager skills :
-> pipeline hard on cupid and other sites. Batch-add numbers on Evernote with name, age and cupid Id so that you can check them later if needed. Then batch-sync those contact details on Whatsapp
-> chat on whatsapp from your computer to save time
-> organize your meetings on google calendar

- C) urbanism skills :
-> arrange logistics well (easy meeting point, close to your place,...)

....The only game part in the Philippines is keeping your calm all the time. When they flake, when they get entitled, when they LMR, ...

Travel Museums, I think most guys here want to bang quality girls. You're going to need game to get the best quality.

If you want to keep banging 3s and 4s then stick with your strategy.

Anyone who's been in the Philippines and who's in shape will bang better than your 3s and 4s. Being tall and handsome helps [Image: wink.gif]

Travel Museums? You're way off your element man, I'm mid-twenties and if I recall correctly he's in the older range.
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#30

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I think this is a troll thread but I can't resist commenting.

Visit freaking Moldova man! They get like 10,000 tourists a year. Moldova is not africa, middle east, south america. Just freaking visit. That's a place that isn't played out at all!

edit: I don't include all my datasheets in my signature anymore because it's a bit gay, but I'll help you out in this regard. Check out Macedonia, here's a chronicle of my time there: thread-66718...pid1718212 ... Oh and I'm completely honest so, you'll understand all my successes and failures there.

They only get something like 500,000 to 1 million tourists a year, and most are from the Balkans, not from the US, UK, Germany, etc.
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#31

Is the travel section dying?

Quote: (05-14-2018 03:21 AM)Dragan Wrote:  

I think this is a troll thread but I can't resist commenting.

Visit freaking Moldova man! They get like 10,000 tourists a year. Moldova is not africa, middle east, south america. Just freaking visit. That's a place that isn't played out at all!

edit: I don't include all my datasheets in my signature anymore because it's a bit gay, but I'll help you out in this regard. Check out Macedonia, here's a chronicle of my time there: thread-66718...pid1718212 ... Oh and I'm completely honest so, you'll understand all my successes and failures there.

They only get something like 500,000 to 1 million tourists a year, and most are from the Balkans, not from the US, UK, Germany, etc.

These meddling motherfuckers just can't leave places alone, can they?

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2...irst-many/

L:219  F:29  V:9  A:6  3S:1

"Water, water, everywhere, nor any drop to drink"
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#32

Is the travel section dying?

Quote: (05-14-2018 03:47 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  

Quote: (05-14-2018 03:21 AM)Dragan Wrote:  

I think this is a troll thread but I can't resist commenting.

Visit freaking Moldova man! They get like 10,000 tourists a year. Moldova is not africa, middle east, south america. Just freaking visit. That's a place that isn't played out at all!

edit: I don't include all my datasheets in my signature anymore because it's a bit gay, but I'll help you out in this regard. Check out Macedonia, here's a chronicle of my time there: thread-66718...pid1718212 ... Oh and I'm completely honest so, you'll understand all my successes and failures there.

They only get something like 500,000 to 1 million tourists a year, and most are from the Balkans, not from the US, UK, Germany, etc.

These meddling motherfuckers just can't leave places alone, can they?

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2...irst-many/

Oh yeah man that shit's happening all over eastern europe now, it has been the past few years. Serbia had a big pride parade last year, and it was noticeable for it's lack of violence. Surely the EU, some NGO, etc at work to put the pressure on the government to put on a violence-free pride parade. I do not think that shit flies in Kosovo, Albania, Bosnia, or Macedonia though!
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#33

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Quote: (05-13-2018 04:28 PM)Enhanced Eddie Wrote:  

Quote: (05-13-2018 01:08 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

If a person finds a nice place that is rarely talked about what is the incentive to share that information with potentially hundreds of thousands of people online. Call me greedy but If I had secret little honey pot that didn't have any tourists and it was stocked full of hot sloots I wouldn't be rushing to tell everyone about it.

This.

The real question is why was the travel forum ever public in the first place? I can't count how many posts I've read along the lines of "xyz was an incredible pussy paradise 4-5 years ago, then I posted about it here, and now it's dead"... do people really think that is a coincidence?

Making the travel section private and taking all blogposts about overseas poon behind a paywall would be a good step to remedy that, except it's pretty much too late already. We've reached a point of novelty decline where it's hardly worth traveling for women anymore.

