I thought that I would try to give something back to the guys who has yet to travel the world and experience foreign women.
Short on my background: Late 20s white Norwegian. Been to 35 countries and dated girls from many different countries and cultures.
This is my subjective thoughts, and sure not everyone will agree on everything.
Unfortunately I have no intel on african girls.
Datasheet objective: Reflect around pros and cons regarding having a long term relationship with girls from different parts of the world.
I hope that this can work as guidebook for beginners.
White western girls
Pros
+ Your parents probably prefer if you date a girl from the same culture
+Financially independent, doesn’t expect the man to pay for everything
+Often good humor
+Often able to discuss more complicated matters and reading news
+Often a more stabile mood and less crazy behavior than EE and Latin girls. Less drama
+High sexual appetite. Actually a lot better than girls in Eastern Europe that seems more comfortable in having less sex in general.
+Very young girls (20>) are extremely attractive in Norway, but a saddening amount of them are declining in looks quickly after finishing high school.
Cons
-Sexual marked is extremely unfavorable towards men. Meaning: Its difficult for a man to lock down a girl with the same level of looks, due to inflated egos and extremely thirsty guys in the west. For a 7 man it requires game to lock down a 7 girl. Nothing is for free. In online game, most normal/semi-good looking guys date 1-1,5 point lower than their own value. For 8+ guys, its easy.
- White girls are aging horribly. 80% of girls are past their prime after turning 25.
-They are scared to death to show any form of interest or affection during the dating period. They treat you like shit, compared to EE girls who send 5 smileys in every message and writing that they miss you, like you and so on.
-They gain weight faster than any other races, and the media is profiling obesity as something honorable
-80% of white western girls identify with the left in political context.
-Gets easily offended by fat shaming, anti-immigration opinions and general non political correct behavior.
-No cultural pressure to remain sexy, thin and pleasant. Western society encourages/applauding moral and physical decline.
-Not interested in pleasing the man (By that I don’t mean pleasing as a slave, I mean dressing nice, making food, helping out like girls from Eastern Europe)
-Job and “doing what she wants” is life nr.1 priority. Not being feminine and finding a good man to start a family.
-They usually want relationships from age 26, when they have gained 5-10 kg since their glory days
-Very few, maybe 10% of female western population is bang-able after turning 40 years of age.
-Even fat and ugly girls below 6.0 believe that they are entitled to high value men with good looks and careers.
Summary:
White western girls is great for a man who is comfortable to date a “average looking” girl with a bearable personality. If the man is blue-pill and doesn’t know about other options, it might be possible to stay happily married.
Very hard to date 7,5s+ for normal guys, unless high status or serious money.
For guys how have dated mind-blowing EE girls with conservative values, its very difficult to engage in a LTR with a Western 6 with horrible values.
All guys I know who is in a LTR with a high value girls, are guys who has been dating the same girls from age 16 until now.
The most negative fact regarding dating western girls, is the lack of will of being their best self combined with the tendency for men of having to date down.
Sometimes I believe that discovering EE girls and the “greener pastures” made my life more frustrating, since life inn EE is more rewarding in terms of girls and dating.
Solution
1.Work hard and get the financials to be able to travel and maybe one day import a girl from EE for starting a family.
Or get the financial powers to have a lifestyle high value girls want to experience.
2.Develop your game so that you are able to pull 7,5-8s on a regular basis. A problem though is that a hot 8, in most cases are going to have the same horrible values as a slobby 5 in terms of life goals and political correctness. She will just be more spoiled by all the attention.
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Eastern European girls (PL,RU,UA, HU, BR,Baltics,CZ)
Pros
+ Girls are way more direct. If they like you they say so, if they don´t, they say so
+No politically correctness. Girls are not hiding the fact that they look down on other girls who has less value and have political incorrect opinions. They say stuff that blows your mind and could never be said in the west, without people getting offended.
+ Girls take pride in taking care of their appearance. Very few girls weight over 60kg and they also look good after getting kids and passing 40.
In RU,UA and PL the “average” girl is a 6,5-7.0 and highly bangable. In the west, the average girl is a 4,5.-5.5.
