[Diddylisch]

(10-29-2017 10:19 PM)Duke Main Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 08:05 PM)Akwesi Wrote:  

I've actually considered the category of high quality widows. That seems like one of the few ways to find someone who hasn't been ruined by the carousel or bitter spinsterhood. Perhaps there's a business opportunity for widowcupid.com

Duke,

I like you live in Vegas. Great jumping off point for a guy in the Airline industry and other factors, but we both know it is atrocious as a home dating city. Pros everywhere, baby mamas with multiple daddy's, highly transient. Ugh.

[Super_Fire]

(10-29-2017 10:19 PM)Duke Main Wrote:  

(10-29-2017 08:05 PM)Akwesi Wrote:  

I agree that women who are childless past 30-35 should be viewed with extreme suspicion. However, there are some possible exceptions. Personally I've met some great older girls who married older men at an early age and then became widows after a few years. Then there's of course also women who are infertile for some reason but may otherwise be high quality. Let's not make it a false choice between skanky soon-to-be grannies and runaway Ursuline nuns.

I've actually considered the category of high quality widows. That seems like one of the few ways to find someone who hasn't been ruined by the carousel or bitter spinsterhood. Perhaps there's a business opportunity for widowcupid.com

widowshopping.com, IMO.

[dfw1]

To the OP... Any update on the city you selected and did you step up your day game?

[Duke Main]

(04-21-2018 10:34 AM)dfw1 Wrote:  

To the OP... Any update on the city you selected and did you step up your day game?

Leaning toward BOG. SJO would be more convenient but not as favorable in other ways. Another option I've considered is traveling to the Philippines instead, less frequently but longer trips. I don't day game in the US.

[Bain]

OP, what about the InterPal site you signed up and was was good. Any success on that or is it also a waist?
https://www.interpals.net/

[Duke Main]

I'm actually casually pipelining from interpals for my upcoming trip to Thailand. I'm chatting with a few ladies, so we shall see.

[Duke Main]

So maybe I should update this thread. I focused on Thailand a bit this year, 2 trips, mostly in N Thailand.

On interpals I met a great girl who's not interested in me romantically but she took me sightseeing all over the place in Chang Rai and we had a good time.

I met a nice girl from Udon Thani on DateinAsia. She can't speak english but she was able to use google translate to ask for money. And she didn't give up the bootie, so pretty much a bust.

Overall I was kind of discouraged but I regrouped and decided to use DateinAsia and go to the Philippines. I basically searched age 25-40 with kids already anywhere in the Phils. I compiled a nice list of prospects and made travel plans according to where my favorites lived.

My first stop was Manila of course. There was a girl (29) from the province who I wasn't terribly interested in, but she happened to be in town, so we met up. I could tell by her body language that she was up for about anything, but I wasn't feeling the same so we said our polite goodbyes.

Next was Davao. The girl (32) there was not as attractive as her photos, but we had a nice lunch, then went back to my room to close the deal. I didn't really want to, but she made it too easy. We met up again the next day and by this time I can't explain it, but I couldn't stand to look at her or talk to her. I kind of snuck out of town the next day so I wouldn't have to see her again.

On to Cagayan de Oro. There was a girl there (34) I really wanted to meet but she blew me off. Oh well. Wasted a couple days there then to Cebu.

I could have met 5 or 6 ladies from my list in Cebu, but I had no energy. I met the one I thought was the best prospect (34) and she flirted and showed plenty of interest but resisted my charms. I'm pretty sure she just didn't want to do it on the first date to maintain the good girl badge. So I met up with her the next day and it was a done deal.

Next was Catarman. A sleepy little city/town in Samar. The girl I met there (27) is very cute and sweet and simple (mostly in a good way) and her family is fairly prominent in the community. She was super affectionate but made it clear that sex would be tantamount to a marriage proposal. We did EVERYTHING except...And her sisters would call her constantly (guarding her virtue) whenever she was alone with me. I really enjoyed my time with her but I can't see a future.

