[TigerTim]

(05-01-2018 06:57 PM)Jungle Wrote:  

Couple things worth noting, in regards to the dating market for white men:

1. Being white makes you a global minority. Perhaps if you live in a European-roots country then you don't notice it as much, but actually there's not many whites in the world in comparison to Asians, Africans and Hispanics. Being white is relatively rare in a global sense, therefore there's a level of scarcity value attached to this.

So when a white man gets an SMV boost by going abroad, this difference is accentuated because the rest of the world doesn't have many of you so it's valued more.

2. Being white is still perceived with being "wealthy" or from a developed country. This is inaccurate and not true in many example, such as Saudis, Israelis and South Koreans are much wealthier than Ukrainians... but nevertheless this stereotype still exists in the world. Therefore this boosts white men's SMV in the developing world.

3. [b]Whites are attractive, on average.[/b] Yes of course they age more from the sun, and blemishes/wrinkles/pigmentation etc will show up more on white skin compared to dark skin. And yes of course people will have different tastes, from their own perspective. If you don't use a typical American's unhealthy lifestyle, then from a genetic point of view, whites have good aesthetics.

Now before everyone gets all defensive and ad hominem, yes there are also inherent advantages for other ethnicities, this is not supposed to be some sort of pissing contest.

(05-01-2018 09:14 AM)gowest Wrote:  

the value of white men keeps falling around the world, while the value of darker men rises more and more.

I think you're only partly correct, but I would say that the value of white men and darker men is falling around the world.

The value of men is falling around the world due the spread of anti-male sexist feminism, and also the rise in government welfare spending, globalisation and cheap travel.

In the past decades due to developing world economic growth and the growing middle class now darker men from emerging economies can compete with European men, because historically they couldn't. It has levelled the playing field a bit, but darker men will still have to deal with war against men of all ethnicities.

Now, to answer the OP's question: Best countries to visit as a white guy?

The best countries are anywhere that is not US, Canada, Western Europe, Australia, NZ, South Africa.

These aforementioned countries are not necessarily a sexual wasteland. I still do quite well in them. As do many others.

But, once you compare western countries with militant feminism to the rest of the world then it's clear that west is not as good for white SMV

1) perception of whiteness. Most countries outside the Anglosphere dont have an standarized concept of "white", nobody bring into a conversation the word "white" to define a race but stick to linguistical and cultural labels instead. Depends what do you perceive as white... As I previously wrote, SOuthern Europeans are much Closer to Near Easterns and even to Many Latin americans (talking about here about south Americans, not central america or Mexico, who represent 95% of all the hispanics in the States) appearance Wise, than they are to people above the Alps. Now the Hispanics crossing the US are mostly Amerindians from Central America and Mexico, they dont Represent whole "LAtin" America or hispanics. Neither Hispanic should be labeled as a Race in the Same Way "Asian" or "African" are not a race, in fact the concept of "hispanic" race in the US would be labeled as mixed-race in most parts of the World.

2) Many "white americans" also arent real white, such as Johnny Depp, Jimmy Falllon, Jason Biggs or David Schwimmer.

3) Diversity within Europe. There is a lot of Diversity in Europe, not only because of the recent immigration (last 45 years) coming from Middle East and Africa, but because there is a lot of Ethnic diversity in Europe even when you consider the original people. Take for example an average Sicilian or a Greek and put him in Denmark or Germany, he might get mistaken for a Syrian refugee or third generation Turk. AMericans dont experience such difference, because their average person claiming to be Italian american might have substantial British/Irish Blood, and on the same time the person claiming to be Polish american might also share a lot of British/Irish blood,which would be nearly absent for the Average non (British Islander/Irish) European , just to settle an example, Hence Americans dont really know the truly diversity of Europe, because Americans are quite mixed and they tend to have tendency or overrepresentation of certain Ancestries and mixes that arent common elsewhere,

[Tail Gunner]

(05-01-2018 08:32 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  

As I previously wrote, SOuthern Europeans are much Closer to Near Easterns and even to Many Latin americans (talking about here about south Americans, not central america or Mexico, who represent 95% of all the hispanics in the States) appearance Wise, than they are to people above the Alps.

Southern Europe was invaded by the Moors. Or, if you are a Seinfeld fan, by the Moops.

[CUNT GET LAID]

Bangkok
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What other cities can a good looking guy have Tinder pussy delivery in?

