At 5:45 even a regular white American guy got his ass beat:
Hate in Russia
They are saying the Russians could be mistaking him for being a Muslim immigrant. I don't think this would've happened to him if he was blonde and had blue eyes.
He looks like a regular white guy to you, but to them he would look like someone from the Stans or Georgia. They view those people in much the same way a lot of people view illegal immigrants and they believe that they are responsible for a lot of the crimes against Russians. Women file a lot of rape claims against those groups too. Then there is the almost slave wage they work for, taking work away from Russians.
So there is a lot of anger there, and they deal with it their way.
There was no civil rights movement there bud. They went from peasants in a monarchy to peasants under a communist regime. What you see as racism, they see as patriotism. Russia is for Russians they believe, and its just a fact of life for the place.
Brazil is dangerous too. So is Colombia. So is South Africa. So is Vietnam. One of the luxuries of the places that most of us live in is that they are really safe.
I will say though that if you are black, its best to stay with tour groups. So that cuts out a lot of the brothers here. You would probably be ok, but its a different place and higher risk, so you would need to be very careful.
So there is a lot of anger there, and they deal with it their way.
There was no civil rights movement there bud. They went from peasants in a monarchy to peasants under a communist regime. What you see as racism, they see as patriotism. Russia is for Russians they believe, and its just a fact of life for the place.
Brazil is dangerous too. So is Colombia. So is South Africa. So is Vietnam. One of the luxuries of the places that most of us live in is that they are really safe.
I will say though that if you are black, its best to stay with tour groups. So that cuts out a lot of the brothers here. You would probably be ok, but its a different place and higher risk, so you would need to be very careful.
Quote: (09-13-2011 04:33 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:
Brazil is dangerous too. So is Colombia. So is South Africa. So is Vietnam. One of the luxuries of the places that most of us live in is that they are really safe.
While true, something about Russia's brand of danger seems particularly heinous. The reporter said after that Azerbaijan man stabbed to death that such attacks illicit sympathy amongst most the people. That blew me away. While you may be mugged for your money in Brazil or Colombia, the population at large doesn't side with the mugger. In Russia there seems to be little ideological distinction between the extremists and normal people. That's what makes Russia such a bizarre country to me...if what that reporter is saying is true.
What I don't understand is why ANY non-white would willingly move there, although it seems to be working out for at least one black dude: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/25...58697.html
Its a different place dude and its a different culture completely. Again, you need to understand that they have had as hard a time of it as anyone and there was no civil rights movement there. Also, the media does sensationalise these things and the statistics sound bad because you are not really used to those sorts of numbers either.
Genocide Watch, for example, just raised their warning levels to a 7 in South Africa. White farmers who have lived there for over 300 years are being murdered in droves now and its clearly hate crimes. You wont see many stories on that though, and the last story CNN was when a white supremacist farmer was killed. The governing political party has their youth leader singing a song called "Shoot the Farmer" and it sees very little international main stream press. So you even have senior politicians encouraging the behaviour.
Does that mean that whites cant live in South Africa? Of course not, there are almost 3.5 million there. Its white population alone is larger than the whole of NZ.
Russians are very nationalistic. They are also not going to handle things the way a more liberal west would. Russians hit first and ask questions later, and the rise in xenaphobia has a lot to do with the crime waves and social problems a lot of the immigrants brought. They deal with their problems their way, and while its heinous to you, appreciate the fact that their culture and people as a whole have been around and developed for over 1000 years now.
The civil rights movement is not even 70 years old yet in the west. Russia only had its "French Revolution" after the first world war.
Genocide Watch, for example, just raised their warning levels to a 7 in South Africa. White farmers who have lived there for over 300 years are being murdered in droves now and its clearly hate crimes. You wont see many stories on that though, and the last story CNN was when a white supremacist farmer was killed. The governing political party has their youth leader singing a song called "Shoot the Farmer" and it sees very little international main stream press. So you even have senior politicians encouraging the behaviour.
Does that mean that whites cant live in South Africa? Of course not, there are almost 3.5 million there. Its white population alone is larger than the whole of NZ.