I've been doing this 3rd world pussy chasing for over 20 years, and in 2014 there was a big decline across the board in all countries I like. I never understood why people who found out about this would want everyone to know. It was only good BECAUSE nobody knew about it, so why WOULD anyone want everyone to know about it? It makes no sense.

While I do agree that the Travel forum should probably be made private, the fears about it being responsible for the downfall of places is way over-blown. I posted this in another thread on the subject, but its as valid here:

Nowhere with a population of 500k+ is small enough to be ruined by datasheets being posted here - even on the public travel forum. The readership here just isn't that large, even with lurkers. The places that have been ruined with stag trips, Italians etc (hello Prague/Poland) have been ruined by a) direct cheap flights from Ryanair/other budget airlines and b) an image in the mainstream media as being a good place to go for LADS ON TOUR!! BANTER!! and c) cheap beer. These three factors draw far, far more men to a city than the Roosh forum ever can.

The main definitive Barcelona city thread currently on the frontpage of the Travel forum for example has only 92,000 views in the past 4 years. Even if half of those views resulted in men visiting Barcelona (which is way, way higher than likely in reality) thats only 10,000 men a year - or 30 odd a day. Even if they all brought a friend, 50ish men a day would still barely make a dent in one large club with a 2k+ capacity, nevermind an entire city. Other city threads have even less views.

Datasheets are the reason most of the older hands on the forum are here, they're a key part of what makes the forum great. I've traveled extensively over the last 5ish years since I've been reading the forum and used the datasheets for tens of cities as a good starting off point for nightlife. And they've been an invaluable asset in most of those cities. They're a hell of a lot more reliable than Tripadvisor or anything else on the internet, because you can usually bet on them having being written by a man aged 20-40 who has game. The advice is usually spot on because of this authorship, in direct contrast to some of the crap you'll see elsewhere written by some woman, old person, or no game type who has wildly different life priorities/experience.

I think if people stopped posting datasheets a very important function of the forum would die. The key is just perhaps only posting the ones for smaller cities in the private forum.
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#34

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Quote: (05-13-2018 02:41 PM)Tintin Wrote:  

Maybe a VIP section is a good idea

Yes op, please visit Kosovo, Donetsk, or Grozny. if you manage to get out without your organ's getting harvested then report back and rep points will be forthcoming ?

And were are you from smart ass so we can make a comparison between your country of origin and these places?

Kosovo is dangerous for serbs maybe as local Albanians there hate them to the core and maybe for black guys, but overall is one of the safest places in europe, at least for number of murders per capital.

There were 20 murders there last year , while in London alone for example there are till now like 80 killings only for 2018...

Plus that the Albanian chicks there are top tier in Europe ( 1 step above local slavic chicks in FYROM macedonia for example) , food is very good and cheap.

Neighboring Albania is a much more touristic place for sure.

However a difficult place to game.... local Albanian guys are huge and nationalism and protectionism of local albanian chicks is still strong, they are more extreme than Albos from Albania for example.

Not a pussy paradise like Serbia ( making a comparison) considering that many guys her in this forum got laid in Serbia, plus that i know some businessmen that have their girlfriends in Belgrade.

I am pretty sure that even Grozny is safer than most western europe.

I have even started to plan to go back in Bulgaria soon.
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#35

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Quote: (05-14-2018 04:09 AM)zatara Wrote:  

Nowhere with a population of 500k+ is small enough to be ruined by datasheets being posted here - even on the public travel forum.

The Philippines thread has nearly 2 million views. Then there are all the blog posts about the Philippines, not to mention, tons of other blogs and forums that imitated Roosh (swoop, 199flags, nomadph, singlemansparadise, and countless others). All of them tell guys about how wonderful dateinasia and filcupid are. Which is why the girls in Makati and Cebu are now being shared GLOBALLY. Every swinging dick on the entire planet can access them.

You could even make a case that this isn't a problem, except... we know from experience that it definitely is affecting things massively. As I said I used to get 20 messages in 1 hour, now I get maybe 1 message in 20 hours. That is a 400 x decline in 7 years. Not to mention, quality of the girls and their attitudes have declined as well. Same text, age and pictures in my online dating profile. If you've never been here and come straight from Toronto, it might still seem wonderful. But if you have been here in 2011 (or hell, even earlier), it's ridiculous in comparison now.

