Nice try Mr.Soros with this thread, nice try.
There is no plan
Quote: (11-30-2018 01:11 AM)questor70 Wrote:
I think obsessing on the world's problems for too long leads you down a darkening alleyway that eventually bottoms out with suicide (if you turn inward) or extremism like this:
For instance, around the time of Gulf War II they did a biography on Saddam and explained that he was an unwanted child and he was made aware of the fact that he was an unwanted child. His cruelty was ultimately an expression of his deep-seated insecurity.
I find myself going through a lot of the same sorts of searching and questioning and frustrations that I hear from Roosh's live chats. However, I sort of "catch" myself when I feel that I'm lapsing too far because, frankly, it doesn't feel good to be stewing in so much negativity all the time. Life is just too short for that.
I have been on the internet since 1993 so I really think the internet has acted to turn the world into a giant hive-mind. The way the mind works is based on fuzzy logic. There's a lot of indecision. Neurons "fight" until one side wins. That's how societies have always functioned but the internet has destroyed decorum and raised the noise-floor. I'm glad I never really jumped on the Twitter bandwagon because that seems to be ground zero where everything takes place, all the way up to Elon Musk and the POTUS. It's the central part of the new commons, and it burns with the heat of a thousand suns. Sometimes it can be harmless, like with memes, and sometimes it can be mob rule, like the #MeToo madness. But it's like this vortex that pulls everyone in to waste a ton of energy arguing with people who will never change their minds.
The trick is to find a way to calmly reject aspects of society that you don't like without getting consumed in the eternal dumpster-fire that epitomizes internet discourse. Tending your own garden, so to speak.
Remember when Roosh was writing articles about stoicism and tao? That's what I'm talking about. Of course, I didn't have my books banned or get stopped in Iceland or anything. But I think for those of us who aren't in the cross-hairs at least, a more stoic approach is probably healthier than getting ever more agitated and outraged and going down conspiracy-theory rabbit-holes.
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Best post of the thread. That took thought and time.
One of the lamest posts in this thread ^
Yeah there's no plan, it's just a random coincidence that the exact same thing is happening in every country in the world at the exact same time.
Yeah there's no plan, it's just a random coincidence that the exact same thing is happening in every country in the world at the exact same time.
"Especially Roosh offers really good perspectives. But like MW said, at the end of the day, is he one of us?"
- Reciproke, posted on the Roosh V Forum.
Ever see the Kirk Cameron banana video meant to prove creationism?
Religion, cults, conspiracy theories, they all rest on this sort of pseudo-psience. It sounds ok at first glance, but doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
Just as there's no way to convince someone like Kirk Cameron of evolution there's no way to convince someone who strongly believes in a conspiracy that it's a figment of his imagination. That's just how it is.
Humans are always looking for meaning even when there is none. That's why Ancient Aliens is on what, 13 seasons and counting? The visual aspect of making a false connection is called pareidolia. A lot of the AA hypotheses rest on "this looks like a flying saucer" or "this guy looks like a gray alien" when there may be another explanation. But that sort of false connection can happen in a lot of different ways. "Hey, where are the stars in the moon landing photos? Must be a set!" or "How about Building 7"?
Clinical schizophrenia is the overactive mind creating connections that don't exist. Creativity rides that middle-ground between having an imagination and being innovative and flat out madness.
Take the progression of schizophrenia in the famous cat paintings or how the works of Philip K Dick became progressively loony.
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If you start going down a rabbit hole, keep obsessing, keep reinforcing that way of thinking, only stay in the silo...don't be surprised if you rewire your brain to the point where you can never come back again. This is personal to me because my own sister is stuck down that rabbit hole. I don't want to elaborate for fear of doxxing myself, but it's been a real tragedy for me to deal with.
The people in the thread who are reaching for the quick ad hominem and slinging parentheses around are really not interested in questioning their belief-system. The word for it is epistemic closure.
There's a LOT of it on the internet as like sees out like in the formation of silos. So it's easy to see the NPC-ism in other groups but not so easy to detect your own closed-mindedness.
