[Aquarius]

Keep up the good work man!

Based on my experience, I think direct day game, or "indirect clown day game" like what you attempted below, are probably the hardest to make it work. They work for night game, but I think girls don't really expect, or in a lot of cases don't even want, to be approached during the day, so we may have to open subtly and also very smooth in the actual conversation too.

I have a similar problem with sometimes my game being much worse than usual. The last approach I did, which was just a 5 hours ago, was comically bad, probably on par with my first 5 approaches, which ended in a cockblock!

[Bizet]

Thanks, I appreciate it. I'm​ really enjoying following your journal btw.

[Winston Wolfe]

I think the two boyfriend rejections you got are a sign that you are doing something right.

If a girl drops the boyfriend line, especially if she does it out of the blue, it means that she's picked up on your intentions. Why else would she throw that information out there?

You went indirect, yet they still picked up on your intentions, which I think is a good thing in most cases. Progress!

Having said that, the actual boyfriend line can have two meanings:

1) She actually has a boyfriend and is politely rejecting you
2) Shit test. In this case, it doesn't matter if she actually has a boyfriend or not. She's testing you.

From what you described, I think especially the second one (approach #23) was definitely a shit test. You picked up on this yourself because the way she said it was off.

It's easier said that done and I struggle with this myself too, but the best way to move forward is to completely disregard this comment. Pretend she never mentioned it and continue the conversation.

Or perhaps acknowledge that she said it, and then continue rambling as if she didn't. "Ah, alright. So about that camera, blablabla".

If she brings it up again when you go for the number close, she probably actually has a boyfriend.

If she gives you the number anyway, game on. If the circumstances are right, women will cheat, although it's up to you and your morals if you want to be a part of that or not.

In any case, I like to always push it as far as I can, despite whatever she says. She might break up next week or next month and she might then remember that funny guy who approached her with the bird poo line, which happens to be you.

I've gotten bangs up to two years after the initial approach. This particular girl also had a boyfriend and she wasn't even living in my city. Well, two years later she was single, in my city again and happened to remember me. Game on.

I'm not saying this is common; it's not. But there is a chance. A chance is better than no chance.

Don't think of this day as a failure, man! Remember that putting in the work is what matters and the results will follow. In my opinion you're already killing it by the mere fact that you're out there doing this.

[Bizet]

Thanks for the feedback mate! I probably should've asked that Malaysian for her number anyway. She did seem interested in me. Worst thing that would've happened is if she said "no." Lesson learnt!

Approach #24

Direct approach. Late this morning, I spotted an attractive brunette walking past me. I opened her by telling her she was cute. I noticed she was very nicely dressed: smart casual. She looked like she had just popped out of the office to grab a coffee. So I told her that.

"No, I'm actually on my way to meet a friend for lunch." She said.

I could tell she was a bit stunned by my approach, and she mentioned that this has never happened to her before. I found out she was a 20 year old student, who had just gotten ​back from traveling overseas. She spoke with an Australian accent, but she looked like she had a middle eastern background.

I ended up getting her number. I'll text her in a few hour's time.

[Bizet]

^ I've been texting that previous girl over the past day or two. Hopefully I can set up a date with her. I'm getting sick of all these flakes.

Approach #25

Indirect. I opened an Asian chick at my local cafe today. We were both waiting on our coffees to be made. I noticed she was holding a loyalty rewards card for this cafe. I asked her how the card works, then bridged into a conversation from there.

Then her coffee order was ready. She picked it up, wished me a good day and left.

[ksbms]

@Bizet

“Every girl I’ve number closed so far - except for that weird half-German – has flaked. My legs are killing me and I’m burning up in this heat. I have nothing to show for all my hard work. The last 5 or so approaches I feel like I’ve gotten worse, not better... Fuck this, I’m going home.”

Um, they say if you play with fire... You decided to open Pandora's box. Text flakes? That's just a starter on the kids menu. Dates with make outs, hand holding and a "general great time", followed up by an enthusiastic girl's text before she goes to bed only to never see you again will be first course on the set menu in the big leagues. I don't even want to mention the unexpected a la carte tastes & flavours when it comes to idates and gunning for sdls/sddls during which the tiniest error results in a soup on the floor. And so on. This thing is more a look into your own psyche than a girl's warm and wet vagina.

You actually just started. You are complaining you can't bench 140kg after a month of training. In most domains getting just good at what you do takes years. A decent piano player will need some 10 years of consistent and deliberate practice to play Beethoven's Moonlight sonata. You probably don't know what you're doing. You're aggressive enough so the girls give you their or fake numbers to you, not out of their volition but to get rid of you. I was exactly in the same spot and couldn't understand it at that time, it didn't make sense. See, girls automatic, survival schema is too tend & befriend. They prefer to avoid confrontation whenever possible.

