[CJ_W]

It's better to actually live there
. Roppongi. . yeah its pretty big, but Its better to go there with dates if you life nearby as there are a LOT of cool small bars around there that are perfect for dates.

There are some cool clubs there too. . .sometimes. For clubbing though I found it better to just go to Shibuya. A-life got shut down and its owner arrested, Muse got too cock-heavy for me, and Warehouse closed recently. flower is still cool. . .if you know the organizers to the events there(they hook you up a lot of the times if you're cool) theres a couple of smaller clubs there that I pulled from that I Dont remember the names of anymore as I only went there a few times.

With clubbing, you just have to find your niche. find clubs where the girls are into you and you'll have fun there. There are a LOT of clubs there (even with the club scene there being crap because of. . .well a lot of things I wont get into here) but even though the clubs really aren't that great you can still pull if you: a) go early b)find your niche club. Theres a club called Camelot in Shibuya, its been there for a few years, and when I went there it had just opened up and gave a HUGE discount for people that were foreigners (I have no idea why) I think I pretty much paid about 15 bucks entry and got tokens for two free drinks! It was awesome, for some reason I really didn't have to run much game, the way the clubs was situated pretty much allowed me to pull every time I went there.

I remember going there one Halloween, and met this chick that had the words "fuck me" written on her stomach so I asked her "do you know what that means"? and she said "Yes, please fuck me"!

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So that's what I did.

anyway for some reason they changed the way the club was on the interior/music/dj etc. . . and just by doing that it pretty much fucked a lot of stuff up it seemed and it no longer was my niche anymore

So I just went to other clubs until I found one.

Thing is though. . . .yes I do speak the language. Not like business fluent, but I can carry a decent enough conversation to have a date though. You can get women in Tokyo pretty easily (in comparison to. . .L.A.) you just have to explore more. but really, you can just be a regular at any decent bar. . .even in ikebukuro (which isn't really that bad tbh There were a couple HUB bars near the station that I went to and pulled from.)

but yeah, its actually better to live there and know the language . . .which isn't really that hard as you hear it everywhere, do a little studying, go out, meet people. and eventually you'll just start understanding shit,. . .then you'll start speaking it.

And yeah the logistics are so good there. . .While yeah you can have crap nights, there is absolutely no excuse to have bad logistics in Tokyo. . .like really, there should be no excuse. I lived all over the place there and even in places that are about 40-50 minutes from major cities, and I STILL called girls over to drink at a bar near my place and had them come over for a bang. I [pretty much lived in a lot of the major areas and some minor areas in and around Tokyo. Got bangs in each location, so yeah, no excuse for that at all.

(09-27-2013 04:34 AM)AsiaBaller Wrote:  

(09-27-2013 03:51 AM)Laner Wrote:  

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Can you pull in one of the Roppongi clubs with some lame Top40s music and western tourists looking for Japanese pussy? Sure.

Roppongi is huge. This statement is lacking and is what most people "think" about the place. As I said, I am not a huge fan, but to write the place off is foolish.

It's mainly concentrated on a tiny area next to Roppongi crossing, calling it huge would be a stretch, but maybe I'm missing something.

(09-27-2013 03:51 AM)Laner Wrote:  

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If you're location independent and not some Japanese workaholic you'll quickly find that Tokyo is really boring if shopping all day every day is not your idea of having a good time and the language barrier is just too big.

Really? Come on. If Tokyo is boring then you need to drop some intel on where to go. I am losing you here.

I personally like any major south east asian cities more than Tokyo, but that's just my personal preference.

(09-27-2013 03:51 AM)Laner Wrote:  

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There are no cool lounges, all the foreigner friendly somewhat larger bars are crap and the clubbing scene is dying.

I am not sure even how to respond to this. We are obviously spending time in different places. Every city/night/club has hits and misses, but in Tokyo there is no reason to have a "crap" night. Just "crap" logistics and intel.

I'm not really interested in getting into an argument with you, just posting my POV. I spend 3 months there over the years and would say my intel regarding night life has always been solid and I tried lots of clubs and bars.

