[PharaohRa]

(04-05-2018 02:55 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

It's an incredibly troubling development that the mainstream media is now actively doxxing wrong-thinkers!

Anyone who is even remotely effective and somwhere on the wrong side of the wrong-think spectrum is fair game it seems.

It reminded me of the campaign against Roosh.

But Antifa-scum can post the most vicious content.
Islamists can post and disseminate the most violent propaganda.
Leftists can do literally no wrong, can threaten someone with murder and violence while their videos are fully monetized on Youtube and Twitter is not lifting a finger.

But woe someone is a wrong-thinker and is anywhere near as effective as this guy.

While I am talking here. I need to change my alias....

Zel, this is not so much a case of wrongthink as it is a case of certain members of the Alt-Right turning on those who are not "Nazi enough". Even worse, Paul Nehlen was the one who did it, and I actually liked the guy so much that I even donated to his campaign to oust Paul "Lyin" Ryan. What scum, and all because they were jealous of him, and it was so opportunistic for the (((usual suspects))) to take advantage of an opportunity when they see one since it is in their nature to encourage it. What we are seeing here are the same issues that plagued George Lincoln Rockwell, William Luther Pierce and yes, even David Duke in the 1950s to 1980s when they tried to take white nationalism mainstream. They would get to a point where they would mainstream their cause only to be sabotaged by the low IQ miscreants who only want to LARP egged on by the Feds and (((European Style Socialists))).

Furthermore, I have read about Ricky Vaughn's doxing on the chans and the (((Neo-Nazis))) who post there are feasting on this doxx the same way hyenas feast on their prey. Utterly disgusting, and all because they want to live on some kind of LARPing delusion to tie white nationalism to their view of (((Nazism))). Hell, they even think Andrew Anglin isn't up to their tastes, even though his site is polarizing.

[PharaohRa]

(04-05-2018 06:48 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

We are still in the shallow end of the pool and few of us here have any generational experience of what the deep end is truly like. I'm not talking about being doxxed and losing your livelihood or social circle. This path leads all the way to black bags over the head and unmarked mass graves, perpetrated by the Left and inevitably the Right in retribution.

Those who think they can dox people with impunity, be they Right wing spectrum narcissists or Left wing media giants, will quickly learn that if you take everything from a man then you risk opening your front door to the sight of a shotgun one day.

This will get much, much uglier, yet it will not be entirely one sided.

This is where Civil War 2.0 will come into play if Trump is not able to right the ship during his term(s).

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-05-2018 10:01 PM)PharaohRa Wrote:  

Zel, this is not so much a case of wrongthink as it is a case of certain members of the Alt-Right turning on those who are not "Nazi enough". Even worse, Paul Nehlen was the one who did it, and I actually liked the guy so much that I even donated to his campaign to oust Paul "Lyin" Ryan. What scum, and all because they were jealous of him, and it was so opportunistic for the (((usual suspects))) to take advantage of an opportunity when they see one since it is in their nature to encourage it. What we are seeing here are the same issues that plagued George Lincoln Rockwell, William Luther Pierce and yes, even David Duke in the 1950s to 1980s when they tried to take white nationalism mainstream. They would get to a point where they would mainstream their cause only to be sabotaged by the low IQ miscreants who only want to LARP egged on by the Feds and (((European Style Socialists))).

No - the issue is not that Nehlen or anyone else doxxed Ricky Vaughn. The issue is something else - A MAJOR NEWSPAPER SUPPORTED BY TRILLIONAIRE MONEY DECIDED TO USE THE INFORMATION, TO DOXX AND SHAME HIM. THEY DRAGGED OUT HIS FAMILY AND THE CAREER OF HIS FATHER, THEY CALLED HIS MOTHER AND HIS FATHER. THEY EVEN NAMED THE STREET HE LIVES ON. They stopped short at writing where he lived exactly and what his phone number is.

This is the big issue and it is gargantuan. Of course you will have enemies always who will gladly doxx you. The difference between a Gab-post that disappears quickly and THE FUCKING HUFFINGTONPOST OR THE NEW YORK TIMES DOING IT IS GARGANTUAN!

Next time they may announce it on CNN - wrong thinker identity unmasked, here his face, never hire him, here the faces of his parents, siblings and children! Here some of his best friends!

Note that Ricky Vaughn has never done anything illegal! His most offensive thing were some memes against Jews. He even disavowed white supremacy or Hitler's Aryan cult.

I cannot stress how big this development is.

[Bluey]

It certainly seems to be rushing to the point where if you have a badthink opinion you may as well start the killing, because the punishment is effectively the same. Your life is over.

Where do they think this is going to go?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Huffpo even called his employer, but he was already fired before.