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The places that have been ruined with stag trips, Italians etc (hello Prague/Poland) have been ruined by a) direct cheap flights from Ryanair/other budget airlines and b) an image in the mainstream media as being a good place to go for LADS ON TOUR!! BANTER!! and c) cheap beer. These three factors draw far, far more men to a city than the Roosh forum ever can.

Not the case here, does not apply to the Philippines at all. This was a destination only for 1. military, with US bases in Subic etc., 2. retirees 60+ y.o., and 3. p4p sex tourists. Young guys with good game were non existent here. That's what made it special. It's still kinda special now but nobody other than this blogosphere/forumsphere is sending young guys with game to Philippines and other novelty places.

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The main definitive Barcelona city thread currently on the frontpage of the Travel forum for example has only 92,000 views in the past 4 years. Even if half of those views resulted in men visiting Barcelona (which is way, way higher than likely in reality) thats only 10,000 men a year - or 30 odd a day. Even if they all brought a friend, 50ish men a day would still barely make a dent in one large club with a 2k+ capacity, nevermind an entire city. Other city threads have even less views.

Another example that doesn't apply at all. Barcelona was never a secret, Spain was always a major tourism destination, and there was never any novelty in Barcelona that could be ruined. Spanish guys are pretty much white with black hair.

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Datasheets are the reason most of the older hands on the forum are here, they're a key part of what makes the forum great. I've traveled extensively over the last 5ish years since I've been reading the forum and used the datasheets for tens of cities as a good starting off point for nightlife. And they've been an invaluable asset in most of those cities. They're a hell of a lot more reliable than Tripadvisor or anything else on the internet, because you can usually bet on them having being written by a man aged 20-40 who has game. The advice is usually spot on because of this authorship, in direct contrast to some of the crap you'll see elsewhere written by some woman, old person, or no game type who has wildly different life priorities/experience.

Yeah, that is true... but at what cost? Would you rather be in a pussy paradise where you have to chat up another traveler you run into in order to hear about the good clubs, but where hundreds of girls jump on you as if you were Justin Bieber... or would you prefer a place where everything has been written about and you just need to follow the bread crumbs, but tens of thousands of other white guys have already been there, novelty is pretty much dead and the easy pickings are only 5s and 6s now?

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I think if people stopped posting datasheets a very important function of the forum would die. The key is just perhaps only posting the ones for smaller cities in the private forum.

Yeah, as I said - making the travel board private and putting the blog posts about pussy paradise behind a paywall would be a good solution.

inb4 "oh loser with no game crying"... I've been into this game for about as long as Roosh has, so I'll let you do the math. The places are changing... it is what it is. There are women everywhere... even back home. I'm just glad I got to drink my fill before the hordes arrived, is all I'm saying.

But yeah whatevs... it's kinda sad for those who have seen what it once was... but it is what it is.

Enhanced Eddie
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#36

Is the travel section dying?

Quote: (05-14-2018 03:50 AM)Dragan Wrote:  

Quote: (05-14-2018 03:47 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  

Quote: (05-14-2018 03:21 AM)Dragan Wrote:  

I think this is a troll thread but I can't resist commenting.

Visit freaking Moldova man! They get like 10,000 tourists a year. Moldova is not africa, middle east, south america. Just freaking visit. That's a place that isn't played out at all!

edit: I don't include all my datasheets in my signature anymore because it's a bit gay, but I'll help you out in this regard. Check out Macedonia, here's a chronicle of my time there: thread-66718...pid1718212 ... Oh and I'm completely honest so, you'll understand all my successes and failures there.

They only get something like 500,000 to 1 million tourists a year, and most are from the Balkans, not from the US, UK, Germany, etc.

These meddling motherfuckers just can't leave places alone, can they?

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2...irst-many/

Oh yeah man that shit's happening all over eastern europe now, it has been the past few years. Serbia had a big pride parade last year, and it was noticeable for it's lack of violence. Surely the EU, some NGO, etc at work to put the pressure on the government to put on a violence-free pride parade. I do not think that shit flies in Kosovo, Albania, Bosnia, or Macedonia though!

The gays are every where dude... everywhere....

Did tyou even see how the fat jewish creature won the eurovision contest with her song named '' Toy'' which was like super feminist and a direct offence to most males..

gay parades are everywhere.... even in balkans, but at a much smaller scale than in Western europe.

Greece is lie the epi center of gay parades in balkans
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#37

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Quote: (05-14-2018 03:21 AM)Dragan Wrote:  

I think this is a troll thread but I can't resist commenting.

