[HankMoody]

First off, a predicate. In my opinion, really good sex requires some level of both trust and comfort. I will not try and engage in "rough" sex until me and the girl know each other and have some level of rapport. Perhaps your experiences are different, but I have more fun once they know me and trust me. That allows me to take things a bit further without running the risk of a #metoo allegation. (i.e., once me and a girl have a sexual relationship, I'll occasionally ask her how she's doing, how her cat is, how her job is, how her parents are doing, a random link about something stupid, etc.)

With that said, every woman I've ever banged has come to enjoy rough sex. I usually start light, and then let it escalate as we get more comfortable with each other. From there, they always come back for more. I'd say about 80% of my plates have stuck around in one way or another. Once they break up with their boyfriend, they're always back at Hank's house for some reason.

It's like clockwork.

The key is twofold -- 1. Give them great sex. 2. Develop enough comfort and rapport with them without becoming too common or too available.

So... at this risk of this post being a more graphic one, this is the stuff you can do to make sex way more exciting for everyone...

1. When you're banging, put her legs on your shoulders and grab her ankles. Get them way up there. I love this position. Then turn her over and get her from behind. When you're coming from behind, grab her ass and smack it as you're banging. I have found these are the two positions women like the best. Always grab her wrists and ankles, or anything else you can. Grabbing an extremity always turns the heat way up. Whether she's blowing you or you're banging, grab an extremity.

2. Put your fingers in her mouth. I usually use my thumb (for example, as she's riding you cowboy, grab her by the hair and put your thumb in her mouth).

3. Grab her by the neck (not to hurt her, just enough to keep things interesting). When she's riding you cowboy, grab the neck. As you're banging her missionary, put your hands on her neck. When you're banging from behind, put your hands on her neck. Then maybe put your fingers in her mouth and/or pull her hair.

4. With you standing, get her on her knees. ("Baby, I want to see you on your hands and knees.")

5. Restraints. Handcuffs, ties, blindfolds. This shit drives them off the wall, and it's a lot of fun. Tie them up and fuck their brains out. If you want to go further, ball gag, whips, etc. You can also use your belt, especially when they take it off you. Also, make them undo your pants and take your belt off.

6. Pull her hair. This can be during sex, during a blowjob, whatever. Just grab their hair (again, not for pain, just enough so it feels passionate).

7. Spank them. I've never been a fan of face slapping, but a smack on the ass makes things really hot.

8. Talk dirty. Issue commands. Off the top of my head -- "I want you to do XYZ" "I want to feel your tits on my thighs". "I want to see you on your knees." Encourage them to talk dirty to you. A lot of girls are shy about this initially, but once they get going, holy shit... ("Tell me about badly you want me to XYZ...")

9. Completely dominate them. I'm trying to find a good way to articulate this, but you should control every single aspect of sex. When it's done, they should feel completely and totally dominated. Like you just pulled them into your bedroom and did lots of dirty things to them. That is what keeps them coming back.

10. My biggest piece of advice is don't be shy. Get her on her ands and knees, put her legs on your shoulders, and tell her you're going to titty fuck her at your will. After she takes your pants off (unbuckles your belt and takes your pants off), tie her up with your belt and blindfold her with your shirt. Pardon my candor, but that is what she wants. Not "Um, would you be okay if I did ABC...?" or just some simple missionary stuff. I have never had a girl say something went too far, or that was too much. It's always been "that was so fucking hot." Don't even be afraid of telling her you want a threesome or that kind of crazy shit. They never hold any of that stuff against you. Quite the contrary.

All that aside, in my opinion, there is a comfort element. This is the way I do it...

1. Never get pissed or angry with them. They get a boyfriend? Cool, good stuff, glad to hear you're happy (they'll be broken up in 3 months and she'll be back in your bedroom anyway, whatever.) They don't want to come over tonight? No problemo. I keep everything very light and easy. They're never worried I'm going to go off the rails at them, because I'm not. This kind of attitude makes women feel safe around you. Everyone is safe and cool at the Hank Moody dome. Everything is fun, nothing is too serious.

