[Claudio]

I have often asked my question, which was the defining factor which led to the most ardent decay of the USA, Women’s Right To Vote (1919) or Women’s Feminist Movement (1968)?

I believe both have aided in destroying the very fabric of everything which made America great. Below, is my personal response to the question. I am hoping members of this forum will aptly weigh in as I enjoy reading others perspectives.

I believe the largest divide was the Women’s Feminist Movement (1968). Granted, Women’s Right To Vote (1919) was where it all began, however, it was in the later 1960’s where the term “mom, baseball and apple pie” became a declining phrase in describing the soul of America.

Firstly, the Women’s Feminist Movement disenfranchised the traditional role of American men. Thanks to the placement of collectivist legislators and Judges within our society, to speak out as a man or support traditional American values may subject you to open attacks of some form of racial discrimination (although act has no connection with anything to do with race), or some form of harassment, sexism not tolerated in the new America. Simply ask Bill O’Reilly, once thought to be “untouchable” about that, once the Murdoch brothers were placed at the helm of FOX News. The Murdoch Brothers, who have lauded the teachings of Marx, and one of the largest contributors to the National Organization for Women – should not be surprising that their dream of a collectivist America, supersedes even the success of their news network.

Secondly, destruction of the institution of marriage within America. Gloria Steinem (1960s feminist movement organizer) distorted gender roles by establishing a propaganda machine to create the illusion the movement was career oriented only. Many moderates at the time, got onboard with this, which resulted in American women delaying marriage as they had been convinced to do so would mean capitulating their identities as women. They believed their identity as women first, should receive precedence over the role of wife and mother. The alternative, a loss of respect by men who subsequently become less principled is their approach to female companionship, and began placing a higher value on less meaningful pleasures of the flesh. In fact, a recent study has shown that even after marriage, women are initiating 70% of all divorces filed after the enlightenment of their new ideology.

Thirdly, and primary problem, is the feminist’s successful effort in eliminating gender roles. As early as grammar-middle school, teachers are browbeating young boys using verbal persecution a well as written (especially in nutty states like California, New York, Washington, and Massachusetts) in an effort to shove sensitivity down their throats, turning a generation of future “men” into milksops. Between the educational system, the head-shirkers (if the children do not comply) liberal legislatures and collectivist judges, are making a toxic atmosphere for young boys. Our public education system, especially at the primary levels has become a factory to socially emasculate young boys. The danger of this of course, as these minnows progress to adulthood, because their manhood has been driven severely dormant, are relegated to exist within a politically correct dungeon. Subsequently, their contemporary model as the expected and even preferred example of what an American male is meant to be, is then passed along to their male progeny.

Lastly, debilitate father’s ability to rear children. As a direct result of feminism, there has been a rampant dissolution of the father's authority and lessening of his power within the family unit. In conjunction, an increased quantity of children are in some form of secondary-care where there is no guidance or orderliness establishing a culture of unruly children, poor eating habits leading to obesity and negative emotional outbursts. Moving forward, thanks to the advent of feminism, "male guilt" is at an all-time high, which softens the fathers natural tendencies to be assertive, in exchange for feminine validation. Keep in mind that you continue to see me use terms like “collectivism”. I do not want to lose focus that traditional marriage as modeled in America from the 1950’s and prior, runs counter to the socialist aim of equality of outcome. If a certain group of children grow up with fathers (even those that would never be nominated father of the year) while another group of children have no father at all to emulate, the children with a father in their life(s) have a significant advantage. Now, this being said, sends off bells-and-whistles to your typical, radical, angry feminist. The disparity of maternal outcome creates imminent danger to the ideology of feminism, and those who worship at its alter, because women who want to give their children an advantage are at risk of suffering from exposure to male authority.

Please feel free to weigh in with your comments and remarks. Looking forward to reading them!

Thanks.

[Number one bummer]

Would legislators allow the murder of babies, welfare state, and bad family courts if they weren't pandering for female voters? The 19th has to go back.