[Quintus Curtius]

(09-27-2013 03:51 AM)Laner Wrote:  

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Can you pull in one of the Roppongi clubs with some lame Top40s music and western tourists looking for Japanese pussy? Sure.

Roppongi is huge. This statement is lacking and is what most people "think" about the place. As I said, I am not a huge fan, but to write the place off is foolish.

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If you're location independent and not some Japanese workaholic you'll quickly find that Tokyo is really boring if shopping all day every day is not your idea of having a good time and the language barrier is just too big.

Really? Come on. If Tokyo is boring then you need to drop some intel on where to go. I am losing you here.

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There are no cool lounges, all the foreigner friendly somewhat larger bars are crap and the clubbing scene is dying.

I am not sure even how to respond to this. We are obviously spending time in different places. Every city/night/club has hits and misses, but in Tokyo there is no reason to have a "crap" night. Just "crap" logistics and intel.

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Laner:
I'm really glad to have read your post, because your opinions and experiences pretty much what mine have been over the past 15 years or so in Tokyo, visiting off and on.

Yeah, Roppongi Hills has really arrived into its own with the lounges and what not. Always something going on, always an electric feel in the air. I guess everyone has his own preferences.

Back in the 90s Roppingi was a bit different, a little grittier and more of a foreigner enclave. Still is, of course, but it seems like the crowd is a bit more inclusive than it used to be. That's a good thing. Some of the street punk "chimpira" types have also seem to have moved on.
In Japan I've always favored day game/public places. For some reason it's just much easier there than anywhere else I've been to. You mentioned the Starbucks chicks just sitting there for hours nursing a coffee, waiting for someone to approach. That has been exactly my experience.

And yes, so true about overgrown bush being a big cultural thing with Japanese girls. If you think it's a problem on the mainland, I can tell you it's even worse on Okinawa, who are a more hairy people. I've nearly choked a few times.
And some girls are really self-conscious about the box. The only time I have ever had a girl insist that I do not lick her snatch was in Japan, and that was because she felt "ashamed" to be gone down on. Had never had that reaction before...
There are ways of wearing her resistance down on this issue, and if anyone's interested I can share my ideas.
But yeah, the girls are very self-conscious about "o manko". It's a cultural thing...you'll notice that even in Japanese manga comics, the artists will avoid depicting genitalia.
On the other side, the good side, Japanese girls are second to none in showing enthusiasm for giving head. They never refuse, and will usually swallow if you insist.

[Laner]

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I'm not really interested in getting into an argument with you, just posting my POV. I spend 3 months there over the years and would say my intel regarding night life has always been solid and I tried lots of clubs and bars.

Maybe not, but then you have to back up some of these blanket statements with solid info.

I get it, you like other cities better. But saying things like:

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It's mainly concentrated on a tiny area next to Roppongi crossing, calling it huge would be a stretch, but maybe I'm missing something.

is misleading.

You seem to know the city well enough, lets try putting some of your experience and knowledge down on paper. It could be useful, you know?

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Theres a club called Camelot in Shibuya, its been there for a few years, and when I went there it had just opened up and gave a HUGE discount for people that were foreigners (I have no idea why) I think I pretty much paid about 15 bucks entry and got tokens for two free drinks! It was awesome, for some reason I really didn't have to run much game, the way the clubs was situated pretty much allowed me to pull every time I went there.

Camelot was gold. One of the easier places to pull in Shibuya, though when I was there in 2011, the night that I was there, it was just OK. A friend took me to another place, on the same street, up a tiny staircase, to an awesome little spot. He knows I like stewardesses and this was a place they were frequenting at that time. I almost had to throw it down with an Italian guy that night when he got confrontational. I was pulling a girl that he knew out to "love hotel hill" and he was acting like a father. Fun night.

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Yeah, Roppongi Hills has really arrived into its own with the lounges and what not. Always something going on, always an electric feel in the air. I guess everyone has his own preferences.

Love the Hills. For real, if you have style, game and a bit of cash the place is great.

