I did a search for this and there seemed to be no thread on this, so forgive me if I'm mistaken. I've had this discussion privately and in person with RVF guys as well as in some threads on the forum lately. We talk about chill people we meet abroad, people we can't stand, people we think are fake, or just "normies". Traveling is becoming mainstream and it's nearly impossible not to get classified in a group.
With that said, I thought it'd be fun to throw out some of the most common groups of travelers we see and rank them from most tolerable to most annoying. I'll put out about 10 to go with off the top of my head and we can debate from there.
Digital Nomads- I'll start with the one most recently compared to us. These are guys that make all of their income online but don't necessarily rely on vlogging but some do. They tend to be more obsessed with the absolute cheapest cities like Chiang Mai, look for co-working spaces, coffee shops, and maybe a gym. Some make it, some are along for the ride but may end up failing. Probably average openess to the culture around them but may be a little more likely to stick with their own than we are. Out of these, they're probably the most likely to keep moving around rather than establishing roots, most might go for a few years.
Backpackers- Similar attitude to digital nomads except that they're usually in a poorer country specifically for tourism. They almost always stay in hostels and live out of a big backpack. Usually more obsessed with finding flight discounts or credit cards with point deals. May take these to an extreme. Tend to stick with their own culture, may judge a guy like us for getting with poor local girls, but try to maintain an attitude of openess on the surface while desiring to find the safest off the grid location. The best may actually find more unique spots to travel while the worst of them are "ratpackers" that beg for change in an already poor country like Thailand.
English Teachers/Hostel Workers/Foreign Exchange Students- These are travelers I would classify as beginners to longer-term travel and sustaining themselves abroad in probably the easiest ways. Usually they're away for a semester, six months, or a year to go explore a new culture because they never have before or not for a longer time period. A few end up staying longer but they tend to stay in the country they're working or going to school.
Adventure Tourists- These travelers are the most likely to go on the extreme end of traveling. These can look for crazier activities like the best spots to skydive, mountain climb, bungee jump, white water rafting, while others look for the most extreme and unstable destinations to explore such as North Korea, Iraq, Syria, Congo, Nigeria, etc. Naughty Nomad is probably a positive example of this type of traveler while the worst can be guys that are not prepared for the possible consequences of making a mistake in this area such as Otto Warmbier. Young Pioneer Tours are probably the most famous organized group for this.
Fempats- To put it simply, these are western girls or to the extreme upper class girls that travel abroad to somewhere their value drops. Some still act entitled and don't realize the situation, other girls realize it and become bitter, some don't care and still keep the western attitude, and little may adapt to their environment. Positives can be that if you're into western girls, it can potentially make it easier to hook up with them abroad. Negatives can be they can be the most direct reminder of why you left your homeland in the first place.
Regional/Domestic Tourists- These are travelers that may be more closely related to the culture of the country you're in. They can be from a different part of the country, a neighboring country, or one that shares a similar culture. Examples include Spaniards in Latin America, Americans in England or Australia, Northern Asians in Southeast Asia (yes I know they're different but probably closer than western countries), New Yorkers in California, or Russians in Eastern Europe/Central Asia. They can offer you a fresh/closer perspective of where you are or just remind you more of the negatives of the culture/area.
Party Tourists- The groups we meet that go to a location specifically to party. If you want a good time, they can potentially be fun people to have a good day or night out with, but are also the most likely types to go to a resort in Cancun or Punta Cana, as well as only go to an island like Boracay in the Philippines, Ibiza in Spain, or Bali in Indonesia. Probably less likely to break from the group they go with versus other types of travelers that party. Can potentially be baller types that buy bottles and reserved spots in clubs or stag parties that de-value a city for others.
Real Sex Tourists- Not like us who go to meet with the normal girls, have mini-LTRs, or even wife hunt. These types go somewhere specifically for PAID sex. Most likely to be found in third world countries but can also be in found in very pro-friendly environments such as Vegas, Amsterdam, or Japan.
Expats- These are people that probably have the deepest roots in the country they currently live and most likely been abroad the longest. More likely to adapt to new culture. Get by by savings, pension, inheritance, or passive income. Some may potentially even marry a local girl. The best can be experienced guys to give advice to others going in this direction and help settle into the new environment, others can be societal rejects able to get by in a cheaper country that can be toxic, some can end up losing everything.
Mainstream Tourists- Finally, the most generic type of traveler we think of. The people who take a week vacation away once a year, maybe wearing a Hawaiian shirt in a beach destination, having a map or obviously looking lost, only going to the "safe" countries, traveling with family, western wife, or friends, and pretty much stick to the guidebook and main sites to see. Can be a mixed bag and may meet people of different backgrounds but they would be the quickest to leave your destination.