There is a Youtube channel out there named Diversity and Comics - and he is a war-vet who has a Muslim, a Jewish, and a Hispanic child (3 different mothers) during his career in the military. The divorce rate in the military is crazy high.

Antifa and some of the 4Chan tried to have him fired multiple times, but he works at some military contracting company and those don't give much about what the lefties want, because otherwise they might have to shut down anyway. No NYT protest in front of their doors is going to motivate them to shut down the production of bombs and military equipment.

Still - currently the media has not started to publish the pictures of his children and the topics of that channel are benign - just criticizing shitty SJW Marvel comics to get good comics back. But with things progressing the way they do - it's not impossible that the media will one day attack even such guys like that.

Ricky Vaughn may be unemployable at least for some time until it all blows over or he might try to step all out in the open and make a career out of it. But even then - the shitheads are shaming his entire family, future wife and future children with some Neo-Nazi association!

The consequences for wrong-think are getting worse and worse.

[Leonard D Neubache]

The other issue is that when a Left wing media outlet goes to the trouble of giving out that kind of information then there is a certain implication that goes out to the activist arm of that movement.

Very "do with this information what you will, nudge nudge, wink wink" if you ask me.

If it were me and some mob of antifa harmed me or my family because Huffpo doxxed me then my first point of call wouldn't be the antifas, it would be Huffpo. But being that they're a bunch of feckless cunts (literally) they probably have the mistaken sense that they can play God from afar and place themselves high above any consequences.

When things get real is when unaffiliated wrongthinkers take revenge on behalf of men they've never met. At that point we have a ball game on our hands.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I knew that Huffington Post was disgusting, but not Paul Nehlen. That guy has really gone off the deep end. Sad!

[Aurini]

I just picked up Cantwell's latest book.

[fokker]

They forgot to print that the foreword was written by Paul Nehlen!

[Thersites]

I have to say, the NAZI larpers may have further isolated themselves with this doxxing. Their larping was off putting to many, but now they are willing to dox any one that disagree with them is going to reap misfortune for them. You got to give Vox Day some credit, he did warn about this stupidity.

[godfather dust]

Doxing someone in a way that hurts their ability to live life shows you do not care about free speech...

These folks can fuck off to an island somewhere with the "white ethno state" I'll stick to my Bible and Bill of Rights, un-American cunts.

[Thomas Jackson]

Pathetic. A group that already relatively small in numbers can't spend their time attacking each other. Was their logic really that he was not racial focused enough and only agreed with them 90% of the time?

His content in the lead up to the election really was exceptional and probably red pilled thousands of normal conservatives.

[SamuelBRoberts]

(04-06-2018 03:49 PM)Thomas Jackson Wrote:  

Pathetic. A group that already relatively small in numbers can't spend their time attacking each other. Was their logic really that he was not racial focused enough and only agreed with them 90% of the time?

His content in the lead up to the election really was exceptional and probably red pilled thousands of normal conservatives.

Their logic is that they're broken, insane losers. They don't make sensible strategic decisions because they're broken, insane losers.

[Hang the bankers]

Makes me wonder whether paul nehlen was a fed plant from the beginning.

[Atlanta Man]

Doxxing is not cool when people are actively protecting their real identity. I had to have only one bad Facebook issue and except for LinkedIn I have Anonymouszised/ Fake named my entire online life and a good portion of my real life-it is just necessary in this day and age.

Too much shit out there to have fun as Caleb with my wonderful white wife and children, I have to pretend to be a race mixing negro from Atlanta just to protect my beautiful white wife and children-it ain't for a blue collar white man like me out there.Did I mention I am white? Just making sure....Hillary 2020!

[SamuelBRoberts]

I'm shocked to find out that your first name isn't actually Atlanta.

[ProGambler]

I used to like Nehlen for his bravery but now it's obvious he's a hypocrite, a liar and a scumbag. I'm definitely in the online propaganda wing of the alt-right. Street protest is idiotic right now. Make media and reference science & history.

[demolition]

Pretty clear that the Nazi LARPers are, as Jordan Peterson says, just the mirror image of the Left.
I'll never understand what draws them specifically to that identity. You'd think, for anyone wanting to preserve a specifically European cultural heritage, that the guys who got millions on millions of our collective societies' best leaders, warriors, and scholars killed would not be looked upon with any kindness at all.

Fucking Paul Nehlen had just one job: Don't be as worthless as Paul Ryan, Globalist shill and supreme sack of shit. And he couldn't even pull that off.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-07-2018 02:23 AM)demolition Wrote:  

Pretty clear that the Nazi LARPers are, as Jordan Peterson says, just the mirror image of the Left.
I'll never understand what draws them specifically to that identity. You'd think, for anyone wanting to preserve a specifically European cultural heritage, that the guys who got millions on millions of our collective societies' best leaders, warriors, and scholars killed would not be looked upon with any kindness at all.

