[Matta]

On online Dating sites(Tinder,POF)

Should you:

-Smile in the profile face picture

or

-Be serious not smilling

I read several different opinion on this, Some say to NOT smile while other say to smile. Some say if you smile, You look less Sexual and that some girls may not be interested in you.

If you dont smile you look more sexual and that turn on some women...

I dont know, What get more Sucess , guys what do you think?

[luckyfever]

If I remember correctly there are websites that've done unofficial studies on just this, and statistically it's better to not be smiling.

That being said, I think the framing of the picture, the angles/lighting, your pose will have a much bigger impact. But all else being equal, you're better going with the statistics and not smiling.

[MKDAWUSS]

It depends on what sort of smile you can pull off.

[RatInTheWoods]

If you have a smile like a burnt out fusebox then put on a manly sneer instead.

[makaveli]

My method is trail and error.
See what works.

Try different pictures and see what gets the best responses

[getdownonit]

Smile without teeth

[PapayaTapper]

Search feature is your friend if you let be

Handsdown the here is the definitive datasheet on online photos

Attracting Girls Online: A Guide to Good Photos, Why They Matter, and How To Get Them by Blurred Sevens

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[quote='BlurredSevens' pid='958337' dateline='1424059035']
When it comes to online game, guys spend 99% of their time talking about 1% of things that matter.

Guys talk about openers, the culture of online dating, which cities are best for Tinder, texting, what to put in their profile, what to do if a girl goes cold, etc.

Those things tally up to about 1% of what’s important in online game.

What makes up the other 99%?

Exactly ONE thing.

Your photos.

There are 7,700 posts and 2.3 million views between the Tinder and OKC threads, and yet nobody is talking about photos. There are even now multiple threads about bots that guys have built in order to get more matches online. This is missing the point entirely, and demonstrates a lack of game knowledge. Many guys still think that if you spit a few lines then girls are going to line up to fuck you.

In my opinion, if you don’t have professional photos, then you haven’t tried online game. You showed up to the stadium but you’ve been sitting in the locker room the entire game, talking about the weather.

Laugh if you want, but online game (Tinder specifically) is the real deal. Models, actresses, and hot, horny 19-year-old college girls around the globe are using Tinder to get laid. If you want to fuck them, you need to get your shit together. That selfie from the bar in 2009 just isn't going to cut it; I don’t care how clever your bio is.

This is the golden age of easy pussy and you're blowing it with shitty photos.

So I’m going to break it down for the forum, and show you why good photos matter, give you examples, then walk you through getting your own high-quality photos taken.

What this thread is not: a debate about whether looks matter. That’s been discussed ad nauseam on the forum, so please don’t bring it up here.
What this thread is: how to look like your BEST self in photos, and why it matters.

The vast majority of guys doing online game fail to understand that girls are EMOTIONAL creatures. Girls respond to emotional stimuli and with online dating, that stimuli is visual. Online dating is NOT your canned opener, your witty profile, your age, your location, or whether you have a six-pack. It’s whether or not the girl FEELS something when she first sees you.

To get girls online, you need to stimulate them visually. You need to hook them with an interesting image. NOT an image of you doing something interesting, but a photo of you that is itself interesting.

That is the key difference.

It's *very* different than saying you need to be attractive. Being attractive is great, but nothing trumps a photograph that evokes an emotion, and you don't need to be attractive to do that.

Need proof?

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I’m going to kick things off with a picture of one of the ugliest known humans on the planet: Steve Buscemi. His face is a train wreck, he’s scrawny, and he generally looks like a 13-year old boy trapped in a 65-year old man’s body. Or maybe the other way around. Either way, he’s fucked.


Here is what he looks like when caught off guard:



Not so good, eh?

BUT, put him in a tailored suit, get him with a professional photographer that understands lighting, and he turns into the most interesting looking man in the world:



All of a sudden, the ugliest person known to man transforms into a person that looks like a guy you’d want to meet, and who generally doesn’t give a shit what you think of him.

