Quote: (11-18-2017 12:23 PM)questor70 Wrote:
Not sure anyone wants to get into a protracted debate on this when it's really about Musk's alpha/beta frame, but thermodynamic / entropy is a lot more complicated than you think.
There's a lot of controversy over the effective EROEI of fossil fuels, especially considering that we're at a point where much of it is coming from increasingly difficult sources like ultra-deep water, tar-sands, shale, and requires a lot of refinement and ultimate delivery to the point of use. While gas is still cheap at the pump, the average EROEI of fossil fuels is getting progressively worse as we've already consumed most of the low-hanging-fruit. Since oil is a non-renewable resource, this situation is NOT solvable. Innovation in the oil sector does help in the short term (hence the shale boom) but it only kicks the can down the road.
Renewables may be intermittent (hence the need for battery storage) but they are the only reliable long-term energy source outside of pie-in-the-sky plans for next-gen nukes or fusion.
We're currently reaping the benfits of the can having been kicked but there are a lot of articles trying to determine how much time that's bought us and what the consequences are when it runs out. Some suggest we only have a few years before we wind up roughly where we were in the fall of 2008 with oil at $147/bbl. The best time to hedge bets on this and shift to EVs is now, not when we're panicking with $4+ prices at the pump and tens of millions of newly sold gas guzzlers on the road.
But let's just say women aren't the only ones who have difficulty with long-term planning.
Questor as an inveterate blue piller on many subjects, you might have a hard time accepting that many of the basic cultural and scientific precepts we've been spoon-fed all our lives through academia, the media and popular culture are in fact manufactured propaganda.
So you might have a hard time wrapping yourself around the idea that oil is a plentiful, replenishable and abiotic natural compound. It's not dinosaur juice, the concept of "fossil fuel" was a propaganda ploy by Rockefeller over a century ago in order to assign a false sense of scarcity to a plentiful resource, and to artificially pump up its price. Oil is a natural compound which is created deep in the earth crust, it is the most plentiful liquid on the planet, after water.
There were no dinosaurs, or plant life, ever, on Saturn's moon Titan, yet that place is awash in oil and hydrocarbons, so much for "fossil fuels":
https://www.space.com/4968-titan-oil-earth.html
There's enough hydrocarbons left to power the planet for centuries, unless you believe in that even bigger scam of anthopogenic global warming. When you understand the former, the latter makes sense, because they have to build artificial limits into oil, gas and coal in order to milk the world economy and control people.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-Gener...elves.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/09/26/scienc...rally.html
This Corbett video is a great introduction to the cultural and economic history of oil and the American globalist oligarchy, one of the most important documentaries on YT:
“Nothing is more useful than to look upon the world as it really is.”