[John Michael Kane]

Bummer summed it up perfectly. When women give men the power to pander to them, more men than not will become feckless weaklings. See the establishment Republicucks and Democucks. They are scared women might not approve of them or find them sexist. Never mind that American women have killed over 50m unborn babies due to male pandering. That's a genocidal holocaust we'll never talk about. Giving women the right to vote was the biggest failed shit test of all time, baring Adam not checking Eve back in Eden.

[churros]

Neither. Political power = wealth. Women used to be dependent on men. Then women got jobs. So your two options stem merely from changes in the economy.

So how did women get into the workforce? Is it possible to turn that back, and would you want to?

[cascadecombo]

isn't there a politics forum for this kind of stuff?

[Kapanda]

(08-13-2017 06:42 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Bummer summed it up perfectly. When women give men the power to pander to them, more men than not will become feckless weaklings. See the establishment Republicucks and Democucks. They are scared women might not approve of them or find them sexist. Never mind that American women have killed over 50m unborn babies due to male pandering. That's a genocidal holocaust we'll never talk about. Giving women the right to vote was the biggest failed shit test of all time, baring Adam not checking Eve back in Eden.

50 million in the US alone. How does that not make the blood boil?

[John Michael Kane]

Men and women are capable of immense evil. Only men are portrayed as such. Any criticism of female evil is painted as an attack on women and women's rights.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

1950s still had feminine women - in fact it was fine even with their right to vote.

The feminist movement in the 1960s came with many additional measures like no-fault divorce that ripped asunder normal family structure.

[Extinguished Light]

The oral contraceptive pill was the most destructive, followed by the vote, followed by the feminist movement which could not have succeeded without the first two.

[Claudio]

Over the last few months, I have dated a couple of black women. I have always been partial to blue-eyed blondes, and until lately dated little else. Let me say that I had never before had an interest in black women, and believed that life is more comfortable when people date and marry within their own ethnic lines, especially if children are considered in the horizon.

I would be disingenuous if I did not confess that I had a better time with, and was better treated by these black ladies, than any of the white American women I have dated over the years. They were both beautiful, educated, and amazing bodies, and laughed heartily at all my silly attempts at humor. One of the ladies I have dated several times and still see. During one of our conversations, I complimented her hair which was straightened and beautiful. I then asked her what brought on this new trend of black women straightening their hair? I was blown away from the response. She stated that is was not missed on women in the black community that white women treat their men like sh*t. She stated that black men have been lacking in the husband/father department for many years and has just gotten worse. She indicated that a huge sector of women in the black community have since set their sights on white men, as the marriages are proving very successful and enduring. She said that all black women want is to be loved, and have a father be there for their children. She said for that, a black woman would take great care and support “her man” forever after. She stated that black women are more than happy to let the man be, well, the "man" of the house. She also said that many white women do not marry until much later and conscious of age variances. Black women are not, and willing to marry earlier in life to begin a family. She said that many black women are adjusting their demeanor to more effectively commune with white men. In fact, four of her best friends are married to white men and have wonderful families. Also, unlike white women, after marriage, black women believe it necessary to continue pleasing their man in the bedroom.

Where I am heading with this – this is another example of how feminism has impacted the nuclear family. White women in America tend to be more radical in pursuing their feminist agenda, than do black women. Additionally, white American feminists no longer care to maintain their appearances, as they no longer have reason to adore or respect men in our society; evident by the obesity, lack of hygiene and fashion disasters seen roaming our streets. Most black women have “killer curves”, maintain their appearances and age well. Black women have recognized the collapse of the white American woman, and have no compunctions about garnering the attention of their menfolk. Call it opportunistic if you want, but black women are definitely carving their mark where this void exists. I have found that black women ask little and give much. What amazed me most, I saw that in America, the percentage of white men who married black women increased 19% over the past five years. Although, I am not surprised considering black women are willing to marry earlier and perform more traditional roles as wife and mother, this is just another reason to pinpoint the effects feminism has had in America. It is additionally important to point out that in the southwestern states, marriages between white men and Latino women has boomed as well. The one constant, the birthrate of white babies to white women is drastically decreasing, thanks again to feminist ideology.

