[Aquarius]

After reading Statesman's thread on his game log, I decided its time for me to do the same. Well done man, keep up the good work!

A little about myself. I'm college aged but going to grad school (I can tell you more via PM if your interested in learning about my story), Asian, 5'8'', used to be chubby and out of shape but slimmed down by 20 lb and working on my muscles from my current 24 BMI.

How I got into game?

While I had a normal, uneventful childhood back in my hometown in Asia, my teenage years involved a shit ton of hardcore studying in a foreign country, moving to the United States as a teenager for my education. I also had very little social interactions during this period.

This shielded me away from a lot of poz, but stunted my social development. I also spent quite a decent amount of time not studying surfing the internet and from the internet, I managed to redpill myself on all kinds of things starting from politics and some clicks later and years later, at age 17 I discovered Roosh V Forum. Before I moved out of my parents' home at age 19, I wasn't able to apply game much because I was a teenager on a college campus and my parents weren't too keen on me having social interactions with teens my age.

So when I first moved out of my parents' house, the first thing I tried was social circle game. I got introduced to an actually pretty solid social circle consisting of the "cool guys" who were fraternity guys able to pull hotties. But due to my underdeveloped social skills and not very good looking, I wasn't able to survive in that type of social environment and eventually that social circle got gradually shut off from me.

While this was a giant screw up, it was inevitable and looking back, an excellent learning experience. So this woke me up and I have started to daygame.

Results so far

I did my first approach back in October 2017 after watching a few Tom Torero infield videos on YouTube. I did a rear approach, chased her for a couple of steps and then opened until I was one step ahead. It was comically bad because its the first time I've ever done this and I had serious Approach Anxiety so I stuttered something along the lines of

"Excuse me, hey, I saw you walking by and I noticed that your cute"

While she blew me out, I decided to not quit, but to keep doing this no matter what, and made sure to learn from all my mistakes.

As of now, I've done 9 daygame approaches, 2 numbers, 0 dates, 0 bangs.

I've gotten I think 4 or 5 numbers from night game and social circle game, and all lead to nowhere or I didn't find them bangable enough.

Some of my previous experiences daygaming this past 2 weeks can be found here, here, and here.

[Aquarius]

Today, I hauled my ass out of the door and did some approaching.

First I went to a coffee shop that a friend told me is good for pickup. It turned out that it was closing in 5 mins before I showed up due to the Super Bowl, which was 5 hours before it would've closed normally.

However, since I went to the coffee shop to mostly daygame primarily and do work secondarily, I couldn't waste this opportunity so I saw this chick sitting at alone at the bar and approached her. Since it turned out that she's with I think a boyfriend that I didn't notice when I approached, while we had a fairly pleasant but short conversation, she didn't give me her number. She was also hipster and had a bull ring so wasn't that big of a deal to me.

Next I went to the mall. I wanted to try on a few clothes for the size before buying them online, so I needed to go anyways. I found it how utterly difficult was it to approach. Maybe its because of the Super Bowl, but all the girls I saw were either walking fast, too old for me, with her family or boyfriend. The mall wasn't crowded at all.

I'm way too scared to walk into a store like Sephora alone but its only in stores like these (and Victoria Secret) that had a lot of seemingly DTF targets. Also, I have no clue how to game sets of 2 (or more) and front stops for girls walking fast in the opposite direction. So I wrapped up my day, empty handed.

[Skank_Hunt]

Man, don't start trying two sets or girls walking fast clearly with purpose -- you're just starting out so go for the easier sets and when you're getting results with these work your way gradually up. You're not expected to approach "10s" as a beginner with your stats especially and get anywhere. It's normal. That feeling of intense difficulty is often normal, especially when solo. Good on you for trying.

[ksbms]

(02-05-2018 12:24 AM)Aquarius Wrote:  

I'm way too scared to walk into a store like Sephora alone but its only in stores like these (and Victoria Secret) that had a lot of seemingly DTF targets. Also, I have no clue how to game sets of 2 (or more) and front stops for girls walking fast in the opposite direction. So I wrapped up my day, empty handed.