Russians are very nationalistic. They are also not going to handle things the way a more liberal west would. Russians hit first and ask questions later, and the rise in xenaphobia has a lot to do with the crime waves and social problems a lot of the immigrants brought. They deal with their problems their way, and while its heinous to you, appreciate the fact that their culture and people as a whole have been around and developed for over 1000 years now.
The civil rights movement is not even 70 years old yet in the west. Russia only had its "French Revolution" after the first world war.
Quote: (09-13-2011 10:31 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:
Its a different place dude and its a different culture completely. Again, you need to understand that they have had as hard a time of it as anyone and there was no civil rights movement there.
Per the melon man murder, it seems like Westerners may sympathize with a cause, but have a very strong idea of a good and bad way to promote it, while Russians are more fatalistic, and are content to take the good with the bad.
The situation is atrocious, and the killings are evil of course. But this immigration was ultimately forced on them, and now both the immigrants and the Russians are paying the consequences. Russian skinheads would beat the shit out of me too, but I sympathize with the less extreme sorts, who are disappointed by the government's defiance of the national will.
Quote: (09-13-2011 03:10 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
While true, something about Russia's brand of danger seems particularly heinous. The reporter said after that Azerbaijan man stabbed to death that such attacks illicit sympathy amongst most the people. That blew me away. While you may be mugged for your money in Brazil or Colombia, the population at large doesn't side with the mugger.
Generally people from Azerbaijan have reputation of being involved in a drug trade. Not all of them are, of course, but some indeed are. Consider that the police does nothing to fight the drug crimes as drug dealers pay protection money, and you'll see why the population may feel sympathetic to those cases.
At the same time I remember Oscar Grant incident last year, when a black guy was shot to death (apparently by mistake) by the police officer here in Oakland. Even through the dude was ex-con, was being detained, and it was even admitted by the police officer himself that his death was a result of a bad mistake - still - surprisingly to me - quite a lot of people here in US sided up with the police.
Each country has its own problems, which look bizarre at the surface.
Quote: (09-14-2011 08:03 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:
At the same time I remember Oscar Grant incident last year, when a black guy was shot to death (apparently by mistake) by the police officer here in Oakland. Even through the dude was ex-con, was being detained, and it was even admitted by the police officer himself that his death was a result of a bad mistake - still - surprisingly to me - quite a lot of people here in US sided up with the police.
Each country has its own problems, which look bizarre at the surface.
Murder vs. manslaughter. They're different.
Quote: (09-13-2011 10:31 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:
Its a different place dude and its a different culture completely. Again, you need to understand that they have had as hard a time of it as anyone and there was no civil rights movement there. Also, the media does sensationalise these things and the statistics sound bad because you are not really used to those sorts of numbers either.
Genocide Watch, for example, just raised their warning levels to a 7 in South Africa. White farmers who have lived there for over 300 years are being murdered in droves now and its clearly hate crimes. You wont see many stories on that though, and the last story CNN was when a white supremacist farmer was killed. The governing political party has their youth leader singing a song called "Shoot the Farmer" and it sees very little international main stream press. So you even have senior politicians encouraging the behaviour.
Does that mean that whites cant live in South Africa? Of course not, there are almost 3.5 million there. Its white population alone is larger than the whole of NZ.
Russians are very nationalistic. They are also not going to handle things the way a more liberal west would. Russians hit first and ask questions later, and the rise in xenaphobia has a lot to do with the crime waves and social problems a lot of the immigrants brought. They deal with their problems their way, and while its heinous to you, appreciate the fact that their culture and people as a whole have been around and developed for over 1000 years now.
The civil rights movement is not even 70 years old yet in the west. Russia only had its "French Revolution" after the first world war.
What are the problems these immigrants have brought?
@ Torronto
A lot of crime, and violent crime in particular.
Another major issue has been the very low wages they work for, often taking work from the locals.
A lot of crime, and violent crime in particular.
Another major issue has been the very low wages they work for, often taking work from the locals.
Quote: (09-14-2011 08:03 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:
a black guy was shot to death (apparently by mistake) by the police officer here in Oakland. Even through the dude was ex-con, was being detained, and it was even admitted by the police officer himself that his death was a result of a bad mistake - still - surprisingly to me - quite a lot of people here in US sided up with the police.