[TigerTim]

(05-01-2018 09:49 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

(05-01-2018 08:32 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  

As I previously wrote, SOuthern Europeans are much Closer to Near Easterns and even to Many Latin americans (talking about here about south Americans, not central america or Mexico, who represent 95% of all the hispanics in the States) appearance Wise, than they are to people above the Alps.

Southern Europe was invaded by the Moors. Or, if you are a Seinfeld fan, by the Moops.

Yes, it might explain the look of many south Italians ( nappy hair, pseudo egyptian looks), However SOuthern Europeans have always been a lot darker than people north of the alps. Anywhere heavily romanized has been always darker, romans were dark period, so ancient greeks. That explains why many areas of France despite not being that South (geographically wise)in Europe have so many dark featured people (aside from the mass migration/assimilation of portuguese, italians and spanish during the early/mid 20 century . Same way so many British ISlanders and Irish have dark looks (think in beatles, mr bean, sean connery, catherine zeta jones, Orlando Bloom, Russell Brand, etc), despite being pretty up North.

[amricanonline]

(04-28-2018 04:04 PM)Salvadore Wrote:  

You are not going to have much of a niche at all for you in some Arab countries as a white man. And even if there were girls who showed interest in you, you'd have to prepare yourself for the risk of getting into a lot of trouble. Arabs are some of the worst racists in my experience and the honour culture could have you killed if a girl's relatives found out she was going out with a white western man.

Meh, it's overblown. There is TONS of dating in even the conservative Arab countries. Saudi Arabia is the only big exception.

[Tail Gunner]

(05-02-2018 01:35 AM)TigerTim Wrote:  

(05-01-2018 09:49 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

(05-01-2018 08:32 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  

As I previously wrote, SOuthern Europeans are much Closer to Near Easterns and even to Many Latin americans (talking about here about south Americans, not central america or Mexico, who represent 95% of all the hispanics in the States) appearance Wise, than they are to people above the Alps.

Southern Europe was invaded by the Moors. Or, if you are a Seinfeld fan, by the Moops.

Yes, it might explain the look of many south Italians ( nappy hair, pseudo egyptian looks), However SOuthern Europeans have always been a lot darker than people north of the alps. Anywhere heavily romanized has been always darker, romans were dark period, so ancient greeks.

While the history is not perfectly clear, you make huge assumptions not backed by historical fact as contemporaneously documented in the ancient world.

Quote:

R. Peterson’s fine study, The Classical World (1985), which includes an analysis of 43 Greek, and 32 Roman figures, is persuasive. Dr. Peterson explains that the Romans painted their death masks to preserve the color, as well as the shape, of their ancestors’ faces. Blue eyes, fair hair, and light complexions are common. A good example of racial type is the famous portrait bust of Lucius Junius Brutus, the founder of the Roman Republic, which dates from the fourth century BC. Brutus’ face is identifiably Germanic, and so is the color of his eyes. The sculptor used ivory for the whites and blue glass for the pupils. Or take the famous marble head of a patrician woman from the late first century AD, which is often included in illustrated surveys of imperial Rome to demonstrate the fashion for curled hair. Her features are typically northern European: a delicate, aquiline nose, high cheekbones, and a face angular and long rather than round. Another classic example is the famous fresco from the Villa of the Mysteries in Pompeii, which shows four women undergoing ritual flagellation. They are tall, light-skinned, and brown-haired.

There is also evidence from Roman names. Rutilus means “red, gold, auburn” and stems from the verb rutilo, which means “to shine with a reddish gleam.” Rufus, meaning red, was a common Roman cognomen or nickname used for a personal characteristic, such as red hair. The Flavians were an aristocratic clan whose family name was derived from flavus, meaning golden-yellow. The Flaminians were another noble family whose clan name came fromflamma, meaning flame, suggesting red hair.

According to Plutarch, Marcus Porcius Cato had “red hair and grey eyes,” Lucius Cornelius Sulla, the general and dictator, had “blue-grey eyes and blond hair,” and Gaius Octavius (Augustus), the first Roman emperor, had “bright eyes and yellow hair.” Recent analysis of an ancient marble bust of the emperor Caligula found particles of the original pigment trapped in the stone. Experts have restored the colors to show that the demented ruler had ruddy skin and red hair.

http://www.unz.com/article/what-race-wer...nd-romans/

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(05-01-2018 10:04 PM)CUNT GET LAID Wrote:  

Bangkok
Manila
Jakarta

What other cities can a good looking guy have Tinder pussy delivery in?

