[Guile]

It’s funny. As an Aussie, I’ve had so many conversations with mates about travelling and the best part is when we chat about the girls we banged. So I lived in Europe for a while and travelled there recently, and whenever I catch up with the boys, conversation always turns to: “Dude, can you believe the girls we picked up”.

And they’re right. In Europe, the girls are more approachable, they’re more feminine, and east of Germany, they’re on average, more attractive. So I get the sentiment of some of the guys here, but like I say to my friends: “We were on holiday”.

We gotta keep in mind that when we go to another country, we’re gaming far more often, we’re going out far more often, we’re exotic and we’re stress free. That does amazing things to your game because you say shit you normally wouldn’t say at home.

So me and the boys chat about the girls, and eventually the elephant in the room pops up which is: “I wish it was like that here” – And I always say, “Dude, how many girls did you bang a week in Europe” and the average is always somewhere round 2 right? So I follow up with: “If you took two weeks off work in Sydney, did day game, went out 4x per week, got numbers, and followed up: How many girls do you think you’d bang?”

And that’s the big question. As Aussie guys in Australia: We aren’t exotic. We aren’t on holidays and most of us are gaming 1-2x a week. Maybe even once a fortnight if you’re busy. Of course it’ll be tougher.

One more thing I’ll point out, because someone made a good point – Girls who are a 7.5 are rare. But only in the bars. There are plenty of 7.5’s round Sydney [Mainly the beaches], so if you wanna snag them, you gotta day game.

The thing about meeting a 7.5 in a club is that you aren’t meeting on a level playing field. They’re dolled up adding a point to their looks. They’re swarmed by thirsty dudes. They’re given princess treatment by the bouncer. They are hit on by the bartender. They’re living in a reality where they’re a celebrity and you’re a fan.

The thing is though, once this girl leaves the club and takes off her make-up, she also loses the fake reality that goes with it. That’s why day game is key. You’re meeting her in the real world.

The funny thing I found about the more attractive girls I’ve dated, is that they had very few ‘real’ friends. I mean, they had huge amounts of Facebook 'followers' but as far as real friends? Way less than most girls I knew. From my perspective, that probably explains why I have an easier time approaching an 8 on the beach than I do a 6 at the bar.

[Green-On-GO]

Here we go again ..cue all Aussie girls are shit...you need to be tall and jacked ..all Aussies are Alpha yada yada yada.
Then you see a guy like Bradicus daygame or social whatever he calls himself.Just learn game ffs and be the best you can be.No cunt ever worked to get tall you are or you are not.So I've got a big dick 8 inchers plus ...Asian chicks don't dig me but white chicks do..how come no cunt says that?

Great write up OP rep point from me inbound loved it ..only cause I agree with it.

All Aussies are not Alpha and if you are red pill you'd know how fucking blue pill most are.

Coke rules in the Sydney club scene as I have said before.The only ones really getting their dicks sucked are the doormen, the DJ and the dealers

And fuck the Fob Chinese so fucking over them here in Melbourne.They bought up the city and fucked it.There is no Euro social vibe or Anglo pub culture anymore .I'm walking past alot of closed down pubs which have been sold to build Skyscraper dogboxes.Which will be sold out but not lived in by offshore Asians.And chicks don't flock to the city to meet fob Chinese blokes so there you go...Melbourne is suffering a major quality problem now.

The beach is where it's at.

And being Italian is not a big deal @ Rossi the only accents that count is Irish Scottish English with Aussie girls.You have to be a cheeky cunt to break them down.I've met alot of UK and Aussie chicks that don't like American accents now.Sydney is also a high tourist destination so chicks have that anti tourist atittude.

[Green-On-GO]

(10-28-2017 06:36 AM)Guile Wrote:  

It’s funny. As an Aussie, I’ve had so many conversations with mates about travelling and the best part is when we chat about the girls we banged. So I lived in Europe for a while and travelled there recently, and whenever I catch up with the boys, conversation always turns to: “Dude, can you believe the girls we picked up”.