That subway incident was straight manslaughter for sure--the black guy was down, no one, including the officer was in danger. Cop just lost his temper and wasted the guy. You can't have a civilized society when pissed-off cops who have to chase assholes who fight on subways- a cop who therefore has NO objectivity-- start shooting suspects. Even if someone [appears] to be a flat out murderer you can't have that.
That being said, people who fight on subways and the like make a city a fucking hell-hole. Who wants to deal with that type of primitive behavior on the way home from work? The fools are filling up our jails, but there's a good side to that: let them victimize each other. Stupid people are more violent, almost by definition:
http://www.ajol.info/index.html/ajpsy/art...02/50971..
I can tell you the city I live in in California is pretty calm and peaceful because many, many lower-functioning (of all races) are rotting in jail. I think there are more progressive, cost-effective systems where we could have/make some kind of work for them, many are salvageable, but a place like Russia has no extra resources available (after oligarch cut) to even feign that.
Quote: (09-13-2011 10:31 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:
Its a different place dude and its a different culture completely. Again, you need to understand that they have had as hard a time of it as anyone and there was no civil rights movement there. Also, the media does sensationalise these things and the statistics sound bad because you are not really used to those sorts of numbers either.
Genocide Watch, for example, just raised their warning levels to a 7 in South Africa. White farmers who have lived there for over 300 years are being murdered in droves now and its clearly hate crimes. You wont see many stories on that though, and the last story CNN was when a white supremacist farmer was killed. The governing political party has their youth leader singing a song called "Shoot the Farmer" and it sees very little international main stream press. So you even have senior politicians encouraging the behaviour.
Does that mean that whites cant live in South Africa? Of course not, there are almost 3.5 million there. Its white population alone is larger than the whole of NZ.
Russians are very nationalistic. They are also not going to handle things the way a more liberal west would. Russians hit first and ask questions later, and the rise in xenaphobia has a lot to do with the crime waves and social problems a lot of the immigrants brought. They deal with their problems their way, and while its heinous to you, appreciate the fact that their culture and people as a whole have been around and developed for over 1000 years now.
The civil rights movement is not even 70 years old yet in the west. Russia only had its "French Revolution" after the first world war.
The lack of care our liberal media has for other whites is fucking despicable. It's like our western society encourages self-hate among white people. Has anyone else seen this self-hate bullshit?
Wow I look a little bit like that guy and I'm not white.
Quote: (10-31-2011 12:13 PM)All or Nothing Wrote:
Quote: (09-13-2011 10:31 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:
Its a different place dude and its a different culture completely. Again, you need to understand that they have had as hard a time of it as anyone and there was no civil rights movement there. Also, the media does sensationalise these things and the statistics sound bad because you are not really used to those sorts of numbers either.
Genocide Watch, for example, just raised their warning levels to a 7 in South Africa. White farmers who have lived there for over 300 years are being murdered in droves now and its clearly hate crimes. You wont see many stories on that though, and the last story CNN was when a white supremacist farmer was killed. The governing political party has their youth leader singing a song called "Shoot the Farmer" and it sees very little international main stream press. So you even have senior politicians encouraging the behaviour.
Does that mean that whites cant live in South Africa? Of course not, there are almost 3.5 million there. Its white population alone is larger than the whole of NZ.
Russians are very nationalistic. They are also not going to handle things the way a more liberal west would. Russians hit first and ask questions later, and the rise in xenaphobia has a lot to do with the crime waves and social problems a lot of the immigrants brought. They deal with their problems their way, and while its heinous to you, appreciate the fact that their culture and people as a whole have been around and developed for over 1000 years now.
The civil rights movement is not even 70 years old yet in the west. Russia only had its "French Revolution" after the first world war.
The lack of care our liberal media has for other whites is fucking despicable. It's like our western society encourages self-hate among white people. Has anyone else seen this self-hate bullshit?
The flip-side of that is atrocities by whites against others is either brushed over, or not even mentioned at all in history books. Any attempt to address that is met with charges of negativity, or playing victim. You either believe in the truth or you don't. If any form of racism is called out by people of color against whites, the cries of "race card" immediately go up, instead of actually looking at the incident and acknowledging it. It goes both ways...