Reading through a few books, spitting a few generic lines, doing 25 approaches won't get laid any regular guy with younger, hotter, tighter girls. There has to be a genuine value you can offer to a girl. So far they perceive (perceiving isn't seeing though) none or it is lower than of guys they sleep with. Master emotional control and you'll do well. Any lays at that stage (with YHT) will be a bonus.

[Skank_Hunt]

90% of the stuff that goes into the situation of his approaches are outside of Bizet's control. While I agree that text flakes are just the "starter", and that paragraph, it's all too easy to jump to conclusions that results of lack thereof are down to "lack of value". Bizet has enough value for Tinder sluts who are in the west surprisingly picky. Their situation (the 90% beyond his control) is completely different, however. To say that Bizet is offering "no value" or is even being perceived as having "no value" is jumping the gun to say the least. For a lot of girls it would take Justin Bieber to get them to cheat on their (even lame) boyfriends from a day time cold approach. So 5% roughly from his "value" and 5% on his "skills", both of which ~10% OP can control. I guess the game "community" focuses so much on "building value" and "delivering value" (part of the "attraction" aspect of "game" I guess) because the rest of it is all up in the air. What matters is the truth and an honest assessment of OP's "value" and "perceived value" as well as his other game "skills" e.g. rapport, comfort, logistics, escalation etc. which we can't really judge all too accurately from afar. And unfortunately, for a day time approach to succeed fully, a lot of stars have to align as in the 90% beyond the guy's control have to be in his favor, then he has to have at least enough perceived value then he has to depending on the girl give enough of whatever she needs (including, sometimes, just a bit of idle time e.g. for comfort) for her to be on your bed with her legs open.

Winston's example of the 2 year after approach bang is just once instance where the "other 90%" happened to swing in his favor from an originally rigid position against him. All the "value" in the world within reason (i.e. not Justin Bieber) couldn't make her available at that time, irrespective of his actual value, and delivered perceived value (attraction "game") etc.

The girl who thought OP might drug her would likely have been more relaxed if her best friend had introduced OP as her cousin and sung his praises etc. Yes that is social circle, entirely different but that's the point, the difference there was an already neurotic/mental girl mixed with an unfamiliar man, unlikely to do with his value her freakout, more likely her unfamiliarity. Some girls more adventurous find that exciting, more of them find it ultimately uncomfortable, scary, weird. It's almost as much managing the girl's emotions as well as your own, in terms of comfort. It's difficult to do that with one meeting unless the girl is particularly outgoing and trusting.

[Bizet]

^ Thanks for the feedback guys. I enjoy your contrasting views, and I took a bit away from both of your posts.

(03-04-2018 01:39 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:  

Bizet has enough value for Tinder sluts who are in the west surprisingly picky.

Funnily enough, I deleted my tinder account over the weekend. I've decided to go 'all in' with my daygame. I'll be more motivated to approach by removing all my other options for meeting women.

Approach #26

I was on my lunch break at work (I work on Sundays). I was walking down the street when I spotted a cute little redhead standing by herself, smoking a cigarette. I opened her by asking if I could buy a cigarette off her. I quit smoking two years ago, but I'll occasionally still enjoy the odd social cigarette here and there. She gave me a smoke and I lit it up...

"Thanks for that, I usually don't smoke but I'm having a busy day at work dealing with crazy people (bait drop) and I could really use one today."

She took the bait and we started chatting. She told me that she was waiting for an uber to pick her up and it was due in two minutes. I also found out that she was a friendly 23 year old Kiwi, who works as a bartender.

Then her uber pulled up. She told me it was nice to meet me; then she was gone.

Like with the previous approach, there just wasn't enough time for me to game her properly.

Approach #27

I was on my way home from work. I arrived at my tramstop, and there was a girl waiting for a tram there too. She was facing the opposite way to me, so I took a good look at her fantastic arse (she was wearing tight yoga pants), then I walked past her so I could checkout her face. She was stunning: long blonde hair, green eyes, big full lips and a very pretty face. She noticed me looking at her, so I had to go up to her and talk then and there so it wouldn't be weird.

I used my usual tramstop line to open her. She didn't seem very interested in chatting, and her body language was quite bad: crossed arms and legs. I rambled anyway and eventually got her to ask a question about me. I found out she was 19 years old and Italian. However, I eventually bailed because I got the vibe she wasn't into me.

She was probably the most attractive girl I've opened since starting my challenge.