[Enoch]

(08-14-2017 01:56 PM)Claudio Wrote:  

Over the last few months, I have dated a couple of black women. I have always been partial to blue-eyed blondes, and until lately dated little else. Let me say that I had never before had an interest in black women, and believed that life is more comfortable when people date and marry within their own ethnic lines, especially if children are considered in the horizon.

I would be disingenuous if I did not confess that I had a better time with, and was better treated by these black ladies, than any of the white American women I have dated over the years. They were both beautiful, educated, and amazing bodies, and laughed heartily at all my silly attempts at humor. One of the ladies I have dated several times and still see. During one of our conversations, I complimented her hair which was straightened and beautiful. I then asked her what brought on this new trend of black women straightening their hair? I was blown away from the response. She stated that is was not missed on women in the black community that white women treat their men like sh*t. She stated that black men have been lacking in the husband/father department for many years and has just gotten worse. She indicated that a huge sector of women in the black community have since set their sights on white men, as the marriages are proving very successful and enduring. She said that all black women want is to be loved, and have a father be there for their children. She said for that, a black woman would take great care and support “her man” forever after. She stated that black women are more than happy to let the man be, well, the "man" of the house. She also said that many white women do not marry until much later and conscious of age variances. Black women are not, and willing to marry earlier in life to begin a family. She said that many black women are adjusting their demeanor to more effectively commune with white men. In fact, four of her best friends are married to white men and have wonderful families. Also, unlike white women, after marriage, black women believe it necessary to continue pleasing their man in the bedroom.

Where I am heading with this – this is another example of how feminism has impacted the nuclear family. White women in America tend to be more radical in pursuing their feminist agenda, than do black women. Additionally, white American feminists no longer care to maintain their appearances, as they no longer have reason to adore or respect men in our society; evident by the obesity, lack of hygiene and fashion disasters seen roaming our streets. Most black women have “killer curves”, maintain their appearances and age well. Black women have recognized the collapse of the white American woman, and have no compunctions about garnering the attention of their menfolk. Call it opportunistic if you want, but black women are definitely carving their mark where this void exists. I have found that black women ask little and give much. What amazed me most, I saw that in America, the percentage of white men who married black women increased 19% over the past five years. Although, I am not surprised considering black women are willing to marry earlier and perform more traditional roles as wife and mother, this is just another reason to pinpoint the effects feminism has had in America. It is additionally important to point out that in the southwestern states, marriages between white men and Latino women has boomed as well. The one constant, the birthrate of white babies to white women is drastically decreasing, thanks again to feminist ideology.

Interesting post - how has your experience with black women compared to other non-white women - South American, Indian (dot), Asian?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-14-2017 01:56 PM)Claudio Wrote:  

Over the last few months, I have dated a couple of black women. I have always been partial to blue-eyed blondes, and until lately dated little else. Let me say that I had never before had an interest in black women, and believed that life is more comfortable when people date and marry within their own ethnic lines, especially if children are considered in the horizon.

I would be disingenuous if I did not confess that I had a better time with, and was better treated by these black ladies, than any of the white American women I have dated over the years. They were both beautiful, educated, and amazing bodies, and laughed heartily at all my silly attempts at humor. One of the ladies I have dated several times and still see. During one of our conversations, I complimented her hair which was straightened and beautiful. I then asked her what brought on this new trend of black women straightening their hair? I was blown away from the response. She stated that is was not missed on women in the black community that white women treat their men like sh*t. She stated that black men have been lacking in the husband/father department for many years and has just gotten worse. She indicated that a huge sector of women in the black community have since set their sights on white men, as the marriages are proving very successful and enduring. She said that all black women want is to be loved, and have a father be there for their children. She said for that, a black woman would take great care and support “her man” forever after. She stated that black women are more than happy to let the man be, well, the "man" of the house. She also said that many white women do not marry until much later and conscious of age variances. Black women are not, and willing to marry earlier in life to begin a family. She said that many black women are adjusting their demeanor to more effectively commune with white men. In fact, four of her best friends are married to white men and have wonderful families. Also, unlike white women, after marriage, black women believe it necessary to continue pleasing their man in the bedroom.