"The best kind of pride is that which compels a man to do his best when no one is watching."
Quote: (10-31-2011 04:55 PM)Timoteo Wrote:
The flip-side of that is atrocities by whites against others is either brushed over, or not even mentioned at all in history books. Any attempt to address that is met with charges of negativity, or playing victim. You either believe in the truth or you don't. If any form of racism is called out by people of color against whites, the cries of "race card" immediately go up, instead of actually looking at the incident and acknowledging it. It goes both ways...
It's funny that you have people thinking that the Western media(which is entirely owned by whites) is biased against white people. How can anyone read this and think the media is anti-white? The phenomena is so pervasive that someone even had to make a wikipedia entry for it.
As for why white farmers in Zimbabwe aren't getting much coverage, I'd say it's because anything going on in Africa doesn't get much coverage in general. When hutus and tutsis were killing each other that didn't get much coverage either, nor did the 5 million dead from the civil war in Congo or the 1.5 million dead from the Algerian civil war. The white farmers live in the middle of Africa, and the media generally doesn't give a shit about anything going on in Africa since that doesn't make for great ratings.
Quote: (10-31-2011 05:32 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
Quote: (10-31-2011 04:55 PM)Timoteo Wrote:
The flip-side of that is atrocities by whites against others is either brushed over, or not even mentioned at all in history books. Any attempt to address that is met with charges of negativity, or playing victim. You either believe in the truth or you don't. If any form of racism is called out by people of color against whites, the cries of "race card" immediately go up, instead of actually looking at the incident and acknowledging it. It goes both ways...
It's funny that you have people thinking that the Western media(which is entirely owned by whites) is biased against white people. How can anyone read this and think the media is anti-white? The phenomena is so pervasive that someone even had to make a wikipedia entry for it.
As for why white farmers in Zimbabwe aren't getting much coverage, I'd say it's because anything going on in Africa doesn't get much coverage in general. When hutus and tutsis were killing each other that didn't get much coverage either, nor did the 5 million dead from the civil war in Congo or the 1.5 million dead from the Algerian civil war. The white farmers live in the middle of Africa, and the media generally doesn't give a shit about anything going on in Africa since that doesn't make for great ratings.
White farmers in South Africa now, not Zimbabwe. Those farmers fled and the country is starving now with 80% unemployment. But it should get a lot of coverage, its a commonwealth country no different to New Zealand or Australia. This might not be the sort of news you would see in the USA, but it would be the sort of news we expect to see all over the commonwealth. Its always been like that. A white supremacist was killed, it was headlines for a few days. What they dont tell you is that almost 10% of the white farmer population has been murdered in home invasions, yet we got stories of a white kid killing a few people in township after he witnessed the gang rape of his mother and the execution of his father in his home. That made news here in Australia, but the original event did not.
Ans its brutal stuff. Gang rape the women and young girls before they execute the men. Torture children, beat the elderly. Not isolated cases either, its potential genocide. Hit up the South African news sites and take a look.
Speakeasy, unfortunately white guilt and very liberal, left leaning media dictates what sees print. Race crimes against whites are very under reported and there is a reluctance to print the race of perpetrators. However the very few race crimes whites commit against minorities are almost always reported as such and will see headlines. Its almost certain.
The fact that whites own the media means little. Politically correct is far more important than accuracy. Just like the MSM media tows the line with feminism and homosexuality, it does the same thing with race.
Just the way it is, its not going to change
Quote: (10-31-2011 10:37 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:
Quote: (10-31-2011 05:32 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
Quote: (10-31-2011 04:55 PM)Timoteo Wrote:
The flip-side of that is atrocities by whites against others is either brushed over, or not even mentioned at all in history books. Any attempt to address that is met with charges of negativity, or playing victim. You either believe in the truth or you don't. If any form of racism is called out by people of color against whites, the cries of "race card" immediately go up, instead of actually looking at the incident and acknowledging it. It goes both ways...
It's funny that you have people thinking that the Western media(which is entirely owned by whites) is biased against white people. How can anyone read this and think the media is anti-white? The phenomena is so pervasive that someone even had to make a wikipedia entry for it.