Akwesi pointed out that some of the big cities in Africa are good. The exotic factor plays well there.

I can confirm some Arab areas are good for European looking men. Even the liberal girls are sexually conservative generally speaking... so it's not easy to get one night stands. However, if you want a wife or GF... many of the girls here will give you a shot.

[Tail Gunner]

(05-01-2018 09:14 AM)gowest Wrote:  

No, Tail Gunner, you missing the point once again. The OP's thread is very useful, because the value of white men keeps falling around the world, while the value of darker men rises more and more.
I would say only Latin America has left for White men and some parts of Asia.
But the end is near.

Another race troll banned. This sad garbage thread finally accomplished something useful.

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Poosy delivery, in Africa, you say?

What of the quality? And diseases?

What African cities is Tinder good in?

[666]

I understand that the majority in this forum are proud white men who let's say tolerate (if at all) everyone else.
Why the Hollywood promotes white men? Because it is run by white men. It's like this forum more or less.
However, when it comes to which race is the most masculine, then white men and Asian men are definitely not first or second. And women as we all know just follow orders and not their instincts.
Also members should not be banned because they are not white, like Gowest, who sounded like a Middle-Easten, if I'm not wrong.
It's just the propaganda machine in the western world they keeps white men value high. Simple.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(05-03-2018 03:33 AM)666 Wrote:  

I understand that the majority in this forum are proud white men who let's say tolerate (if at all) everyone else.
Why the Hollywood promotes white men? Because it is run by white men. It's like this forum more or less.
However, when it comes to which race is the most masculine, then white men and Asian men are definitely not first or second. And women as we all know just follow orders and not their instincts.
It's just the propaganda machine in the western world they keeps their value high. Simple.

Hollywood does not promote white men at all.

It caters minimally to Whites because they buy most of the tickets in the West.

Nigerian Nollywood caters to blacks. Bollywood to Indians and the Chinese and Japanese movies to their respective markets.

The hostile owned cultural marxist Hollywood would love to cast zero Whites in it except in Nazi roles, but then no one would buy their tickets - or at least not enough to justify 200 mio. $ budgets.

It's not a pro-white propaganda machine - it's an anti-White propaganda machine for a white dominated market. If Philippinos spent 10 bio. $ on movies, then most big movie stars would be Philippinos.

[nomadbrah]

Good post Incubus.

You're absolutely right. That we on average might have it easier than other races, doesn't mean we don't have legitimate, uniquely white challenges. And lessening white cultural impact is definitely one of them. Go ask the asian-american guys in the Thailand thread if they think whites have it easier than them.

In any case, Trump is going to do wonders in this regard too.

(04-30-2018 11:35 PM)Incubus Wrote:  

White God Factor or WGF....was destroyed by every white hipster, hostel dweller, sex tourist, and the weekend discount airline euro boner flying into a country for pump and dump over the last 10 years. (this includes USA and Canada flying into ALL of central/south America and Caribbean)

I define WGF as being ....airplane lands and the white gods go fuck an adoring female population.

Of course no part of this world is untouched by white trash and if it is, it probably isn't worth going (to be a hostage)

Every country has "chicks that make themselves available" and "chicks that don't make themselves available PERIOD" (cream of the crop)

This thread should be ..why can't we figure out how to break into that strata "of chicks that don't make themselves available and only fuck the native men"

Every guy wants the best breeding stock of any country and the only way to get to that ...is making a serious time commitment to one culture/learn language. ( AND still unlikely to get the cream of the women crop)

I dislike being put on the defensive just by being white. I search tirelessly to break into the top echelons of women in any country. Particularly the women dismissed as unattainable... in Colombia..Argentina...Philippines.Hong Kong.. Eastern Europe, ...worldwide. basically

I hope we can put aside the WGF and start focusing and sharing on how to get the best of the worlds women for ourselves. To turn bad hangovers and itchy nuts into real quality experiences.

[nola]

(05-03-2018 04:05 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Good post Incubus.

You're absolutely right. That we on average might have it easier than other races, doesn't mean we don't have legitimate, uniquely white challenges. And lessening white cultural impact is definitely one of them. Go ask the asian-american guys in the Thailand thread if they think whites have it easier than them.

In any case, Trump is going to do wonders in this regard too.