[Feyoder]

(02-14-2018 07:54 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

^^OP Regarding the above chart... yeah he's kinda Right! Indirect Day makes it more difficult to bring enough sexual tension at the table in order to escalate

But in order to succeed Direct, your Rambling has to be Bang On in order to flow in your convo. Keep doing what you're doing, but over time look toward going more Direct as your Rambling gets tighter

PS: If you haven't gotten laid in a while... try giving Hugs after the interaction you'll have. Ocer time it'll set the frame in your mind of being the happy sexual guy, and women will feed off this energy when you'll be going Direct

Anyway keep working OP

I think location matters. In a place like poland, I can see direct being mainly a disaster--especially in a mall.

In Melbourne, Bizet's location, maybe a direct approach is needed. I think you need something mega to penetrate the constant bubble of dopamine / opiates her brain is frying in from tinder et al. Only thing with that is then maintaining congruency and keeping body language chilled out (keep the convo spicy but the body language calm so the cat doesn't freak out).

Loving the journal. Keep us updated.

[Bizet]

(03-05-2018 03:34 PM)Feyoder Wrote:  

I think location matters. In a place like poland, I can see direct being mainly a disaster--especially in a mall.

In Melbourne, Bizet's location, maybe a direct approach is needed. I think you need something mega to penetrate the constant bubble of dopamine / opiates her brain is frying in from tinder et al. Only thing with that is then maintaining congruency and keeping body language chilled out (keep the convo spicy but the body language calm so the cat doesn't freak out).

Loving the journal. Keep us updated.

Funnily enough, I had the same thought today. I still get affected by AA when I try to go direct though.

Oh, and thanks bud!

Approach #28

I had a work meeting today at 3pm, but I figured I'd get into the city a few hours earlier and knockout as many approaches as I could.

My first approach of the day was, predictably, at my usual tram stop. She was a Chinese girl with headphones plugged into her ears and she was glued to her smartphone screen...

"Excuse me." I said.

She didn't hear me.

"Excuse me." I repeated, a little louder.

Still no response.

"EXCUSE ME!" I shouted.

That got her attention. I ran my usual tram stop opener and ramble on her and she responded well to it. I ran through GALNUC (after she had asked a question about me), although I skipped the "G" part, as I would've felt a bit autistic asking a Chinese girl if she was part German, haha. When I got up to the "L" part, she mentioned that she lived with her boyfriend.

Approach #29

Next I approached a blonde English girl in the park. She was very cute and friendly, but like with the previous approach, I found out that she lived with her boyfriend.

Approach #30

I was still in the same park when I noticed a pair of girls. They appeared to be backpackers (they sounded English) and they were taking photos of a floral exhibition in this park. Roosh advises against opening two-sets in Daybang. However, one of these girls - a curvy brunette in a red floral dress - was just so sexy that to give it a shot. I went indirect (asking the hot one about her camera), then made a comment about how her red floral dress matches the flowers she was taking photos of.

"If you were to lie down in that bed of flowers, you'd be totally camouflaged." I joked.

She laughed at this and told me she "loves flowers." I told her she was in the right place then. I tried to banter with her a bit more, but I was cockblocked by her plain friend. This would've been a great set if I had a wingman with me.

God fucking damn she was sexy though; on par with that Italian girl from the last entry.

Approach #31

OK, so this set lasted the better part of two hours. I'm not going to bore you with every little detail, just the essential parts...

I approached a blonde in that same park. I went indirect on her; although I really wish that I went direct instead. She was a Norwegian in her mid 20's, and today was her last day in Melbourne - well sort of. She was going away on a roadtrip tomorrow morning. She'd be back again on Friday, but I'm working that night. Then she leaves on Saturday morning.

Anyway... We were getting along really well and I told her that I would like to take her out for a drink that night. She told me that she couldn't because she had a job interview that night (back in Norway, via Skype) and an early wake up time the next morning. I still had two hours to kill before my work meeting, so I asked if she would like to grab a drink with me there and then (instant date). She told me she'd like that, so that's exactly what we did.

I have never been on a daygame instant date before, so this was new territory for me. I felt like Captain James Cook, sailing in uncharted waters. I'm not sure what I expected to happen, I had a compulsory meeting to attend to in two hour's time. But I decided just to go along with it and 'let the chips fall where they may'.

We went to this little bar by the river. I brought us a round of beers, and we sat down together. Our conversation was flowing quite well. I decided that I was just going to pretend that this was a regular Tinder/OKCupid date and act accordingly.

"I want to take a photo of us together!" She said, and pulled out her phone.