You can look a bit like a bull in a china shop in all female beauty products or all female lingerie products stores. Having said that, rarely it is the case if you can calibrate your behaviour. Sales assistans saw it all - you can be a boyfriend shopping for a girlfriend (hey, it's Valentines day approaching (aka Bullshitting day)), you can be gay, trans, cross, a bored man or... a daygamer. Usually, there is a section for men products anyway (cologne, aftershave, longjohns, whatever). You can flirt with stores assistants, or if asked tell them you're waiting for your girl, or looking for something to buy - if they offer to show you, tell them politely you'll ask them if you need help, otherwise they'll waste your time). You can be as creative as you want.

If you like a particular assistant, just directly hit on her, preferably where it's not overly busy and her colleagues are not too close. Make it "secret" and "exciting" for her. If you see a girl in a store, you need to figure it out so you won't spam it in a shop - there's security and cctv and the least thing they want if someone distracting their customers from buying products. This will take calibration to make it smooth and not-noticeable (I have liked a particular food store shop and got banned once because there was always some talent kicking about so I made myself to obvious, despite all my experience). After going to a variety of shops some 30-50 times, you'll start to get the "flow" of the place, it's dynamics, people behaviours, choke points, best times of day.

As you can see, there's more to daygame just approaching a girl. Pre-approach, venue selection just as important.

Two sets during daytime daygame are a different thing than nighttime daygame (aka gutter game). For the latter look the Night Bastard's multiset approaches - he makes it look super-easy but it's not. It it weren't, you'd see many guys doing it. For the former, it's a tough beast - challenge yourself, but don't expect too much. Your bread & butter are single girls, hone your skills there. Once you get these girls successfully on dates, fuck a few of them, then you may get enough confidence to make some solid two sets, though no harm in pushing yourself here and there.

Right now, you need to see the girls as boxes full of information - calibration which girl to approach will yield better results than just spamming whatever a girl you find attractive. Learn to see the right cues, from obvious eye-contact and her smiling at you to a little bit more of hip sway indicating she might be ovulating. You want to open, ideally, a girl who is interested (in you) and available (to you). This will take some time, quite likely a reference experience of a few hundred sets plus observing, say, 2000+ girls how they carry themselves, dress, and behave in a public space. If work on that consistently and systematically, you should see some results around 3-6 months mark (proviso you look at least average, have already decent body language, read relevant literature, dress well and are willing to push forward no matter responses you get. And most importantly, process feedback, learn from experiences, self-diagnose and improve each session working on particular skill). I recommend to start audio (and video, though audio good enough) recording as soon as possible.

[Hypno]

Just practice talking to everyone, male and female, old and young, above your station and below. It takes practice to be socially congruent and confidence. Make a game of getting to know facts about them other than that they are doing fine and their weekend was OK. This is the Dale Carnegie method of being interested in others.

[Statesman]

(02-05-2018 12:03 AM)Aquarius Wrote:  

After reading Statesman's thread on his game log, I decided its time for me to do the same. Well done man, keep up the good work!

Thanks man. I'll be following your progress.

(02-05-2018 02:11 PM)ksbms Wrote:  

Right now, you need to see the girls as boxes full of information - calibration which girl to approach will yield better results than just spamming whatever a girl you find attractive. Learn to see the right cues, from obvious eye-contact and her smiling at you to a little bit more of hip sway indicating she might be ovulating. You want to open, ideally, a girl who is interested (in you) and available (to you). This will take some time, quite likely a reference experience of a few hundred sets plus observing, say, 2000+ girls how they carry themselves, dress, and behave in a public space. If work on that consistently and systematically, you should see some results around 3-6 months mark (proviso you look at least average, have already decent body language, read relevant literature, dress well and are willing to push forward no matter responses you get. And most importantly, process feedback, learn from experiences, self-diagnose and improve each session working on particular skill). I recommend to start audio (and video, though audio good enough) recording as soon as possible.

Great insight.

[Aquarius]

Thanks for all the great advice y'all!

I haven't been daygaming for quite a while since my parents were in town for Chinese New Year and I had a really bad case of severe flu.

While I'm still pretty sick now, my sore throat and fever has gone. Today I've been feeling good enough to resume normal activities so after class, I went to the grocery store. I still have a stuffy nose so while not 100% for daygaming, due to the excellent weather and not doing this for 3 weeks, I decided to daygame away anyways.

At the grocery store, I spotted a cute nerdy chick looking at the fruits/veggies section. I went up to her and opened her on the bananas she was getting.

We chatted about bananas and the different juices and fruits on display and then we talked about where she went to school. Turned out we go to the same school, but she's an undergrad while I'm in grad school.