Right now I'm in Manila just waiting to go home. I met a tinder match today (30). Tall, thin, very pretty, nice to talk to, just lacking that certain I don't know what. We had lunch, walked and talked, toured the condos she reps, hugged warmly at the train station as we parted. I'll stay in touch with her.

So, I consider this trip a big success, especially compared to my last trips to the Philippines and Thailand. I think the biggest factors were: DateinAsia was really good to me in the Phils, plenty of good matches. I didn't shy away from mentioning that I'm a pilot. I didn't limit my search geographically. I think that was my biggest mistake the last few times. Go where the matches lead you. And I searched for ladies with kids. As an older divorced guy I shouldn't have more kids even if I wanted to, but I don't think I'd like a lady who doesn't like or want kids, if that makes sense.

I think early next year I'll try Thailand again casting my net wider. I'll use thaicupid, thaifriendly, dateinasia, tinder and any others you might suggest. Then I'll hop around the country and see what happens.

Ultimately, I still don't like online dating. I'd much prefer to go to Davao, for example, for a few months and establish a nice social circle and get introduced to high quaility ladies. And I'll be able to do that when I retire in 2 or 3 years. But for now, hopefully I've found a formula that will work well enough.

[Savonarola]

(10-20-2017 12:08 AM)Duke Main Wrote:  

Las Vegas ---> Guadalajara
Las Vegas ---> Panama City
Houston ---> Bogota
Houston ---> Lima
Orlando ---> Santo Domingo

Again, I want to be an "almost" resident of the selected city; spending more or less one week a month living like a local. I think I forgot to mention I'm a white guy with decent/rusty Spanish. Once I get used to local slang and accents communication will be no problema.

Go with Bogota. Advantages:
1)It's got 9 million people (at least a million datable women)
2)It's a major airline hub
3) It's cosmopolitan and sophisticated (more English here than anywhere else)
4) The Spanish is very clear and comprehensible. (Go to Cartagena for contrast.)
5) Your skin is white (high gringo value in Colombia)
6) Your age is high.

Dating 20 years younger is very, very common in Colombia, and you should be able to pull a 30s hottie without too much trouble at all.

Get your Spanish up to intermediate, and you should be good to go.

Drawbacks: Bogota is overcast and somewhat cold and has high altitude. I actually like that weather, but many people prefer the heat and sun. Also, I wouldn't invest in real estate there, but there is a plethora of very good Airbnb's around Zona T.

[ManOfTheTimes]

(11-05-2018 01:26 PM)Savonarola Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 12:08 AM)Duke Main Wrote:  

Las Vegas ---> Guadalajara
Las Vegas ---> Panama City
Houston ---> Bogota
Houston ---> Lima
Orlando ---> Santo Domingo

Again, I want to be an "almost" resident of the selected city; spending more or less one week a month living like a local. I think I forgot to mention I'm a white guy with decent/rusty Spanish. Once I get used to local slang and accents communication will be no problema.

Go with Bogota. Advantages:
1)It's got 9 million people (at least a million datable women)
2)It's a major airline hub
3) It's cosmopolitan and sophisticated (more English here than anywhere else)
4) The Spanish is very clear and comprehensible. (Go to Cartagena for contrast.)
5) Your skin is white (high gringo value in Colombia)
6) Your age is high.

Dating 20 years younger is very, very common in Colombia, and you should be able to pull a 30s hottie without too much trouble at all.

Get your Spanish up to intermediate, and you should be good to go.

Drawbacks: Bogota is overcast and somewhat cold and has high altitude. I actually like that weather, but many people prefer the heat and sun. Also, I wouldn't invest in real estate there, but there is a plethora of very good Airbnb's around Zona T.

100% agree with Sr. Savonarola. I'm in Medellín right now and you might be shocked how easy it is to find mid-range women in their 20s (and older if you must) to date running Boyfriend/Provider Game for men our age (I'm 50). Obviously, the stronger your Spanish is, the better experiences you will have.