I put my arm around her lower back and she rested her head on my chest as we took a series of selfies together. I also took a few photos for this journal, but it turns out that you can't post pictures of your dates faces.

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So this is the only one I can use (that's her arm on the left)...



We stayed at that bar and chatted for a long time. I was flirting with her and lightly touching her - which she didn't seem to either like or dislike. We were talking about the colors of our eyes, while staring deep into each other's eyes. As I said, I was treating this like a Tinder date, so I decided to go for the kiss...

And I was shut down.

She turned her head and gave me the cheek.

"Nice try" she said, laughing it off.

She was cool about it, but that didn't change the fact that I felt a bit awkward after that. If she were a girl I met in a bar I would've brushed it off as no big deal and tried again later. But this situation was different, I didn't try to escalate on her again after that. I couldn't help but to remember something that ksbms wrote on my journal the other day...

Quote:

I don't even want to mention the unexpected a la carte tastes & flavours when it comes to idates and gunning for sdls/sddls during which the tiniest error results in a soup on the floor.

I felt like there was definitely soup on the floor at this point.

Eventually we left the bar. I had to run along to my meeting (which was good, as the conversation was drying up and things were starting to get uncomfortable after that kiss attempt). So I walked to her to the art gallery (which is something she said she wanted to see before leaving), wished her a good day and left.

Homework for tonight...

Re-read the instant date section of Daybang.

[ksbms]

(03-06-2018 01:56 AM)Bizet Wrote:  

Approach #31

OK, so this set lasted the better part of two hours. I'm not going to bore you with every little detail, just the essential parts...

I approached a blonde in that same park. I went indirect on her; although I really wish that I went direct instead. She was a Norwegian in her mid 20's, and today was her last day in Melbourne - well sort of. She was going away on a roadtrip tomorrow morning. She'd be back again on Friday, but I'm working that night. Then she leaves on Saturday morning.

Don't try to fool a girl that you want to be her friend. Be a man. You're not trying to be her friend. It will backfire. You figured out her logistics, that's good. That's essential. Always ask where they stay. The moment you know the clock is ticking, you'll have to start thinking. It's tough. You'll have to be present in a set, steer it in the real time and make future planning. That's tricky. This will improve with experience. You'll have around 30 minutes to figure if you should be going all in for an SDL and push things to absolute limits or if you can ground the set hoping to either see her soon or if you'll be playing the long game. It seems in this case, you've decided to go for SDL. This requires absolute conviction, decisiveness, excellent timing, lots of experience and (a lot of) luck. But the crucial ingredient is to activate an an excitement mode and adventure experience. This is a big ask, to have girl having sex with you 2-4 hours after meeting you, with a stranger. You need to offer her something in return - adventure is that. Most women romance book involve a mysterious stranger who overtakes a woman's emotions and she can't help herself but surrender to him. You need to TAP into this archetype. This is a big challenge. Most men have no idea what it means, we've been placated and indoctrinated to be nice, hard-working, pleasant and non-threatening men, we have no idea how to become that stranger.

(03-06-2018 01:56 AM)Bizet Wrote:  

Anyway... We were getting along really well and I told her that I would like to take her out for a drink that night. She told me that she couldn't because she had a job interview that night (back in Norway, via Skype) and an early wake up time the next morning. I still had two hours to kill before my work meeting, so I asked if she would like to grab a drink with me there and then (instant date). She told me she'd like that, so that's exactly what we did.

You were getting along because you provided free entertainment, which girl wouldn't like it? A girl who'd really consider sex, wouldn't mind skipping on a bit of sleep. If you're gunning for SDL you just lead, lead, lead. Don't ask a question whether she'd like to go here and there.

(03-06-2018 01:56 AM)Bizet Wrote:  

I have never been on a daygame instant date before, so this was new territory for me. I felt like Captain James Cook, sailing in uncharted waters. I'm not sure what I expected to happen, I had a compulsory meeting to attend to in two hour's time. But I decided just to go along with it and 'let the chips fall where they may'.

You don't expect anything, you make things happen. Don't expect any signals from a girl on an idate, they aren't used to these situations and don't know how to play that game. An SDL in two hours is possible but that's a very tight frame and would require an advanced game (say, someone with 25+ lays from daygame and 5+ sdls/sddls).

(03-06-2018 01:56 AM)Bizet Wrote:  

We went to this little bar by the river. I brought us a round of beers, and we sat down together. Our conversation was flowing quite well. I decided that I was just going to pretend that this was a regular Tinder/OKCupid date and act accordingly.

Sitting arrangement is crucial. What is being drank and how is important too. Idate with an sdl in mind is nothing like a normal date. Everything happens much faster and girls are usually just passive letting you escalate them (if all goes well).

