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Raising "Good Men/Women" ABC Segment
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Raising "Good Men/Women" ABC Segment

I didn't see a topic on this but I wanted to bring this to the forum's attention on how the political gender war is being brought to kids in America. This will come to nobody's surprise and I'm sure it's even worse in countries like Canada, UK, Australia, and Scandinavia, but I thought the forum could use a specific example on how this is being framed for children growing up and to see an example of how future children will be influenced in a certain way.






The first video interviews boys in their vulnerable teenage middle and high school years. There's about three minutes of actual interview video for each video but for those that don't want to watch, this one basically brings up a good point on how boys do feel pressure to keep their feelings to themselves.

But, that's where the positivity ends. The negatives are not surprising in that the interviewer frames some questions as if boys are automatically harassers and rapists, and basically trains the boys to be future white knights. Also, for my positive point earlier, they of course don't dive deeper as to why guys keep their feelings to themselves, which is because we know the truth of it losing frame to our women and being more important to keep our cards hidden.






This one was a bit painful to watch if I have to be honest. These are college guys maybe a couple of years younger than me that I feel like will all grow up to be betas.

One big thing this interview did was villainize men who talked about women in any kind of sexual way. None of the boys felt comfortable with locker room talk and depicted it as evil that men were talking about women as "objects" instead of equals. I think one big thing this feminist movement has caused is for some men to lose any kind of sexual feelings. We're forgetting that this stuff is normal with people who have a ridiculous amount of hormones and the more I read and see, the more I believe the numbers about sexual escapades being down in this generation.

The other part talks about alcohol consumption. The implied frame is that responsibility falls on men to stop things from getting carried away, whether white knighting sober or controlling yourself drunk. One part I agree with here is that people can change from good to bad when drunk, because I've seen and done that myself. However, what I don't agree with is that everything should fall on men. This interview fails to account women for getting themselves drunk and implies that any kind of drunk sex is automatically the man's fault and can't be consensual.






This last video kind of gave me chills not really because of anything specifically said in here, but because of how ABC used these innocent little girls to fulfill their propaganda. Seriously, if you watch the video, you'll see that boys feeling superior or tyrannically abusive was never a thought in their mind and they were thinking what normal little girls think of with the worst thing happening with "their space" is getting lice from a hug.

I understand that can be good and bad but my overall point is I feel like ABC is contributing to a problem of villainizing boys and men to people that don't have or see a problem that frankly is overblown and put under a ridiculous microscope that is only worsening the problem of framing men in the younger western generation.


There was one more video that just aired today that interviewed high school girls. It had one good point about bringing up social media validation but I feel like the whole segment is kind of coddling the girls compared to the boys which none of us would be surprised about and bringing up a gender war that doesn't need to happen.

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Raising "Good Men/Women" ABC Segment

Great find. Thanks for posting.

I want to point out that ABC is owned by Disney, which owns Hollywood Records.

That's the record label that brought us Miley Cyrus pole dancing while underage (at 16) at the 2009 Teen Choice Awards. They were also Cyrus' record label when she danced half-naked with Robin Thicke at the MTV video awards show in 2013.

So, if boys are "objectifying" women (a bullshit concept, but I digress) who is creating the environment in which they do that? I'd say it's ABC/Disney.

That said, these interviews show me the media is the new Catholic Church, attempting to de-sexualize men. EVERYONE is sexual and every views everyone else as sexual in some way. Getting certain people to repress these feelings is a recipe for disaster.

Why aren't they asking Miley to repress her sexuality?



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Quote: (02-02-2018 10:15 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

That said, these interviews show me the media is the new Catholic Church, attempting to de-sexualize men.

You're onto something here. The fact is that the MSM (among others) have effectively become high priests of a new secular church of Radical Leftism. For the most part, religions suck and are usually repressive, but at least with the historical religions everyone had some repenting to do. But in the secular Church of Equalism, only the "privileged" have Original Sin (ie, men, white people, etc).

What we saw in that segment was nothing less than young boys enduring ritual confession, flogging & repentance for their supposed Original Sin. The fact that their parents saw fit to permit this says everything about where we are as a society right now.

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Raising "Good Men/Women" ABC Segment

I view women through a sexual lens, this is not bad. The only women I view otherwise is my patients, whom I see though a clinical lens which is non sexual and professional. it is weird to meet a 9/10 and not even notice her attractiveness , but I am consumed with her symptoms and getting her to better health-it is weird not viewing women as sexual beings , but instead people you want to help and follow up on to insure a good health outcome. This is the strangest part of my understanding of women as human beings, not sexual objects to be consumed, I genuinely care about their health outcomes and have zero sexual attraction to them.It has changed me.

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Raising "Good Men/Women" ABC Segment

Quote: (02-02-2018 01:04 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

I view women through a sexual lens, this is not bad. The only women I view otherwise is my patients, whom I see though a clinical lens which is non sexual and professional. it is weird to meet a 9/10 and not even notice her attractiveness , but I am consumed with her symptoms and getting her to better health-it is weird not viewing women as sexual beings , but instead people you want to help and follow up on to insure a good health outcome. This is the strangest part of my understanding of women as human beings, not sexual objects to be consumed, I genuinely care about their health outcomes and have zero sexual attraction to them.It has changed me.

I work with physicians and surgeons every day, and some of them cannot do what you describe here. Some of them cannot prevent the flow of sexual thoughts during patient care.

On the other hand... I see some that become so used to blocking sexual thoughts when with patients they begin to do that outside of work as well.
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Raising "Good Men/Women" ABC Segment

This is more of the propaganda and it starts early.

The girls are being told a bunch of empowering bullshit.

And the boys are being taught to be clit-swinging demure Big-Bang-Theory-like inept Beta men.

The first vid even had one point:

+ a classmate is putting his hand on a girl "without her consent"

They instantly saw this as fucking sexual assault as if he was waiting in the bushes and jumping on a strange woman pinning her down with a knife to her throat.

This is the kind of example that is given. First of all - it's possible that there was understood consent. If the girl does nothing with the hand of the boy, then she obviously liked it and he read the signs properly. This is not as if he was Stalin's son and had to let him do anything there.
That scene alone is at best a bad pass. The girl should react by hitting the boy or telling him off. She knows the guy for fuck's sake. It's not as if a stranger is doing it in a train who she is not interested in at all. Only if he continues doing it after having been told to stop - then it is molestation, if he uses force then it becomes assault. But that is simply not happening in the West in school - this is utter lunacy.
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