As for why white farmers in Zimbabwe aren't getting much coverage, I'd say it's because anything going on in Africa doesn't get much coverage in general. When hutus and tutsis were killing each other that didn't get much coverage either, nor did the 5 million dead from the civil war in Congo or the 1.5 million dead from the Algerian civil war. The white farmers live in the middle of Africa, and the media generally doesn't give a shit about anything going on in Africa since that doesn't make for great ratings.
White farmers in South Africa now, not Zimbabwe. Those farmers fled and the country is starving now with 80% unemployment. But it should get a lot of coverage, its a commonwealth country no different to New Zealand or Australia. This might not be the sort of news you would see in the USA, but it would be the sort of news we expect to see all over the commonwealth. Its always been like that. A white supremacist was killed, it was headlines for a few days. What they dont tell you is that almost 10% of the white farmer population has been murdered in home invasions, yet we got stories of a white kid killing a few people in township after he witnessed the gang rape of his mother and the execution of his father in his home. That made news here in Australia, but the original event did not.
Ans its brutal stuff. Gang rape the women and young girls before they execute the men. Torture children, beat the elderly. Not isolated cases either, its potential genocide. Hit up the South African news sites and take a look.
Speakeasy, unfortunately white guilt and very liberal, left leaning media dictates what sees print. Race crimes against whites are very under reported and there is a reluctance to print the race of perpetrators. However the very few race crimes whites commit against minorities are almost always reported as such and will see headlines. Its almost certain.
The fact that whites own the media means little. Politically correct is far more important than accuracy. Just like the MSM media tows the line with feminism and homosexuality, it does the same thing with race.
Just the way it is, its not going to change
You must not live in NY...race is the first thing they lay out when a crime is committed, and immediately discuss if race was a factor in the altercation/crime. Maybe you hear fewer reports of race crimes against whites because there are fewer of them. You could also say that the atrocities of colonizers against the colonized are minimized also by those that record history - namely whites. The political correctness things gets taken a little too far in the other direction too. I find the MSM tapdances around the race issue period, but not necessarily favoring whites OR non-whites.
However, lets look at the missing girl stories. If she's pretty and white, it gets major nationwide coverage for YEARS. Pretty black girls go missing also, but you'd be lucky if it gets local coverage for a day or too. I see THAT as a truth also. I agree that the media is more entertainment than exploration of truth, but it also plays more to it's primary audience - whites.
"The best kind of pride is that which compels a man to do his best when no one is watching."
Quote: (10-31-2011 10:37 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:
Quote: (10-31-2011 05:32 PM)speakeasy Wrote:
Quote: (10-31-2011 04:55 PM)Timoteo Wrote:
The flip-side of that is atrocities by whites against others is either brushed over, or not even mentioned at all in history books. Any attempt to address that is met with charges of negativity, or playing victim. You either believe in the truth or you don't. If any form of racism is called out by people of color against whites, the cries of "race card" immediately go up, instead of actually looking at the incident and acknowledging it. It goes both ways...
It's funny that you have people thinking that the Western media(which is entirely owned by whites) is biased against white people. How can anyone read this and think the media is anti-white? The phenomena is so pervasive that someone even had to make a wikipedia entry for it.
As for why white farmers in Zimbabwe aren't getting much coverage, I'd say it's because anything going on in Africa doesn't get much coverage in general. When hutus and tutsis were killing each other that didn't get much coverage either, nor did the 5 million dead from the civil war in Congo or the 1.5 million dead from the Algerian civil war. The white farmers live in the middle of Africa, and the media generally doesn't give a shit about anything going on in Africa since that doesn't make for great ratings.
White farmers in South Africa now, not Zimbabwe. Those farmers fled and the country is starving now with 80% unemployment. But it should get a lot of coverage, its a commonwealth country no different to New Zealand or Australia. This might not be the sort of news you would see in the USA, but it would be the sort of news we expect to see all over the commonwealth. Its always been like that. A white supremacist was killed, it was headlines for a few days. What they dont tell you is that almost 10% of the white farmer population has been murdered in home invasions, yet we got stories of a white kid killing a few people in township after he witnessed the gang rape of his mother and the execution of his father in his home. That made news here in Australia, but the original event did not.