(03-06-2018 01:56 AM)Bizet Wrote:  

"I want to take a photo of us together!" She said, and pulled out her phone.

I put my arm around her lower back and she rested her head on my chest as we took a series of selfies together. I also took a few photos for this journal, but it turns out that you can't post pictures of your dates faces.

This was possibly a girl's excuse to get physical (maybe unconsciously, maybe because she was ovulating). You were doing something right, this was the moment to aggressively begin escalating physically, touching her hair, neck, hands, and begin kissing. Quite possibly she was "in the moment". A rare window of opportunity opened which requires immediate decision. Moving to another venue near your place or going straight to yours (after heating her up), or extracting for a disabled toilet fuck. It's almost always now or never. One wrong move, the set is (almost certainly) burned.

(03-06-2018 01:56 AM)Bizet Wrote:  

We stayed at that bar and chatted for a long time. I was flirting with her and lightly touching her - which she didn't seem to either like or dislike. We were talking about the colors of our eyes, while staring deep into each other's eyes. As I said, I was treating this like a Tinder date, so I decided to go for the kiss...

Probably too nice a chat. SLDs are fast and dirty, sexual not about eye colours. She cooled down and realised you can't deliver an adventure she might have opened herself to. You decided to go for the kiss way too late. on an SDL date, you can go for a kiss 15-30 minutes in. But all idate is a relentless escalation, slower or faster, depending on the girl and time you have, but it's only a road one way.

If a girl refuses, no big deal. Just recover for a few minutes, go for it again. You can run a recovery loop a few times before you'll call it out.

You still could've taken her number (maybe you have) and play the long game, just in case you'll be in Europe.

Read Krauser on SDLs.

[Bizet]

Quote:

Don't try to fool a girl that you want to be her friend. Be a man. You're not trying to be her friend. It will backfire.

I'm starting to realize that. I'm going to place more on an emphasis on direct approaches for now on.

Quote:

An SDL in two hours is possible but that's a very tight frame and would require an advanced game (say, someone with 25+ lays from daygame and 5+ sdls/sddls).

Yep. I definitely felt like I was in over my head. Like an amature club boxer who somehow found himself in the ring with Mike Tyson in his prime.

Quote:

This was possibly a girl's excuse to get physical (maybe unconsciously, maybe because she was ovulating). You were doing something right, this was the moment to aggressively begin escalating physically, touching her hair, neck, hands, and begin kissing. Quite possibly she was "in the moment". A rare window of opportunity opened which requires immediate decision. Moving to another venue near your place or going straight to yours (after heating her up), or extracting for a disabled toilet fuck. It's almost always now or never. One wrong move, the set is (almost certainly) burned.

....

Probably too nice a chat. SLDs are fast and dirty, sexual not about eye colours. She cooled down and realised you can't deliver an adventure she might have opened herself to. You decided to go for the kiss way too late. on an SDL date, you can go for a kiss 15-30 minutes in. But all idate is a relentless escalation, slower or faster, depending on the girl and time you have, but it's only a road one way.

Very insightful, thanks!

Quote:

Read Krauser on SDLs.

Will do.

[Bizet]

Holly shit. Today started out awful and ended in the best possible way.

Approach #32

I was in a pretty bad mood when I got into the city. I got really sunburnt the day before (note to self: always bring sunscreen on warm days), I had gotten maybe 4 hours sleep the night before, and to top it all off, I got a fine for traveling on a tram without a valid ticket today (fuck Melbourne).

I was walking through the city when I spotted a tall, skinny blonde. She was slowly strolling through the streets. I went direct on her.

"Excuse me."

"Yes?"

"I just noticed you walking past and I thought you were really cute."

She started chuckling to herself, as if she had heard this line before. I continued with the set and got her number. However, like with the Norwegian girl yesterday, the logistics aren't great. She was meeting a friend tonight, then leaving for a road trip tomorrow (Great Ocean Road: it's a popular spot with tourists), she was coming back late Friday night, then leaving on Saturday.

I got her number anyway, just incase she changes her plans or finds herself with a few free hours before she leaves. I'll message her on WhatsApp after I finish this post, but I don't have high hopes for this one.

Approach #33

So I had another instant date today...

I approached a girl who was standing by the river smoking a cigarette. She was a freckled redhead; she looked like she had a pretty good body, but I couldn't really see her face because she was wearing large sunglasses. I went direct again.

We started chatting; when she took off her sunglasses I noticed she was a bit older than I thought (early 30's) and her face was a quite plain. She was still attractive enough for me to want to have sex with though, so I continued with the set. She had just arrived in Melbourne from the States (Texas, I think it was) that morning.