+Girls are looking for a kind and good man, while western girls is looking for a standup comedian or a guy who is loud/high social status. The “strong beta game” works great in EE, while gentleman behavior is looked down upon in the west.
+Girls are nationalistic and proud of their country and traditions. I have never heard a Norwegian girl say “Im proud of my country”.
+During LTR, EE girls don’t look at other men at all. I will dare to say that they cheat less than western girls, partly due to their upbringing and family values.
+In LTR EE girls rudely reject players who try to get their number ect, while western girls are flattered that they “got options” and might give away their number to a daygamer, even though they not have any intention of cheating. This is highly disrespectful towards their man.
+They have a lower notch count. Most mid 20s EE girls has slept with less than 10 guys in their entire life. Many western girls has banged 50+ guys when they are at that age. This is important from a moral perspective and from a medical one.
+Girls are more submissive and want the man to be the “leader” of the family/relationship. This does absolutely not mean that she does not have her own strong opinions.
+EE girls are trying to match up your friends with her sexy girlfriends. I find western girls to be very lazy in this matter, and if they try to set you up, its with her disgusting friend who has been single for 8 years and counting. In other words, no reward.
Cons
-Your family might not approve that you´re getting a sexy EE GF, since they never been to EE and they buy in to the whole golddigger/men with foreign wifes are losers stereotype.
-People in the west tend to look down on EE girls, but only a very weak man would care about that (and he would never land quality EE girls to begin with)
-EE girls has a much lower sexdrive than western girls. Especially Russian and UA girls consider sex a duty for their man and not something that they necessary enjoy to the same extinct. This can change after you “train her”, but expect them to be less experienced and less “hungry” than western girls.
-At some point either you or her has to learn the others native language, and Slavic languages are fucking hard.
-They expect to receive more gifts than western girls, and the man has to take a higher percentage of the household cost.
-Coming from a poor part of the world, they are likely to have only 25% of the buying power as you have, which leads to more expenses for you.
-EE girls are more dramatic and tend to have strong mood swings. They are not afraid for going face to face with you if they are in the right state of mind
-They tend to value their parents advice very heavily on big life decisions.
- Logistical horror connected with “importing” a girl. Best thing is to find an EE girl who has recently arrived in your country, but not stayed long enough to get westernized.
Summary:
There is nothing better in the world for true red-pill men. They are more beautiful, sweeter, have better values and are more grateful than western girls. When that is said, they are very demanding and they see though your bullshit fast, if you’re not truly committed.
The average girls has a lower sexual appetite than western girls, so for men with very high sexdrive, a less feminine girl with a higher sexdrive (western girl) might be a better option.
EE girls is definitely not something for the average western beta or the natural prettyboy who might have huge success in the west mostly due to his height/looks. EE girls tend to value qualities as intellect, character, stabile income and manners.
They are less focused on appearance or social status than girls in the west.
Its difficult to get these kind of girls as fuckfriends, since they are more relationship oriented.
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Asian girls
Sidenote: There are huge differences between Asian girls. My experience has been with South Korean, Thai and Filipino girls.
This sheet is more focused on girls from South East Asia.
Pros
+Asian girls are good hearted. I´ve never met a mean Asian girl.
+They are very easy to bang (for whites)
+They are usually petite
+They have traditional values and are happy to take on “the female jobs” in the household
+ I would assume that they are good mothers and always present when raising the kid. The west is promoting single motherhood as something honorable, while its in reality is a result of bad judgment.
+They look for security and can be a great option for nice guys who wants to date up.
+Asians age extremely well and a sexy Thai girl can look 37 even though she is past 50 years old.
+In terms of sex, they are though the importance of pleasing the man from an early age. They rarely say “no” and are putting in a lot of effort in the bed. This goes for SEA girls, not China/Japan.
Cons
-Most Asian girls are very simple minded and has very little knowledge about the world. This is not their fault, but the traditional Asian societies that encourages girls to be obedient and only care about being sweet and taking care of the household. I believe this is more present with the poor Asian countries, not South Korea or Japan.
If you are an intellectual man, you will find it difficult to date south east asian girls.
-They are extremely needy and have a naturally bad confidence. They are the betas of the female population around the world.