And they’re right. In Europe, the girls are more approachable, they’re more feminine, and east of Germany, they’re on average, more attractive. So I get the sentiment of some of the guys here, but like I say to my friends: “We were on holiday”.

We gotta keep in mind that when we go to another country, we’re gaming far more often, we’re going out far more often, we’re exotic and we’re stress free. That does amazing things to your game because you say shit you normally wouldn’t say at home.

So me and the boys chat about the girls, and eventually the elephant in the room pops up which is: “I wish it was like that here” – And I always say, “Dude, how many girls did you bang a week in Europe” and the average is always somewhere round 2 right? So I follow up with: “If you took two weeks off work in Sydney, did day game, went out 4x per week, got numbers, and followed up: How many girls do you think you’d bang?”

And that’s the big question. As Aussie guys in Australia: We aren’t exotic. We aren’t on holidays and most of us are gaming 1-2x a week. Maybe even once a fortnight if you’re busy. Of course it’ll be tougher.

One more thing I’ll point out, because someone made a good point – Girls who are a 7.5 are rare. But only in the bars. There are plenty of 7.5’s round Sydney [Mainly the beaches], so if you wanna snag them, you gotta day game.

The thing about meeting a 7.5 in a club is that you aren’t meeting on a level playing field. They’re dolled up adding a point to their looks. They’re swarmed by thirsty dudes. They’re given princess treatment by the bouncer. They are hit on by the bartender. They’re living in a reality where they’re a celebrity and you’re a fan.

The thing is though, once this girl leaves the club and takes off her make-up, she also loses the fake reality that goes with it. That’s why day game is key. You’re meeting her in the real world.

The funny thing I found about the more attractive girls I’ve dated, is that they had very few ‘real’ friends. I mean, they had huge amounts of Facebook 'followers' but as far as real friends? Way less than most girls I knew. From my perspective, that probably explains why I have an easier time approaching an 8 on the beach than I do a 6 at the bar.

Yeah true .
The 6 at the bar is the toughest approach for me too.Very cruel put downs as they go into auto reject.Fucking hardest set of the night I found while the good lookers are nice.

I've seen a Russian 6 run rings around a room full of Aussie 8s.The quality in Central Europe... fuck in Western Europe shits all over Australia especially in being more feminine .I find myself yearning for the femininty more than the looks.

Also when you are interstate or overseas you automatically slip into the lover mod for chicks not LTR boyfriend mod.This is the key I find stay in Lover mod when you are at home.But this will take a break down of the whore/madonna complex which guys who never had kids find harder to do.Same chick slutting it up at night is the angel walking down the street in the day..in my opinion

Daygame is cool if you have the time to set up the dates for day 2s.Same day lays do happen but same night lays happen more in night game.Plus if your lover vibe, sub comms are on in night game you actually get approached more.How many chicks approach in the day in major cities here?
I agree with Daygame in the beaches areas .I found the GC and SC are king .Noosa can be off it's tits good.Also those inner Sydney beaches and Qld have a massive tourist population.

Another thing you can play if you have a place near the beach is dangling that, usually on barstaff and hospitality workers from overseas who are staying longer term.I found I was getting hit up for this in Sydney by working holiday chicks.A sort of sugar daddy accomodation game

[Rush87]

Has anyone been to the races recently? Years ago that used to be a goldmine for picking up girls in Sydney.

[JWLZG]

(10-27-2017 08:45 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(10-26-2017 08:30 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  

The rules of game repudiation / game envy:

Blame the city.

Blame the country (your username.)

Blame the circumstances.

But never, ever blame or work on your self.

This is not in defense of Australia Sucks, but:

this idea that anyone who isn't seeing success in their own city/country is just a lamewad, needs to die.

thread-65220.html

First line of the first post in that thread:

"it's really crazy to see how much location matters when picking up girls"

Continuous improvement is great and all, but at some point you have to start considering the ROI and adjust accordingly.