Where I am heading with this – this is another example of how feminism has impacted the nuclear family. White women in America tend to be more radical in pursuing their feminist agenda, than do black women. Additionally, white American feminists no longer care to maintain their appearances, as they no longer have reason to adore or respect men in our society; evident by the obesity, lack of hygiene and fashion disasters seen roaming our streets. Most black women have “killer curves”, maintain their appearances and age well. Black women have recognized the collapse of the white American woman, and have no compunctions about garnering the attention of their menfolk. Call it opportunistic if you want, but black women are definitely carving their mark where this void exists. I have found that black women ask little and give much. What amazed me most, I saw that in America, the percentage of white men who married black women increased 19% over the past five years. Although, I am not surprised considering black women are willing to marry earlier and perform more traditional roles as wife and mother, this is just another reason to pinpoint the effects feminism has had in America. It is additionally important to point out that in the southwestern states, marriages between white men and Latino women has boomed as well. The one constant, the birthrate of white babies to white women is drastically decreasing, thanks again to feminist ideology.

I read the stats about the stability of those relationships. Still - more black women are fat and obese. The ones that you refer to - yes - they tend to go White Man shopping and mostly leave black men aside. So the added plus comes only for white men - they treat fellow black men not nearly as well.

But yes - a part of their tribe has started to jump into that niche due to the catastrophic single-mother and out-of-wedlock state of black community. Some of the women shape up - also partly reacting to the market place.

Successful black men on the other hand go Chinese or Latina.

Unfortunately the majority continue in the negative cycles of old.

[eskimobobseal]

(08-13-2017 06:42 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Bummer summed it up perfectly. When women give men the power to pander to them, more men than not will become feckless weaklings. See the establishment Republicucks and Democucks. They are scared women might not approve of them or find them sexist. Never mind that American women have killed over 50m unborn babies due to male pandering. That's a genocidal holocaust we'll never talk about. Giving women the right to vote was the biggest failed shit test of all time, baring Adam not checking Eve back in Eden.

1000% this. We lost control of America the second women got the vote. Now, legislators are governing with the inherent fear of SJW labels being plastered on them by fat, blue-haired pigs who've destroyed the nuclear family system. All you need to do is look at the 2016 election split between men and women to see how utterly brainwashed women are, and why they should be nowhere near the ballot box.

The best thing we can all do is this - if you're looking to get married, go to a Christian church that takes the faith seriously (very seriously) and find a wife. It's your only shot at raising a traditional family with someone who isn't an unbearable jezebel witch.

[Goldin Boy]

(08-14-2017 01:56 PM)Claudio Wrote:  

Over the last few months, I have dated a couple of black women. I have always been partial to blue-eyed blondes, and until lately dated little else. Let me say that I had never before had an interest in black women, and believed that life is more comfortable when people date and marry within their own ethnic lines, especially if children are considered in the horizon.

I would be disingenuous if I did not confess that I had a better time with, and was better treated by these black ladies, than any of the white American women I have dated over the years. They were both beautiful, educated, and amazing bodies, and laughed heartily at all my silly attempts at humor. One of the ladies I have dated several times and still see. During one of our conversations, I complimented her hair which was straightened and beautiful. I then asked her what brought on this new trend of black women straightening their hair? I was blown away from the response. She stated that is was not missed on women in the black community that white women treat their men like sh*t. She stated that black men have been lacking in the husband/father department for many years and has just gotten worse. She indicated that a huge sector of women in the black community have since set their sights on white men, as the marriages are proving very successful and enduring. She said that all black women want is to be loved, and have a father be there for their children. She said for that, a black woman would take great care and support “her man” forever after. She stated that black women are more than happy to let the man be, well, the "man" of the house. She also said that many white women do not marry until much later and conscious of age variances. Black women are not, and willing to marry earlier in life to begin a family. She said that many black women are adjusting their demeanor to more effectively commune with white men. In fact, four of her best friends are married to white men and have wonderful families. Also, unlike white women, after marriage, black women believe it necessary to continue pleasing their man in the bedroom.

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In Latin America, they call it adelantar la raza. Black American's call it "swirling".

I don't care what they call it. Marry that girl and pop out some kids. I'll give you rep point after I bang one your mulatta daughters in 2035.