Visit freaking Moldova man! They get like 10,000 tourists a year. Moldova is not africa, middle east, south america. Just freaking visit. That's a place that isn't played out at all!

edit: I don't include all my datasheets in my signature anymore because it's a bit gay, but I'll help you out in this regard. Check out Macedonia, here's a chronicle of my time there: thread-66718...pid1718212 ... Oh and I'm completely honest so, you'll understand all my successes and failures there.

They only get something like 500,000 to 1 million tourists a year, and most are from the Balkans, not from the US, UK, Germany, etc.

I was reading a data sheet about Moldova in here... it seems the country was being filled with sex tourists from middle east and western europe...

And i dont mean players but those type of males that throw their money around to make a point to local sluts or gold diggers...

It is a shame.

Globalism is destroying every single local culture.
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#38

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Quote: (05-14-2018 04:42 AM)Vlado Wrote:  

Quote: (05-14-2018 03:50 AM)Dragan Wrote:  

Quote: (05-14-2018 03:47 AM)Sandstorm Wrote:  

Quote: (05-14-2018 03:21 AM)Dragan Wrote:  

I think this is a troll thread but I can't resist commenting.

Visit freaking Moldova man! They get like 10,000 tourists a year. Moldova is not africa, middle east, south america. Just freaking visit. That's a place that isn't played out at all!

edit: I don't include all my datasheets in my signature anymore because it's a bit gay, but I'll help you out in this regard. Check out Macedonia, here's a chronicle of my time there: thread-66718...pid1718212 ... Oh and I'm completely honest so, you'll understand all my successes and failures there.

They only get something like 500,000 to 1 million tourists a year, and most are from the Balkans, not from the US, UK, Germany, etc.

These meddling motherfuckers just can't leave places alone, can they?

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2...irst-many/

Oh yeah man that shit's happening all over eastern europe now, it has been the past few years. Serbia had a big pride parade last year, and it was noticeable for it's lack of violence. Surely the EU, some NGO, etc at work to put the pressure on the government to put on a violence-free pride parade. I do not think that shit flies in Kosovo, Albania, Bosnia, or Macedonia though!

The gays are every where dude... everywhere....

Did tyou even see how the fat jewish creature won the eurovision contest with her song named '' Toy'' which was like super feminist and a direct offence to most males..

gay parades are everywhere.... even in balkans, but at a much smaller scale than in Western europe.

Greece is lie the epi center of gay parades in balkans

Don't bother watching it, as I'm not european. But yeah that transgender/ drag queen, whatever you want to call it, I thought that was bad. Being gay really isn't tolerated here in serbia. they are the butt of jokes all the time here. It's like russia in some sense, but maybe a bit less severe.

Quote: (05-14-2018 04:45 AM)Vlado Wrote:  

Quote: (05-14-2018 03:21 AM)Dragan Wrote:  

I think this is a troll thread but I can't resist commenting.

Visit freaking Moldova man! They get like 10,000 tourists a year. Moldova is not africa, middle east, south america. Just freaking visit. That's a place that isn't played out at all!

edit: I don't include all my datasheets in my signature anymore because it's a bit gay, but I'll help you out in this regard. Check out Macedonia, here's a chronicle of my time there: thread-66718...pid1718212 ... Oh and I'm completely honest so, you'll understand all my successes and failures there.

They only get something like 500,000 to 1 million tourists a year, and most are from the Balkans, not from the US, UK, Germany, etc.

I was reading a data sheet about Moldova in here... it seems the country was being filled with sex tourists from middle east and western europe...

And i dont mean players but those type of males that throw their money around to make a point to local sluts or gold diggers...

It is a shame.

Globalism is destroying every single local culture.

yeah it is for sure, but moldova gets like no tourists. this is a great datasheet on the place, really recent as well: thread-68044...pid1769517 .

There are like 0 western tourists there, it can't be that bad.
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Quote: (05-13-2018 05:19 PM)Sandstorm Wrote:  

Quote: (05-13-2018 04:28 PM)Enhanced Eddie Wrote:  

Case in point, Philippines... I log onto dateinasia after 24 hours of absence and have maybe 1 new message. In 2011 it was the other way round. I got maybe 24 messages in 1 hour. Girls initiating.