Fucking Paul Nehlen had just one job: Don't be as worthless as Paul Ryan, Globalist shill and supreme sack of shit. And he couldn't even pull that off.

There is simply no positive White-advocacy group out there - even such ideologies are attacked. Simply saying that you want your country to remain Western-European and white while retaining your own culture and heritage - that is instantly racist. You can even say that you love all other cultures and races, but just want your own to be kept the same way. That is also instantly Nazi. Essentially you are simply saying what 90% of Japanese are thinking, but Western Euro-societies are not allowed to do so. The West simply moved from some sane cultural perception that was common sense up until the 1960s straight to blank-slate theory and open borders to everyone. Even now most people won't wake up until it is too late.

So I guess if they are already being called racist, then they might go full Nazi. Some obviously are drawn towards the symbolism, which has a certain aesthetic that quite a few people like:



It never appealed to me personally since I know what stands behind the ideology - it's more a genocidal Aryan cult that is illogical and anti-Christian at it's core - never mind that it's even occult, atheist and psychopathic. And that is why I could never have any romanticism with regard to communism either - that cult is even more retarded and slightly more genocidal.

But I understand that some folk are drawn to it thinking that you have to fight fire with fire. And when they see Ricky Vaughn or even Roosh who voice sympathy for some of their ideas, then they attack both for either not being radical enough or not being Aryan enough.

On the other hand - who knows really how many of them are real. There are some estimates based on previous Nazi cells that 50% of real-life Nazis in the US and Canada are undercover cops and FBI agents. Sometimes up to 100% of their leadership are agents and they only find out after they do the final bust. Many did not even know themselves who was who.

They should really spare those funds and go after Islamists. Nazism WILL NEVER EVER FIND BROAD ACCEPTANCE among Whites again. Even in the past when they had zero experience with it their support was never more than 30% - and those were inexperienced people who were beaten down and did not have an exact idea what the Nazis were about.

[david.garrett84]

Nehlen should just fuck off. This was the most gamma behavior you could ever conjure up.

On the positive side, kudos to Matt Forney for telling Gab where to shove it in lambasting their reaction to the dox. I hope when this blows over Ricky can reach out to him and they can do a side project together.

Forney not only has intellect but also character and integrity.

[Matt Forney]

Ricky's friends have set up a fundraiser for him on FreeStartr:

https://freestartr.com/project/ricky-vau...port-fund/

Please consider donating if you can. I haven't spoken to Ricky privately in a while, but he's a great guy and he needs our help.

Much of what I had to say about this incident is in this post:

https://mattforney.com/abandon-gab/

The alt-right isn't a dumpster fire. It's a Chernobyl-sized meltdown, visible from orbit, raining toxic ashes all across the world. Stay away from it for your own safety.

[redbeard]

If you read the Huffington Post article, you'll learn that Cernovich's ex-director was involved in confirming Ricky's identity:

Quote:

“That’s him,” Feldman said.

“Who?”

“Ricky.”

Now it's time for Ricky to go full gorilla.

[Higgs Bosun]

Trying to tear down Gab is supremely stupid and counterproductive. The reason Ricky was doxed by Nehlen is entirely due to Nehlen knowing Ricky's identity. If Gab did not exist, Nehlen could still easily have doxed him via one of a million different ways, not least of which is contacting Huffpozz direct.

Getting rid of Gab will not prevent doxing, but it will remove the only social media weapon not in leftist control. Too bad some retards on the platform are getting into personal feuds, but that is no reason to unilaterally disarm. Personal feuds are as old as the internet itself and have been occurring on message boards a decade before the advent of social media, let alone Gab itself. Twitter faggot Dorsey just came out today with a call to basically genocide right wingers, and you guys want to help this piece of shit maintain his monopoly and power? I have no problem with Andrew Torba, as far as I'm concerned he's a goddamn hero for gathering the financial, technical, and organization prowess necessary to create a platform like Gab and becomig a pariah in "polite society" in the process.

Forney might call for taking down Gab, but is he going to create an alternative platform once the destruction has taken place? Sounds to me like the dude has gotten mixed up in the personal feuds himself, and is making suggestions borne not out of solid strategy but from a fit of pique.

[rotekz]

It's been pretty obvious thanks to his terrible acting that Cantwell is an informant and provocateur. Makes you wonder if Nehlen is a fed as well.

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[Dragan]

All this drama on the alt-right is getting old. Whatever power the alt-right ever actually had is quickly disintegrating.

De-platforming hasn't helped either.