Two areas you should probably have on lockdown before you start more seriously dealing with savvy Latinas:

1. Make sure you are not the type of man to be taken advantage of easily. You will likely be a target for a world of hurt if you are.
2. Don't hesitate to carry yourself and relate to women fronting a heavy sensual (as in you're sexy and you know it) vibe.

[Duke Main]

(11-05-2018 04:55 PM)ManOfTheTimes Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 01:26 PM)Savonarola Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 12:08 AM)Duke Main Wrote:  

Las Vegas ---> Guadalajara
Las Vegas ---> Panama City
Houston ---> Bogota
Houston ---> Lima
Orlando ---> Santo Domingo

Again, I want to be an "almost" resident of the selected city; spending more or less one week a month living like a local. I think I forgot to mention I'm a white guy with decent/rusty Spanish. Once I get used to local slang and accents communication will be no problema.

Go with Bogota. Advantages:
1)It's got 9 million people (at least a million datable women)
2)It's a major airline hub
3) It's cosmopolitan and sophisticated (more English here than anywhere else)
4) The Spanish is very clear and comprehensible. (Go to Cartagena for contrast.)
5) Your skin is white (high gringo value in Colombia)
6) Your age is high.

Dating 20 years younger is very, very common in Colombia, and you should be able to pull a 30s hottie without too much trouble at all.

Get your Spanish up to intermediate, and you should be good to go.

Drawbacks: Bogota is overcast and somewhat cold and has high altitude. I actually like that weather, but many people prefer the heat and sun. Also, I wouldn't invest in real estate there, but there is a plethora of very good Airbnb's around Zona T.

100% agree with Sr. Savonarola. I'm in Medellín right now and you might be shocked how easy it is to find mid-range women in their 20s (and older if you must) to date running Boyfriend/Provider Game for men our age (I'm 50). Obviously, the stronger your Spanish is, the better experiences you will have.

Two areas you should probably have on lockdown before you start more seriously dealing with savvy Latinas:

1. Make sure you are not the type of man to be taken advantage of easily. You will likely be a target for a world of hurt if you are.
2. Don't hesitate to carry yourself and relate to women fronting a heavy sensual (as in you're sexy and you know it) vibe.

How much longer will you stay in Medellin? I'm planning to look around Guatapé and El Peñol in the next couple of months. Thanks for the feedback.

[Shimmy]

(11-05-2018 04:55 PM)ManOfTheTimes Wrote:  

100% agree with Sr. Savonarola. I'm in Medellín right now and you might be shocked how easy it is to find mid-range women in their 20s (and older if you must) to date running Boyfriend/Provider Game for men our age (I'm 50). Obviously, the stronger your Spanish is, the better experiences you will have.

Two areas you should probably have on lockdown before you start more seriously dealing with savvy Latinas:

1. Make sure you are not the type of man to be taken advantage of easily. You will likely be a target for a world of hurt if you are.
2. Don't hesitate to carry yourself and relate to women fronting a heavy sensual (as in you're sexy and you know it) vibe.

I 100% agree on both counts, meeting a wife in Colombia is going to be 100x better than the Philippines if you're willing to do some heavy screening. Reading his recent report about not putting up with any BS from the filipinas I think he would do just fine in Colombia as he seems to be willing to put in the work. There are tons of girls in Colombia who will pull some shit on you if they can, but they are not girls with game like you would experience in Russia or Ukraine and it's easy to see through it. Most girls who would not make wife materials can't go 2 or 3 dates without asking to borrow money.

[sittinpretty2020]

no offense, but it doesn't sound like your last trip was too fruitful and yielded anything good. which i find surprising.

you say you targeted women over 25-30. was there a reason for that, or did you do that intentionally? did younger filipinas discriminate against you, even in the provinces? if so that's pretty shocking

[Duke Main]

(11-06-2018 03:27 AM)sittinpretty2020 Wrote:  

no offense, but it doesn't sound like your last trip was too fruitful and yielded anything good. which i find surprising.

you say you targeted women over 25-30. was there a reason for that, or did you do that intentionally? did younger filipinas discriminate against you, even in the provinces? if so that's pretty shocking

In order to respond to your first paragraph I'll need to know what you mean by "fruitful" and "good." Did I find my one true love on this trip? No. I'd still call it "good."