Quality and attitudes have also dropped considerably. Girls used to message me first, more than I had time to reply to. Now I have to initiate and often get ignored or get a response with an attitude. And these girls aren't even anywhere near as hot as the ones I banged easy 7 years ago. Same with Filipino Cupid.

Yeah I'm older now (late 30s) but I tried a profile where I used my pics from back then and my age setting from back then and get nigh the same results. Honestly it's hilarious. Chubby Filipina 6s clicking on my profile (showing in up "viewed me") and deciding I'm not worth a message, or ignoring me if I message, or giving me lip.

I've been doing this 3rd world pussy chasing for over 20 years, and in 2014 there was a big decline across the board in all countries I like. I never understood why people who found out about this would want everyone to know. It was only good BECAUSE nobody knew about it, so why WOULD anyone want everyone to know about it? It makes no sense.

[Image: undecided.gif]

Flying to manila tomorrow for the first time.

Is my imaginary poosey-paradise a thing of the past now? [Image: confused.gif]

I have to agree... Filipino Cupid is pretty shit! (admittedly, so is my profile, heh) but yeah, only 10 messages in about 2/3 weeks, and only 2 of those are from Makati!

Gulp.

You'll be fine. It's a numbers game. And don't take the people in this country too seriously either or else it'll start affecting your mental health.

Lot of girls here you can date and bang, but in my opinion, it's very difficult to find a quality one. Not a place to come for a wife but for fun.

Maine and Canadian lobsters are the same animal. Prove me wrong.
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#40

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Quote: (05-14-2018 04:39 AM)Enhanced Eddie Wrote:  

The Philippines thread has nearly 2 million views. Then there are all the blog posts about the Philippines, not to mention, tons of other blogs and forums that imitated Roosh (swoop, 199flags, nomadph, singlemansparadise, and countless others). All of them tell guys about how wonderful dateinasia and filcupid are. Which is why the girls in Makati and Cebu are now being shared GLOBALLY. Every swinging dick on the entire planet can access them.

You could even make a case that this isn't a problem, except... we know from experience that it definitely is affecting things massively. As I said I used to get 20 messages in 1 hour, now I get maybe 1 message in 20 hours. That is a 400 x decline in 7 years. Not to mention, quality of the girls and their attitudes have declined as well. Same text, age and pictures in my online dating profile. If you've never been here and come straight from Toronto, it might still seem wonderful. But if you have been here in 2011 (or hell, even earlier), it's ridiculous in comparison now.

Not the case here, does not apply to the Philippines at all. This was a destination only for 1. military, with US bases in Subic etc., 2. retirees 60+ y.o., and 3. p4p sex tourists. Young guys with good game were non existent here. That's what made it special. It's still kinda special now but nobody other than this blogosphere/forumsphere is sending young guys with game to Philippines and other novelty places.

Another example that doesn't apply at all. Barcelona was never a secret, Spain was always a major tourism destination, and there was never any novelty in Barcelona that could be ruined. Spanish guys are pretty much white with black hair.

Yeah, that is true... but at what cost? Would you rather be in a pussy paradise where you have to chat up another traveler you run into in order to hear about the good clubs, but where hundreds of girls jump on you as if you were Justin Bieber... or would you prefer a place where everything has been written about and you just need to follow the bread crumbs, but tens of thousands of other white guys have already been there, novelty is pretty much dead and the easy pickings are only 5s and 6s now?

Yeah, as I said - making the travel board private and putting the blog posts about pussy paradise behind a paywall would be a good solution.

inb4 "oh loser with no game crying"... I've been into this game for about as long as Roosh has, so I'll let you do the math. The places are changing... it is what it is. There are women everywhere... even back home. I'm just glad I got to drink my fill before the hordes arrived, is all I'm saying.

The Philippines thread gets 400k views a year. Again, taking a likely way-higher-than average views-into-visitors ratio of 50%, that would be 200k visitors to the entire country of the Philippines pear year, inspired by this forum. Or about 500 a day. The Philippines has a population of 50 million women. Do you really think having 500 extra men there, spread across the country, on any given day, will suddenly ruin it as a country?

On a macro level the growth of wealth, the spread of smart phones, the increase in dating apps, and the increase in popularity of travel in general for Western millennial are far bigger factors in supposed "pussy paradises" going downhill. This forum is way, way down the list in terms of influence.