On its own, that may be the case that location is indeed a factor. When it's the same chap who has abhorred French girls, Dutch girls, and Norwegian girls, and god knows what other race wholesale that he mightn't have been able to get with — any woman with white skin in general and not from Colombia in particular cops the Debbie Downer treatment — then that argument start falling apart there. LOL those aforementioned are btw some of the most sexually liberated women in the world, ergo every bit as easy as the Colombian diosas so adorada.

Even though it may be kosher to monsterise western women here on RVF, it's not really a mark of a man successful with women to feel the need to reject women of an entire race or nationality, least of all due to their character — however possible it is to generalise that — moreso than their aesthetic attraction.

(10-27-2017 10:15 PM)Savage Wrote:  

Australia Sucks, you have posted before that you're not a white guy, have you considered that could be a reason why you have different results in Australia than some others on here?

I don't think race is an issue. I've heard it said that 'Australian girls are racist' (they aren't, in general), but come on, this isn't rural India where you can literally be beaten to death for being seen with a chick not of your caste.
I've seen guys of all colours do well sexually to be able to argue this down, and it's an issue that I myself used to think about a lot. Sure there may be other factors (e.g. an Asian DJ having more sexual pull than a white call centre worker), but I doubt it's the root (pardon the pun) of his problems.

(10-27-2017 10:15 PM)Savage Wrote:  

Also you don't drink, and that is a huge part of the culture over there.

This.

And if it's not alcohol, it's coffee. The very few Australian girls I know that don't drink either, would consume another vice such as weed or other substances. Having a sanctimonious regard to both, nightlife culture, and social media (*) doesn't help much either.

After all, this is a city where thanks to Lockout Laws era, Tinder and a bottle of vodka is probably the most economical way to game.

I doubt most of us are the type to get a hard on for ad hominem attacks against another bloke online. It's really frustrating when members try to get objective advice for a city which they're moving to, or are intending to visit for a conference or function — which I am — only to get their parade pissed on by feedback that "x women all suck!"; and to find out that it's the same guy that says everywhere else in the world sucks . . . except for Colombia, a third world suckhole.

[The Catalyst]

(10-30-2017 03:41 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

(10-27-2017 10:15 PM)Savage Wrote:  

Also you don't drink, and that is a huge part of the culture over there.

This.

And if it's not alcohol, it's coffee. The very few Australian girls I know that don't drink either, would consume another vice such as weed or other substances. Having a sanctimonious regard to both, nightlife culture, and social media (*) doesn't help much either.

After all, this is a city where thanks to Lockout Laws era, Tinder and a bottle of vodka is probably the most economical way to game.

This is why I dislike Aussie/Kiwi culture so much. I'm not a teetotaler as I indulge in a wine or coffee every other fortnight to couple months but I literally have tons of better things to do than go binge drinking/"partying" and my life kinda sucks. How can they call partying fun when it's some of the most boring things ever, I literally had more fun "partying" as a kid/preteen at childhood friends birthday parties, instead of going to a bar/club with lame music that's ridiculously loud, when I can listen to good music on my own at a reasonable volume.

[Rush87]

(10-30-2017 04:46 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

This is why I dislike Aussie/Kiwi culture so much. I'm not a teetotaler as I indulge in a wine or coffee every other fortnight to couple months but I literally have tons of better things to do than go binge drinking/"partying" and my life kinda sucks. How can they call partying fun when it's some of the most boring things ever, I literally had more fun "partying" as a kid/preteen at childhood friends birthday parties, instead of going to a bar/club with lame music that's ridiculously loud, when I can listen to good music on my own at a reasonable volume.

Dude, which country doesn't drink as the number one social activity? Pretty much every social activity around the world has drinking as a staple [Middle Eastern countries excluded].

I posted in the "1 year no drinking challenge" recently, and 100% prefer to avoid alcohol but you can easily see why it's fun. It's the one break most people have from a monotonous job. There's also plenty of places which aren't 'loud bars with lame music'.