Ans its brutal stuff. Gang rape the women and young girls before they execute the men. Torture children, beat the elderly. Not isolated cases either, its potential genocide. Hit up the South African news sites and take a look.
Speakeasy, unfortunately white guilt and very liberal, left leaning media dictates what sees print. Race crimes against whites are very under reported and there is a reluctance to print the race of perpetrators. However the very few race crimes whites commit against minorities are almost always reported as such and will see headlines. Its almost certain.
The fact that whites own the media means little. Politically correct is far more important than accuracy. Just like the MSM media tows the line with feminism and homosexuality, it does the same thing with race.
Just the way it is, its not going to change
HH, I have actually represented a few white South Africans for refugee status and they almost always get denied for no other reason but race IMO. The arguments of my submissions were verbatim the same as other refugee claimants yet unacceptable. I believe it is only because they are white.
These examples of racism against whites in their homelands are not mild in nature. They are very, very extreme. Often very, very sad as well.
Quote: (11-01-2011 02:16 PM)Timoteo Wrote:
You must not live in NY...race is the first thing they lay out when a crime is committed, and immediately discuss if race was a factor in the altercation/crime. Maybe you hear fewer reports of race crimes against whites because there are fewer of them. You could also say that the atrocities of colonizers against the colonized are minimized also by those that record history - namely whites. The political correctness things gets taken a little too far in the other direction too. I find the MSM tapdances around the race issue period, but not necessarily favoring whites OR non-whites.
However, lets look at the missing girl stories. If she's pretty and white, it gets major nationwide coverage for YEARS. Pretty black girls go missing also, but you'd be lucky if it gets local coverage for a day or too. I see THAT as a truth also. I agree that the media is more entertainment than exploration of truth, but it also plays more to it's primary audience - whites.
Straight white men own the media. Yet those straight white men have no problems pushing politically correct agendas like feminism and homosexuality do they? Why will they do the opposite and throw politically correct out the window when it comes to race?
Look I am not about to enter into a race debate on this forum. No good will come from it. There is a clear effort on the MSM's part to downplay black crime and black hate crimes in particular and there are few whites who would disagree with that. No doubt there are black folk here who will immediately cry out "Its because they are racist" as their standard go to, but its like water off a ducks back with that standard go to these days.
Im not going to try and convince anyone to go to Russia. I have lived there. Its no more risky than Brazil or South Africa. I just get tired of people painting all Russians in the same way when their culture is over 1000 years old. The civil rights movement is not even 70 years old for christs sake. Its so young in comparison to European and Asian culture its a social experiment still.
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HH, I have actually represented a few white South Africans for refugee status and they almost always get denied for no other reason but race IMO. The arguments of my submissions were verbatim the same as other refugee claimants yet unacceptable. I believe it is only because they are white.
These examples of racism against whites in their homelands are not mild in nature. They are very, very extreme. Often very, very sad as well.
Is it just me, or are the bulk of the hate crimes directed at Boer's rather than Cape Dutch?
Quote: (11-01-2011 09:29 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:
Look I am not about to enter into a race debate on this forum. No good will come from it. There is a clear effort on the MSM's part to downplay black crime and black hate crimes in particular and there are few whites who would disagree with that. No doubt there are black folk here who will immediately cry out "Its because they are racist" as their standard go to, but its like water off a ducks back with that standard go to these days.
HH, I'm not looking for a protracted race debate either, but I do have to correct your facts. Blacks are the most likely victims of hate crime in America. Why would we need to play up anti-white hate crimes when most hate crimes are against blacks?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_crime#...me_victims
Speakeasy, it would be just as easy to make a case for the way crime is reported.