-They hide their emotions and can be difficult to read
-White men dating Asians are seen down upon by society, both in Europe and in Asia
Summary
Asians are the go to girls for the western beta male. They are not challenging like EE girls, yet they have better values and tend to be better wifes than western girls.
Also they are still very bangable after turning 40, which is something to appreciate!
If you are comfortable not having the deepest conversations and seek security and comfort, an Asian girl would be the best choice.
For men who wants a challenge, there are clearly better options out there.
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Latinas, with the main focus on Brazilian girls
Pros
+Latinas are the most sexual girls in the world
+Most girls are very good in bed and has a huge sexual appetite
+They are likely to dance and sing for you. Almost every girl knows how do shake her ass and appear sexy on the dance floor.
+They are more feminine than western girls and put effort in maintaining their appearance.
+They are social and fun to be around. Not introverted like Asians.
+They are also more likely to set up your friends with her sexy girlfriends, not the bottom of the barrel as the western girls offer.
+They take a lot more initiative when it comes to romance than other girls. It´s very comfortable for a man to not always have to be the aggressive part.
Girls might approach you in a night game setting, which is very unusual in the west, unless you are in the top 5% in looks.
+Less than EE girls, but they still have family values and are looking for relationships rather than riding the cock carousel until their in their late 20s.
Cons
-Latinas are extremely jealous and crazy as shit
-They are probably sluttier than girls from other places, so be aware that you were far from the first guy (if low notch count is important to you). A 30 year old Brazilian girl who has been single for a while, has probably kissed a thousand guys.
-They tend to get a bit fat after turning 30, but South American girls with some extra kilos can still be sexy! They are fat in a sensual way, not looking like huge closets or barrels like girls in the west.
-Heavy mood swings, can be difficult to live with long term.
-They talk with their mom on the phone all the time, in general they talk a lot. Can be exhausting to listen to at times.
Summary
Dealing with latinas requires a man with strength and persistence. This is no beta territory. The reward is high with the sexy behavior, but also complicated with the constant moods swings and craziness. Latinas have a lot in common with EE girls, both when it comes to mood swings, femininity and motivation for pleasing their man.
Latinas is a rare commodity in Western Europe, so if you are able to catch one make sure to lock her down.
Short on my background: Late 20s white Norwegian. Been to 35 countries and dated girls from many different countries and cultures.
This is my subjective thoughts, and sure not everyone will agree on everything.
Unfortunately I have no intel on african girls.
Datasheet objective: Reflect around pros and cons regarding having a long term relationship with girls from different parts of the world.
I hope that this can work as guidebook for beginners.
White western girls
Pros
+ Your parents probably prefer if you date a girl from the same culture
+Financially independent, doesn’t expect the man to pay for everything
+Often good humor
+Often able to discuss more complicated matters and reading news
+Often a more stabile mood and less crazy behavior than EE and Latin girls. Less drama
+High sexual appetite. Actually a lot better than girls in Eastern Europe that seems more comfortable in having less sex in general.
+Very young girls (20>) are extremely attractive in Norway, but a saddening amount of them are declining in looks quickly after finishing high school.
Cons
-Sexual marked is extremely unfavorable towards men. Meaning: Its difficult for a man to lock down a girl with the same level of looks, due to inflated egos and extremely thirsty guys in the west. For a 7 man it requires game to lock down a 7 girl. Nothing is for free. In online game, most normal/semi-good looking guys date 1-1,5 point lower than their own value. For 8+ guys, its easy.
- White girls are aging horribly. 80% of girls are past their prime after turning 25.
-They are scared to death to show any form of interest or affection during the dating period. They treat you like shit, compared to EE girls who send 5 smileys in every message and writing that they miss you, like you and so on.
-They gain weight faster than any other races, and the media is profiling obesity as something honorable
-80% of white western girls identify with the left in political context.
-Gets easily offended by fat shaming, anti-immigration opinions and general non political correct behavior.
-No cultural pressure to remain sexy, thin and pleasant. Western society encourages/applauding moral and physical decline.
-Not interested in pleasing the man (By that I don’t mean pleasing as a slave, I mean dressing nice, making food, helping out like girls from Eastern Europe)
-Job and “doing what she wants” is life nr.1 priority. Not being feminine and finding a good man to start a family.