While her English is perfect, I noticed she had a non-American vibe. I guessed where she's from. After a few guesses, I got the correct answer (Russia). I then spoke some rudimentary Russian to her, and chatted about my trip to Moscow and how much I enjoyed the city. Turned out that she's from a smaller city on the Chinese border that's on my list of cities to visit, and we chatted a little about that.

I then asked her if she wanna hang out. She says that she's very busy because my school is hard (it really is a tough school). I then joke that "how come all Eastern European and Russian girls are always so busy?" She laughed, and then I let her enter her digits into my phone, which she did, I told her to be "super excited when I text you OK?" She said "OK, but I'm very busy" for the second time, and we parted ways.

I think that likely she'll flake on me, but I am still feeling semi-sick and clearly not in the best mood for daygaming so this is kinda expected. She didn't respond in Russian when I spoke Russian to her, and the fact that she said she's "busy" not once but twice, probably means that she won't be responding to my texts but I'll try anyways.

[Aquarius]

Today is the last day of a week of abnormally comfortable weather here in Atlanta, 80 degrees and sunny. Being perhaps on my last day of my nasty flu and my first day of feeling normal again, I decided to go for a jog and enjoy the last day of nice weather in my city, took some Sudafed, and daygamed in the process.

However, my results today are quite disappointing. First of all, I spent most of my time in Piedmont Park and the Beltline which is right net to Piedmont Park, as I don't really daygame for the sake of daygaming and primarily wanted to enjoy the nice weather.

There were a ton of people both in Piedmont Park and the Beltline and were extremely crowded. However, in a span of 4 hours, I saw maybe 15 girls who were bangable walking alone. Among the hundreds of hot bangable girls that I saw, almost all of them were either in groups of larger than 2, or with their boyfriends or husbands.

I did approach one girl from behind. She was a tall blonde, dressed pretty stylishly, and I'd rate her at least a 8 if not a 9. Since I was doing this on the walking trail, I decided to go direct.

Me: "Excuse me, hey, I saw you walking, and I think you're cute. I just wanna say hey"

Her: "Oh hey, thank you!"

Me: "Its such a nice day today, what are you up to?"

She keeps on walking and doesn't stop as I'm walking backwards literally right in front of her. so I said "hey stop stop stop" (in pretty much the same way Krauser stops girls who refuse to stop, which I learned from watching one of his infields). She stops.

Her: "Meeting my friends in the PCM." *awkward pause* "Let me be upfront, but I have a boyfriend"

Me: "OK, does he treat you well?"

Her: "Yeah, he lives in Lindbergh." (that's a weird statement totally out of the blue, but we all know girls aren't as logical us or need to be as socially smooth as we do) "Are you also going to the PCM?"

*She starts walking again. I walk backwards a few steps just to finish the last sentence I wanna say below*

Me: "I'm just chilling and enjoying the weather out here today, but hey thanks for the conversation, I'll catch you later!"

Well I did go to the entrance of PCM to get a popsicle, and then continued my way up the Beltline to Piedmont Park, walking past tens if not hundreds of bangable chicks with their boyfriends. As I was doing so, I literally cussed under my breath, but that type of response was kinda expected with someone with my stats approaching a blonde 8 or 9.

Once I got to the park, I saw a girl playing with her German shepherd alone. I couldn't tell her age as she was wearing a cap, but she had a really tight and athletic body, so I decided to approach her indirect. After I approached her, I got a closer look and she looked like she's in her 30s and getting into MILF territory, so while I knew that I didn't want to bang her for sure, I still talked to her like if I was talking to a girl my age since I already approached anyways.

I approached by telling her that I'm looking to get a dog and I asked her if her dog is a good one. We had a pretty good conversation about her dog, the toy he was playing with, and I made up a BS but good story about why I wanted a dog (I have no interest in getting one), and told her some funny real stories about a friend's dog. She laughed at some of them and it was a conversation that actually went quite well.

However, as we wrapped up, I didn't go for a number close, and just thanked her for the conversation, told her to have fun playing with her dog, and left because being 20, I'm looking for girls under 22 and 25 is my upper limit. Definitely no MILFs for me.