Religion, cults, conspiracy theories, they all rest on this sort of pseudo-psience. It sounds ok at first glance, but doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
Just as there's no way to convince someone like Kirk Cameron of evolution there's no way to convince someone who strongly believes in a conspiracy that it's a figment of his imagination. That's just how it is.
Humans are always looking for meaning even when there is none. That's why Ancient Aliens is on what, 13 seasons and counting? The visual aspect of making a false connection is called pareidolia. A lot of the AA hypotheses rest on "this looks like a flying saucer" or "this guy looks like a gray alien" when there may be another explanation. But that sort of false connection can happen in a lot of different ways. "Hey, where are the stars in the moon landing photos? Must be a set!" or "How about Building 7"?
Clinical schizophrenia is the overactive mind creating connections that don't exist. Creativity rides that middle-ground between having an imagination and being innovative and flat out madness.
Take the progression of schizophrenia in the famous cat paintings or how the works of Philip K Dick became progressively loony.
If you start going down a rabbit hole, keep obsessing, keep reinforcing that way of thinking, only stay in the silo...don't be surprised if you rewire your brain to the point where you can never come back again. This is personal to me because my own sister is stuck down that rabbit hole. I don't want to elaborate for fear of doxxing myself, but it's been a real tragedy for me to deal with.
The people in the thread who are reaching for the quick ad hominem and slinging parentheses around are really not interested in questioning their belief-system. The word for it is epistemic closure.
There's a LOT of it on the internet as like sees out like in the formation of silos. So it's easy to see the NPC-ism in other groups but not so easy to detect your own closed-mindedness.
People like to pretend that the world exists as a petri dish for their mind, and that building a conclusive world view is somehow backward and ignorant when you might be "wrong" about something. My brother is like this. He made a complaint of me that caused me to really laugh out loud for the first time in ages. He accused me of having conviction.
Men can choose to be hyper-intellectual driftwood if they want, but those men are irrelevant except in their own minds.
Having conviction is the first step towards actually changing the things around you, hopefully for the better.
Men can choose to be hyper-intellectual driftwood if they want, but those men are irrelevant except in their own minds.
Having conviction is the first step towards actually changing the things around you, hopefully for the better.
The public will judge a man by what he lifts, but those close to him will judge him by what he carries.
OP is an idiot. The elites have a plan, because they want absolute power and absolute control!
Quote: (11-29-2018 09:43 AM)Flux Wrote:
There is talk about a conscious destruction of society, a scheme being made to deliberately change things, a careful plan being logically devised with a clear end goal. But what if there is no plan?
If you think of mankind as an organism that works together, and that undergoes different stages of a cycle, then we really have no free will in the grand scheme of things, and are doomed to go through the phases of the cycle, acting subconsciously in crucial moments of it.
I can't think of a mind being logically driven to cause what is happening now, and watching men of great influence like George Soros and Joseph Nye speak, it seems they have no clue of what is happening, they never speak of it. As if they're acting on a preset function, with no ability to see outside their perspective.
Soros talks about the problems of greed, and suggests that politicians and heads of companies be more moral, instead of approaching their careers in a selfish/monetary way, but then proceeds to act in the same way he's condemning. He knows about the degeneracy, and hates it, yet has no escape from it.
These men don't lie, they genuinely believe that what they're doing is beneficial to society. The only explanation must then be that they are acting out of instinct, as is everyone. People seem to subconsciously want society to collapse--as if the degeneracy is getting to everyone--and they see no way out.
When no one can handle the sickness, they don't instinctively seek to alleviate it, they instead seek to completely destroy everything, do a complete reset, and start over from scratch.
This is, as I understand it, the cycle of a human society.
You're assuming that Soros and company has the same definition of "morality" that you or anyone else does. I have no idea what he thinks is moral, or if he even thinks morality matters. I suspect morality is nothing more to him than a word to motivate the masses. He's admitted on 60 Minutes that he has a god complex and enjoys indulging it. I suspect that even the UN is just another piece on the board for him.