2. Use a little bit of comfort game. "How is your mom?" "How is your cat?" "What happened at work today?" Showing just the littlest amount of interest in a woman's life makes a world of difference in terms of building rapport and comfort. I am a very light and sporadic texter, but I will send some comfort texts like that once we're banging. You can literally just ask basic questions like "how is [something]?" Suddenly you're the most thoughtful man in the universe.

3. One of my favorite terms is use of the word "kiddo." It's almost an immediate comfort builder. "hey kiddo" "you okay kiddo?"

4. However, I only use "kiddo" when I'm talking about personal stuff - her family, her cat, her job, whatever. But when it's sexualized, use "babe" "baby", etc. Do not call her "kiddo" during sex, call her "babe", "baby" "darling", "smoke show" etc.

5. All that said, don't become too common or too available. Go dark on them sometimes and then randomly reappear. Maintain a level of mystery. If you build too much comfort, you become ordinary and available. You have to build enough comfort, but not too much.

[Repo]

(04-14-2018 11:58 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  

. Do not call her "kiddo" during sex, call her "babe", "baby" "darling", "smoke show" etc.

Or call her your dirty little slut, tell her she's a nasty bitch, say you love when she gets nasty, and if your afraid to slap her with your hand then slap her face with your dick while she's on her knees.

[RatInTheWoods]

Women are shit at sex, they think turning up is all they have to do.

There's nothing difficult or unique about being good in the sack either, a little theory and a lot of effort is all it takes.

[Rocha]

Too much verbalization on OP. Just manhandle them and thats enough.

[Oz.]

(04-14-2018 06:01 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Women are shit at sex, they think turning up is all they have to do.

Disagree, I have smashed some girls that would leave you

[RexImperator]

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[Winston Wolfe]

(04-14-2018 11:58 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  

9. Completely dominate them. I'm trying to find a good way to articulate this, but you should control every single aspect of sex. When it's done, they should feel completely and totally dominated. Like you just pulled them into your bedroom and did lots of dirty things to them. That is what keeps them coming back.

I once had a mini relationship with a girl who I even controlled the orgasms of.

To me, few things are hotter than banging the shit out of a girl and having her beg you for permission to orgasm. Bring them to the edge and then stop, over and over again. Or keep banging away while denying them the orgasm, looking deep in their eyes. You'd be surprised how long they can hold it off.

[Kharn]

(04-14-2018 08:44 PM)Winston Wolfe Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 11:58 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  

9. Completely dominate them. I'm trying to find a good way to articulate this, but you should control every single aspect of sex. When it's done, they should feel completely and totally dominated. Like you just pulled them into your bedroom and did lots of dirty things to them. That is what keeps them coming back.

I once had a mini relationship with a girl who I even controlled the orgasms of.

To me, few things are hotter than banging the shit out of a girl and having her beg you for permission to orgasm. Bring them to the edge and then stop, over and over again. Or keep banging away while denying them the orgasm, looking deep in their eyes. You'd be surprised how long they can hold it off.

How do you do that? Everytime I see a girl cumming I do it too, can't hold it, seeing them squirting and knowing I'm the reason for that makes me feel proud for some reason.
You must have some really powerful self control to be able to just stop it like that.

[Tytalus]

The best book I've ever read is "Sex God Method" by Daniel Rose.

https://www.scribd.com/document/31764113...dition-pdf

He explains the four pillars of Dominance, Emotion, Variety, and Immersion. Most sex books have little tidbits and a lot of anatomy diagrams. That is helpful, but not always useful to know.

[churros]

(04-14-2018 10:00 PM)Tytalus Wrote:  

The best book I've ever read is "Sex God Method" by Daniel Rose.

https://www.scribd.com/document/31764113...dition-pdf

He explains the four pillars of Dominance, Emotion, Variety, and Immersion. Most sex books have little tidbits and a lot of anatomy diagrams. That is helpful, but not always useful to know.