"What are you up to today?" I asked her.

"Nothing, just exploring. You?"

"Yeah, pretty much the same."

"Cool. Do you want to grab a drink?" She asked me.

We went to the same riverside bar I took yesterday's date to.

"Oh, cool. I was just here an hour ago." She said.

"You've been drinking today?" I asked.

"Yeah, I'm still on US time dude." She explained.

We got a round of beers at that bar. Remembering the advice ksbms gave me, I was being very flirty and I wanted to escalate the touching quickly. The first time touched her lower back she jumped a bit out of surprise.

OK, too quick. I thought to myself.

She told me that she was staying in a hotel room across the road from this bar. In my head I was thinking that the SDL might be a real chance. Then she mentioned that she was staying with a friend of her's: a male friend.

It turns out this guy and her were good friends back home in America. He had been living here in Melbourne for a while, and he paid to fly her over here and he put her up in a hotel room (a nice room) for 10 days while she visits. This seemed really weird to me, my gut was telling me that this guy and this girl were more than just "friends".

Anyway, after we had finished our drinks; we bounced to another bar along the river and got another round of beers. Remembering yesterday; I pulled out my phone.

"I want to get a photo of us together." I told her.

I put my arm around her, and like yesterdays girl, she rested her head on my chest. This was a good sign.

EDIT: I originally posted pic of her legs here, but I decided to remove it for now.

I was ramping up the touching with her and I was shamelessly flirting, making sure it was crystal clear that I was attracted to her. At one point she was sitting down on a barstool and I was standing right infront of her, my legs were touching her knees.

"It's such a beautiful day. I've got a beer and a pretty girl. That's almost everything I need." I announced.

"Oh? And what's the other thing you need?" She asked.

"This." I told her, and went in for the kiss...

This time I was not rejected.

We made out for a solid 20 seconds. Two days ago I had never been on an instant date before, let alone ever had a daygame makeout. Don't get me wrong, this girl was only a generous 6, but this was my first ever daygame makeout and it was a big deal to me. The boundaries of what I thought to be possible have been completely shattered.

We continued talking for another 10 minutes, then left the bar and went for a walk, then we made out again. She mentioned that she had to get back to the hotel room soon because her male friend was about to finish work and she was going to meet him there.

Wait, you guys are sharing a hotel room? Yeah there's definitely something happening there. I thought to myself.

I offered to walk her back to her hotel, but she told me I couldn't because she didn't want this guy seeing me with her. So we exchanged numbers, and made out for the third and final time. This time we got very heated; she was pressing her body hard against mine and kissing me very passionately. I ran my hands down and grabbed her arse, and I made sure she could feel my hard cock rubbing against her. I pushed her into a tree and kissed her neck, she let out a feminine moan. Then she told me we had to stop.

We parted ways shortly after. As I said, I got her number and I made plans to meet up with her on Saturday night. However, I'm a little worried I took her number down wrong (or she gave me a wrong number), because I can't find her on WhatsApp (which she said she's on).

UPDATE: Never mind, I forgot to add the US area code to her number, found her on WhatsApp.

[ksbms]

Good job! A Yes girl will know if she wants to have sex within a minute of the interaction (this may not by fully leixcally articulated in her mind) but the idea of a number of dates and the whole process is a convenient fiction that was created to keep men working hard and become bread winners. A horny woman will have sex with a man she likes with no time delay.

Now you need to reblow the bubble without her being physically present. Overheating a girl too much if no sex in sight may be risky. With good text game shouldn't be a problem. Play a fuckboy hand well - make her know you won't interfere with her daily life with the other man, won't publicly show you're intimate so the other man wouldn't find out and the whole illicit affair is a romantic secret between two strangers. Make her romantic fiction she read about in books come true.

For example, instead of messaging for her to meet you at night tell her you hope she can sneak out. Tell her you're taking her to a secret place. Mention you've never had anything like this. Basically, vocabulary reach in that type of language found in romance novels.

[Feyoder]

Hmm, suspect US chick has a sponsor in Melbourne (if she's 30 he's like 60s). Nice going though Bizet. Cuck that sponsor.

[Bizet]

+1.

I met up with that girl yesterday; I had a few hours to kill before work (night shift, starting work at 5pm), and we had a few drinks.

Then she came over to my place today. And, about 48 hours after meeting her, we had sex. She's just left my apartment now.

As I mentioned before, this chick was no supermodel: average face and a decent body. I'm happy I got a bang, but I want to focus on gaming higher quality girls for now on.