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And yes, so true about overgrown bush being a big cultural thing with Japanese girls.

I found this to be changing a bit more recently. The wild bush is less common on city girls. The only one that I have seen lately was a girl who had next to no experience. She was also from the countryside. Party girls are definitely into maintaining the landing strip. There is also a small boom in "brazilian" waxing salons. Win!

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On the other side, the good side, Japanese girls are second to none in showing enthusiasm for giving head. They never refuse, and will usually swallow if you insist.

Tell me about it. I have never received, consistently, such thoughtful and detail oriented BJ's. I mean, these girls really put in the effort. If you don't come, they are truly broken up about it.

[Quintus Curtius]

Reading this thread is making me long for Nippon kyapi-kyapi gyarus. Just strolling around the department store and malls, and seeing them go about their business...
With those soothing, overly paternal intercom announcements everywhere you go, warning you to "watch out for ---" and "beware of ----"...
And there's something incredibly sexy about how Japanese girls look at your out of the corners of their eyes, and try to pretend they're not looking at you.
And when you kiss them for the first time, the way their bodies just melt into your arms. No Western woman can compete with this level of femininity. They surrender to you totally...
And the way they are the most vocal women in the world in bed. You hear them whine out "Yaaaa" or "Yaaa daaa", or even "Tasukete!!!" when you both know she loves it and wants more. I've never seen women as vocal in bed as Japanese girls. They're all moaners...and it's beautiful.
But the idea of putting up resistance makes the conquest that much sweeter. And the animal heart of man knows what it wants and what it needs.
And the way they give head with the utmost abandon, with no squeamish qualms about ingestion.

All right, got to get back to the planet earth. Sorry for my daydreams here. But yeah, I need to get back to Japan soon....

[Bushido]

(09-28-2013 03:51 AM)Laner Wrote:  

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And yes, so true about overgrown bush being a big cultural thing with Japanese girls.

I found this to be changing a bit more recently. The wild bush is less common on city girls. The only one that I have seen lately was a girl who had next to no experience. She was also from the countryside. Party girls are definitely into maintaining the landing strip. There is also a small boom in "brazilian" waxing salons. Win!

Yes. Thank god it is finally getting better here. Trimming is definitely more "in" than it was 8 years ago. Thank American celebrity culture. If they sport a bush I usually throw in a comment early on (2nd-3rd bang) like:

"Wow you don't shave down there? That's interesting..."

The girl will immediately qualify herself and, if she is into me at all, she will shave the bush off for next time.

So...in conclusion if you come across a shaved J-girl in your travels I got there first

[Laner]

(10-01-2013 01:04 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

(09-28-2013 03:51 AM)Laner Wrote:  

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And yes, so true about overgrown bush being a big cultural thing with Japanese girls.

I found this to be changing a bit more recently. The wild bush is less common on city girls. The only one that I have seen lately was a girl who had next to no experience. She was also from the countryside. Party girls are definitely into maintaining the landing strip. There is also a small boom in "brazilian" waxing salons. Win!

Yes. Thank god it is finally getting better here. Trimming is definitely more "in" than it was 8 years ago. Thank American celebrity culture. If they sport a bush I usually throw in a comment early on (2nd-3rd bang) like:

"Wow you don't shave down there? That's interesting..."

The girl will immediately qualify herself and, if she is into me at all, she will shave the bush off for next time.

So...in conclusion if you come across a shaved J-girl in your travels I got there first

I remember years ago a girl told me, when I was shaving her in a love hotel, that now she could not go on dates with any Japanese men because they would know that she was with a foreigner. Gave me a laugh, and motivation to continue this sly cockblock.

[tomhagen]

Anyone in Tokyo right now?

[The_Wonder]

Alright lads. I'm currently looking to move to Tokyo for work. Was just wondering if anything has changed there since you last posted?

[Laner]

Yes things would have changed, Tokyo has been on fire since 1945.

But the same general rules apply. Logistics, Logistics, Logistics.

