[Spectrumwalker]

Always expect the worst and you'll never be disappointed.

[Vill@in]

(10-29-2017 07:06 PM)Striking Wrote:  

She has a very innocent looking face and a cutesy childish demeanor

And you say she likes to fuck.

Can I get her number?

[Jetset]

(10-30-2017 09:27 AM)alexovechkin Wrote:  

I'm sorry to be blunt man, but you sound like a baby. I'm sorry things didn't work out with this girl but I don't understand your outburst. As other guys have pointed out - and as any player understands - women like to fuck. Some women even like to fuck. So what? I know I'll get shit for this, but I think the double standard is bullshit. It's also totally counterproductive to our mission. The more jilted white knights go off on their slut shaming, the fewer sluts will be around. And I'm not using "sluts" in a pejorative sense. The more sluts in the world, the better.

There is nothing masculine or honorable about bitching and moaning because you found out a girl you're casually fucking, or just interested in, likes to slut it up. And I've seen it multiple times on this forum, when guys that try to cultivate this bulletproof masculine aura just fall to pieces over this fact. It's sad. Who fucking cares if she likes dick?

I'm not going to condemn the double standard or glorify promiscuity, but OP's got to take the blinders off.

Women have primal inner voices just like men. They aren't doing you a favor "letting" you sleep with them. This should be freeing for him, to be the man in the relationship and get what he needs in bed without shame.

Of course they like dick. They're supposed to. It only gets worse with men they don't know very well, because their hamster fills in the blanks with whatever they need to believe to make it work.

[lookslikeit]

Not only you have lots of self-improvement ahead but you also lack experience.

You'd be surprised how full is the world with "façades". I've been through several businesses which were considered trustworthy or running a real legitimate business but they were nothing but a "façade" to a sinful business. Downright criminal. Heck, the boss of the HSBC bank collided with drug cartels to launder money for them. It can't get worse than that.

You have a wrong picture of the world. You think the world is fair and square. Except that it is fucking chaotic. You think there could be good "women". Because the idea excites about family, your mother and stable society.

Not only the world is chaotic but also global capital has succeeded to damage the societal foundation civilizations have incepted in the last few thousands years. Come social media, and the big internet businesses. They are brining something new; and disturbing the peaceful society. Very fast that the human ADN can't catch up.

Even non-western countries societies will be destroyed in the future. We are moving at an exponential speed and it doesn't help that the leaders don't quietly believe in families/societies.

[Lunostrelki]

(10-30-2017 10:53 AM)lookslikeit Wrote:  

You have a wrong picture of the world. You think the world is fair and square. Except that it is fucking chaotic. You think there could be good "women". Because the idea excites about family, your mother and stable society.

Not only the world is chaotic but also global capital has succeeded to damage the societal foundation civilizations have incepted in the last few thousands years. Come social media, and the big internet businesses. They are brining something new; and disturbing the peaceful society. Very fast that the human ADN can't catch up.

Even non-western countries societies will be destroyed in the future. We are moving at an exponential speed and it doesn't help that the leaders don't quietly believe in families/societies.

I have to disagree. The world is chaotic and treachery lurks everywhere, but we are human in the end. We don't want to live in chaos. Whenever people are faced with an inhuman system, we dismantle it, or it destroys itself because its leaders are also human.

One of the biggest pillars of anti-humanism is atheism, because it reduces man to an animal and makes it easier for the system to turn people against each other after they have turned him against gods. But in both the east and west, atheism is increasingly associated with pretentiousness and personal failure.

As Kafka notes, logic is ironclad, but it holds no significance for a man who wants to go on living. By scientific rationale humanity should go extinct, be replaced by machines, whatever. That is the atheist/transhumanist way. But people won't give up the ghost. Many modern religious organizations now serve globalism, but the genuinely faithful will continue their ways and pass them to their numerous offspring, as they always have. And they only become more attractive. Big business and globalists, not even communist regimes have any effective answer to this.

[lookslikeit]

(10-30-2017 11:09 AM)Lunostrelki Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 10:53 AM)lookslikeit Wrote:  

You have a wrong picture of the world. You think the world is fair and square. Except that it is fucking chaotic. You think there could be good "women". Because the idea excites about family, your mother and stable society.

Not only the world is chaotic but also global capital has succeeded to damage the societal foundation civilizations have incepted in the last few thousands years. Come social media, and the big internet businesses. They are brining something new; and disturbing the peaceful society. Very fast that the human ADN can't catch up.

