[nomadbrah]

(01-20-2018 03:32 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

This graph interests me, I saw another one that said serbia was in second place for guns per 100 people.

Yes, this must be registered guns, not all the illegal guns from the balkans.

[Kona]

I hope for the sake of Mohammed, Ahmed, Mohammed, and the rest of the Swedish people's that their military hardware is not made by Volvo.

You can breathe on a Penta the wrong way and it's a 10k repair bill.

Aloha!

[Foolsgo1d]

(01-20-2018 12:49 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

At this point being invaded by Russians might actually save Sweden from its own self immolation.

Plus, you'd get lots of awesome battle scenes of muslim rapefugees getting blown to bits trying to fling their shitty stolen grenades at Russian tanks.

It would be anything but.

The nuclear option aside anywhere Russia goes the US anti-boogeyman force goes and with it perpetual strife, conflict and war. Look at Ukraine and that absolute fucking mess in Syria. Just now Turkey is attacking the Kurds there and some foreign power is attacking Russian and Syrian forces.

Not good. The jaffas and ahmeds are mere pawns when the big boys slug it out. They can help to undermine a society and over time destroy its origins but its nowhere enar as destructive as US v Russia proxy wars.

[911]

(01-20-2018 12:30 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 10:58 AM)Cobra Wrote:  

What are they fighting with? Dildos for weapons and pussy hats for protection?

Lots of guns in Sweden.

Lots of wild game and hunters in rural areas.

(01-20-2018 12:20 PM)godzilla Wrote:  

Sweden doesn't need to join NATO. The 60, 000 American troops in Europe arent going to just sit there and watch.

I can tell you from living in Estonia that the Fins and Baltic states take a possible invasion very seriously and I believe their fear of one is genuine whether Russia is a bogeyman or not.

I wouldn't underestimate the scandi countries at war with Russia. Theyre ecomically powerful and more advanced. Cucked or not. In 1939, even though they lost, Finland absolutely slaughtered Russian troops for most of the winter war.

Right, in order for Russia to get to Sweden, they would have to go through Finland, which even big mean Stalin wasn't able to do. Fact is, the Russians are very tough when fighting for their homeland against invaders, but the advantage flips when they are doing the invading, and the Finns are fighting to defend their soil.

This whole thing is a BS psyop of Swedish globalists on their population, to get them closer to NATO and to stoke Russiaphobia, and by extension hatred of Putin's brand of Christian neo-traditionalism.

(01-20-2018 07:59 AM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

Sweden cold've avoided all this by joining NATO, but they didn't want to do so.

All of the sudden, it doesn't sem like a bad idea, eh? LOL

NATO is obsolete.

[godzilla]

(01-20-2018 03:08 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  

Sweden, the most cucked country on the planet preparing for war with Russia one of the alpha country on the planet.



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Sweden is already having problem keeping its own welfare system from collapsing that they had to rise the age of retirement.

This looks like a clean slate moment, how do you solve the migration problem in Sweden without looking racist? easy, let the Russian deal with it.

On top of that, Sweden is not a NATO member.

You know we are living in strange times when a Russian invasion becomes the best solution to save Western civilization in Europe.

Russia has its fair share of fat or socially awkward men. Take a look at some employees at major tech companies and you'll see what I'm talking about.

From what I've seen in Sweden, A lot of guys keep in very good shape at the very least.

A lot of the Scandi countries all have required military service as well.

Like I said I wouldn't estimate these countries.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(01-20-2018 12:30 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Lots of guns in Sweden.

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Irrelevant other than to wage resistance against occupation.

(01-20-2018 01:23 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

Any declaration of war with a state would most likely see IP addresses from those countries and allies blacklisted. We'd see undersea cables shutdown and the world internet sealed.

Blocking and sealing off parts of the internet is trivial. Businesses would get pissed, but they'll get over it.

Sleeper agents and satellite communication.

The West has gotten used to their wars being something that happens somewhere else to someone else. Go to war with Russia and by next winter you will be eating your pets.

[nomadbrah]

(01-20-2018 09:44 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(01-20-2018 12:30 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Lots of guns in Sweden.

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Irrelevant other than to wage resistance against occupation.

Useful to fight the zombie migrant horde.

[scotian]

I had drinks with a Lithuanian guy tonight and learned that Russia has a territorial “exclave” between Lithuania and Poland called Kaliningrad that dates back to the Prussian era. Its Russian territory and as such most westerners need a visa to enter it, I have no idea how much military hardware is there but I dare say there’s enough to launch an attack if push comes to shove. Hopefully the hype is only to prep the Swedes for a swift “social cleansing” of their shitty ethic ghettos and not the onset of a third world war.

[Biologist]

(01-20-2018 05:37 PM)911 Wrote:  

This whole thing is a BS psyop of Swedish globalists on their population, to get them closer to NATO and to stoke Russiaphobia, and by extension hatred of Putin's brand of Christian neo-traditionalism.

Spot on.

There is absolutely no way that Russia is going to perform a military invasion of Sweden.

Russia/Putin is just being used as a scapegoat by the Swedish government and media in order to get people to stop thinking about the very serious, real threat which is already within their borders.

[sterling_archer]

Is it a coincidence that Swedish government talks about using military to fight the gangs and that we recently heard about supposed French plan of "cleaning the neighborhoods"? I think that there is a possibility that we might not get european caliphate and instead we get this gradual cleaning of cities. Maybe those on the top decided a different action, a bit different that we usually discuss at Migrant Invasion thread.

[Seth_Rose]

(01-21-2018 08:03 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

Is it a coincidence that Swedish government talks about using military to fight the gangs and that we recently heard about supposed French plan of "cleaning the neighborhoods"? I think that there is a possibility that we might not get european caliphate and instead we get this gradual cleaning of cities. Maybe those on the top decided a different action, a bit different that we usually discuss at Migrant Invasion thread.

Wasn't this the plan all along though? To flood western European cities with third-world migrants, who would inevitably cause choas, that could only be stemmed by a military presence? At least that's something Alex Jones probably said...

Also, in the event Sweden and Russia did actually go to war, I wonder how many Swedes would work with Russia? Russia could promise that they would work to get rid of the Muslim migrants. I bet there's a lot of young, Swedish soldiers who would be on board with that plan. And hey, why not kick the socialist government out while they're at it?

[sterling_archer]

I think that plans at the top may not always be planned decades in advance and are subjected to change, especially if something unexpected happens. We could even get something entirely else at the end, who knows.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(01-21-2018 09:07 AM)Seth_Rose Wrote:  

(01-21-2018 08:03 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

Is it a coincidence that Swedish government talks about using military to fight the gangs and that we recently heard about supposed French plan of "cleaning the neighborhoods"? I think that there is a possibility that we might not get european caliphate and instead we get this gradual cleaning of cities. Maybe those on the top decided a different action, a bit different that we usually discuss at Migrant Invasion thread.

Wasn't this the plan all along though? To flood western European cities with third-world migrants, who would inevitably cause choas, that could only be stemmed by a military presence? At least that's something Alex Jones probably said...

Of course they knew what was to happen.

In order to end the fruits of diversity enrichment while still retaining the "diversity" (cannot stop that) you have two options:

1. Orwellian militarized Police surveillance state

2. War with Islam one day

Possible that you will get both.

None of that include a stupid war with Russia - they had similar exercises all throughout the Cold War with the serfs getting scared of the boogieman while the true movers and shakers were certainly partying together with escorts and coke - and laughing about the gullible nature of the people.

The entire exercise is like a Russia collusion article that is set only to deflect of the more pressing issues.

Still I think that the mobilization of the forces is only partly a charade - partly it's an actual preparation of the true war coming for Sweden - those enemies are already in the country and they are numbering more each year.

[JWLZG]

(01-21-2018 02:40 AM)scotian Wrote:  

I had drinks with a Lithuanian guy tonight and learned that Russia has a territorial “exclave” between Lithuania and Poland called Kaliningrad that dates back to the Prussian era. Its Russian territory and as such most westerners need a visa to enter it, I have no idea how much military hardware is there but I dare say there’s enough to launch an attack if push comes to shove. Hopefully the hype is only to prep the Swedes for a swift “social cleansing” of their shitty ethic ghettos and not the onset of a third world war.

Kaliningrad was only Russian territory from 1945 when ex-East Prussia was ceded to it under the Potsdam Agreement from a defeated Germany.

And it was annexed for good reason; as a Europe-leaning exclave of the USSR, it was armed to the teeth as an advance projection of forces if the Cold War ever turned hot.

(01-20-2018 04:03 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

The military tactics are now highly different than they were in the 1940s. As soon as you have supremacy of the air, then you can even air-drop massive divisions in the middle of enemy territory.

That's not how offensive operations work if for the simple reason that air-dropping "massive divisions" requires the sort of aerospace matériel far beyond realism. Airborne operations en masse tend to be bloody, Pyrrhic victories at most.

Anti-aircraft warefare, not to mention air-to-air capabilities have advanced leaps and bounds since the days of Crete and Arnhem. You hardly hear about these sorts of operations because of the inherent vulnerability they face from air, ground, and NBC defence, compared to insertion by foot or mechanised means.
Yes, conventional airborne forces still exist but when was the last time you heard of them being used in any large role?