After jogging around the park listening to music with my earbuds for 1 more hour, I finally saw a target, a cute short blonde girl, I'd say a 6.5, and I direct approached her from behind. Granted, I made a mistake of opening her just after getting ahead of her and before making eye contact, so I kinda startled her. Again, like the previous 9 I opened on the trail, she thanked me for my compliment, and told me she's actually meeting her boyfriend for a dinner date soon, and we parted ways.

So I went home, empty handed again, and actually feeling a bit depressed this time. Perhaps I'm getting a bit burned out, but I'm still gonna keep trying. So far, I've done maybe around 15 daygame approaches, getting a number roughly 1/3 of the time, and all of these numbers went nowhere.

I think its also the difference between direct vs indirect game. When you approach girls that are walking, direct game is probably the only way to do it, and its extremely difficult to get a number this way. I find more success doing indirect game, but I gotta try everything in order to get a feel of whether it works or not.

I'll probably post up at coffee shops to do work next week (I usually work alone in my apt), do more grocery store approaches, and see if I have more success.

[Aquarius]

So I went to the same coffee shop that I went to a few weeks back when it closed early for Super Bowl. The barista this time was hot and dressed quite provocatively but I didn't open her.

As I walked into the coffee shop, it looked quite depressing at first, being a hipster gay sausage fest (no joke). So I stayed and did some work since I got there anyways. Then gradually a few hot chicks started streaming in, with up to 5 girls that I'd totally bang by the time I made my approach.

At the table I was sitting at, there was this girl that was also sitting there. She looked slightly older than me, was hot, dressed really well, and looked a bit foreign. I'd say she's a 7.5. My guess is that she's Romanian but may very well be just American. I wanted to open her, but chickened out as my main target was Approach #15 below who seemed easier to approach than her. Just as I sensed she was about to leave, I wanted to open her anyways just to try but after a few minutes when I actually felt ready to approach, she put her laptop into her purse and was getting up to leave, so didn't get to open her.

I think I chickened out on her because I got rejected quite brutally on Saturday by a similar well dressed hot tall chick out of my league.

Approach #15

This is the first time I got COCKBLOCKED during daygame. As I am about to leave the coffee shop I went to this cute and very bangable, but not exactly hot, blonde sorority girl who also goes to my university, sitting at a table by the entrance. I'd peg her at a 6.5 maybe a 7. I went up to her and opened her on her laptop. While the conversation topic went well, my voice got a little bit shaky (but not exactly a stutter, I did sound a little nervous) and I didn't speak loud enough for some reason probably due to chickening out on approaching the previous 7.5 at my table, which significantly increased my approach anxiety on this girl, so I wouldn't have gotten her number anyways.

I just opened her on her laptop and we each talked about our respective laptops and their pros and cons, and I changed this topic into a story of how my laptop literally burned in Montreal (the big bait), but she didn't bite the bait. At that point, I attempted to go into Galnuc anyways by switching the conversation about my school, as I can tell she goes to my school with stickers of her sorority letters and the name of my school on her laptop.

But lo and behold, 2 or 3 minutes into the conversation, her friend, a blonde hipster 6, who was sitting 2 tables away who I had no clue was her friend, shows up out of nowhere and stands right next to her to "ask her a question about homework" and at that time, the 6.5 I was chatting to had to end this conversation by saying

"So does this answer all your questions about my laptop?"

and at that point, I knew I was screwed and ejected. And guess what? They left literally just a few steps behind me, so its probably more likely being a cockblock then genuinely asking her friend a question.

[Aquarius]

Yesterday was a rainy day and it only stopped raining late in the PM, so I stayed all home all day to do work.

However, I did go to the grocery store yesterday, and I did a couple of approaches.

Approach #16

I was at the ice cream and cake section and saw this brunette with a great body and long hair looking at cake from the freezer. Without knowing her age, I walked over and opened her on the cake. My opener was the following:

"Excuse me, I'm looking to get some dessert for my once a week cheat meal, should I get cake or ice cream?"

I think it was a great opener as she responded positively to it. Also, she's a great conversationalist and had a cute thick southern accent that's getting increasingly rare in my city especially for those my age. She told me I should get the cake, and we compared the pros and cons of cake and ice cream, and the different brands of cake and ice cream.

Since she wasn't a big fan of commercial ice cream but loved cake and gelato and she emphasized how gelato is Italian, I dropped the big bait that the best ice cream I had was in Russia (well, I actually think Russian ice cream was underwhelming but that can be another topic for another day). She bit the bait and was surprised how Russia had great ice cream since all she hears in the media is Trump derangement "hacking".