White on black crime when violent is often regarded as hate crime by default and will be reported as such. Black on white crime when its violent is often only considered crime. Considering the sheer volume of murders and the fact that even though they are a minority they dominate crime statistics, its a bit difficult to continue to buy into this bullshit that black on white crime is not under reported. Its bordering on the illogical.
according to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks
The point I am making is that white hate crimes generate FAR more publicity than black hate crimes. Its why Russias problem with its nationalists is so widely known and reported on, while genocide committed against white farmers in Southern Africa goes unreported. It just dont not suit the politically correct approach the MSM takes to issues of race, and that means that people who intend to travel to Russia need to be aware while understanding its no more dangerous than Brazil or South Africa
Did you know that almost 30% of white South Africans have left the country in the last 20 years? Close to 2 million people leaving due to legislated discrimination and violent crime. You dont hear about that, yet you hear about a few hundred racist attacks in Moscow which are far more complex than most are willing to understand.
Again, I base my views on stats predominantly, not opinion. But this bullshit about whitey owning the media therefore = biased reporting against minorities is not only false, its a gross misrepresentation of reality and flys in the face of statistics which are hard to dispute. Not only that, it lacks any congruency given the MSM's politically correct approach to most social issues.
Just like women dont notice the misandry and homosexuals dont notice how in your face they have become, minorities dont quite notice just how anti white the media is in general.
White on black crime when violent is often regarded as hate crime by default and will be reported as such. Black on white crime when its violent is often only considered crime. Considering the sheer volume of murders and the fact that even though they are a minority they dominate crime statistics, its a bit difficult to continue to buy into this bullshit that black on white crime is not under reported. Its bordering on the illogical.
according to the latest annual report on murder by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, most inter-racial murders involve black assailants and white victims, with blacks murdering whites at 18 times the rate that whites murder blacks
The point I am making is that white hate crimes generate FAR more publicity than black hate crimes. Its why Russias problem with its nationalists is so widely known and reported on, while genocide committed against white farmers in Southern Africa goes unreported. It just dont not suit the politically correct approach the MSM takes to issues of race, and that means that people who intend to travel to Russia need to be aware while understanding its no more dangerous than Brazil or South Africa
Did you know that almost 30% of white South Africans have left the country in the last 20 years? Close to 2 million people leaving due to legislated discrimination and violent crime. You dont hear about that, yet you hear about a few hundred racist attacks in Moscow which are far more complex than most are willing to understand.
Again, I base my views on stats predominantly, not opinion. But this bullshit about whitey owning the media therefore = biased reporting against minorities is not only false, its a gross misrepresentation of reality and flys in the face of statistics which are hard to dispute. Not only that, it lacks any congruency given the MSM's politically correct approach to most social issues.
Just like women dont notice the misandry and homosexuals dont notice how in your face they have become, minorities dont quite notice just how anti white the media is in general.
Quote: (11-02-2011 12:00 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:
Speakeasy, it would be just as easy to make a case for the way crime is reported.
White on black crime when violent is often regarded as hate crime by default and will be reported as such. Black on white crime when its violent is often only considered crime. Considering the sheer volume of murders and the fact that even though they are a minority they dominate crime statistics, its a bit difficult to continue to buy into this bullshit that black on white crime is not under reported. Its bordering on the illogical.
I'm quite aware there's more black on white crime than the other way around. But are we talking about general crime in this thread or are we talking specifically about hate-based crimes as opposed to crimes of financial gain or opportunity? I thought it was the latter. It's also should be noted that most victims of black crime are other blacks, esp when it comes to murder and rape. So there's no reason to think blacks are specifically targeting whites for crime.
Quote: (11-02-2011 01:07 AM)speakeasy Wrote:
Quote: (11-02-2011 12:00 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:
Speakeasy, it would be just as easy to make a case for the way crime is reported.
White on black crime when violent is often regarded as hate crime by default and will be reported as such. Black on white crime when its violent is often only considered crime. Considering the sheer volume of murders and the fact that even though they are a minority they dominate crime statistics, its a bit difficult to continue to buy into this bullshit that black on white crime is not under reported. Its bordering on the illogical.
I'm quite aware there's more black on white crime than the other way around. But are we talking about general crime in this thread or are we talking specifically about hate-based crimes as opposed to crimes of financial gain or opportunity? I thought it was the latter. It's also should be noted that most victims of black crime are other blacks, esp when it comes to murder and rape. So there's no reason to think blacks are specifically targeting whites for crime.
So white on black crime is automatically more hate based and black on white is automatically less? Great logic, truly sound in nature. I bet it is even backed by some statistics... somewhere.
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