Even non-western countries societies will be destroyed in the future. We are moving at an exponential speed and it doesn't help that the leaders don't quietly believe in families/societies.

I have to disagree. The world is chaotic and treachery lurks everywhere, but we are human in the end. We don't want to live in chaos. Whenever people are faced with an inhuman system, we dismantle it, or it destroys itself because its leaders are also human.

One of the biggest pillars of anti-humanism is atheism, because it reduces man to an animal and makes it easier for the system to turn people against each other after they have turned him against gods. But in both the east and west, atheism is increasingly associated with pretentiousness and personal failure.

As Kafka notes, logic is ironclad, but it holds no significance for a man who wants to go on living. By scientific rationale humanity should go extinct, be replaced by machines, whatever. That is the atheist/transhumanist way. But people won't give up the ghost. Many modern religious organizations now serve globalism, but the genuinely faithful will continue their ways and pass them to their numerous offspring, as they always have. And they only become more attractive. Big business and globalists, not even communist regimes have any effective answer to this.

I'm not sure where you "disagree". I didn't say human like chaos. Actually the opposite from the case of the OP. I said the world is chaotic. Get used to it, and figure out how to live with it. It is ruthless too.

And whether big-capital/atheism wins on the long run is a speculative position. As far as I'm concerned nobody knows and I'll neither bet on it or take anyone words for it.

If you check artists imaginations from the early 1900 of how the world will be: flying cars, advanced cities, people at leisure... No one predicted that the major advancement in 2017 will be girls taking photos and adding cat/dogs ears and tongues to their faces. At least that's what the new iPhone X with infra-red facial recognition is about.

[General Stalin]

A lot of bitterness and insecurity frothing in OP here.

All women have the capacity to be whatever their environment molds them into. Never think any women is above being a pin cushion.

Take the prettiest, sweetest girl nextdoor type - chances are that girl has swallowed a load, taken it in the ass, eaten another girl's pussy, and maybe even had a devil's threesome (or two). The quicker you accept these things and just let go of your preconceived notions the quicker you can relax, enjoy life, and have fun with women.

From a glance it seems like OP is just mad that other dudes he feels he is better than have already run through this girl he's pedestalizing.

[griffinmill]

Every woman has it in her to be both madonna and the whore. The two are not mutually exclusive.

It's good sense to accept this.

[Lunostrelki]

(10-30-2017 10:53 AM)lookslikeit Wrote:  

I'm not sure where you "disagree". I didn't say human like chaos. Actually the opposite from the case of the OP. I said the world is chaotic. Get used to it, and figure out how to live with it. It is ruthless too.

I was referring to your points on societal change in the first post I quoted.

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And whether big-capital/atheism wins on the long run is a speculative position. As far as I'm concerned nobody knows and I'll neither bet on it or take anyone words for it.

If you check artists imaginations from the early 1900 of how the world will be: flying cars, advanced cities, people at leisure... No one predicted that the major advancement in 2017 will be girls taking photos and adding cat/dogs ears and tongues to their faces. At least that's what the new iPhone X with infra-red facial recognition is about.

Predicting details like that is different from making overall judgments (even if they are wishful judgements) from a broader angle.

As for the topic at hand, yeah the OP has his issues but AFAIK it's a normal reaction. Men should feel disgust at finding out that a decent-appearing girl is actually a whore. This kind of thing is definitely wrong and unhealthy, but you can't do anything about it. Just learn from the experience and move on. Knowing her kind will only make it easier to avoid falling for the same trap in future.

[Striking]

(10-30-2017 11:45 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

A lot of bitterness and insecurity frothing in OP here.

All women have the capacity to be whatever their environment molds them into. Never think any women is above being a pin cushion.

Take the prettiest, sweetest girl nextdoor type - chances are that girl has swallowed a load, taken it in the ass, eaten another girl's pussy, and maybe even had a devil's threesome (or two). The quicker you accept these things and just let go of your preconceived notions the quicker you can relax, enjoy life, and have fun with women.

From a glance it seems like OP is just mad that other dudes he feels he is better than have already run through this girl he's pedestalizing.

I don't like to bang sluts, and I don't have to. I get that for some of you these girls are your bread and butter, and so you get defensive... Sleeping with women that I estimate have a notch count you can count in one hand, and that have some sense of self respect and value, is what I see as rewarding.

I'm not pedestalizing the girl, I just put her through the normal test I put every woman, and was very disappointed when she failed it. I'm seeing more and more of women like her; it never gets any better when I find out they're sluts; and I'm seeing less of the ones I like; that's the reason for my distress.

If you don't care about a woman's promiscuity then we have nothing in common, and 2017's Western world for you is paradise on earth, because it's never been this easy to bang sluts.

[Elster]

Actually, it's always been easy to bang sluts. Other women, perhaps not so much?
What we call "game" today is something that has existed since ,well, people tried successfully to get laid...

[little wing]

I feel exactly the same.
AWALT....All women are like this.

[General Stalin]

So you want and seek out casual sex from women, but you don't like women who engage in casual sex? There is a paradox here.

This goes one of two ways:

1. You like to lead on "good girls" who are looking for a relationship into thinking you will stick around when you actually won't. Or...

2. You like going after girls that you think have had sex with an equal-to-or-less-than arbitrary number of dudes that you deem appropriate to not be considered a "repulsive slut"

No one here is getting defensive besides you man. Not trying to call you out, just reading your first post was extremely negative and bitter and I assure you that you would be a happier man if you didn't dwell on those things not worth dwelling on.

When I fuck a girl, I honestly couldnt care less how many other dudes she's been with. She's with me tonight. You call yourself a player but don't have a player mindset. The player doesn't shame or look down on a girl for having sex with other men before him. A player understands a girl is never his; just his turn.

[Striking]

(10-30-2017 04:13 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

So you want and seek out casual sex from women, but you don't like women who engage in casual sex? There is a paradox here.

This goes one of two ways:

1. You like to lead on "good girls" who are looking for a relationship into thinking you will stick around when you actually won't. Or...

2. You like going after girls that you think have had sex with an equal-to-or-less-than arbitrary number of dudes that you deem appropriate to not be considered a "repulsive slut"

No one here is getting defensive besides you man. Not trying to call you out, just reading your first post was extremely negative and bitter and I assure you that you would be a happier man if you didn't dwell on those things not worth dwelling on.

When I fuck a girl, I honestly couldnt care less how many other dudes she's been with. She's with me tonight. You call yourself a player but don't have a player mindset. The player doesn't shame or look down on a girl for having sex with other men before him. A player understands a girl is never his; just his turn.

I don't believe in happiness, I believe in doing the right thing. Contributing to a girl's addiction and self destruction is not my idea of that.

You do realize that casual sex with continuous new partners, while disregarding their quality, is an addiction right? For you it doesn't matter since you might be in it, but for me it does. It's a redundant activity - you're not making babies - you're not making the girl's life better - you're not making your life better since she gave it up so easily. If you're ugly enough for sluts to make it a challenge for you to sleep with them and you enjoy sex with them, then we are complete opposites and only then is our misunderstanding of each other comprehensible.

[Incubus]

You got good instincts ....good enuff to dodge a bullet.
Your not going to understand how lucky you are right now.....but give it time

There are millions of Beta's getting torn to shreds in divorce court by "sluts" that pretended to be good girls

You gambled on her you called her bluff...pat yourself on the back and take your chips to another casino

Keep reading Roosh!

[loremipsum]

Always assume she's a slut. More often than not you are correct.

Surely it can be a difficult pill to swallow but you're here for the truth not comfort right?
It is what it is. Bang sluts and hope that some day you will meet a girl who comes from a good family and is wise enough to resists the temptations of our world.

[fitness2569]

The more you worry about who she fucks the less she cares what you think and therefore goes out and fucks more guys. All my life... the guys that get the most commitment from women are the guys who couldn't care less . Aloof and indifferent is the ultimate fundamental of game

[bgbusiness]

"Accept the reality as it is, not as you want it to be."
- Jack Welch. (Former CEO of GE, net worth close to a billion, assumed to be one of the greatest CEOs in the history)

Although I understand where you are coming from, until all these beta males realize what they are doing do the girls and how they are hurting themselves in the long-run and robbing themselves, it will stay this way.
Maybe in 10~30 years, things might be different and these girls won't act like this, but until then, there isn't really nothing you can do .

Play the game or get played.

[General Stalin]

If you don't believe in happiness then you need more help than I thought.

You've come to the right place as long as you're willing to change and let the fine people of this community give you actionable advice

[H1N1]

(10-30-2017 04:28 PM)Striking Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 04:13 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

So you want and seek out casual sex from women, but you don't like women who engage in casual sex? There is a paradox here.