You MUST be inside the Yamanote Line. After that it just comes down to preference of culture.

[The_Wonder]

I've never noticed that before? Yeah I probably won't be inside of it, but not far from it, like a couple of miles. Does that matter?

[Laner]

(04-04-2015 07:54 PM)The_Wonder Wrote:  

I've never noticed that before? Yeah I probably won't be inside of it, but not far from it, like a couple of miles. Does that matter?

Yes.

A couple of miles? Damn, might as well be in the inaka. If you have a choice, change this. It will be the biggest cockblock you will have to deal with.

By chance, are you working for Riken in Wako-shi?

[The_Wonder]

Nah. But if living in Japan I would have to go to Kashiwa quite regularly (long story). So was thinking of finding somewhere round Kitasenju. I guess I could find somewhere around Ueno or Nishinippori as that's pretty close by. Although, it's the other side of Central Tokyo from Shibuya or Roppongi?

[Carlos100]

(04-04-2015 08:57 PM)The_Wonder Wrote:  

Nah. But if living in Japan I would have to go to Kashiwa quite regularly (long story). So was thinking of finding somewhere round Kitasenju. I guess I could find somewhere around Ueno or Nishinippori as that's pretty close by. Although, it's the other side of Central Tokyo from Shibuya or Roppongi?

There are some nightlife areas in east Tokyo (like Ueno). So, if you have to live in East Tokyo I would suggest living as close to one of those places as you can.

[The_Wonder]

Cheers mate. Can you personally recommend any places? What are the women like round that way? How would they receive a Gaijin?

[Carlos100]

(04-05-2015 07:15 PM)The_Wonder Wrote:  

Cheers mate. Can you personally recommend any places? What are the women like round that way? How would they receive a Gaijin?

You got me on that one. I've never done any serious hanging-around in East Tokyo and I've never known anyone who did. From what I've heard, Ueno and other places around there, like Shibaura, are mainly used by people who live in East Tokyo or nearby Chiba, unlike Shibuya or Roppongi which are destination areas.

Thus, the nightlife around the stations in east Tokyo are likely going to have a more "locals" atmosphere. You will have to explore around, make some friends with some of the bartenders in the area, and get it all mapped out. I hear there are a few dance clubs around there. One of the most famous is AgeHa. If you live way out there but decide to hang out in Shibuya or Roppongi, you might end up having to use the love hotel avenue for your hook ups.

[Laner]

I have never heard of anyone heading to Ueno or Asakusa for nights out. Though its an interesting place with lots to do, I am under the impression that its more old Tokyo and traditional. But thats likely because of how many people I know who have Grandmas in Asakusa or Ueno.

Straight shot to Ginza though, which I kind of like.

[The_Wonder]

That's cool. I can use Shibuya and Roppongi for night game (what are Kabukicho and Ginza like for that?) and use the love hotels. Are they quite pricey though?

Do you have any knowledge of good day game places round Ueno way? I was planning on using the Starbucks by Hiroo Station, someone here made it sound like a pussy haven! But would like options closer to my neck of the woods?

[Laner]

(04-06-2015 05:14 PM)The_Wonder Wrote:  

That's cool. I can use Shibuya and Roppongi for night game (what are Kabukicho and Ginza like for that?) and use the love hotels. Are they quite pricey though?

Do you have any knowledge of good day game places round Ueno way? I was planning on using the Starbucks by Hiroo Station, someone here made it sound like a pussy haven! But would like options closer to my neck of the woods?

I think you may be missing the point here. We are trying to tell you that Tokyo is fucking massive, so I will be straight.

You are not going to be working a day job and then jumping on the train from Ueno to Hiroo to run some game, then shoot over to Shinjuku to hit up Kabukicho on the way home before last train at midnight. That shit will kill you. You will see when you get there.

Start local. Your local logistics will be key. USE THIS TO YOUR ADVANTAGE. Weekends are different as you will just skip last train and figure it out from there until 5 am.