Thanks for the pawywall

[Winston Wolfe]

(04-14-2018 09:52 PM)Kharn Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 08:44 PM)Winston Wolfe Wrote:  

(04-14-2018 11:58 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  

9. Completely dominate them. I'm trying to find a good way to articulate this, but you should control every single aspect of sex. When it's done, they should feel completely and totally dominated. Like you just pulled them into your bedroom and did lots of dirty things to them. That is what keeps them coming back.

I once had a mini relationship with a girl who I even controlled the orgasms of.

To me, few things are hotter than banging the shit out of a girl and having her beg you for permission to orgasm. Bring them to the edge and then stop, over and over again. Or keep banging away while denying them the orgasm, looking deep in their eyes. You'd be surprised how long they can hold it off.

How do you do that? Everytime I see a girl cumming I do it too, can't hold it, seeing them squirting and knowing I'm the reason for that makes me feel proud for some reason.
You must have some really powerful self control to be able to just stop it like that.

Let me first clarify that I can't and don't do this with every girl, because there's several factors at play, some of which are out of your control. Obviously your sex already has to be good to begin with also. She has to enjoy your dick. A good indicator for this is if she comes back for more after your first time having sex.

Then still: some girls simply can't orgasm, or have great difficulty orgasming from vaginal penetration.

Some girls just aren't into this kind of stuff too (doesn't mean you can't dominate them; some girls are into slapping and handcuffs but telling them to hold off their orgasms just turns them off).

It's also not a matter of fucking a girl for the first time and suddenly blurting out "oh by the way you're not allowed to cum".

Establishing the desired dynamic usually takes me several sessions.

So, if you've found yourself a girl who is into you and is also able to cum on your dick fairly easily, it usually goes something like this:

First, you need to be able to read the girl and figure out when she's having an orgasm or is getting close to it. This differs greatly from girl to girl. With some girls it's clear as day when they're cumming. Others will claim after sex that they did in fact cum, but you never had a clue.

During sex, after she's had an orgasm, say "you just came, didn't you". Get her to confirm it, get her to say it out loud. If she doesn't do it, literally tell her "Say you just came. Say it."

Her: "Yes, I just came."
You: "It felt good, didn't it?"
Her: "Yes."
You: "You want more, don't you?"
Her: "Yes."
You: "Next time you're going to tell me when you're cumming, aren't you?"
Her: "Yes." (all the while during this conversation you're still pounding away. Yes-ladder game while fucking.)

She has to comply to every step, else it's not gonna work. Eventually she has to tell you out loud that she's cumming, without you asking her about it first.

Until at some point she announces she's cumming and you say "no you're not." and stop the stimulation. Pull out or stay inside her, whatever; but stop fucking.

Slowly get back to it and tell her "no more cumming without permission." Deny her a few times until she's super close and basically begging you for it, and then allow her.

After a while of doing this and training her, she'll start doing it automatically.

Regarding self control, yes that's an issue sometimes. Obviously the hotter the girl or the better her pussy feels, the harder it is. Sometimes I can't contain myself either and hit that point of no return.

What I sometimes do when I'm getting close is just pull out and finger blast her for a while. Or I put on a vibrating cock ring and just stay inside her with the ring pressed against her clit.

This different kind of stimulation can even catch them off guard and they'll start begging for an orgasm straight away cause they can't handle it.

At this point, it becomes a matter of how cruel your mood is on that particular day...

[Donfitz007]

Great information from everybody! How about the theory of switching it up and actually "making Love" i don't mean have the emotions of love but actually doing alot of kissing, biting, holding, eye contact, even switching up the tempo and power of the thrust?

I enjoy both types of sex but which one has them hooked?

[questor70]

I see sex sort of like improvisational dance. The important thing is not to follow a preset template and to develop your own style.

It's like, music only has 12 notes (and even then, one is just the octave) but think of all the combinations possible. In sex you have various building blocks to work with and you need to put it together on-the-fly in a unique way each and every time.