[DMario]

Anyone around Sydney? Just moved here, will be around for a year

[John5000]

Sydney is not easy, but there is top tier quality here and you need to be top tier yourself to get it.

I lived in Sydney for 28 years. In my early university days I dated white girls of average quality 6-7. Once I finished university I transitioned to dating asian fob girls exclusively for roughly 5 years, partly due to market forces (they're easier) and partly due to not having the same proximity to university aged girls (9-5 work life).

Only once I was 28, had my shit together and being in that more attractive age bracket did I start dating the aussie/native english speakers again. The thing is that aussie girls can get commitment, relationships, from guys easily. You can find a decent girl to have as your gf but you need to show stability as a long term prospect. The hot girls that aren't in relationships long term in Sydney usually have baggage/mental issues, but these girls are going to be more dtf. A decent aussie girl doesn't need to pursue hookups because she can get a relationship/LTR easily.

High quality top tier talent is almost always locked down in a LTR with a local aussie guy. When they break up it doesn't take them long to get locked down into another LTR. They're in high demand and men here are willing to LTR them up. But there are small windows where you can lock them down if you yourself have your shit put together.

You can come to Sydney for 3 weeks and probably hook up with a fob or european backpacker, sure. If you want to get a quality hot aussie girl you need to invest more time here, at least a year and show that you're putting roots down.

[Kimber]

(10-28-2017 06:36 AM)Guile Wrote:  

It’s funny. As an Aussie, I’ve had so many conversations with mates about travelling and the best part is when we chat about the girls we banged. So I lived in Europe for a while and travelled there recently, and whenever I catch up with the boys, conversation always turns to: “Dude, can you believe the girls we picked up”.

And they’re right. In Europe, the girls are more approachable, they’re more feminine, and east of Germany, they’re on average, more attractive. So I get the sentiment of some of the guys here, but like I say to my friends: “We were on holiday”.

We gotta keep in mind that when we go to another country, we’re gaming far more often, we’re going out far more often, we’re exotic and we’re stress free. That does amazing things to your game because you say shit you normally wouldn’t say at home.

So me and the boys chat about the girls, and eventually the elephant in the room pops up which is: “I wish it was like that here” – And I always say, “Dude, how many girls did you bang a week in Europe” and the average is always somewhere round 2 right? So I follow up with: “If you took two weeks off work in Sydney, did day game, went out 4x per week, got numbers, and followed up: How many girls do you think you’d bang?”

And that’s the big question. As Aussie guys in Australia: We aren’t exotic. We aren’t on holidays and most of us are gaming 1-2x a week. Maybe even once a fortnight if you’re busy. Of course it’ll be tougher.

One more thing I’ll point out, because someone made a good point – Girls who are a 7.5 are rare. But only in the bars. There are plenty of 7.5’s round Sydney [Mainly the beaches], so if you wanna snag them, you gotta day game.

The thing about meeting a 7.5 in a club is that you aren’t meeting on a level playing field. They’re dolled up adding a point to their looks. They’re swarmed by thirsty dudes. They’re given princess treatment by the bouncer. They are hit on by the bartender. They’re living in a reality where they’re a celebrity and you’re a fan.

The thing is though, once this girl leaves the club and takes off her make-up, she also loses the fake reality that goes with it. That’s why day game is key. You’re meeting her in the real world.

The funny thing I found about the more attractive girls I’ve dated, is that they had very few ‘real’ friends. I mean, they had huge amounts of Facebook 'followers' but as far as real friends? Way less than most girls I knew. From my perspective, that probably explains why I have an easier time approaching an 8 on the beach than I do a 6 at the bar.

yo guile, can you PM me. I got a couple of questions for you as a native Sydneysider.

[DMario]

Been in Sydney for about 2 months now. One thing I will say is the women here are not as bad looking as I would've though from reading on the forum. I live in the North Sydney business district and I see cuties walking down my street everyday, they're generally pretty friendly. I've already had to deal with one stalker though.