All of this is real simple. It's demoralization. Standards and boundaries (standards of conduct and merit; personal, moral, political and national boundaries) give society strength. Eliminate those and the robustness of society collapses, followed immediately by the Social Contract. When that fails, morale fails too. It's from structure that we derive any collective power. Without structure, our collective power is disorganized and undirected - and easily manipulated. This is where the power of belief comes in. Go watch The Messenger (the Joan of Arc movie) to see what raw unfiltered belief looks like. Then look at what's going on in academia - Noah Carl, for instance.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/hu...esearcher/
This is their open letter denouncing the appointment of the young scholar:
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A careful consideration of Carl’s published work and public stance on various issues, particularly on the claimed relationship between ‘race’, ‘criminality’ and ‘genetic intelligence’, leads us to conclude that his work is ethically suspect and methodologically flawed.
These publications, drawing on the discredited ‘race sciences’, seem nothing more than an expression of opinion on various social matters. As members of the academic community committed to defending the highest standards of ethical and methodological integrity in research and teaching, we are shocked that a body of work that includes vital errors in data analysis and interpretation appears to have been taken seriously for appointment to such a competitive research fellowship.
We are deeply concerned that racist pseudoscience is being legitimised through association with the University of Cambridge. This fellowship was awarded to Carl despite his attendance at, and public defence of, the discredited ‘London Conference on Intelligence’, where racist and pseudoscientific work has been regularly presented. Carl’s work has already been used by extremist and far-right media outlets with the aim of stoking xenophobic anti-immigrant rhetoric. In a context where the far-right is on the rise across the world, this kind of pseudoscientific racism runs the serious risk of being used to justify policies that directly harm vulnerable populations.
Here's the brief history on the "discredited" London Conference on Intelligence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Con...telligence
You'll note the absence of cited studies, and the repeated occurrence of words like Neo-nazi and eugenics. All of this politically correct Oppression Olympics stuff has become a European religion of self-flagellation. What you are witnessing is the power of belief.
What we have now is very comparable to Weimar Germany which erupted out of the combination of the consequences of WW1, and the rapid technological and social modernity that was emerging; all nations had to deal with the pressures of adapting to a new world, but Germany had the extra pressures of the treaty of Versailles, and that ended up being too much for them to handle.
Today, with the rapid rise of social media and the boom in technology, combined with the economic crisis of 2008, we have a direct comparison to the social instability that hit the world in the 20s and 30s.
WW1 ends in 1918, degeneracy rapidly augments with a disillusioned youth, homosexuality and transsexualism promoted, rise of the Frankfurt school, sexual degeneracy rampant (widespread underage prostitution), complete divide of the population between extremist fascists and communists--lasts 15 years until the takeover of Adolf Hitler in 1933.
If Hillary Clinton would've won I believe we would be on a very similar path; thankfully Trump won and that should delay things a little longer.
Today, with the rapid rise of social media and the boom in technology, combined with the economic crisis of 2008, we have a direct comparison to the social instability that hit the world in the 20s and 30s.
WW1 ends in 1918, degeneracy rapidly augments with a disillusioned youth, homosexuality and transsexualism promoted, rise of the Frankfurt school, sexual degeneracy rampant (widespread underage prostitution), complete divide of the population between extremist fascists and communists--lasts 15 years until the takeover of Adolf Hitler in 1933.
If Hillary Clinton would've won I believe we would be on a very similar path; thankfully Trump won and that should delay things a little longer.
Quote: (12-09-2018 06:38 PM)Flux Wrote:
If Hillary Clinton would've won I believe we would be on a very similar path; thankfully Trump won and that should delay things a little longer.
Trump didn't stop the rise of #MeToo or the SJW wave in entertainment. He's also potentially on the verge of being impeached by virtue of using campaign funding to hush Stormy Daniels. So he's not exactly symbolic of bringing back old-school family values. Maybe Pence walks the talk, but not Trump. He's anti-PC which is nice, but that's about it.
People are always seeking out singular heroes to worship and villains to despise. Culture doesn't work that way. Again, it's like flocks of fish deciding to bend and turn all at once. It's more mysterious and impossible to control. The rise of ideologues is more of a symptom than a cause.