And did you bang?

[Claudio]

I have traditionally only dated white women. However, also a couple of Mexican-American women a few years back. One was no different than the neo-American woman of today (poisoned with feminist ideology), however, the other more traditional in her values, keeping closer to her Latin tradition. In comparing the Mexican-American women to the more recent Black women I have dated is apples-to-oranges. The two black women were more educated and focused. They both gave me the impression that they would be more than happy for the man to take the lead in the relationship and have someone to follow through life with. They were both fun-loving, respectful and attractive.

Internationally however, a different story. My profession has led me to different countries, and able to make sufficient time to kertang the female population. The most beautiful women I kertang’d abroad were from Norway (Oslo), however, best sexual partners were Ukraine or Kazakhstan without doubt. I especially liked the women of Ukraine, they have mastered the art of presenting themselves in a manner which has you constantly stepping on your tongue. I have also spent some time in Asia and South America. More specifically, South Korea, Argentina and Colombia. The women of Argentina are off the chart HOT and have a more Mediterranean look about them. A lot of olive skin and green eyes in that country, again, the women beautiful! However, Argentinian women are much more reserved than other Latin American countries when it comes to the art of kertang. I gave it my best shot, however other than a couple of fun dates with beautiful ladies, ended up going to bed empty-handed in Argentina. Great place if searching for a wife however. Colombia, a different story entirely. The women here are built for speed and saucy. You can get whiplash from following the emotional roller-coaster of Colombian women. They are wonderful lovers however, and do miss the hot-breath of these Latin ladies.

[RatInTheWoods]

(08-14-2017 11:00 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

1950s still had feminine women - in fact it was fine even with their right to vote.

The feminist movement in the 1960s came with many additional measures like no-fault divorce that ripped asunder normal family structure.

I concur with the OP.

Feminism is the cancer here, not voting rights.

[John Michael Kane]

Women having the vote gave feminists the right to push men out of the way and bully male legislators. The cart belongs behind the horse, not in front of it. Without the vote, the feminists wouldn't have had the teeth to enact their agenda through the courts and legislative bodies.

[Ouroboros]

(08-14-2017 11:00 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

1950s still had feminine women - in fact it was fine even with their right to vote.

Exactly. Every country where men on this forum like to travel for the sake of dating feminine women, women have the right to vote (at least to the same extent as men, since some of those countries don't hold 'free and fair' elections, making the right to vote rather meaningless). Having the right to vote hasn't masculinised the women of democratic European countries like France, Italy and Spain; it doesn't explain why the dating quality in the Anglosphere is so much worse, among other societal issues.

[Samseau]

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Having the right to vote hasn't masculinised the women of democratic European countries like France, Italy and Spain

No but it emasculated their men.

Regardless the woman's vote at best is neutral, and at worst ushers in a large voting block of easily manipulated women who rely on nothing but emotion as their guide (i.e. big children).

When the woman's vote was first implemented in America, there was no effect as husbands and wives voted together 99% of the time. This proves that the woman's vote was redundant and served no purpose.

Then when women got brainwashed in the 60's school system to give up family in exchange for easy sex and money (careerism: to essentially become whores) the woman's vote became an instrument of pure evil.

So at no point has the woman's vote ever been used for good, only evil. At best it has remained neutral because they listen to their men, but most of the time it has ushered in the worst of politicians who rely on their emotional nature.

That is why most skeptical men do not believe the woman's vote is good or necessary. It is in fact immoral, since men have to fight the wars women vote for anyways. Only those who have true skin in the game should be allowed to vote; and since the federal President and Congress have the authority to declare wars only men should be allowed to vote in these elections (since women are not part of the draft nor could they ever be).

[Claudio]

Interestingly enough, below ere the arguments which were made by anti-suffragists lobbying against women’s right to vote in America. This is somewhat unnerving, but they were ever so right.

