[shadowfight89]

(12-15-2017 07:30 AM)not_dead_yet Wrote:  

Strikes me as a blue pill religious type, like a Mormon or big church evangelical. Would probably do very well in a community of like-minded types, enjoying professional and personal success, but probably never reaching the apex because of a lack of ruthlessness. Probably wouldn't mind taking the silver medal in life, instead of the gold.

I read this an was rather confused. What part of being religious means you can't be ruthless.. Beyond that, ruthlessness is not absolutely needed to be successful. The willingness to sacrifice everything else is what decides this.. and talent of course.

[Easy_C]

Yeah....it wouldn't be some loser religious nut. That's how you're programmed to think of Christians.


It would probably be like the ones in this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ro...nd_martyrs

[Graft]

It really depends on talent, work ethic, and value.

If I create the next app or software that gets bought for billions, I probably don't need to be a Dark Triad. I can be kind, giving, compassionate, humble, only because I have the value to back it up.

If you're just a pussy working a rank-and-file job, then being a "light triad" would make your life pretty average. Same with being a Dark Triad, most end up in jail.

I doubt athletes like Derek Jeter and Lebron James are "Dark Triad." They don't need to be-they have so much value that they can pretty much do whatever they want and not have it affect them

Most TRP Machiavellian dorks never even get close to the top of anything because instead of creating value, they slink in the shadows, screw you on rent money or steal one of your bitches, then log onto TRP to brag about what a badass ruthless psychopath they are.

The narcissism is the most important trait of the Dark Triad, because that's what gets you obsessed about your own value. If you focus your narcissism on being the richest, best looking, most popular, highest social status male possible, then you'll see the nerdy "Dark Triad" types taking cheap shots behind the backs of yourself and guys with actual value.

[Aurini]

I'll reiterate my post from last year with fewer words.

Dark Triad:
Narcissism
Machiavellianism
Psychopathy

Light Triad:
Glory
Strategy
Honour

[ThriceLazarus]

This is something that’s been bothering me for a while as well, I’m thankful that I’m not the only one.

It seems that the issue is, “Adopting relative degrees of the characteristics of narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy is necessary in navigating the modern sexual market place.”

Feels bad, man. I’ve been lurking long enough to have seen this wisdom delivered, enacted, and suceed again and again. The trouble is that Player’s dilemma, namely becoming jaded and sub-consciously self destructive. Nietzchean - staring into the abyss.

So, how does one avoid being swallowed by darkness? As Strikeback explained, perhaps it is possible to be a good man who’s good at being a man in this day and age. If, and this is just postulation, the Dark Triad is a necessary secret to sucess it must be incorporated or synthesized into one’s personality, as Aurini pointed toward, or ‘purified’ as Maistre put it. That’s a start...

As I’m just beginning this journey I’m looking for the ‘right’ headwind, something that sits well with the soul, you know?

So, perhaps narcissism tempered by hard, good work transforms into a kind of self-actualization. Sort of hinting at that mystical idea of the Self (the super ego/saintly persona) - which is selfless in a way. So self-satisfied that it manifests that coveted abundance mentality (as that concept is thrown my way again and again).

If the Self becomes anti-fragile and abundant, then the Machiavellianism is transformed into benevolence - scheming to do good. To fall on deaf ears yet be understood, or leading a horse to water and getting it to drink. Like cartoonish reverse psychology.

As far as psychopathy goes, it seems required in a way. A quick example, many of these girls play the martyr, having been dabbling with dating for the last year or so they all have a sob story that they cling to - their own perfectly manicured, petty little drama. If I can be honest, I’ve been guilty of the same. To play into that story is a mess, you have to shoot down your empathy before it sets you SIMPing. I know Jordan Peterson is a bit played out here, yet I’m reminded of his take on being ‘meek’ - having a sword and knowing how to use it but keep it sheathed.

Thanks for the thoughts. I’m still getting through Game and haven’t yet started the Roosh challenge (So this is all just pussing footing) yet this gives me a little hope.

I suppose it’s summed up with that old maxim, “Always leave a girl better than you found her.”

[nek]

whether you want to be light or dark, just be a man. The rest is semantics.

[66Scorpio]

90% of men like that would be eaten alive. The other 10% might find a woman who reciprocates.