But at that point, she told me she was 36 and that she never been on an airplane before. I think she could feel I was hitting on her and could tell I'm much younger than her, and while I guessed she was late 20s when I talked to her, I didn't know she was that old. At that point, we wished each other good luck and mutually ejected.

I was very surprised she was 36 because I initially approached her seeing she was pretty svelte and dressed like a girl my age with long hair in a pony tail, leggings, and cowgirl boots.

While she was way too old for me, she was a fresh change from the liberal white college girls that has accounted for almost all of my daygame approaches so far, being so much better at conversations, friendlier, and sweeter. Perhaps coming of age when social media didn't exist plus being a provincial farm girl who never been on an airplane shielded her from the bitchiness or outright lack of social skills that I deal with in many of my approaches.

Its not exactly an age thing either as the few conservative southern girls from the smaller cities my age that I know are similarly much sweeter than their northern or big city counterparts. Even though she didn't respond when I messaged her, I remember one of the most pleasant conversations I've had in social circle/night game was with a cute southern girl from Mobile, Alabama. On the other hand, girls especially from the Bos-Wash corridor are the cuntiest that I've dealt with, where I've been blatantly told to f*ck off by one of them before.

Approach #17

I spotted this girl who was a 5.5 who goes to my university. She was nothing home to right about since she was really big, not that fat, but just like a giant and was taller and perhaps wider than me. I'd give her a 5, if not a 4, if she didn't have long blonde hair as I have a thing for blondes.

There's this really popular brand of sparkling water that she has, so I opened her on that. And since I was not that interested in her and she being a much poorer conversationalist and wasn't that eager with my approach, the conversation sounded extremely forced.

For some reason I was rambling on and on like an idiot about how if you buy a bad brand of sparkling water, it tastes like salt water. I told her that the ones she had looked really popular and I wanted to just buy 1 bottle to try but they all come in packs of 12, and I hope that they don't taste salty and burn my tongue (Wtf Aquarius, what are you even saying?). And my idea of a "big bait" at that time was telling her that when I was in Russia, all the sparkling water there tasted salty (blatantly made this shit up and didn't make sense). Of course, the conversation at that point sounded ridiculous if not autistic so she ejected.

Lesson #1:

DO NOT approach girls that you don't turn you on, and if they don't seem eager in talking with you and you run out of things to say, eject instead of forcing a conversation otherwise you'll just seem like an autist.

Also, make sure you know what you want to say before you approach, and if you want to discuss about an object, make sure its one that you are able to ramble about, as you want to spend a good 2-3 minutes talking about the object you are opening on before dropping bait.

Looking back, if sparkling water isn't a subject that I can hold a conversation in, and she didn't seem eager at all in talking about it to me, and if she were a WB and I really wanted to continue the conversation, I might've had better luck switching to direct at that moment.

Lesson #2: (from hipster coffee shop on Wednesday)

If you want to approach a girl, don't think too much take a deep breath and JUST APPROACH. If you think about a girl for too long getting intimidated, chickening out, and ponder too much on about how to open, how I'll likely get rejected, and whether other girls will see my failed approach, your "mood" will get utterly ruined and have newbie levels of approach anxiety on the next few girls, complete with a shaky and weak voice and you won't get anywhere for an entire day for sure.

In case you really start thinking these thoughts about the girl, sometimes you can't really control if you are a newbie like me with let me put it bluntly "white fever" as a semi-FOB Chinese guy, completely ignore her presence and assume that she just rejected you so you can focus and move on to other girls smoothly. If you don't, then you'll end up like me on Wednesday.

[SLSlayer]

“If you want to approach a girl, don't think too much take a deep breath and JUST APPROACH. If you think about a girl for too long getting intimidated, chickening out, and ponder too much on about how to open, how I'll likely get rejected, and whether other girls will see my failed approach, your "mood" will get utterly ruined and have newbie levels of approach anxiety on the next few girls, complete with a shaky and weak voice and you won't get anywhere for an entire day for sure.”

Very true. Well said.

[Aquarius]

Today I did some work at another coffee shop in a different neighborhood. Its a great place to pick up girls. If there's any Atlanta forum members who want to know which one it is, send me a PM! There were some hipsters there but had a far less pretentious vibe and many more normal girls mixed in than the one I went to Wednesday.