As Krauser says: you should only approach the girls you feel deep and genuine attraction for. Not the girls you look at and just think "yeah, she's not bad. I guess I wouldn't mind having her in my bed."

[Winston Wolfe]

Congratulations on the first day game bang man!

[Aquarius]

(03-08-2018 10:11 PM)Bizet Wrote:  

+1.

I met up with that girl yesterday; I had a few hours to kill before work (night shift, starting work at 5pm), and we had a few drinks.

Then she came over to my place today. And, about 48 hours after meeting her, we had sex. She's just left my apartment now.

As I mentioned before, this chick was no supermodel: average face and a decent body. I'm happy I got a bang, but I want to focus on gaming higher quality girls for now on.

As Krauser says: you should only approach the girls you feel deep and genuine attraction for. Not the girls you look at and just think "yeah, she's not bad. I guess I wouldn't mind having her in my bed."

Congrats man! All those 30+ approaches paid off. Keep up the good work!

[Bizet]

Approach #34

I approached a girl while on the way home from work today. I was jumping off my tram and a girl got off at the same stop as me. I wanted to go direct on her, but I pussied-out and when indirect instead. She was a classic beauty, with bonde hair that ran midway down her back, long sexy legs and an angelic face. Plus she was surprisingly polite and very feminine. This girl was a high 8 in my books, maybe even a 9. She was a business student from Kansas, America (there's no way a girl like this was going to be from Melbourne). We chatted for two or three minutes; she mentioned that she was on her way to a friend's house for pre-drinks, then heading out for a night on the town.

I walked with her until we arrived at her friend's place...

"Well, it was nice meeting you." She told me.

We hadn't been talking for long, but I had to go for the close...

"So, you're a business student, and I'm trying to start my own business (actually true). Give me your number. I'd like to talk about business with you, over a few margaritas of course." I suggested.

"Sure, I'd like that." She said.

So I got her number, but I don't think I'm going to see her again. It was a very short interaction, and no doubt, she'll get hit on 100 times when she's out tonight.

[Bizet]

Approach #35

I saw a girl with a nice, plump, black ass walking down the street. However, I only saw her from behind. When I opened her I saw she had a bunch of stupid piercings on her face: a big turnoff. I tried chatting with her anyway (for practice). She sounded like she was from London, but she was actually from Poland. She was a bit of a cunt.

Approach #36

Opened an Asian chick, indirectly. There where two other people standing 5 meters away from her. I assumed that I these people were just randoms, but it turns out they were her friends. As soon as they saw me talking to this girl, they jumped in. This made it very awkward. One of them said that he thought I was trying to sell his friend cocaine, haha!

Approach #37

German girl, she was on her way to meet her boyfriend.

Approach #38

Indirect approach (I'm still struggling with AA when I want to go direct). Another German. I really had to plow with this set; I did a lot of rambling and got her to laugh a few times. However, this conversation was all one-way traffic: she didn't ask a single question about me. Eventually I just gave up.

Approach #39

Asian. Her English was so painfuly bad that I bailed almost straight away.

....

So there was no success out on the streets today.

In other news, the girl from Kansas actually replied to my text. We've been messaging back and forth, she was hinting that she wanted to meet up with me tonight, but I had work again. This was very frustrating.

The American girl I banged is now getting super clingy, borderlining on stalking. Another reason why you shouldn't​ bang average-looking girls. Thank God she leaves this week.

[Bizet]

Approach #40

This one just happened 10 minutes ago. I wanted to write about it now while everything is still fresh in my memory.

I was sleep deprived as shit when I arrived in the city today. I worked the previous night; then I went out drinking with a trio of random university​ girls I met on the street. (no bang, there was only one hot one and she had a long-term boyfriend). I don't sleep well when I've been drinking alcohol.

Every fibre in my body was telling me not to bother with approaching today, and to go back home and sleep. So I made a comprise with myself: just do one direct approach, then you can go home.

I thought that was reasonable; plus one more approach would put me back on par with my goal of 10 a week.

I was being a bit of a pussy and I backed out of three arpproaches. Then I spotted a really cute little blonde walking past. She had a bit of a student vibe about her: glasses, backpack, a thick woollen sweater. I opened her directly...

"Hi, I was standing over there and I saw you walking past. I thought you were really cute and I just knew I had to say hi."

She responded really well to that. It was a OK set, not perfect, but good enough. I think being so tired played in my favour, as it gave me a more chilled out vibe. She was 21 and from Switzerland. I asked her out on an instant date, as that worked very well for me last week, but she declined. So I got her number instead.