(04-30-2018 11:35 PM)Incubus Wrote:  

White God Factor or WGF....was destroyed by every white hipster, hostel dweller, sex tourist, and the weekend discount airline euro boner flying into a country for pump and dump over the last 10 years. (this includes USA and Canada flying into ALL of central/south America and Caribbean)

I define WGF as being ....airplane lands and the white gods go fuck an adoring female population.

Of course no part of this world is untouched by white trash and if it is, it probably isn't worth going (to be a hostage)

Every country has "chicks that make themselves available" and "chicks that don't make themselves available PERIOD" (cream of the crop)

This thread should be ..why can't we figure out how to break into that strata "of chicks that don't make themselves available and only fuck the native men"

Every guy wants the best breeding stock of any country and the only way to get to that ...is making a serious time commitment to one culture/learn language. ( AND still unlikely to get the cream of the women crop)

I dislike being put on the defensive just by being white. I search tirelessly to break into the top echelons of women in any country. Particularly the women dismissed as unattainable... in Colombia..Argentina...Philippines.Hong Kong.. Eastern Europe, ...worldwide. basically

I hope we can put aside the WGF and start focusing and sharing on how to get the best of the worlds women for ourselves. To turn bad hangovers and itchy nuts into real quality experiences.

I think some guys tend to confuse white god factor vs economic god factor. Which I see a lot in EE.

If you are financially astute, of good character, looks in general (not specific) and education with even limited language skills of your chosen area which also includes ability to stay long term you'll almost always do very well anywhere.

More emphasis should be put on how well rounded is the traveler and the type of traveling he is doing.

Any guy can do well anywhere if he works on making himself the full package and has a good social vibe with half decent communication skills.

If you're a fat, dumpy, unsuccessful and autistic (any nationality) (any age) There is no country I've been where you're whiteness with the above characteristics will work is your favor.

[nomadbrah]

(05-03-2018 05:32 PM)nola Wrote:  

If you're a fat, dumpy, unsuccessful and autistic

"M'lady, would you like to see my White God Factor"

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(05-03-2018 05:43 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(05-03-2018 05:32 PM)nola Wrote:  

If you're a fat, dumpy, unsuccessful and autistic

"M'lady, would you like to see my White God Factor"

I know a lot of couples who look like:



Granted this guy is rich and famous... but I know a number of chubby guys who were incels before marrying women from other countries. Is it WGF? I don't know. All I can say is that they are producing children with these guys.

My cousin is a big fat nerdy wierdo. He may not look like much right now... but locked inside of him is still the DNA of conquerors. Men who sailed forth and bent the world to their will. Men who built the worlds greatest civilizations. Men who invented virtually everything that makes the modern world work.

[Il Bersagliere]

^Dude, that's Kevin fucking James. He can have any woman he wants.

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(05-03-2018 10:23 PM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

^Dude, that's Kevin fucking James. He can have any woman he wants.

That's true in Manilla, not in LA.

Chris Farley was probably the most amazing fat guy comedian ever. He could sometimes score dates with nobodies... social climbing interns and such. They all dumped him when he was no longer useful. Usually when they met someone more famous and handsome... each time he would fall back into the loving arms of hookers and cocaine. Don't tell me James can have any fucking starlet he wants! It's patently untrue. If he dated some hot famous bitch... she'd be fucking Chris Hemsworth behind his back. If you don't know the nature of women by this point... then what are you doing here?

[Il Bersagliere]

(05-03-2018 11:27 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(05-03-2018 10:23 PM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

^Dude, that's Kevin fucking James. He can have any woman he wants.

That's true in Manilla, not in LA.

Chris Farley was probably the most amazing fat guy comedian ever. He could sometimes score dates with nobodies... social climbing interns and such. They all dumped him when he was no longer useful. Usually when they met someone more famous and handsome... each time he would fall back into the loving arms of hookers and cocaine. Don't tell me James can have any fucking starlet he wants! It's patently untrue. If he dated some hot famous bitch... she'd be fucking Chris Hemsworth behind his back. If you don't know the nature of women by this point... then what are you doing here?

Maybe it's time to take a break from the forum dude.

As far as fat, schlubby dudes in Hollywood, just look at James' former co-star Patton Oswalt. He's been getting hot women and was engaged recently I believe. Some guys bang all the hot IHop waitresses and then settle for a homely Filipino woman with no ass or tits to be the mother of their children. Those guys have it figured out because they can separate the values of those status-hungry whores in Hollywood with something more 'manageable'.