This goes one of two ways:

1. You like to lead on "good girls" who are looking for a relationship into thinking you will stick around when you actually won't. Or...

2. You like going after girls that you think have had sex with an equal-to-or-less-than arbitrary number of dudes that you deem appropriate to not be considered a "repulsive slut"

No one here is getting defensive besides you man. Not trying to call you out, just reading your first post was extremely negative and bitter and I assure you that you would be a happier man if you didn't dwell on those things not worth dwelling on.

When I fuck a girl, I honestly couldnt care less how many other dudes she's been with. She's with me tonight. You call yourself a player but don't have a player mindset. The player doesn't shame or look down on a girl for having sex with other men before him. A player understands a girl is never his; just his turn.

I don't believe in happiness, I believe in doing the right thing. Contributing to a girl's addiction and self destruction is not my idea of that.

You do realize that casual sex with continuous new partners, while disregarding their quality, is an addiction right? For you it doesn't matter since you might be in it, but for me it does. It's a redundant activity - you're not making babies - you're not making the girl's life better - you're not making your life better since she gave it up so easily. If you're ugly enough for sluts to make it a challenge for you to sleep with them and you enjoy sex with them, then we are complete opposites and only then is our misunderstanding of each other comprehensible.

The easiness with which it is given up has no relevance to the delightfulness of the flesh. The object itself is either worth possessing for all its sumptuous curves and delicious wetness, or it is not. Fine pussy is an end in itself.

The opportunity to be a charming seducer can be fantastic, and masterfully steering a romantic liaison to a desired conclusion can be a thrill all of its own. However, it is, in my estimation, different in kind from the simple and pure appreciation of woman as object, in and of herself.

The soft skin, the smooth curves, the features that stand out as being of particular quality, whether it's the hair, the lips, the eyes, or some intoxicating combination, the smell and the taste of her, the pinkness and the tightness and the wetness and all the possibilities for depravity that really fine pussy holds - these are entirely independent of her human qualities (or lack thereof), and can (and should) be appreciated as such.

The first moments with new pussy, the imagined and the anticipated made manifest as you first slide inside her. These are truly seconds to be savoured, and don't need to be reduced in their significance, or distracted from, by the tedium of her damn personality.

[General Stalin]

Here here. Eloquently said H1N1

[kaotic]

(10-30-2017 04:28 PM)Striking Wrote:  

I don't believe in happiness, I believe in doing the right thing. Contributing to a girl's addiction and self destruction is not my idea of that.

You do realize that casual sex with continuous new partners, while disregarding their quality, is an addiction right? For you it doesn't matter since you might be in it, but for me it does. It's a redundant activity - you're not making babies - you're not making the girl's life better - you're not making your life better since she gave it up so easily. If you're ugly enough for sluts to make it a challenge for you to sleep with them and you enjoy sex with them, then we are complete opposites and only then is our misunderstanding of each other comprehensible.

MGTOW red flags going on here.

Then stop fucking women, stop gaming, and give up.

Because like it or not, that sweet girl you're into, could've possibly went ass to mouth on an ass fucking, then got her face nutted on.

What are you gonna do ? Get a HoeFax for every girl you come up on ?

That girl you think is a "virgin" ? Possibly could be a pro with her head game or got fucked in the ass a few times - but she didn't give up her pussy, so she's still a good girl.

You will never ever be able to tell how many dudes a girl has done sexual acts with, from fingering, to sucking, to fucking.

Give up, you aren't making your life any better fucking quantity or quality women.

[Striking]

(10-30-2017 06:07 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

If you don't believe in happiness then you need more help than I thought.

You've come to the right place as long as you're willing to change and let the fine people of this community give you actionable advice

Have you not experienced the hedonic adaptation? Having experienced a lot of ecstasy in my life I can tell you that's it's always followed by a big crash of dullness, then by an adaptation, life forever being life as you know it. For us that have accomplished many of our goals early in life, the unexistence of continued happiness is easy to accept.

[Elster]

Echoing Stalin here:
How can you be a player and look down on women who play?
Aren't you being the male equivalent of a slut by "playing"?
How can you accuse the women of being addicted to sex when you claim you are a player (a person who sleeps with different partners on a regular basis)?

[Hypno]

When I was younger and I felt like this about a girl, it was really because she was a slut with other guys and not me.

Once you internalize that they are all sluts, then you realize that it is up to you to bring that out of her. That is the essence of game. Anything is possible.