So who's the best to be around of these and who's the worst?
With that said, I thought it'd be fun to throw out some of the most common groups of travelers we see and rank them from most tolerable to most annoying. I'll put out about 10 to go with off the top of my head and we can debate from there.
Digital Nomads- I'll start with the one most recently compared to us. These are guys that make all of their income online but don't necessarily rely on vlogging but some do. They tend to be more obsessed with the absolute cheapest cities like Chiang Mai, look for co-working spaces, coffee shops, and maybe a gym. Some make it, some are along for the ride but may end up failing. Probably average openess to the culture around them but may be a little more likely to stick with their own than we are. Out of these, they're probably the most likely to keep moving around rather than establishing roots, most might go for a few years.
Backpackers- Similar attitude to digital nomads except that they're usually in a poorer country specifically for tourism. They almost always stay in hostels and live out of a big backpack. Usually more obsessed with finding flight discounts or credit cards with point deals. May take these to an extreme. Tend to stick with their own culture, may judge a guy like us for getting with poor local girls, but try to maintain an attitude of openess on the surface while desiring to find the safest off the grid location. The best may actually find more unique spots to travel while the worst of them are "ratpackers" that beg for change in an already poor country like Thailand.
English Teachers/Hostel Workers/Foreign Exchange Students- These are travelers I would classify as beginners to longer-term travel and sustaining themselves abroad in probably the easiest ways. Usually they're away for a semester, six months, or a year to go explore a new culture because they never have before or not for a longer time period. A few end up staying longer but they tend to stay in the country they're working or going to school.
Adventure Tourists- These travelers are the most likely to go on the extreme end of traveling. These can look for crazier activities like the best spots to skydive, mountain climb, bungee jump, white water rafting, while others look for the most extreme and unstable destinations to explore such as North Korea, Iraq, Syria, Congo, Nigeria, etc. Naughty Nomad is probably a positive example of this type of traveler while the worst can be guys that are not prepared for the possible consequences of making a mistake in this area such as Otto Warmbier. Young Pioneer Tours are probably the most famous organized group for this.
Fempats- To put it simply, these are western girls or to the extreme upper class girls that travel abroad to somewhere their value drops. Some still act entitled and don't realize the situation, other girls realize it and become bitter, some don't care and still keep the western attitude, and little may adapt to their environment. Positives can be that if you're into western girls, it can potentially make it easier to hook up with them abroad. Negatives can be they can be the most direct reminder of why you left your homeland in the first place.
Regional/Domestic Tourists- These are travelers that may be more closely related to the culture of the country you're in. They can be from a different part of the country, a neighboring country, or one that shares a similar culture. Examples include Spaniards in Latin America, Americans in England or Australia, Northern Asians in Southeast Asia (yes I know they're different but probably closer than western countries), New Yorkers in California, or Russians in Eastern Europe/Central Asia. They can offer you a fresh/closer perspective of where you are or just remind you more of the negatives of the culture/area.
Party Tourists- The groups we meet that go to a location specifically to party. If you want a good time, they can potentially be fun people to have a good day or night out with, but are also the most likely types to go to a resort in Cancun or Punta Cana, as well as only go to an island like Boracay in the Philippines, Ibiza in Spain, or Bali in Indonesia. Probably less likely to break from the group they go with versus other types of travelers that party. Can potentially be baller types that buy bottles and reserved spots in clubs or stag parties that de-value a city for others.
Real Sex Tourists- Not like us who go to meet with the normal girls, have mini-LTRs, or even wife hunt. These types go somewhere specifically for PAID sex. Most likely to be found in third world countries but can also be in found in very pro-friendly environments such as Vegas, Amsterdam, or Japan.
Expats- These are people that probably have the deepest roots in the country they currently live and most likely been abroad the longest. More likely to adapt to new culture. Get by by savings, pension, inheritance, or passive income. Some may potentially even marry a local girl. The best can be experienced guys to give advice to others going in this direction and help settle into the new environment, others can be societal rejects able to get by in a cheaper country that can be toxic, some can end up losing everything.
Mainstream Tourists- Finally, the most generic type of traveler we think of. The people who take a week vacation away once a year, maybe wearing a Hawaiian shirt in a beach destination, having a map or obviously looking lost, only going to the "safe" countries, traveling with family, western wife, or friends, and pretty much stick to the guidebook and main sites to see. Can be a mixed bag and may meet people of different backgrounds but they would be the quickest to leave your destination.
So who's the best to be around of these and who's the worst?
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