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(05-04-2018 12:09 AM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

Maybe it's time to take a break from the forum dude.
As far as fat, schlubby dudes in Hollywood, just look at James' former co-star Patton Oswalt. He's been getting hot women and was engaged recently I believe. Some guys bang all the hot IHop waitresses and then settle for a homely Filipino woman with no ass or tits to be the mother of their children. Those guys have it figured out because they can separate the values of those status-hungry whores in Hollywood with something more 'manageable'.

I'm just being realistic. Certain guys have a higher SMV outside the US where women judge them on a different scale.

"A homely Filipino woman with no ass or tits". You know what... I like the women that like me... and throughout my life Filipino women have treated me very well. I've done well with American women with big tits and asses, but it always required an exhausting amount of work, the constant barrage of shit tests, and their lack of going the extra mile for me, have all left me feeling apathetic towards them as a group. So, at this point in my life, yeah I would take a skinny filipino woman over big fake tities any day.

One last thing I will say. I know they get a lot of hate, but African women have also treated me very good. Several of the best relationships of my life. Funny though that the best one was short, skinny, flat, and not much of an ass.

[Kish]

Old bit from Louis CK

[TigerTim]

(05-02-2018 12:28 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

(05-02-2018 01:35 AM)TigerTim Wrote:  

(05-01-2018 09:49 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

(05-01-2018 08:32 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  

As I previously wrote, SOuthern Europeans are much Closer to Near Easterns and even to Many Latin americans (talking about here about south Americans, not central america or Mexico, who represent 95% of all the hispanics in the States) appearance Wise, than they are to people above the Alps.

Southern Europe was invaded by the Moors. Or, if you are a Seinfeld fan, by the Moops.

Yes, it might explain the look of many south Italians ( nappy hair, pseudo egyptian looks), However SOuthern Europeans have always been a lot darker than people north of the alps. Anywhere heavily romanized has been always darker, romans were dark period, so ancient greeks.

While the history is not perfectly clear, you make huge assumptions not backed by historical fact as contemporaneously documented in the ancient world.

Quote:

R. Peterson’s fine study, The Classical World (1985), which includes an analysis of 43 Greek, and 32 Roman figures, is persuasive. Dr. Peterson explains that the Romans painted their death masks to preserve the color, as well as the shape, of their ancestors’ faces. Blue eyes, fair hair, and light complexions are common. A good example of racial type is the famous portrait bust of Lucius Junius Brutus, the founder of the Roman Republic, which dates from the fourth century BC. Brutus’ face is identifiably Germanic, and so is the color of his eyes. The sculptor used ivory for the whites and blue glass for the pupils. Or take the famous marble head of a patrician woman from the late first century AD, which is often included in illustrated surveys of imperial Rome to demonstrate the fashion for curled hair. Her features are typically northern European: a delicate, aquiline nose, high cheekbones, and a face angular and long rather than round. Another classic example is the famous fresco from the Villa of the Mysteries in Pompeii, which shows four women undergoing ritual flagellation. They are tall, light-skinned, and brown-haired.

There is also evidence from Roman names. Rutilus means “red, gold, auburn” and stems from the verb rutilo, which means “to shine with a reddish gleam.” Rufus, meaning red, was a common Roman cognomen or nickname used for a personal characteristic, such as red hair. The Flavians were an aristocratic clan whose family name was derived from flavus, meaning golden-yellow. The Flaminians were another noble family whose clan name came fromflamma, meaning flame, suggesting red hair.

According to Plutarch, Marcus Porcius Cato had “red hair and grey eyes,” Lucius Cornelius Sulla, the general and dictator, had “blue-grey eyes and blond hair,” and Gaius Octavius (Augustus), the first Roman emperor, had “bright eyes and yellow hair.” Recent analysis of an ancient marble bust of the emperor Caligula found particles of the original pigment trapped in the stone. Experts have restored the colors to show that the demented ruler had ruddy skin and red hair.

http://www.unz.com/article/what-race-wer...nd-romans/

Look at ancient roman and greek statues.. they look just like modern Southern Europeans, they dont look like Nordic or Germanic peoples. Also perception of what was light or dark is highly subjective, probably by roman standards anything which wasnt black or darkbrown was light, I have seen many times italians and spanish refered as blond but they would be dark haired for northern european standards. Also the appearance of somar part of the aristocracy wouldnt change the fact that the overwhelmingly majority of romans were dark