The Philippines thread is also the #1 most viewed thread on the entire Travel forum, so its not exactly an 'average' thread to use as an example. Only a total of three threads on the entire Travel forum have over 50% of its views (900k). Most average city threads have less than 50k views, an order of multitude less. A thread thats multiple years old, and has less than 50k views, is not doing any noticeable damage to a reasonable sized city.
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#41

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Quote: (05-13-2018 06:10 PM)Enhanced Eddie Wrote:  

Quote: (05-13-2018 06:02 PM)zoom Wrote:  

Maybe the solution would be for you two guys to learn game.

Ooooh zinger! Maybe you could teach me!

Or maybe you could explain how what I described has anything to do with game:

20 hot girls initiating per hour 7 years ago
1 mediocre girl initiating per day now

Ya! Teach me how to sleep with 7's and 8's using less effort than it takes me to move my ring finger!

Why should I have to go through the trouble of improving myself and becoming desirable to non-impoverished women who aren't desperate for cock?

I deserve quality pussy because I'm worth it!

I'm the King of Beijing!
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#42

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Quote: (05-13-2018 04:28 PM)Enhanced Eddie Wrote:  

Case in point, Philippines... I log onto dateinasia after 24 hours of absence and have maybe 1 new message. In 2011 it was the other way round. I got maybe 24 messages in 1 hour. Girls initiating.

Quality and attitudes have also dropped considerably. Girls used to message me first, more than I had time to reply to. Now I have to initiate and often get ignored or get a response with an attitude. And these girls aren't even anywhere near as hot as the ones I banged easy 7 years ago. Same with Filipino Cupid.

How much of the change in girls behavior can be attributed to people posting about a place on a forum, versus the fact that no place is an isolated bubble?

If I had to bet, I would say the latter is way more responsible for behavior changes on a societal level. This is what I've seen happen all around Brazil: technology, smartphones and social media are probably the biggest factors in the change of look and behavior of Brazilian girls - not the thousands and thousands of gringos who keep going to the country year after year.

Pussy paradises are always changing because some places are discovered and some are forgotten - only to be rediscovered again in the future. There is no grabbing on to it.
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#43

Is the travel section dying?

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I do not think that shit flies in Kosovo, Albania, Bosnia, or Macedonia though!
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These are probably the last places in Europe (Balkans) that BS like that won't even be considered. Men are alpha by nature, women are feminine by nature. The only downside is social game is king!
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#44

Is the travel section dying?

Quote: (05-14-2018 04:39 AM)Vlado Wrote:  

Quote: (05-13-2018 02:41 PM)Tintin Wrote:  

Maybe a VIP section is a good idea

Yes op, please visit Kosovo, Donetsk, or Grozny. if you manage to get out without your organ's getting harvested then report back and rep points will be forthcoming ?

And were are you from smart ass so we can make a comparison between your country of origin and these places?

Kosovo is dangerous for serbs maybe as local Albanians there hate them to the core and maybe for black guys, but overall is one of the safest places in europe, at least for number of murders per capital.

There were 20 murders there last year , while in London alone for example there are till now like 80 killings only for 2018...

Plus that the Albanian chicks there are top tier in Europe ( 1 step above local slavic chicks in FYROM macedonia for example) , food is very good and cheap.

Neighboring Albania is a much more touristic place for sure.

However a difficult place to game.... local Albanian guys are huge and nationalism and protectionism of local albanian chicks is still strong, they are more extreme than Albos from Albania for example.

Not a pussy paradise like Serbia ( making a comparison) considering that many guys her in this forum got laid in Serbia, plus that i know some businessmen that have their girlfriends in Belgrade.

I am pretty sure that even Grozny is safer than most western europe.

I have even started to plan to go back in Bulgaria soon.

^THIS 100%
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#45

Is the travel section dying?

The proliferation of smartphones and the internet, along with general game knowledge is rapidly changing the world as we know it. This means increased competition and also increased rewards. This is not just limited to game and goes to career wise (English Teachers have to be competent in some places now, not just get a job cause your white), education wise (every kid in the US is studying now for the SATs). Eddie you sound like a butthurt guy cause all the "guys with good game" are coming over and taking away "your pussy paradise".

Perhaps this is a chance for you to improve your own SMV and learn to compete.
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#46

Is the travel section dying?

In small cities a surprisingly small number of game aware young foreign men can significantly affect the whole city. Let us take for example Tallinn in Estonia (I have not been there but would love to visit thanks to good rep from Rooshvforum ;-) If you look at the overall demographics of Estonia you would see that Tallinn a city of around 450,000 people would have no more than 100,000 (at best) young women (women aged 18 - 35).