For a girl, he turns into a man that they want to figure out: “Who is this guy? Why is he wearing that? Why doesn’t he look like all the other guys I know? Who took the photo?” etc.

THAT is what I’m talking about with “visual stimulation.” A good photo gets the hamster spinning. He’s still an ugly motherfucker, but the photograph is interesting in and of itself, and that’s all you need to hook a girl online. The fact that he’s ugly doesn’t even register in the girls head - they’re interested because he makes them FEEL something. In this case, it’s intrigue. How could you see that photo and not want to know more about this guy? Game is still paramount, but not if you can't hook girls in the first place.

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Here is what most guys look like online:



That's a pretty sorry lot. I can hear the pussy drying up from here. Looks like the most boring, average crew of guys out there. They might not be, but their photos certainly won't be getting any girls hooked.

1. Abs guy with low quality photo. Thinks that girls want to fuck because he has a 6-pack. Cliche gym photo. Misses all the subtlety of game principles.

2. Outdoorsy nerdy guy. Girls probably like this guy in real life, but his photo makes him look like a dweeb. Weird angle, low quality image. Is that a bow and arrow in his hand? Come on.

3. Dude might be attractive, but he’s alienating girls with the weird dog pic, and is hiding his entire body. Bad lighting too - his skin looks orange. What’s in the background, is he at a wedding? Seems like a dime-a-dozen bar bro. Why would a girl want to meet him?

4. Average looking dude with a stupid car selfie and hiding a man’s most important features: his eyes. Nothing interesting in this photo AT ALL. Why would anyone want to talk to him? Hell, he doesn’t even have a cool dog.

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Let’s contrast this with another photo of the infinitely ugly Steve Buscemi:



Now, that is a cool looking dude! The photo is crisp and high quality, indicating that he is a high quality man. His presence is dominating, he looks different than other guys out there, he’s dressed well, his expression is intriguing, and most importantly: he’s not trying too hard. He’s just a cool looking motherfucker and you can feel his vibe through the image.

With a photo like that, do you think his online dating profile would need a witty bio? Or a clever high-energy opening line? No way. That shit is irrelevant, because in that one single photo, he looks more interesting than every other guy in a 50 mile radius.


So let’s recap:
- Girls are emotional creatures.
- Therefore, you have to hook girls emotionally.
- Online, the only way to do that is visually.
- Therefore, you need photos that are visually interesting and evoke emotion.
- Game and building attraction comes in after you have hooked them; just like the real world. But if you don’t hook, you don’t have an opportunity to build attraction.

Conclusion: GET PROFESSIONAL PHOTOS!

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Hopefully, you’re convinced that you don’t need to be a model to look interesting in photos. If Steve Buscemi can do it, so can you. If you’re uglier than him, check out RVF’s own game success story from a guy who is *medically* facially disfigured, and learn how even he is able to bang girls! "Game Works, Even for the Facially Disfigured"

Naturally, you need a good photographer to get good photos. A lot of guys think “professional photos” means getting your headshot taken like you did for the college yearbook, with a photographer who is 60 years old and overweight. That’s NOT what I’m talking about here. I’m also NOT talking about photoshop, deceiving photos, digital manipulation, etc.

I’m talking about photographers that can bring out your best qualities in a single image. Photographers that are fashionable themselves, and that pay attention to modern trends in style and imagery, since that is their job. It’s not easy, but there are capable photographers in every city in the world. Instagram has lowered the perceived value of photographers, but you still can’t beat a professional at his own game.

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Types of photos you can get:
It’s important that your photos are congruent with your personality. The Steve Buscemi example is a good example for someone who is naturally an introvert, mysterious, etc.

But maybe that’s not your style. Maybe you are a high-energy guy, or a nerdy guy, and so you need to get images that reflect your vibe and aren’t projecting a fake version of you.

I’ve decided to take those 4 Tinder images above, and find professionally taken photographs of guys that look like them.

You can decide for yourself which photos are going to attract more girls.

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Shirtless guy looks like a dumbass in the gym. But he's got a great body, so no point in hiding it. Do it right and he's got a panty-wetting photo that doesn't make him look like a tool: