[pancakemouse]

(01-03-2018 07:41 PM)BossOfBosses Wrote:  

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God help you, my friend. I'm guessing a lot of guys here are running the same game, which is why the response rates are so low. Lots of smart guys in tech who have figured this out. Plus girls here aren't really that impressed by status.

Girls are always impressed by status. It's a basic attraction switch. The average tech guy doesn't have enough status to impress them. Worse, tech dudes are too common in SF and the surrounding areas.

A semi-popular musician or DJ is another story. Hell, I was a broke comedian and probably got laid more than a $100k+ tech guy in the same timeframe.

I'm talking about general social status signaling, which matters in some locales (LA, Miami) more than others (Denmark, Sweden). San Francisco is a hub of countersignaling, hence you see billionaires walking around in hoodies and flip flops.

I'm not talking about tech guys having status, I'm talking about tech guys figuring out that they can use tools like Followliker to do what everyone in this thread is doing: give themselves lots of followers to max out their profile and DM random girls on Tinder.

And plus, girls in San Francisco who are making $120K a year as account managers and executive assistants are going to be less impressed by some alleged bigshot than some girl in Nashville who still lives with her parents.

[BossOfBosses]

(01-03-2018 08:42 PM)corsega Wrote:  

(01-03-2018 07:41 PM)BossOfBosses Wrote:  

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God help you, my friend. I'm guessing a lot of guys here are running the same game, which is why the response rates are so low. Lots of smart guys in tech who have figured this out. Plus girls here aren't really that impressed by status.

Girls are always impressed by status. It's a basic attraction switch. The average tech guy doesn't have enough status to impress them. Worse, tech dudes are too common in SF and the surrounding areas.

A semi-popular musician or DJ is another story. Hell, I was a broke comedian and probably got laid more than a $100k+ tech guy in the same timeframe.

I'm talking about general social status signaling, which matters in some locales (LA, Miami) more than others (Denmark, Sweden). San Francisco is a hub of countersignaling, hence you see billionaires walking around in hoodies and flip flops.

I'm not talking about tech guys having status, I'm talking about tech guys figuring out that they can use tools like Followliker to do what everyone in this thread is doing: give themselves lots of followers to max out their profile and DM random girls on Tinder.

And plus, girls in San Francisco who are making $120K a year as account managers and executive assistants are going to be less impressed by some alleged bigshot than some girl in Nashville who still lives with her parents.

True. The hoodie thing isn't so popular anymore though. I'm seeing a lot of guys in blazers and business suits in SF these days.

But honestly DM'ing SF girls isn't really going to give a lot of ROI if your just some average tech guy. You realistically need to get into a niche (art scene, bdsm, DJ etc) to get anywhere. SF girls either have ridiculously high bar or set it ridiculously low where you just need to be their type/niche.

[WhatTheFuck]

I took a long hiatus from Instagram after building up to some 2600 followers by the beginning of last year using Follow Liker inspired by Vinny's original guide.. I recently purged over half of my followers that were inactive and thinking about starting over again with automation. I bought an unlimited license at the end of 2016 that cost a shitload of money, hope I don't have any issues starting it back up again.

I was really into IG for about 6 months but it got boring after a while. I've grown to love the photography aspect tho and now I am taking more pictures than ever. I used to hate taking photos. Going traveling soon so I want to get my profile back up to speed.

[pancakemouse]

More data on Instagram that may be helpful: I've found no difference so far between following a girl and liking 3 of her photos vs. following a girl and liking 1 of her photos. My followback rate is around the same.

The conventional wisdom is that liking a bunch of photos will help "fill up" her feed and get her to notice you, but I haven't found that to be the case.

[Sidney Crosby]

A lot of the girls I've messaged haven't even viewed my DM after a week, they get so many fucking notifications.

About 50% of the girls that read my message responded (I'm not going to count the girls that were obviously in a relationship)

I was trying to find something out about the app, is there a way that I can hide my comments on other chicks IG"s to my followers?

[The Alpha Virgin]

I just got an account on instagram with no followers,posts etc.

But too often I notice that people have looked their account to private after I've been watching through their pictures etc.

It seems like they've seen someone has been stalking them and then they lock it? Is it possible and if so, is it that common for people to check who has been watching their profile?

[Sidney Crosby]

I'm not an Instagram expert but I don't think it's possible for someone to know who has viewed their profile or pictures unless you like a picture or comment. If you view one of those stories or whatever they call it then they can see who has viewed it.

[pancakemouse]

(01-06-2018 12:37 AM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

A lot of the girls I've messaged haven't even viewed my DM after a week, they get so many fucking notifications.

About 50% of the girls that read my message responded (I'm not going to count the girls that were obviously in a relationship)

I was trying to find something out about the app, is there a way that I can hide my comments on other chicks IG"s to my followers?

Were these girls that follow you, or random DMs that were going to their message request folder?

No, you can't hide your comments, however, why are you commenting on girls profiles? It goes down in the DM, you need to be keeping everything to DMs.

[Sidney Crosby]

Some of them followed me and some of them didn't.

I commented on a couple girls pictures and they always seem to notice by liking it, but if they aren't following me they usually don't even see the message.

It seems like usually even if I commented on a girls pictures and she has 500K followers, they read the comments and may click on your profile and decide whether they want to add you or not.

[pancakemouse]

(01-08-2018 09:53 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

Some of them followed me and some of them didn't.

I commented on a couple girls pictures and they always seem to notice by liking it, but if they aren't following me they usually don't even see the message.

It seems like usually even if I commented on a girls pictures and she has 500K followers, they read the comments and may click on your profile and decide whether they want to add you or not.

A lot of savvy girls like every single comment people leave them without clicking on the person's profile. It's a trick to keep their most engaged users happy with the dopamine to make sure they come back and keep engaging.

[Sidney Crosby]

^ That is true, I've started to notice that recently.

[rishboy77]

Just wanted to give a bunch of random observations since I now use Instagram heavily for my personal and business accounts...

1) It's hard to get really hot girls to follow you... it's nature of the beast.

Everybody wants followers but the least number of following.

2) Choose your niche carefully since unless your good looking....having a great profile but if you got no pictures of you that is pointless if your looking to game girls

3) I noticed a lot hot girls might post something inside the Instagram Stories if they are with a guy but rarely in a regular post unless it is steady boyfriend. Reminds of years a ago when I joined VK and saw there Slavic girls traveling all over the world but they were always pictured alone. Western girls are pretty much doing the same thing these days as they only post with their girl friends especially if they are looking to gain followers.

4) Switch to a business account if your looking to monetize the platform and you get better analytics. I have found now I have have 30K followers I get a lot of more attention then before and random messages from people.

5) Approach girls with lower or the same numbers of followers to collaborate... that has worked well for me to start a engagement group to post comments and meet up some potential targets.

6) Instagram is like day gaming in a sense... take a long term approach to be successful.

[rishboy77]

Just to follow up on post from the other day... Instagram Stories is great tool due the analytics... you can see exactly who saw it even if they are not following you (assuming you have a open public profile). Unlike a regular post in which you only see who liked it....this is like getting the details on the impressions.

Stories is important as you can see your regular viewers are and then target any potential single girls for communication. Interestingly I saw few girls I have had no contact in awhile but now knowing they are watching means maybe at some point later they might meet up again.

A hot 22 Ukrainian that I had talked to about 2 years ago but never banged recently started following me.... I'm sure the great profile and number of followers, comments, etc played a part in us reconnecting as we plan to meet now.

[DennisLang]

I would like to start working on an instagram presence for the purpose of game. I'm trying to start figuring out a strategy for this, here's where I stand:

- My goal is to get this account as useful as possible in the next four months. Suppose my content is travel pics - what's an amount of followers where I have more than most girls but not so much that it appears suspicious? 2-3k?
- I've created a new instagram account for this, the username does not feature my surname. For now, I don't plan to interact with anyone I actually know. Perhaps I could keep this identity difficult to link to my real name, Is there value in this?
- I have a bunch of travel photos going back to 2015.
How should I post them, some sort of schedule over the next 2-3 months?
I feel like it's going to look weird uploading that much travel content over such a short period of time, but does it matter?
I don't want to bother with captions on old content, will that be fine?
- I have very few (if any) decent pics of me and I'm also quite average looking. Does it matter? I take it I should limit the pictures I upload to the very best ones?
- I'm not going to have my friends or anyone I know commenting on my pictures, chances are it'll be just likes (if that). Will this look weird?
- What service should I use to acquire the followers? Is Instantical still considered the tool of choice? Vinny appears to be banned, what went down?

Any input towards any of the points would be great!

[bojangles]

I could never get the hang of follow liker, I bought it after vinny's initial thread, even though I had 10k+ followers by that time. I tried it for a few days and it didn't seem to work well (i probably did something shit in the settings).

Anyway rishboy, how did you change yours to a business account? I think I might get back on the followliker wagon and start to push my instagram more in 2 particular cities as I plan to open a business in one of them.

[BlastbeatCasanova]

Two of the baddest bitches I ever banged were from IG. Here's what worked for me:
-high quality pictures of you doing cool/fun shit. Pics with hot girls optional.
-cheeky/funny captions on the pics. Honestly I feel like this is as crucial if not more so than cool pictures.
-know your target demographic (ex. I play music, so I do well with artsy/hipster girls)
-have tight text game
-be patient with DM'ing and make sure once your target follows you, you are still posting cool pics, posting on your story of you doing fun stuff, etc.

[BlastbeatCasanova]

Two of the baddest bitches I ever banged were from IG. Here's what worked for me:
-high quality pictures of you doing cool/fun shit. Pics with hot girls optional.
-cheeky/funny captions on the pics. Honestly I feel like this is as crucial if not more so than cool pictures.
-know your target demographic (ex. I play music, so I do well with artsy/hipster girls)
-have tight text game
-be patient with DM'ing and make sure once your target follows you, you are still posting cool pics, posting on your story of you doing fun stuff, etc.

[IntrovertSigma]

(02-01-2018 08:49 AM)DennisLang Wrote:  

I would like to start working on an instagram presence for the purpose of game. I'm trying to start figuring out a strategy for this, here's where I stand:

- My goal is to get this account as useful as possible in the next four months. Suppose my content is travel pics - what's an amount of followers where I have more than most girls but not so much that it appears suspicious? 2-3k?
- I've created a new instagram account for this, the username does not feature my surname. For now, I don't plan to interact with anyone I actually know. Perhaps I could keep this identity difficult to link to my real name, Is there value in this?
- I have a bunch of travel photos going back to 2015.
How should I post them, some sort of schedule over the next 2-3 months?
I feel like it's going to look weird uploading that much travel content over such a short period of time, but does it matter?
I don't want to bother with captions on old content, will that be fine?
- I have very few (if any) decent pics of me and I'm also quite average looking. Does it matter? I take it I should limit the pictures I upload to the very best ones?
- I'm not going to have my friends or anyone I know commenting on my pictures, chances are it'll be just likes (if that). Will this look weird?
- What service should I use to acquire the followers? Is Instantical still considered the tool of choice? Vinny appears to be banned, what went down?

Any input towards any of the points would be great!

I'm currently at just over 2k followers and by using a follow liker, about 5 - 600 are natural followers. For me I believe this is the limit for what still looks natural.

My profile is the real me, not hiding anything or misrepresenting myself in any way.

If I were you I'd post 10 of the best all at once, then schedule at least one a week.

Decide on a main focus or niche for your profile. Then have 2/3rds of the photos reflect that niche. The rest can be more day to day life stuff.

From what I can see quality is more important than quantity.

[IntrovertSigma]

(02-01-2018 04:50 PM)BlastbeatCasanova Wrote:  

Two of the baddest bitches I ever banged were from IG. Here's what worked for me:
-high quality pictures of you doing cool/fun shit. Pics with hot girls optional.
-cheeky/funny captions on the pics. Honestly I feel like this is as crucial if not more so than cool pictures.
-know your target demographic (ex. I play music, so I do well with artsy/hipster girls)
-have tight text game
-be patient with DM'ing and make sure once your target follows you, you are still posting cool pics, posting on your story of you doing fun stuff, etc.

What do you mean by cheeky/funny captions?

When you DM is it specifically with the aim to hang out or to get them to check out your music or to watch you perform?

[pancakemouse]

(02-01-2018 08:49 AM)DennisLang Wrote:  

I would like to start working on an instagram presence for the purpose of game. I'm trying to start figuring out a strategy for this, here's where I stand:

- My goal is to get this account as useful as possible in the next four months. Suppose my content is travel pics - what's an amount of followers where I have more than most girls but not so much that it appears suspicious? 2-3k?
- I've created a new instagram account for this, the username does not feature my surname. For now, I don't plan to interact with anyone I actually know. Perhaps I could keep this identity difficult to link to my real name, Is there value in this?
- I have a bunch of travel photos going back to 2015.
How should I post them, some sort of schedule over the next 2-3 months?
I feel like it's going to look weird uploading that much travel content over such a short period of time, but does it matter?
I don't want to bother with captions on old content, will that be fine?
- I have very few (if any) decent pics of me and I'm also quite average looking. Does it matter? I take it I should limit the pictures I upload to the very best ones?
- I'm not going to have my friends or anyone I know commenting on my pictures, chances are it'll be just likes (if that). Will this look weird?
- What service should I use to acquire the followers? Is Instantical still considered the tool of choice? Vinny appears to be banned, what went down?

Any input towards any of the points would be great!

2-3K is fine, 10K is better.

Keeping the account secret from your real friends is best. You should use it for Game only.

All of your content should have captions.

You should upload one image every few days, and be running Followliker or a similar service to make sure you are getting likebacks on your images so you have good engagement.

You *need* to have photos of you, even if you aren't good-looking. You are using this to fuck girls, not entertain them with travel photos.

If you don't have good photos, take some of you looking as good as possible in cool locations.

[IntrovertSigma]

Why do you think you should keep this account secret from real friends?

What is the benefit of doing this?

[pancakemouse]

(02-03-2018 08:05 AM)IntrovertSigma Wrote:  

Why do you think you should keep this account secret from real friends?

What is the benefit of doing this?

Depends on your relationship with your real friends and what social circles you run in. My friends cock an eyebrow up at my decidedly extra Instagram presence.

Were I to do it again, I would keep it separate.

[Revolutionary]

Can someone briefly explain to me what happened to FollowLiker? I bought this program in February 2017 and it worked. Roughly in November 2017, it ceased to work. There was an error message. My impression was that the proprietor changed the price model, and now wants additional money. Is that correct?

[Stakes Is High]

you are grandfathered in. you license still works for no additional monthly cost. i would advise you reinstall the app, should work fine. ive had to reinstall 2x now.

[IntrovertSigma]

Does anyone have experiences they can share with combining Tinder and Instagram. I'm unsure about how to present myself on Tinder to best reach my goals.

My main goal currently is to grow my social circle and social proof / pre-selection and not necessarily to go for the hookups straight away. I want to create an ecosystem.

In the past I've experimented with a purely 'looking for friends' profile but that got me very few matches. There has to be some kind of date / hookup / relationship angle otherwise not enough women will bite. I'm actually trying to perform a bait and switch, but the opposite of how most guys do it.

This might seem very convoluted but the reason is that my lifestyle has the potential to be propelled forward massively with social proof. But I need to push things along myself for a while before it hopefully gathers natural momentum.

I'm on about 3k Instagram followers right now which seems to be having an effect but I think is about the limit of what looks normal for my current status.

Does this question make sense?