My style is to build mutual tension up to a high plateau and keep it there. It's my self-taught tantra (whether it's technically tanta or not). The reason why I want it this way is I usually feel really let down by how brief the pleasure is from sex. I'd rather have longer individual sessions than multiple short ones with awkward gaps of feeling impotent inbetween. The best way to get the most out of it for me is to edge as long as possible and periodically blow off steam with no/low-stimulation ejaculations that allow me to resume. There's a porn star by the name of Ryan Madison who does something similar, only he does it a lot rougher than I do. I think this is the upper limit of how far male sexual hardware can go.

If you're with a woman who has had good sex before, even if you perform well, you're still interchangeable and replaceable in her eyes. But if you do things she didn't think were even possible, if she thinks you're some sort of freak of nature, then you can sink in a hook that will keep her coming back for more even if she's written you off as LTR material. It's not something I do specifically for that purpose. My main agenda is just to extract as much pleasure as possible for myself. That's just the byproduct.

[Repo]

(04-15-2018 12:37 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  

Great information from everybody! How about the theory of switching it up and actually "making Love" i don't mean have the emotions of love but actually doing alot of kissing, biting, holding, eye contact, even switching up the tempo and power of the thrust?

I enjoy both types of sex but which one has them hooked?

You can do this kissing, holding, and eye contact while still brutalizing her.

For example, while on top of her, look her in the eyes as one of your arms chokes her, and the other pins one of her arms down while holding her hand.

Or kiss her neck gently, while you smack the shit out her ass.

Don't think of these as two types of sex, but rather combine the two into an overwhelming experience. That is how you get them hooked.

[PapayaTapper]

Add this trick to your repertoire. I'm calling it the "Slip In Slide"

[MMM]

This is a good thread. Damn you, Hank Moody, I want to rep you again, but I cant, you thread dropping mofo.

[BlastbeatCasanova]

I like everything OP said, I utilize a lot of that stuff. First time sex with a rando pick-up is sick but I've had a plate for a year and the sex has gotten increasingly better. One thing I use that adds to the fun is coconut oil

[gework]

Gework's Twelve Rules for Orgasms.

1) I'm very standoffish with women; in the kind of way which they will soon complain you are not emotionally nourishing them, but at the same time has them pulling your dick out when they're out of order. You're a dark mystery they are addicted to finding out the secrets of but never will.

2) Reduction: You'll need time to do this. Make them feel very comfortable with you, so they become comfortable being at their most feminine and vulnerable. When they do that, present yourself as the strength that they aren't. Tell her she's your baby girl and tease her about the sexual desires that are deep within her. When you find out what they are, tell her how greedy she is. She should get used to calling you "her man" and she should start to tell you of all the things she wants him to do to this innocent, little girl.

3) Touch: you don't need to Patrick Bateman to let her know who is in control. Move your hand over her softly, slowly, but firmly. Your not thinking of anything, you're just being confident that your soft strength is enough to make her melt and forget herself.



4) Pinning: If you have the strength, after showering them take both her legs near the knees and pin her to the wall. If you can't do that you can probably hold her by her ass. Place your tongue at the bottom of her opening and slowly lick up to the top. Devour her. Let her slip down and rest her on your knee. Insert fingers and increase speed until it sounds like a shoe squelching in mud. A girl who is open should blow here. Take her to the bed and leave her hanging off the end a little, pin her down by her knees. Lean back a little to angle yourself up against her spot and vibrate your thumb/hand on her clit at 180rpm.

5) Make the earth move: Put her in a chair and pin her legs against the back of the chair. It's not the most natural position, but it looks hot. Bang her in the chair against the wall, make the chair rattle, let the legs come off the floor. Bang her face/back against the wall. Bang her headboard against the wall. Piledrive her into the floor. Move her around as you want. Carry her round. Bang her upside down and make her head spin.

6) Overwhelmed: Just when she thinks you're control over her is ending, it increases. You've moved her into a new position. You're back inside her and your hands are back softly grabbing and exploring her, fingers going in her mouth, running across her face and neck. Don't leave her with a moment that you're not trying to overload her senses and drives.