-They usually want relationships from age 26, when they have gained 5-10 kg since their glory days
-Very few, maybe 10% of female western population is bang-able after turning 40 years of age.
-Even fat and ugly girls below 6.0 believe that they are entitled to high value men with good looks and careers.
Summary:
White western girls is great for a man who is comfortable to date a “average looking” girl with a bearable personality. If the man is blue-pill and doesn’t know about other options, it might be possible to stay happily married.
Very hard to date 7,5s+ for normal guys, unless high status or serious money.
For guys how have dated mind-blowing EE girls with conservative values, its very difficult to engage in a LTR with a Western 6 with horrible values.
All guys I know who is in a LTR with a high value girls, are guys who has been dating the same girls from age 16 until now.
The most negative fact regarding dating western girls, is the lack of will of being their best self combined with the tendency for men of having to date down.
Sometimes I believe that discovering EE girls and the “greener pastures” made my life more frustrating, since life inn EE is more rewarding in terms of girls and dating.
Solution
1.Work hard and get the financials to be able to travel and maybe one day import a girl from EE for starting a family.
Or get the financial powers to have a lifestyle high value girls want to experience.
2.Develop your game so that you are able to pull 7,5-8s on a regular basis. A problem though is that a hot 8, in most cases are going to have the same horrible values as a slobby 5 in terms of life goals and political correctness. She will just be more spoiled by all the attention.
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Eastern European girls (PL,RU,UA, HU, BR,Baltics,CZ)
Pros
+ Girls are way more direct. If they like you they say so, if they don´t, they say so
+No politically correctness. Girls are not hiding the fact that they look down on other girls who has less value and have political incorrect opinions. They say stuff that blows your mind and could never be said in the west, without people getting offended.
+ Girls take pride in taking care of their appearance. Very few girls weight over 60kg and they also look good after getting kids and passing 40.
In RU,UA and PL the “average” girl is a 6,5-7.0 and highly bangable. In the west, the average girl is a 4,5.-5.5.
+Girls are looking for a kind and good man, while western girls is looking for a standup comedian or a guy who is loud/high social status. The “strong beta game” works great in EE, while gentleman behavior is looked down upon in the west.
+Girls are nationalistic and proud of their country and traditions. I have never heard a Norwegian girl say “Im proud of my country”.
+During LTR, EE girls don’t look at other men at all. I will dare to say that they cheat less than western girls, partly due to their upbringing and family values.
+In LTR EE girls rudely reject players who try to get their number ect, while western girls are flattered that they “got options” and might give away their number to a daygamer, even though they not have any intention of cheating. This is highly disrespectful towards their man.
+They have a lower notch count. Most mid 20s EE girls has slept with less than 10 guys in their entire life. Many western girls has banged 50+ guys when they are at that age. This is important from a moral perspective and from a medical one.
+Girls are more submissive and want the man to be the “leader” of the family/relationship. This does absolutely not mean that she does not have her own strong opinions.
+EE girls are trying to match up your friends with her sexy girlfriends. I find western girls to be very lazy in this matter, and if they try to set you up, its with her disgusting friend who has been single for 8 years and counting. In other words, no reward.
Cons
-Your family might not approve that you´re getting a sexy EE GF, since they never been to EE and they buy in to the whole golddigger/men with foreign wifes are losers stereotype.
-People in the west tend to look down on EE girls, but only a very weak man would care about that (and he would never land quality EE girls to begin with)
-EE girls has a much lower sexdrive than western girls. Especially Russian and UA girls consider sex a duty for their man and not something that they necessary enjoy to the same extinct. This can change after you “train her”, but expect them to be less experienced and less “hungry” than western girls.
-At some point either you or her has to learn the others native language, and Slavic languages are fucking hard.
-They expect to receive more gifts than western girls, and the man has to take a higher percentage of the household cost.
-Coming from a poor part of the world, they are likely to have only 25% of the buying power as you have, which leads to more expenses for you.
-EE girls are more dramatic and tend to have strong mood swings. They are not afraid for going face to face with you if they are in the right state of mind
-They tend to value their parents advice very heavily on big life decisions.
- Logistical horror connected with “importing” a girl. Best thing is to find an EE girl who has recently arrived in your country, but not stayed long enough to get westernized.