[The_Wonder]

Nah. Maybe I made myself too unclear. I live in London, so I know about sprawling cities, Tokyo is compact by comparison! I meant I would experiment, and of course spread it out. For example, during the week I definitely won't be going out at night, but I know I'll be working in the vicinity of Hiroo, so I could hit up that area during lunch break etc. (I need to get lunch anyway). But yeah I'd obviously concentrate on my local living area more. I've heard the Hubs are decent places and there's one in every area? During weekends, as you said, I can plan from there.

But yeah I need to move there before setting up a good POA that maximises my chances without jeopardizing anything else. Definitely a big difference between living somewhere and just visiting, but that's part of the fun!

Read a good portion of the Bang! Japan thread, very informative. Keep up the good work lads.

[Laner]

(04-06-2015 06:19 PM)The_Wonder Wrote:  

Nah. Maybe I made myself too unclear. I live in London, so I know about sprawling cities, Tokyo is compact by comparison! I meant I would experiment, and of course spread it out. For example, during the week I definitely won't be going out at night, but I know I'll be working in the vicinity of Hiroo, so I could hit up that area during lunch break etc. (I need to get lunch anyway). But yeah I'd obviously concentrate on my local living area more. I've heard the Hubs are decent places and there's one in every area? During weekends, as you said, I can plan from there.

But yeah I need to move there before setting up a good POA that maximises my chances without jeopardizing anything else. Definitely a big difference between living somewhere and just visiting, but that's part of the fun!

Read a good portion of the Bang! Japan thread, very informative. Keep up the good work lads.

If you are working in Hiroo, then live there! Its one of the best areas of Tokyo. Damn smack in the middle of everything you will ever need with the best women in the bloody country.

The embassy women are a significant bonus as well. You will not have to worry about last train, you are a 10 min taxi to Shibuya, Roppongi, Omotosando and even a place like Nakameguro is only 5 min by metro. If you dont go out after work during the week you are missing out on all the amazing office lady talent that grab a glass of wine on the way home after work. Weekends are bloodbaths (in the best way possible).

I am jealous. I would live there in a hearbeat. Just let us beat the importance of logistics into your head and you will thank us later.

[Carlos100]

(04-06-2015 10:43 PM)Laner Wrote:  

(04-06-2015 06:19 PM)The_Wonder Wrote:  

Nah. Maybe I made myself too unclear. I live in London, so I know about sprawling cities, Tokyo is compact by comparison! I meant I would experiment, and of course spread it out. For example, during the week I definitely won't be going out at night, but I know I'll be working in the vicinity of Hiroo, so I could hit up that area during lunch break etc. (I need to get lunch anyway). But yeah I'd obviously concentrate on my local living area more. I've heard the Hubs are decent places and there's one in every area? During weekends, as you said, I can plan from there.

But yeah I need to move there before setting up a good POA that maximises my chances without jeopardizing anything else. Definitely a big difference between living somewhere and just visiting, but that's part of the fun!

Read a good portion of the Bang! Japan thread, very informative. Keep up the good work lads.

If you are working in Hiroo, then live there! Its one of the best areas of Tokyo. Damn smack in the middle of everything you will ever need with the best women in the bloody country.

The embassy women are a significant bonus as well. You will not have to worry about last train, you are a 10 min taxi to Shibuya, Roppongi, Omotosando and even a place like Nakameguro is only 5 min by metro. If you dont go out after work during the week you are missing out on all the amazing office lady talent that grab a glass of wine on the way home after work. Weekends are bloodbaths (in the best way possible).

I am jealous. I would live there in a hearbeat. Just let us beat the importance of logistics into your head and you will thank us later.

And not necessarily related to game...nearby Nishi-Azabu probably has the greatest restaurants in the world (along with Ginza). I'm not exaggerating. The best food I've ever had in my life has been at small restaurants in that area.

[The_Wonder]

Nothing 100% yet, but will definitely look round that area for flats. Don't tell me about awful logistics, try living in Zone 5 London, off the tube, with your parents! And yeah when I'm looking up at the ceiling fan, hands behind head, beaming from ear to ear, I'll be thanking you lads!