The coffee shop in Westside Atlanta (I'm sure all ATL members know exactly which place I'm talking about) where I was last week is way too inundated with hipsters, followed by pretentious gay black dudes taking photos nonstop of their coffee and pastry. But this is expected since this was a former unsafe and abandoned industrial area on the edge of the ghetto that has one of the highest concentrations of restaurants and cafes in Atlanta. There are still countless warehouses left, most of the cool hipster restaurants, bars, and stores are in former warehouses, and the roads and sidewalks there are still in horrendous quality at the level of an actual ghetto.

Approach #18 - Ginger 6.5 in yoga pants and a leather jacket

So in this place today, I chose a seat that everybody would assume is good on the surface that Roosh mentions in Day Bang at one of the communal tables. I should've taken one closer to the exit/bathroom but totally forgot about that chapter from Day Bang. As I was waiting for my drink, which took them 5 minutes to get made, I sat for a while at the bar right next to the cashier registers. There was this 6.5 ginger sitting next to me working on her laptop alone, so I approached her.

I elderly opened her about her laptop. We discussed laptops for maybe a couple of minutes, comparing what I had with hers, and talked about my battery problems as usual. I then told her that I picked this coffee shop after finding on reddit that it has a very high concentration of power outlets to do work. At that point, I told her that I am a STEM grad student and described to her what work is like. I did so without boring her out as she was asking me questions and pretty responsive and talkative; I remember that she told me she works from home and so also sets up in a coffee shop. From here, we had a nice conversation that lasted 7 or 8 mins so I seamlessly inserted Galnuc by asking her if she comes to this coffee shop a lot. She said she does and we compared the pros and cons of various coffee shops that we've been to. Then I ask her if she's half German, and from there she told me that she's a Western European mutt. Since she mentioned "Europe" I told her that the only European country I've been to is Russia. She actually bit the bait even though we're in Galnuc by asking me what is cool in Moscow, and how she has 2 Russian friends and how 1 hates Russia and never goes back and the other goes back.

It was a great conversation so I ended the conversation like this:

Me: "Well you seem cool wanna hang out later?"

Her: "Thank you, it was a great conversation by the way, but I think I'm a lot older than you even though I look young"

Me: "Well you can always wine and dine younger guys."

Her: "I've tried it before and it doesn't work"

Me: "Thanks, and good luck with work!"

So that was the end.

Approach #19 - Aquarius goes full Marcobot

I worked for a few hours and as usual, I'd periodically look up to see if any hot chicks come in. So when I looked up this time, I saw this blonde chick in fancy earrings and high heeled boots order a drink. Of course, I looked up and saw at least 3 other good targets but they were all seated at tables at the corners and given that I'm at the communal tables, following Roosh's advice I would've scared the cats. But this blonde sat right next to the exit and trash can so there was a good opportunity to approach.

When I left, she was still there, so as I threw my trash away and about to head out the door, I opened by asking what papers she was reading. She told me it was Spanish. As she looked up to me, what I originally assumed is gonna be an 8 judging from how she looked from behind turned out to be a 5.5 with a busted face. Pretty much identical to Amy Schumer's face. Bummer.

Since I'm already there and haven't gotten any results yet, I gotta continue the conversation as something is better than nothing. then rambled about how I'm learning Russian and that its so hard, and asked her if Spanish was easier. She told me that it probably depends on my first language, and I told her that my first language was Chinese and that Russian is totally different. She seemed introverted at least during the day so she spoke quietly and gave terse responses, but at least she was engaging in the conversation. I didn't feel that comfortable literally standing up and staring down at an Amy Schumer lookalike who I originally thought was gonna be a 7+, so I asked her if I can sit down, to see if I can rebuild comfort. She said yeah.

Even if sitting down and staring straight at her instead of down at her, my vibe has already been ruined. I still tried my best and dropped the big bait that I love travelling, and how I learned Russian because I was impressed with Moscow, and told her that Latin America is on my list of places to go (not really). She told me she been. I asked her what's her favorite thing about it, that's how I went full Marcobot

Me: "I'm planning a vacation to Latin America and I've heard Colombia and Argentina are cool. When you visited Latin America, what is your favorite thing about it, just curious, what is your favorite thing about it?"