Nightgame here is pretty much a waste of time. Usually when I go out, I go just to have a good time and enjoy myself but I cant really do that here. I feel like in Sydney is anti-fun. No shots allowed after 12am, and expect to pay around $20aud for a drink that barely has a half oz of liquor and full to the brim with soda. Bottle Service will also run your bank account dry pretty fast as well. I paid $550aud for a table and a shitty bottle of Bondi Blue vodka. Also since I've been here I only met one girl that lives closer than a hour away from me so far

To combat this, I started going to Boat parties and day parties on Saturday afternoons. There are plenty of them leaving from Darling Harbour every weekend. Atmosphere is usually more conducive of meeting women. If you're into black/island girls a good day party to hit is HomebaseSundaze. It's on the second Sunday of every month. Im not really into white girls (I'm in the wrong country I know) so this has been my bread and butter along with a few other events.

Sydney is very multiracial though, and besides nightlife I feel it has something for everyone, once you do the proper planning. I wouldn't just expect to show up here and expect to kill it, which has been said over and over. That being said, if you're African-American and into White girls, you can kill it here very easily. The women here are very upfront about it, and I get a lot of propositions every time I go out

[JekyllAndHyde]

(03-11-2019 06:33 AM)DMario Wrote:  

Been in Sydney for about 2 months now. One thing I will say is the women here are not as bad looking as I would've though from reading on the forum. I live in the North Sydney business district and I see cuties walking down my street everyday, they're generally pretty friendly. I've already had to deal with one stalker though.

Nightgame here is pretty much a waste of time. Usually when I go out, I go just to have a good time and enjoy myself but I cant really do that here. I feel like in Sydney is anti-fun. No shots allowed after 12am, and expect to pay around $20aud for a drink that barely has a half oz of liquor and full to the brim with soda. Bottle Service will also run your bank account dry pretty fast as well. I paid $550aud for a table and a shitty bottle of Bondi Blue vodka. Also since I've been here I only met one girl that lives closer than a hour away from me so far

To combat this, I started going to Boat parties and day parties on Saturday afternoons. There are plenty of them leaving from Darling Harbour every weekend. Atmosphere is usually more conducive of meeting women. If you're into black/island girls a good day party to hit is HomebaseSundaze. It's on the second Sunday of every month. Im not really into white girls (I'm in the wrong country I know) so this has been my bread and butter along with a few other events.

Sydney is very multiracial though, and besides nightlife I feel it has something for everyone, once you do the proper planning. I wouldn't just expect to show up here and expect to kill it, which has been said over and over. That being said, if you're African-American and into White girls, you can kill it here very easily. The women here are very upfront about it, and I get a lot of propositions every time I go out

Sydney is pretty sprawled out so if you want to continue living there long term pick an area like say the Shire, Newtown or some other area that best fits you and your vibe.

A venue one night is great for girls and another night in the same venue it's going to suck balls.
But you have venues that are always a waste of time like The Establishment in Sydney CBD where they will slug you at least 35 bucks for entry and even more expensive drinks. Then there are a fuckload of private tables of closed social circles when there are far better venues around the city without that bullshit.

The lockout laws has redistributed some of the nightlife outside of Sydney CBD as after 2am you can't re-enter any venue once you leave any venue within that zone.
It makes the search to find consistently good venues much harder.
If you're looking for a more fun night out to try and get girls in Australia and can still move city I recommend Melbourne CBD and Fortitude Valley in Brisbane as alternatives.

Being served a stingy amount of alcohol then have the rest full of filler soft drink for 20 bucks is the norm here.
Everywhere else around the world they'll pour a lot more shots.
Just pre-drink with friends if you can.

Sydney is kind of multiracial but not as multiracial as London.

[Mentavious]

Is it true Sydney will soon allow business to stay open longer? Potential until 6/7am?

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/austra...-nightlife

On a side note, I had a great time in Brisbane a couple of years ago. Aussie women were very nice and there were lots of girls transiting to the beaches. Both led for some east lays.