[Bizet]

Approach #41

Haha, I'm liveblogging a daygame session in real-time! As soon as I finished writing up that previous post (on my phone) I started making my way home. I was walking past the Melbourne Central mall, when I noticed a cute little Latina giving me an IOI. I went direct on her, and she absolutely loved it! Now THIS was a really good set: she was smiling and laughing, she thanked me for approaching her and called me "very brave" (her English was so-so). She was a 26 year old Columbian with long brown hair, dark eyes and a really nice arse (I love yoga pants) - I got her number.

OK, now I'm heading home.

[Bizet]

Approach #42

I approached a tall, slim brunette in a red dress late this morning.

"Excuse me, I just saw you walking past and I thought you were really cute, and I wanted to say hi."

There was a long pause, she didn't react at all.

"Hi. I'm Bizet. What's your name?" I asked her.

"I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO YOU!" She replied, in a heavy Eastern European accent.

"Umm.."

"YOU'RE MAKING ME UNCOMFORTABLE, PLEASE LEAVE!"

"OK, sorry, I just..."

"BYE BYE!" She interrupted.

That was easily the worst response I've gotten so far. The fact that this happened within earshot of a lot of people walking past on the street made it more uncomfortable.

Approach #43

I went indirect on a blonde German in a park. This girl was wearing skintight jeans that really complemented her long legs and her fantastic arse. She was friendly; however, she mentioned early on that she came to Australia to visit her long-term boyfriend who lives over here.

Approach #44

I tried doing another direct approach. This time my target was a short, but sexy brunette who was walking past. This approach was a bit of a mess; I caught myself talking way too fast and my vocal tone was a bit nasally. I was trying to make my vibe agreeable, rather than masculine.

I was still remembering that cunt of a woman I approached earlier and I think this is what threw me off. I need to work on my emotional control and being more present in set.

Not that it mattered too much; this chick was a French tourist who hardly spoke a word of English. You could tell she had no idea what I had just said after I opened her. I bailed after a few minutes.

[ksbms]

(03-13-2018 12:03 AM)Bizet Wrote:  

Approach #42

I approached a tall, slim brunette in a red dress late this morning.

"Excuse me, I just saw you walking past and I thought you were really cute, and I wanted to say hi."

There was a long pause, she didn't react at all.

"Hi. I'm Bizet. What's your name?" I asked her.

"I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO YOU!" She replied, in a heavy Eastern European accent.

"Umm.."

"YOU'RE MAKING ME UNCOMFORTABLE, PLEASE LEAVE!"

"OK, sorry, I just..."

"BYE BYE!" She interrupted.

That was easily the worst response I've gotten so far. The fact that this happened within earshot of a lot of people walking past on the street made it more uncomfortable.

[...]

I was still remembering that cunt of a woman I approached earlier and I think this is what threw me off. I need to work on my emotional control and being more present in set.

Sometimes, though rarely, this happens. Had a similar situation at a bus stop, in the very centre of the city at a busy street. Late twenties or just around 30 years old woman, she looked visibly distressed by my laid back approach, even though I didn't close up the distance, very quickly gathered up her belongings and walked away to another bus stop, I think.

You need to put yourself in shoes of these women - she has no obligation to be nice to you, smile and compliment you. Not acting friendly doesn't make someone a cunt - some time you have a very bad day for x, y, z reasons and the last thing is some stranger talking to you. Or, perhaps, a very traumatic experience that followed talking to stranger. Imagine if someone came up to you asking for the time, and when you looked up the time on your phone you'd get punch in the face and your smartphone stolen. You'd become for a prolonged time very cautious of someone coming up to you and asking innocuous question. I can imagine that once in a blue moon you'll approach a woman who had, unfortunately, a very negative experience with a stranger in a random public space. There's nothing you can do but just calmly walk away, perhaps wishing a girl a good day/evening.

[Bizet]

(03-13-2018 02:47 PM)ksbms Wrote:  

You need to put yourself in shoes of these women - she has no obligation to be nice to you, smile and compliment you. Not acting friendly doesn't make someone a cunt - some time you have a very bad day for x, y, z reasons and the last thing is some stranger talking to you. Or, perhaps, a very traumatic experience that followed talking to stranger. Imagine if someone came up to you asking for the time, and when you looked up the time on your phone you'd get punch in the face and your smartphone stolen. You'd become for a prolonged time very cautious of someone coming up to you and asking innocuous question. I can imagine that once in a blue moon you'll approach a woman who had, unfortunately, a very negative experience with a stranger in a random public space. There's nothing you can do but just calmly walk away, perhaps wishing a girl a good day/evening.

Yeah, you're right. She most likely had stuff going on that I didn't know about.

Another lesson learnt.