OK, this is it. Time for Aquarius to eject. I wanted to ask her what was her favorite country in Latin America AND I repeated the question twice. I know I was done with that conversation, because even if I still had a fighting chance to get her number, I literally had no clue how to continue the conversation from uttering that out. So I wished her good luck studying Spanish, ejected, and left the coffee shop.

Looking back, opening her wasn't exactly the best, because her seat was backed up against the window and there's a column separating the trash can from her seat tucked in the column. Also she was seated at some couch that's really low so as I opened her standing up, I was literally staring down at her, making me feel awkward. Plus she looked like Amy Schumer. But her responses weren't actually that bad and if I wasn't the one feeling uncomfortable, I could've at least had a smooth conversation if not getting a number.


Question for Experienced Players : Why I always seem to do really, REALLY bad when I eye a girl for a while but approach later (say, 30+ mins if in a coffee shop, or passing at least 3 times in a grocery store)? This is one thing I really want to improve. Holding my frame when approaching girls that I've "located" for a while.

[Mr_Nobody]

Doing good so far. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to meeting up and improving on this journey!

[Aquarius]

Thanks for the words of encouragement Mr_Nobody! Definitely looking forward to hanging out on Saturday.

Today I did 2 more approaches in the grocery store.

Approach #20

Blonde 6 looking at sour cream. This is what I opened her on. I asked her if the sour cream she's looking at is any good. She said she's not sure and that she's just buying whatever a recipe told her to buy. I then rambled a bit about how cooking can be very tiring, since there's some chocolate pudding right next to the sour cream, I feel tempted to just buy that as dinner. She laughed at my joke. I then proceeded to tell her that I'm looking for sour cream as I was looking to cook Russian food (big bait). No response to the bait, so I started Galnuc.

I noticed that she was wearing a jacket with my university's logo on it, so I asked her if she goes to my school, basically starting Galnuc with L. She said she does and that she studies the same major that I'm getting my masters degree in. We discussed various professors; turns out that our least favorite professor in the dept is the same guy, and chatted to her for a while about the different courses we've taken. As this conversation topic dries up, I suddenly change conversation topics by starting with "by the way" and went into G. Except I ask her if she's half Polish, because she's blonde. She said she isn't and how she's a western European mutt (like most white American girls). I then told her how I really want to visit Western Europe (well, I don't; no interest in visiting Islamized and/or overtouristed Western Europe for leisure anywhere east of Poland. Not even Czech Republic.)

At this point, she told me that she needs to leave as the sour cream and eggs she was carrying might spoil. But since I invested almost 10 mins in the conversation and it went smooth and well, I went for the number.

Me: "Well you seem cool wanna hang out some time?"

Her: *big pause* "ummm, I have a boyfriend"

Me: "Well does he treat you well?"

Her: "Yeah he does and we've been together for a while"

Me: "Alright, nice talking to you, good luck with your studies!"

So there was that. No number

Approach #21

Brunette athletic 8 in a cap and super tight body in yoga pants with excellent ass looking at bacon. I approached by asking her that I'm looking for meats that I can cook quickly, and if bacon is the best choice for that. She said yeah so I ask her if this is a good brand of bacon. She then said all bacon are the same. I refuted her by saying that the way they are cured and the amount of fat and skinny meat really matters. She changed her mind and agreed on me here.

I then told her that even though the most meat I buy is bacon, my favorite meat is a good medium rare steak, and I eat it at restaurants because I'm worried about food poisoning in undercooked meat. At least if a restaurant gave me food poisoning its on them, and if I food poison myself, its on me and I have no one to blame. She laughed and agreed with me. Then she wished me a good evening and left.

I only approached her because she was really attractive and I literally started to feel my dick get hard just by seeing her ass. But you could tell that she didn't wanna linger too long as she wasn't even carrying a basket and probably lived nearby to just made a quick stop to the grocery store getting some bacon.

Another day, no success, oh well, gotta keep approaching.

[Winston Wolfe]

(03-06-2018 03:44 AM)Aquarius Wrote:  

Question for Experienced Players : Why I always seem to do really, REALLY bad when I eye a girl for a while but approach later (say, 30+ mins if in a coffee shop, or passing at least 3 times in a grocery store)? This is one thing I really want to improve. Holding my frame when approaching girls that I've "located" for a while.

Interested to hear answers to this as well.