Summary:
There is nothing better in the world for true red-pill men. They are more beautiful, sweeter, have better values and are more grateful than western girls. When that is said, they are very demanding and they see though your bullshit fast, if you’re not truly committed.
The average girls has a lower sexual appetite than western girls, so for men with very high sexdrive, a less feminine girl with a higher sexdrive (western girl) might be a better option.
EE girls is definitely not something for the average western beta or the natural prettyboy who might have huge success in the west mostly due to his height/looks. EE girls tend to value qualities as intellect, character, stabile income and manners.
They are less focused on appearance or social status than girls in the west.
Its difficult to get these kind of girls as fuckfriends, since they are more relationship oriented.
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Asian girls
Sidenote: There are huge differences between Asian girls. My experience has been with South Korean, Thai and Filipino girls.
This sheet is more focused on girls from South East Asia.
Pros
+Asian girls are good hearted. I´ve never met a mean Asian girl.
+They are very easy to bang (for whites)
+They are usually petite
+They have traditional values and are happy to take on “the female jobs” in the household
+ I would assume that they are good mothers and always present when raising the kid. The west is promoting single motherhood as something honorable, while its in reality is a result of bad judgment.
+They look for security and can be a great option for nice guys who wants to date up.
+Asians age extremely well and a sexy Thai girl can look 37 even though she is past 50 years old.
+In terms of sex, they are though the importance of pleasing the man from an early age. They rarely say “no” and are putting in a lot of effort in the bed. This goes for SEA girls, not China/Japan.
Cons
-Most Asian girls are very simple minded and has very little knowledge about the world. This is not their fault, but the traditional Asian societies that encourages girls to be obedient and only care about being sweet and taking care of the household. I believe this is more present with the poor Asian countries, not South Korea or Japan.
If you are an intellectual man, you will find it difficult to date south east asian girls.
-They are extremely needy and have a naturally bad confidence. They are the betas of the female population around the world.
-They hide their emotions and can be difficult to read
-White men dating Asians are seen down upon by society, both in Europe and in Asia
Summary
Asians are the go to girls for the western beta male. They are not challenging like EE girls, yet they have better values and tend to be better wifes than western girls.
Also they are still very bangable after turning 40, which is something to appreciate!
If you are comfortable not having the deepest conversations and seek security and comfort, an Asian girl would be the best choice.
For men who wants a challenge, there are clearly better options out there.
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Latinas, with the main focus on Brazilian girls
Pros
+Latinas are the most sexual girls in the world
+Most girls are very good in bed and has a huge sexual appetite
+They are likely to dance and sing for you. Almost every girl knows how do shake her ass and appear sexy on the dance floor.
+They are more feminine than western girls and put effort in maintaining their appearance.
+They are social and fun to be around. Not introverted like Asians.
+They are also more likely to set up your friends with her sexy girlfriends, not the bottom of the barrel as the western girls offer.
+They take a lot more initiative when it comes to romance than other girls. It´s very comfortable for a man to not always have to be the aggressive part.
Girls might approach you in a night game setting, which is very unusual in the west, unless you are in the top 5% in looks.
+Less than EE girls, but they still have family values and are looking for relationships rather than riding the cock carousel until their in their late 20s.
Cons
-Latinas are extremely jealous and crazy as shit
-They are probably sluttier than girls from other places, so be aware that you were far from the first guy (if low notch count is important to you). A 30 year old Brazilian girl who has been single for a while, has probably kissed a thousand guys.
-They tend to get a bit fat after turning 30, but South American girls with some extra kilos can still be sexy! They are fat in a sensual way, not looking like huge closets or barrels like girls in the west.
-Heavy mood swings, can be difficult to live with long term.
-They talk with their mom on the phone all the time, in general they talk a lot. Can be exhausting to listen to at times.
Summary
Dealing with latinas requires a man with strength and persistence. This is no beta territory. The reward is high with the sexy behavior, but also complicated with the constant moods swings and craziness. Latinas have a lot in common with EE girls, both when it comes to mood swings, femininity and motivation for pleasing their man.
Latinas is a rare commodity in Western Europe, so if you are able to catch one make sure to lock her down.