My reason for targeting women who already have children is that I'm 57 and won't be having more children, but I'm not interested in a woman who's not maternal and nurturing. Also, I've been divorced twice which is shocking to many conservative Filipinas (and to me sometimes) and a woman who has made a couple of bad choices and is in the process of correcting her course in life will be more forgiving of my errors in judgement.

[Duke.33]

Makes complete sense, a woman with kids and 30 would be more understanding and responsible. He's 57 he's not looking to shack up with an 18 year old who watches SpongeBob all day.

[kazz]

DM, Seems your in a hard position for LTR's with the pilot thing attracting the wrong type of girls, I tell girls that I work at Mc Donalds and stuff to shit test them lol. To the pinays credit not one of them has been bothered by it. When I was in Latin America I had a few girls stop talking to me right there and then, it was hilarious. On the other hand I think you could kill it with just having some fun; talk up the Pilot thing, as humbly as possible. Drop a little "Yeah I just got off a red eye from LAX last night and Im only in town for a week before a long haul back to JFC." Or how ever you guys talk

I have been using FC on and of for a while, my trip to Phills keeps getting pushed back due to work which is pretty annoying.
The way they talk took some getting used to at first, they seem incredibly naive, I imagine its going to be a shock when I get there but thats what I love about going to places I have never been before.
Seems to be alot of catfish though, when I get them on skype, Its quite shocking how they get themselves to look so good on profiles,
that said I have talked to some quality girls, but shot myself in the foot as I am chatting to so many and they cottoned on.

[zamfir112]

online dating is not even working for me in the west anymore.and im young good looking and fit all the criteria.do daygame instead.dont be trapped on tinder.Roosh already explained why online dating is dead and should not be your main way of meeting girls

[Davoer]

Even dateinasia was very good before but now it's quite dead and miserable

[Savonarola]

(11-05-2018 04:55 PM)ManOfTheTimes Wrote:  

Two areas you should probably have on lockdown before you start more seriously dealing with savvy Latinas:

1. Make sure you are not the type of man to be taken advantage of easily. You will likely be a target for a world of hurt if you are.
2. Don't hesitate to carry yourself and relate to women fronting a heavy sensual (as in you're sexy and you know it) vibe.

Cosigned.
1. There are a lot of scheming women in Colombia, but most of them aren't very bright. You can see their games coming.
2. You can never be too masculine in Colombia. Note: That does NOT mean cursing and acting violent and making snarky negative comments. The women really don't like any of that, and in fact are expecting a classier level of masculinity.

[Jefferson]

I'm a bit confused, Duke. I thought you recently went to the Phil and met 5 women, all of them slim and pretty and one as young as 29?

They were all from DIA. So why do you say the online dating is not working for you?

One other thing, in your Filipina experience thread, thanks for reviving that, you said you would not go back to non-Filipina women after you've been to Philippines.

You recently again went to Philippines. So why travel to Latin America, and not try to reside in or near Phil?

Did the marriage experience cause you a complete taste reversal? It didn't seem like it since you went to Phil recently.

[ManOfTheTimes]

(11-05-2018 11:20 PM)Duke Main Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 04:55 PM)ManOfTheTimes Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 01:26 PM)Savonarola Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 12:08 AM)Duke Main Wrote:  

Las Vegas ---> Guadalajara
Las Vegas ---> Panama City
Houston ---> Bogota
Houston ---> Lima
Orlando ---> Santo Domingo

Again, I want to be an "almost" resident of the selected city; spending more or less one week a month living like a local. I think I forgot to mention I'm a white guy with decent/rusty Spanish. Once I get used to local slang and accents communication will be no problema.