[Samseau]

Why would Russia invade Sweden, when Sweden is already doing a great job of destroying itself?

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

Russia is more than content to let the West destroy itself before moving in for the carcass. Right now Russia is busy trying to survive with all of the sanctions against them.

[911]

(01-26-2018 12:17 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Why would Russia invade Sweden, when Sweden is already doing a great job of destroying itself?

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

Russia is more than content to let the West destroy itself before moving in for the carcass. Right now Russia is busy trying to survive with all of the sanctions against them.

Sweden is not the enemy of Russia, or vice versa, the globalists are the enemy of both people. They've demolished Russia for almost a century, killing nearly half their population and enslaving the rest, and now they're working on Sweden and the rest of western Europe.

[Cane Toad]

It's an interesting scenario...Russia rakes control of Sweden, Norway and Finland.

Geographically it looks viable. Russia would need to up it's game to get the job gone, but it's not out of the question.

[nomadbrah]

(01-26-2018 08:17 PM)Cane Toad Wrote:  

It's an interesting scenario...Russia rakes control of Sweden, Norway and Finland.

Geographically it looks viable. Russia would need to up it's game to get the job gone, but it's not out of the question.

I'd disagree, Sweden and Norway are very difficult to take and hold. Sweden has vast forested areas and thousands of lakes. Norway is 90% mountains. Sweden actually has a military goal of lasting 6 months in a war against Russia.

[Dulceácido]

Russia can't even beat the Ukrainians... I think they'd have a hard time Sweden, Norway, and Finland.

Edit: Nomad beat me to it.

[Rocha]

(01-26-2018 08:24 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

Russia can't even beat the Ukrainians... I think they'd have a hard time Sweden, Norway, and Finland.

Edit: Nomad beat me to it.

If shit hits the fan Russian army reach Kiev in less than a week. Those Tanks rolling over the Ukrainian plains...Crimea was won in a day, no shots fired.

A few Russian mercs in Donbass is not the Red Army.

[Dulceácido]

(01-26-2018 08:31 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 08:24 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

Russia can't even beat the Ukrainians... I think they'd have a hard time Sweden, Norway, and Finland.

Edit: Nomad beat me to it.

If shit hits the fan Russian army reach Kiev in less than a week. Those Tanks rolling over the Ukrainian plains...Crimea was won in a day, no shots fired.

A few Russian mercs in Donbass is not the Red Army.

Yeah, Crimea went down uncontested, but after that as the Russians tried to continue their advance, we supplied the Ukrainians with tons of anti-tank and heavy weapons and the fight was on. Russians haven't moved since.

Russia says they're mercs, but the ones that have been captured were SPETZNATZ

[Rocha]

(01-26-2018 08:37 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 08:31 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 08:24 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

Russia can't even beat the Ukrainians... I think they'd have a hard time Sweden, Norway, and Finland.

Edit: Nomad beat me to it.

If shit hits the fan Russian army reach Kiev in less than a week. Those Tanks rolling over the Ukrainian plains...Crimea was won in a day, no shots fired.

A few Russian mercs in Donbass is not the Red Army.

Yeah, Crimea went down uncontested, but after that as the Russians tried to continue their advance, we supplied the Ukrainians with tons of anti-tank and heavy weapons and the fight was on. Russians haven't moved since.

It is cool from you as an American to recognize the people of Donbas as Russians )))) I think Putin agrees )))

[Dulceácido]

Isn't that what the fight's all about?

[Cane Toad]

(01-26-2018 08:23 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

I'd disagree, Sweden and Norway are very difficult to take and hold. Sweden has vast forested areas and thousands of lakes. Norway is 90% mountains. Sweden actually has a military goal of lasting 6 months in a war against Russia.

Yeah, but that defensive geo also can work in favour of a stronger, slow moving force that uses it to lock up defensive positions.

Hypothetically, Russia would just need to control air space (which they could do with their ground systems), control sea access off the coast of Norway and then wait six months for a negotiated settlement.

Would NATO intervene? Maybe. But unlikely, given the risk of opening another front.

[Rocha]

(01-26-2018 08:42 PM)Dulceácido Wrote:  

Isn't that what the fight's all about?

Actually no. Although Russian speaking, Donetsk/Lugansk never had claims to independence or joining the Russian Federation, until a Western/US backed coup d'etat threw down a democratically elected president, to put on power a junta which the first thing they did was abolish the Russian language, the mother tongue of those people.

Imagine if in Quebec the french language was forbidden or the other way around...

https://www.rt.com/news/minority-languag...raine-035/