If for example it eventually happened that the Rooshv forum plus other game sites/forums combined were responsible for a modest 50 young male game aware visitors to the city per day and let us assume that these guys all do an average of for example 6 approaches per day (the rest of the day would be sightseeing and other touristic activities). That is an extra 300 combined approaches per day. 300 multiplied by 365 is 109,500 extra approaches per year compared to a young female population in Tallinn of say 100,000 (its actually less in reality I am just being generous here).

A small extra number of guys could mean that suddenly the average young female is now getting approached by one foreigner per year. It's actually even worse than that because if you assume that out of the 100,000 young women some are fat or ugly and we generally only approach bang-able looking women. So if we assume (I am being generous here) that out of 100,000 young women only 70,000 are attractive enough to be worth approaching. Suddenly that is an extra 109,000 approaches per year compared to 70,000 attractive young women. Attractive young women are now getting approached by an extra 1.5 foreigners per year on average. Yeah girls being approached by 1 or 2 extra foreigners a year might not sound like a lot but its a different dynamic when the vast majority of young women have never been approached by foreigners to suddenly most attractive young girls getting approached by foreigners at least occasionally.

Please keep in mind the above example is just a hypothetical to illustrate how in small cities a surprisingly small number of young foreign game aware men visiting a city can significantly alter the dynamics.
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#47

Is the travel section dying?

Quote: (05-14-2018 02:39 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

The proliferation of smartphones and the internet, along with general game knowledge is rapidly changing the world as we know it. This means increased competition and also increased rewards.

Perhaps this is a chance for you to improve your own SMV and learn to compete.

Love this. This is my observation as well after years on the road. I always come back to the same conclusion: Make more money, stop being a fat fuck, increase your confidence etc. etc. Improving SMV is the best "counter" to whatever is going on in the world!
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#48

Is the travel section dying?

Quote: (05-14-2018 02:39 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

The proliferation of smartphones and the internet, along with general game knowledge is rapidly changing the world as we know it. This means increased competition and also increased rewards. This is not just limited to game and goes to career wise (English Teachers have to be competent in some places now, not just get a job cause your white), education wise (every kid in the US is studying now for the SATs). Eddie you sound like a butthurt guy cause all the "guys with good game" are coming over and taking away "your pussy paradise".

Perhaps this is a chance for you to improve your own SMV and learn to compete.

I agree with this. I went to the Philippines in 2015 and in 2017. I noticed the girls weren't as eager as they were in 2017, but I improved myself quite a bit in that span of two years and as a result I did much better in 2017.

Another problem is some guys who spend so much time there with girls chasing them turn into replicas the entitled western women that many guys on here complain about.
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#49

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I remember when I found the RVF years ago (I didn't sign up for a long time unfortunately) that people were already complaining that city X wasn't the same as when they visited the first time. And now it's still the same thing. Personally, I don't think it's true, look at a city like Bangkok which is definitely not a secret poosy paradise anymore and that even non-RVF people go to for "having some fun time". After all these years and hordes of foreigners flooding the city it's still a very easy place to hook up with girls. If you're good looking and have some game you can still take home a girl every night without paying. The novelty of foreigners may decrease at some places due to things like cheaper flight prices or travel logs, but with little game you can still bed the same girls as before. You probably won't be a novelty and their first foreign guy - but since they crave these men you can still bang them. It's not about novelty, it's about sexual desire.
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#50

Is the travel section dying?

Quote: (05-14-2018 02:39 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

The proliferation of smartphones and the internet, along with general game knowledge is rapidly changing the world as we know it. This means increased competition and also increased rewards. This is not just limited to game and goes to career wise (English Teachers have to be competent in some places now, not just get a job cause your white), education wise (every kid in the US is studying now for the SATs). Eddie you sound like a butthurt guy cause all the "guys with good game" are coming over and taking away "your pussy paradise".

Perhaps this is a chance for you to improve your own SMV and learn to compete.

Yes, I have seen the effects in Ukraine. Instagram seems to be the most damaging, girls will go to a bar and livestream and barely say a word to each other, and would rather build their value on their IG account than talk to any men.

Nightlife has died a death in the last few years, partly due to war and poverty, but I wonder how much of it is down to social media.
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