Go with Bogota. Advantages:
1)It's got 9 million people (at least a million datable women)
2)It's a major airline hub
3) It's cosmopolitan and sophisticated (more English here than anywhere else)
4) The Spanish is very clear and comprehensible. (Go to Cartagena for contrast.)
5) Your skin is white (high gringo value in Colombia)
6) Your age is high.

Dating 20 years younger is very, very common in Colombia, and you should be able to pull a 30s hottie without too much trouble at all.

Get your Spanish up to intermediate, and you should be good to go.

Drawbacks: Bogota is overcast and somewhat cold and has high altitude. I actually like that weather, but many people prefer the heat and sun. Also, I wouldn't invest in real estate there, but there is a plethora of very good Airbnb's around Zona T.

100% agree with Sr. Savonarola. I'm in Medellín right now and you might be shocked how easy it is to find mid-range women in their 20s (and older if you must) to date running Boyfriend/Provider Game for men our age (I'm 50). Obviously, the stronger your Spanish is, the better experiences you will have.

Two areas you should probably have on lockdown before you start more seriously dealing with savvy Latinas:

1. Make sure you are not the type of man to be taken advantage of easily. You will likely be a target for a world of hurt if you are.
2. Don't hesitate to carry yourself and relate to women fronting a heavy sensual (as in you're sexy and you know it) vibe.

How much longer will you stay in Medellin? I'm planning to look around Guatapé and El Peñol in the next couple of months. Thanks for the feedback.

I'm here until Monday, then back to DC for the final push before I hang up the suit and tie at the end of the year. The working plan is to come back here for 3-6 months starting in March. Hopefully I can hold out that long before I come back.

Heading out to Guatapé will be more fun with a local chica. Try to set that up if you can. Shouldn't be hard to find someone to take.

[ManOfTheTimes]

(11-05-2018 11:35 PM)Shimmy Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 04:55 PM)ManOfTheTimes Wrote:  

100% agree with Sr. Savonarola. I'm in Medellín right now and you might be shocked how easy it is to find mid-range women in their 20s (and older if you must) to date running Boyfriend/Provider Game for men our age (I'm 50). Obviously, the stronger your Spanish is, the better experiences you will have.

Two areas you should probably have on lockdown before you start more seriously dealing with savvy Latinas:

1. Make sure you are not the type of man to be taken advantage of easily. You will likely be a target for a world of hurt if you are.
2. Don't hesitate to carry yourself and relate to women fronting a heavy sensual (as in you're sexy and you know it) vibe.

I 100% agree on both counts, meeting a wife in Colombia is going to be 100x better than the Philippines if you're willing to do some heavy screening. Reading his recent report about not putting up with any BS from the filipinas I think he would do just fine in Colombia as he seems to be willing to put in the work. There are tons of girls in Colombia who will pull some shit on you if they can, but they are not girls with game like you would experience in Russia or Ukraine and it's easy to see through it. Most girls who would not make wife materials can't go 2 or 3 dates without asking to borrow money.

Are we dating the same Paisas?! Haha. My experience to the letter.

[ManOfTheTimes]

(11-06-2018 03:56 AM)Duke Main Wrote:  

(11-06-2018 03:27 AM)sittinpretty2020 Wrote:  

no offense, but it doesn't sound like your last trip was too fruitful and yielded anything good. which i find surprising.

you say you targeted women over 25-30. was there a reason for that, or did you do that intentionally? did younger filipinas discriminate against you, even in the provinces? if so that's pretty shocking

In order to respond to your first paragraph I'll need to know what you mean by "fruitful" and "good." Did I find my one true love on this trip? No. I'd still call it "good."

My reason for targeting women who already have children is that I'm 57 and won't be having more children, but I'm not interested in a woman who's not maternal and nurturing. Also, I've been divorced twice which is shocking to many conservative Filipinas (and to me sometimes) and a woman who has made a couple of bad choices and is in the process of correcting her course in life will be more forgiving of my errors in judgement.