7) Desire: Loose yourself in her; she will get off on how much she feels desired by her man.

8) Slapping: After some time within pull yourself out and slap your dick on her pussy, poke it in a little and rub it quickly from side to side in her opening. Slap it again, hard. Rub it from side to side and up and down. Slap. If she is open to you, she will cum.

9) Vibrating: When she's on her back, enter here leaning backwards so your dick is rubbing her spot. Enter 3" and vibrate yourself in and out of her about 1" as fast as you can. Take a hand and run it as fast as you can over her clit. If she's open to you, she will gush.

10) Piledriver: This is the best position to conqueror her in. There is no escape for her and a number of ways to pin her down. It's also good to quickly segue into finger banging her into gushing on herself.

11) The dark: Incorporate your dark side into yourself. If you feel ashamed of your lust it's going to start coming out as weird shit, odd facial expressions and frantic gropes. No woman wants to be taken by an indecisive, soy-based wreck. Be, do not think. Counterwise, the feminine craves strength and safety. Most guys would be able to frighten the shit out of a woman with a BDSM nightmare - letting yourself be the dark. It will leave you feeling like shit after, unless you are a psychopath. You'll feel best taking herself and yourself to the no man's land between strength and safety.

12) Transform your desire to blow your beans into a desire to get her off and instead derive your pleasure from how good at that you are and how much control you have over her. Then when you do blow your beans it will be an Olympic load and sense of accomplishment.

Forgive me, father. <- Perfect 3)

[Roardog]

(04-14-2018 06:01 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Women are shit at sex, they think turning up is all they have to do.

This is true of a lot of women, particularly hot women in my experience.
They seem to think that they don't really have to do much, that their very presence should turn you on. Probably because guys have always chased them and kept coming back despite them being ordinary in bed.

Some however are very good at sex. One girl I banged told me that her mother told her "if you want to keep a man, you better learn to cook and suck dick". If only all girls had mothers that wise.

[Donfitz007]

Anybody care to do a post about Seduction? For example their strategy of inviting her over to finally in the bed? I did a search of the word but most of the threads seem to mean the whole process

[yankeetravels]

(04-14-2018 06:01 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Women are shit at sex, they think turning up is all they have to do.

There's nothing difficult or unique about being good in the sack either, a little theory and a lot of effort is all it takes.

I heavily disagree with this. My notch count is a little lower than other guys on the forum, but it's still high and diverse enough compared to the average man to be able to tell good sex from bad sex. You're right about some women, they will starfish. BUT, that is definitely not all women. I've fucked a handful of girls that were AMAZING in the bedroom, especially compared to some other lays. Though, I've fucked girls from very sexual countries and ones from not so sexual countries. The difference is pretty clear. But, even the ones not as good in bed from more sexual countries put in a more noticeable effort than the starfish girls.

Honestly, I've even had good sex from 2-3 women that would starfish just because their pussies were wet easier and they were always ready to fuck, or they just specialized in other areas.

(04-16-2018 02:33 AM)Roardog Wrote:  

Some however are very good at sex. One girl I banged told me that her mother told her "if you want to keep a man, you better learn to cook and suck dick". If only all girls had mothers that wise.

Not only mothers, but the cultures they are raised in too play a big part of this. Filipinas in my particular history are big on this. The ones that have girl game will go out of their way to cook, clean, be great in bed, and take care of you, all without you asking to lock you down. My former main over there was unbelievable at all four. So much so that I kept her around for a couple of months versus other girls that didn't do this over there I pumped and dumped. A competitive environment or traditional environment can and will bring this out of the higher quality girls.

The old saying "lady in the street, freak in the streets" really applies strongly when considering all of this.

[HankMoody]

(04-17-2018 07:55 AM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  

Anybody care to do a post about Seduction? For example their strategy of inviting her over to finally in the bed? I did a search of the word but most of the threads seem to mean the whole process

I'm going to write something more involved, but this is basically the way it works...