•Government rests ultimately on the ability to generate force. Women are incapable of contributing, lacking the necessary physical, moral and social reason.
•Women are not capable of full citizenship being unavailable to contribute in the need of national and imperial defense. By infusing a huge female component to the electorate would deteriorate the center of power in the eyes of dependent millions.
•Woman Suffrage is based on the idea of the equality of the sexes, which will establish a competitive relation which will destroy chivalrous consideration. Women are simply unfit to directly compete with men.
•Women would ultimately be corrupted by politics and chivalry would die out
•If women became involved in politics, they would stop marrying, having children, and the human race would soon perish.
•Women were emotional creatures, and incapable of making sound political decisions.
•Women’s role is in local affairs.
•Women are already represented by their husbands.
•It is insensible to change a system that works.
•Women do not fight to defend their country

Granted, some of the above has since changed during this early argument (women serving in battle), however, the early anti-suffragists could have not been more correct.

I have just recently found this website, however, wish to give a quick shout-out to Roosh, who’s courage has led the way to an open-exchange of cultural ideas on this forum, without the fear of being socially attacked by the establishment. No doubt Roosh is being savagely attacked by collectivist thinkers, in fact would wager extreme, radical establishment types are attempting to destroy his very right to survive.

[redpillage]

(08-14-2017 01:10 PM)Extinguished Light Wrote:  

The oral contraceptive pill was the most destructive, followed by the vote, followed by the feminist movement which could not have succeeded without the first two.

I tend to agree, with you there, we need a third option which is the pill. Without that white women would still have three/four children per and their outlook on life and career as well as men would be 180 degrees from where it is today. Women without gender/nature enforced responsibilities who are nevertheless able to claim all natural and cultural privileges are directly responsible for the mess we're in. NOTHING we are fighting today would be possible without women's 'liberation' from their natural responsibilities. Feminism simply would not exist as women simply wouldn't have the time or the mind required to pursue these ideas.

1) The pill (the destroyer of the nuclear family in less than 50 years)
2) The 1919 women's vote (leading immediately to prohibition)
3) The 1968 cultural revolution and the feminist movement

[redpillage]

(08-15-2017 04:40 AM)Ouroboros Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 11:00 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

1950s still had feminine women - in fact it was fine even with their right to vote.

Exactly. Every country where men on this forum like to travel for the sake of dating feminine women, women have the right to vote (at least to the same extent as men, since some of those countries don't hold 'free and fair' elections, making the right to vote rather meaningless). Having the right to vote hasn't masculinised the women of democratic European countries like France, Italy and Spain; it doesn't explain why the dating quality in the Anglosphere is so much worse, among other societal issues.

Have you actually ever been to these countries? I can only speak for Spain but most men are complete and utter doormats here, especially the younger generation. Women effectively run Spain at this point and while men may act macho they are not in control of their family. All it takes is one single phone call from your wife or girlfriend and you will not only find yourself in jail but you will lose your home and the right to see your children.

Spanish feministas are among the biggest ball busters I have come across in my life. There is a reason why the video above resonated with so many Spaniards.

[redpillage]

(08-15-2017 04:40 AM)Ouroboros Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 11:00 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

1950s still had feminine women - in fact it was fine even with their right to vote.

Exactly. Every country where men on this forum like to travel for the sake of dating feminine women, women have the right to vote (at least to the same extent as men, since some of those countries don't hold 'free and fair' elections, making the right to vote rather meaningless). Having the right to vote hasn't masculinised the women of democratic European countries like France, Italy and Spain; it doesn't explain why the dating quality in the Anglosphere is so much worse, among other societal issues.

The only reason why it hasn't masculinized them is because an overwhelming female vote has assured rampant socialism which pretty much assured recurring economic hardship (see Venezuela right now). And as we all know, economic/social crisis breeds tough/masculine men and feminine women. If any of these countries ranked higher on the socio-economic scale their women would quickly turn into childless feminist bitches.

Sorry, I don't mean to pick on you ;-)

[redpillage]

(08-13-2017 06:48 PM)churros Wrote:  

Neither. Political power = wealth. Women used to be dependent on men. Then women got jobs. So your two options stem merely from changes in the economy.

So how did women get into the workforce? Is it possible to turn that back, and would you want to?