Humble observation and suggestion if I may:

1. I wouldn't consider marrying a western woman and then getting a divorce your mistake necessarily. Odds are she sucked (and not in the good way) as a wife. If some foreign woman asked why it didn't work out, I wouldn't say much more than "You know what the stereotypical American woman is like right?". Odds are, she knows. And, yes, I say that kind of stuff if some chica asks.

2. The knowledge that a woman is aging out around 25 is a real thing with non-clueless women here in Colombia. Had that conversation with a 24 year old this week. You could clean up in the 25+ range with decent game.

3. There are some, but quality dudes do not grow on trees here. However, it seems like there is a sexy woman factory somewhere in the Coffee Triangle. Don't sell yourself short either. A not insignificant amount of reasonably attractive women would be thrilled to live a US-level middle class lifestyle with a quality dude who treats her well and doesn't have too many mistresses. Yes, the market is that favorable to men here.

4. Masculine and feminine polarity is alive and well here, for the most part. It's a stark contrast to what you may find in most western countries.

That should get you started as a primer before you move forward on your trip.

[Shimmy]

(11-07-2018 08:02 PM)ManOfTheTimes Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 11:35 PM)Shimmy Wrote:  

(11-05-2018 04:55 PM)ManOfTheTimes Wrote:  

100% agree with Sr. Savonarola. I'm in Medellín right now and you might be shocked how easy it is to find mid-range women in their 20s (and older if you must) to date running Boyfriend/Provider Game for men our age (I'm 50). Obviously, the stronger your Spanish is, the better experiences you will have.

Two areas you should probably have on lockdown before you start more seriously dealing with savvy Latinas:

1. Make sure you are not the type of man to be taken advantage of easily. You will likely be a target for a world of hurt if you are.
2. Don't hesitate to carry yourself and relate to women fronting a heavy sensual (as in you're sexy and you know it) vibe.

I 100% agree on both counts, meeting a wife in Colombia is going to be 100x better than the Philippines if you're willing to do some heavy screening. Reading his recent report about not putting up with any BS from the filipinas I think he would do just fine in Colombia as he seems to be willing to put in the work. There are tons of girls in Colombia who will pull some shit on you if they can, but they are not girls with game like you would experience in Russia or Ukraine and it's easy to see through it. Most girls who would not make wife materials can't go 2 or 3 dates without asking to borrow money.

Are we dating the same Paisas?! Haha. My experience to the letter.

I'm in Bogota, but I find Colombian women to be similar with the exception to ones who lived abroad. I've met a few that lived abroad who are really smart and come from great families and are great. The rest I've met who lived abroad have the same cunty attitudes as the lower end of western women. I'm not sure what the difference is exactly, I think American men are to blame with their beta white knighting and throwing themselves at women.

[Duke Main]

(11-07-2018 04:41 PM)Jefferson Wrote:  

I'm a bit confused, Duke. I thought you recently went to the Phil and met 5 women, all of them slim and pretty and one as young as 29?

They were all from DIA. So why do you say the online dating is not working for you?

One other thing, in your Filipina experience thread, thanks for reviving that, you said you would not go back to non-Filipina women after you've been to Philippines.

You recently again went to Philippines. So why travel to Latin America, and not try to reside in or near Phil?

Did the marriage experience cause you a complete taste reversal? It didn't seem like it since you went to Phil recently.

I started this thread about a year ago and had no online success over the previous year, so I was discouraged about it. This trip has been great and I've been able to analyze a bit why things weren't working before. First of all I wasn't fully aware of how shitty my attitude was and how I was projecting that bad vibe. The other things I fixed: I sorted for already having a kid and I covered the whole country instead of focusing on one city. Then I hopped around the country to where the matches took me.

I won't necessarily limit myself to Filipinas, but a lot of them have a combination of features that really work for me. For the time being, until I retire, I'm tied to the western hemisphere so I'll be checking out Colombia and possibly a few other places. And even if I find that perfect Filipina I wouldn't want to live in the Philippines long term, so the quest for my ideal situation continues.

[kazz]

What is it about Philippinas that makes you seem to favor them?