Leaders ultimately fall in love with power and mirror the people's wants to keep it. Trump is doing what his voters want, and most of them are not red pilled, they're regular hard working, blue collar White American men. They just want good paying jobs and security.
Trump loves his power and will do what he has to do to keep it. If he gets impeached, Mike Pence will do a similar job, because they have the same voter base.
We still have time, maybe as much as 20 years before the next world war.
Trump loves his power and will do what he has to do to keep it. If he gets impeached, Mike Pence will do a similar job, because they have the same voter base.
We still have time, maybe as much as 20 years before the next world war.
Quote: (12-12-2018 12:50 PM)Flux Wrote:
Leaders ultimately fall in love with power and mirror the people's wants to keep it. Trump is doing what his voters want, and most of them are not red pilled, they're regular hard working, blue collar White American men. They just want good paying jobs and security.
Trump loves his power and will do what he has to do to keep it. If he gets impeached, Mike Pence will do a similar job, because they have the same voter base.
We still have time, maybe as much as 20 years before the next world war.
I call 2025-2026.
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The point is that there is a precedent to this, and there does seem to be a behavioural pattern.
It's also relieving to know that there's a limit to how bad things can get before the cycle changes phases.
It's also relieving to know that there's a limit to how bad things can get before the cycle changes phases.
Quote: (11-29-2018 09:43 AM)Flux Wrote:What a completely disingenuous thread!
There is talk about a conscious destruction of society, a scheme being made to deliberately change things, a careful plan being logically devised with a clear end goal. But what if there is no plan?
If you think of mankind as an organism that works together, and that undergoes different stages of a cycle, then we really have no free will in the grand scheme of things, and are doomed to go through the phases of the cycle, acting subconsciously in crucial moments of it.
I can't think of a mind being logically driven to cause what is happening now, and watching men of great influence like George Soros and Joseph Nye speak, it seems they have no clue of what is happening, they never speak of it. As if they're acting on a preset function, with no ability to see outside their perspective.
Soros talks about the problems of greed, and suggests that politicians and heads of companies be more moral, instead of approaching their careers in a selfish/monetary way, but then proceeds to act in the same way he's condemning. He knows about the degeneracy, and hates it, yet has no escape from it.
These men don't lie, they genuinely believe that what they're doing is beneficial to society. The only explanation must then be that they are acting out of instinct, as is everyone. People seem to subconsciously want society to collapse--as if the degeneracy is getting to everyone--and they see no way out.
When no one can handle the sickness, they don't instinctively seek to alleviate it, they instead seek to completely destroy everything, do a complete reset, and start over from scratch.
This is, as I understand it, the cycle of a human society.
For starters, your frame is muddled with your use of a ridiculous analogy of free will vs a plan among cooperating generations of organisms ergo, if we all cooperate using an evolutionary strategy, there can be no such a thing as free will as its already predetermined!
Your conclusion, if there is no free will, how can there be a plan…your logic is as transparent as it is flawed
This doesn’t deserve a thread on its own, this is clearly about the Jewish Question and there is a place in the forum to discuss it, you know, the one you regularly contribute to
I personally won’t respond to your trolling any further
From a Swedish news channel
PS: Just noticed something... the name of the NGO fundation ... Paideia... is the same one Zuckerberg's sister is working on ( as seen in the RVF thread)
https://www.paideiainstitute.org/staff_m...elepaideia
You cant make that shit up
No plan at all right
PS: Just noticed something... the name of the NGO fundation ... Paideia... is the same one Zuckerberg's sister is working on ( as seen in the RVF thread)
https://www.paideiainstitute.org/staff_m...elepaideia
You cant make that shit up
No plan at all right
Quote: (12-14-2018 07:35 AM)HD668B Wrote:
From a Swedish news channel
PS: Just noticed something... the name of the NGO fundation ... Paideia... is the same one Zuckerberg's sister is working on ( as seen in the RVF thread)
https://www.paideiainstitute.org/staff_m...elepaideia
You cant make that shit up
No plan at all right
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