Probably unrealistic at this point but a) recent statistics suggest that women are far more miserable today then when a majority of them were stay at home moms. b) it would effectively crash the housing market as single income families would be unable to afford e.g. a $500k shoebox erected on one of the most massive and earthquake prone fault-lines on the planet.

Back in the 1940s or 1950s a plumber, shoemaker, or carpenter was able to raise three plus children whilst being able to afford to buy a house and a car. That all ended when the banksters got into the game and heavily lobbied for women to join the workplace. Always just follow the money guys, the answers are right in front of you.

[Claudio]

(08-14-2017 03:32 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(08-14-2017 01:56 PM)Claudio Wrote:  

Over the last few months, I have dated a couple of black women. I have always been partial to blue-eyed blondes, and until lately dated little else. Let me say that I had never before had an interest in black women, and believed that life is more comfortable when people date and marry within their own ethnic lines, especially if children are considered in the horizon.

I would be disingenuous if I did not confess that I had a better time with, and was better treated by these black ladies, than any of the white American women I have dated over the years. They were both beautiful, educated, and amazing bodies, and laughed heartily at all my silly attempts at humor. One of the ladies I have dated several times and still see. During one of our conversations, I complimented her hair which was straightened and beautiful. I then asked her what brought on this new trend of black women straightening their hair? I was blown away from the response. She stated that is was not missed on women in the black community that white women treat their men like sh*t. She stated that black men have been lacking in the husband/father department for many years and has just gotten worse. She indicated that a huge sector of women in the black community have since set their sights on white men, as the marriages are proving very successful and enduring. She said that all black women want is to be loved, and have a father be there for their children. She said for that, a black woman would take great care and support “her man” forever after. She stated that black women are more than happy to let the man be, well, the "man" of the house. She also said that many white women do not marry until much later and conscious of age variances. Black women are not, and willing to marry earlier in life to begin a family. She said that many black women are adjusting their demeanor to more effectively commune with white men. In fact, four of her best friends are married to white men and have wonderful families. Also, unlike white women, after marriage, black women believe it necessary to continue pleasing their man in the bedroom.

Where I am heading with this – this is another example of how feminism has impacted the nuclear family. White women in America tend to be more radical in pursuing their feminist agenda, than do black women. Additionally, white American feminists no longer care to maintain their appearances, as they no longer have reason to adore or respect men in our society; evident by the obesity, lack of hygiene and fashion disasters seen roaming our streets. Most black women have “killer curves”, maintain their appearances and age well. Black women have recognized the collapse of the white American woman, and have no compunctions about garnering the attention of their menfolk. Call it opportunistic if you want, but black women are definitely carving their mark where this void exists. I have found that black women ask little and give much. What amazed me most, I saw that in America, the percentage of white men who married black women increased 19% over the past five years. Although, I am not surprised considering black women are willing to marry earlier and perform more traditional roles as wife and mother, this is just another reason to pinpoint the effects feminism has had in America. It is additionally important to point out that in the southwestern states, marriages between white men and Latino women has boomed as well. The one constant, the birthrate of white babies to white women is drastically decreasing, thanks again to feminist ideology.

I read the stats about the stability of those relationships. Still - more black women are fat and obese. The ones that you refer to - yes - they tend to go White Man shopping and mostly leave black men aside. So the added plus comes only for white men - they treat fellow black men not nearly as well.

But yes - a part of their tribe has started to jump into that niche due to the catastrophic single-mother and out-of-wedlock state of black community. Some of the women shape up - also partly reacting to the market place.

Successful black men on the other hand go Chinese or Latina.

Unfortunately the majority continue in the negative cycles of old.

I could not agree with you more on this. You are correct, the more attractive, tall, athletic-built black woman is the one who grooms and dresses herself for the purpose of attracting a white male professional (WMP). If she lands her WMP, she gets stability and ability to support her family without the drama and struggle generally predominating black families – and he gets a much more loyal, generally younger woman who will be there for him day-in-and-day out. It is a bonus that his future Little Leaguer's chances of making the All-Star team just went up exponentially as well. Because of the manner feminism has destroyed the “gal who married dear old dad”, these marriages are actually much more solid in America today. Not advocating, just tired of PC, BS and pointing out a fact.