Frankly, I've always followed the Mystery Method. It's easy. You determine whether there is attraction, build a bit of comfort, and then get her back to your place.

Seduction is actually the easiest part.

From the get go, she has to be attracted to you. You're too short for her tastes? You're out. (I'm short -- I get blown out because of this sometimes). She thinks your style is unattractive? You're out. You're too big / too small / too fat / too thin? You're out. There has to be some level of physical attraction from the start. If you're generally not generating attraction, you gotta get your ass in the gym and buy better clothes (get them from Ross or Marshalls if you can't afford them, just make sure they fit and look good -- no one can tell where your clothes are from). Sorry, but there is a physical component. It is what it is.

Once it's established that you're both attracted to each other, you build a bit of comfort. You don't want to build too much comfort (i.e. texting her every second of the day about how you're fixing the fax machine or trying to figure out why the internet is down), but you build enough comfort to establish that you're relatively socially competent. The easiest way to do this is just occasionally ask basic questions via text message, and when you take her out, go to places where you know people. Talk / text her, but not too much. Keep it really light and easy.

Next, and really the most important part, is "kino". Touch her, hold her hand, kiss her, put your hand in the small of her back, stroke her hair, and rub her back a little bit. Be sexual with her without going over the top (prior to the bang -- once you've banged you can get very sexual). Call her "babe" "girl" and "love." Once you've been hanging out, even smack her ass in public. When it's on, it's on.

After you've hung out and made it sexual, it all basically falls into place. "Babe, let's go hang out at my house. Because you know what I want to do to you? ...I want to stuff pizza in your mouth and watch YouTube. Gonna be Dominoes, though." (you're mixing a bit of sexualization with sarcasm). If your kino was solid, they're itching to get back to your place. Again, the key here is kino. How physical were your interactions? I cannot stress this enough. The key to seduction is making sure your interactions are sexualized from the start.

When you get her back to your place, put your arm around her, and kiss her on the forehead and on the lips. Stroke her hair, and put your hands on her face. Put your thumb in her mouth. No need to be shy, just straight up go for it. She didn't come over to your place to watch YouTube, and she knows that. By this point, sexual tension is so high that it's a done deal.

Then you can get a little bit more bold. "Alright baby girl, let's go upstairs. I need to see you naked."

To quote Gordon Ramsey, "let the knife do the work." If there is attraction, kino, and you've built just enough comfort, seduction actually tends to be the easiest part. They're so primed for the bang that you don't have to do all that much work to get to the finish line.

[ulterior]

Best missionary trick I’ve tried lately, with the same level of success with each girl since, is a modification of OP’s grab-her-neck-during-missionary.

What I do is reach underneath with one or both hands and grab her ass cheeks and spread them. Girls aren’t expecting their ass to be grabbed and spread during missionary, and I always get a loud, enthusiastic response. Reaching underneath her so far forces you forward and yields a deeper thrust. And if you use one hand, the other can grab the back of her neck simultaneously.

Another great, but less-universally applicable trick during missionary, is to lick/bite/mouth-caress the area behind her ear, and aggressively. I’ve had more than a few girls go electric at this, the area being a sensitive zone.

[Filbert]

(04-14-2018 11:58 AM)HankMoody Wrote:  

First off, a predicate. In my opinion, really good sex requires some level of both trust and comfort. I will not try and engage in "rough" sex until me and the girl know each other and have some level of rapport. Perhaps your experiences are different, but I have more fun once they know me and trust me. That allows me to take things a bit further without running the risk of a #metoo allegation. (i.e., once me and a girl have a sexual relationship, I'll occasionally ask her how she's doing, how her cat is, how her job is, how her parents are doing, a random link about something stupid, etc.)

I wonder if you have any precautions against false rape accusations, like cameras, etc. if something goes wrong with "rough" sex?

[MongolianAbroad]

(04-14-2018 06:09 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

Too much verbalization on OP. Just manhandle them and thats enough.

^^ This.