This exact same thing happens to me too. I think it's a form of approach anxiety which you force yourself to overcome by "just approaching", except it really isn't "just approaching" since you've basically been planning it.

It's almost like she can "sense" that you've been planning to do this, or maybe that's what you've been telling yourself and in your mind it's already true. You feel a bit creepy and as a result, your actual vibe probably becomes a bit creepy.

When this happens, on the one hand I'm glad I went through with the approach anyway, but on the other hand there's almost always something off in my vibe.

I tend to do much better when I see a girl and immediately decide to approach and then do it.

[ksbms]

My opener was the following:

"Excuse me, I'm looking to get some dessert for my once a week cheat meal, should I get cake or ice cream?"

I think it was a great opener [...] She told me I should get the cake, and we compared the pros and cons of cake and ice cream, and the different brands of cake and ice cream.

Since she wasn't a big fan of commercial ice cream but loved cake and gelato and she emphasized how gelato is Italian, I dropped the big bait that the best ice cream I had was in Russia [...]

At the grocery store, I spotted a cute nerdy chick looking at the fruits/veggies section. I went up to her and opened her on the bananas she was getting.

We chatted about bananas and the different juices and fruits on display [...]

I approached by asking her that I'm looking for meats that I can cook quickly, and if bacon is the best choice for that. She said yeah so I ask her if this is a good brand of bacon. She then said all bacon are the same. I refuted her by saying that the way they are cured and the amount of fat and skinny meat really matters. [...] I then told her that even though the most meat I buy is bacon, my favorite meat is a good medium rare steak, and I eat it at restaurants because I'm worried about food poisoning in undercooked meat.

This is pure comedy. Are you serious or just having a laugh?! This has to stop

Bro, best food & drink infused gift of the gab won't make a pussy tingle. It may be a way to a man's heart but salacious beef pastramis garnered with organic gherkins, whisky cranachans and icy affogados, tonkotsu ramen and chicken gyōza won't make for a personalised conversation. Here's your prayer: Open, Stack, Vibe, Spike, Close. Repeat until you remember by heart in deep sleep.

OPEN
Say something relatable to a girl, can be funny, easiest is about her looks, nationality, clothes. For Christ's sake, stop asking them about food. It's fake, makes difficult to transition (unless you switch hard by revealing your intentions but that's a gimmicky bait & switch technique, not to mention it introduces redundancy) to the "meat & bacon" at hand and makes you like an indecisive schlob who can't decide what to eat to save his life. Not to mention you're hiding your balls in a bank's cold and dark vault.

STACK
For a minute keep talking about a personal topic so you can reach a hook point. This is a moment when a girl decides she wants more of the interaction.

VIBE
Create a connection by talking about you, about me. Learn 3 things about her, make her learn three things about you interestingly served.

SPIKE
Keep dominant eye-contact at all times, make her break it first. That's a cardinal rule. If you look away first, it's game over. Women know this deep down in the murky cortical columns of their brain stems the basic tenets of dominance. Look up her legs or boobs or ass and tell her you like the shape and approve. Touch her hands, shoulders, hips, prode belly, touch her hair.

CLOSE
Qualify why you want to see her again and close on a high point. Take whatsapp, message on the spot, say a few more words, shake hands/hug, leave.

That's the basic template. Anymore food approaches and I start to ridicule you.

Best of luck

Hint - Google up London Daygame Model.

[Aquarius]

Well I'm trying to use the coffee shop elderly game in the grocery store, following the roosh day bang model. And of course the best prop in a grocery store is food. I need to at least justify why I'm even talking to a girl in a grocery store. I only use direct game in the parks or streets. And i don't wanna get kicked out and banned my grocery store by going direct. At least i can justify why I'm talking to girls when i ask them about food. Gonna be too inconvenient to buy food otherwise as its the only grocery store less than half a mile away.

Sorry not gonna chase after a girl while pushing a shopping cart and do the whole front stop thing with that cart in a grocery store with employees hanging around on every other aisle stacking shelves and out of the blue give them a compliment using the krauser and torero model.

And I've watched London daygame youtube infields. I have done direct game as you can see but only in parks and streets you know public places. London model has its place and I dont think grocery stores are the place unless you can prove otherwise, especially if I'm there to shop myself first and daygame second.

[ksbms]

Ok man, keep your foodie chat at your peril. If you get a girl on a second date back home, I'll personally deliver the pepperonni pizza.