[Hypno]

Trump needs to end this affirmative action crap. Its within his power to do it by executive order. He can't blame this on Congress.

[Constitution45]

Probably more to it. I am not saying that cops can do no wrong, but I never trust the media angle when they jump on law enforcement 'incidents' or shootings.

[glugger]

Has there been any more evidence of the event put forward?

[Atlanta Man]

This woman had it coming-she did(violent) yoga, was an(illegal?) immigrant, was(verbally) abusive to police (police are never, ever wrong), was a leftist agitator, and a WNB over 40 woman. Thank god this brave police officer shot this unarmed, female , threat to society-we should all support this officer and his heroic actions. Unarmed ,white, female yoga instructors have been gentrifying poor inner city neighborhoods with impunity for too long- this evil woman was also probably vegan and contributing to animal overpopulation. I for one am happy that the police are now focusing on the real criminals-white , unarmed, female, vegan, immigrant, yoga instructors have been getting away with their evil crimes for too long.

[DamienCasanova]

http://heavy.com/news/2017/07/mohamed-no...-mohammed/

Authorities have been very vague and tight-lipped on the shooting, saying that it’s under investigation.

However, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune newspaper has reported, through three sources, that Damond, 40, was in her pajamas when shot and was speaking to Noor’s partner at the time through the window of a police car in which Noor was allegedly a passenger.

“Three sources with knowledge of the incident said Sunday that two officers in one squad car, responding to the 911 call, pulled into the alley. Damond, in her pajamas, went to the driver’s side door and was talking to the driver. The officer in the passenger seat pulled his gun and shot Damond through the driver’s side door, sources confirmed. No weapon was found at the scene,” the Star Tribune reported.

Her fiancee, Don Damond, said in a news conference that she had called to report a potential sexual assault.

CBS Minneapolis reports that Noor has an attorney, Tom Plunkett. The television station reported that Damond “made the 911 call and was speaking to police officers Saturday night. They were near the alley when the officer in the passenger seat reached across and shot her. A cell phone was found near Damond’s body…”

Noor’s partner was allegedly “stunned” when Noor opened fire, KARE11 reported through a source.

According to The Star-Tribune, he was named in a December divorce action. The Star Tribune reported that “Noor was described in divorce documents filed in December as a caring, involved father who was at times consumed by the demands of his job.”

His defense will probably be he thought she was carrying a gun, not a cell phone. And he was too distraught from his divorce to think straight.

Or as Anonymous Conservative says

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blo...f-divorce/

Like a muscle, the amygdala is also conditionable. In this case, I would bet there was some aspect of the divorce which was coming to a head, and had his amygdala in high gear – and in this case firing off a threat stimulus and triggering action when it shouldn’t have. It is even possible that the amygdala had been conditioned to fire off in response to a emotional/agitated woman without him noticing it, and he didn’t even know it.

But when he saw an agitated woman, his amygdala loaded up, and next thing he knew her cell phone turned into a gun in his mind, she was a threat to his well-being, and he was firing. It is all very mechanical, and dependent on the development of the structure, which is itself dependent on the natural abilities the individual brings. If you begin with a weaker structure, then the pattern recognition process can be astonishingly unspecific and vague. It really takes a lot of cognitive power for the mind to begin perceiving subtle differences in the broad pattern in real time, and creating sub-categories of trigger with different forms of response. It is easy to shoot everything that moves in a microsecond. It is much more difficult to begin classifying different types of movement, and deciding which gets shot and which does not.

More ominously, it is also possible that his amygdala was conditioned to fire off in rage and/or threat in response to the visage of an agitated woman through repeated interactions with his wife regarding the divorce which each triggered rage and threat. When he saw another agitated woman he was overtaken with rage and a sense of threat, and that helped trigger the events. There is no way to tell now, but I would not be surprised. Everything cognitive is the amygdala-mechanism.

[Going strong]

(07-19-2017 09:52 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

was also probably vegan and contributing to animal overpopulation.

Brilliant! Will use next time I want to trigger a pain-in-the-neck (female, blanched and un-sexy) vegan. These people actually are harmful to society, considering that living cattle is diminishing the oxygen resources of our dear planet!

By eating beef, we actually curb CO2 emissions and global pollution, whereas vegan senselessly "contribute to animal overpopulation"!

[Atlanta Man]

However, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune newspaper has reported, through three sources, that Damond, 40, was in her pajamas when shot and was speaking to Noor’s partner at the time through the window of a police car in which Noor was allegedly a passenger.

She was wearing "Assault" Pajamas, how much more senseless violence must occur before Assault pajamas are banned?

[Leonard D Neubache]

(07-19-2017 08:36 AM)homersheineken Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 04:19 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Cameras for all of them, even if you have to up their pay by 10k a year.
...

Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

The cops DID have body cameras and cameras in the vehicle.

They recorded everything that happened - after they turned them on, right after the murder.

It showed them attending to the woman after she was shot.

I shouldn't need to add it but I will. There should be no "off" button on the cameras. We're not living in the stone age, fashioning 1.44 inch floppy disks out of slate. Everything going into those cameras can be streamed back to base or at very least manually uploaded at the end of a shift. This is not complicated shit. My oldest son can grapple with this technology in his free time after school.

What's more, this technology has the capacity to do away with most of the mundane bullshit paperwork that cops are always bitching takes up so much of their time. Instead of writing a detailed 500 word report covering the pursuit of a shoplifter they can simply reference "event @ 14:25 through 15:02 March 11, 2017". They lose ten minutes uploading their day into the server at the station and gain an hour of not having a pen in their hand.

The fact is that despite police protests about how they're assumed guilty when something goes wrong THEY are the ones most resistant to having to document their entire shifts for reasons that everyone else in society is painfully aware of.

I conservatively estimate that if perpetual surveillance of the cops themselves became a reality then between ten and twenty percent of police would quietly find a convenient excuse to quit the force, and frankly the force would be better off without those particular cops.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(07-19-2017 09:59 AM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  

...
His defense will probably be he thought she was carrying a gun, not a cell phone. And he was too distraught from his divorce to think straight.

Or as Anonymous Conservative says

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blo...f-divorce/

Like a muscle, the amygdala is also conditionable. In this case, I would bet there was some aspect of the divorce which was coming to a head, and had his amygdala in high gear – and in this case firing off a threat stimulus and triggering action when it shouldn’t have. It is even possible that the amygdala had been conditioned to fire off in response to a emotional/agitated woman without him noticing it, and he didn’t even know it.

But when he saw an agitated woman, his amygdala loaded up, and next thing he knew her cell phone turned into a gun in his mind, she was a threat to his well-being, and he was firing. It is all very mechanical, and dependent on the development of the structure, which is itself dependent on the natural abilities the individual brings. If you begin with a weaker structure, then the pattern recognition process can be astonishingly unspecific and vague. It really takes a lot of cognitive power for the mind to begin perceiving subtle differences in the broad pattern in real time, and creating sub-categories of trigger with different forms of response. It is easy to shoot everything that moves in a microsecond. It is much more difficult to begin classifying different types of movement, and deciding which gets shot and which does not.

More ominously, it is also possible that his amygdala was conditioned to fire off in rage and/or threat in response to the visage of an agitated woman through repeated interactions with his wife regarding the divorce which each triggered rage and threat. When he saw another agitated woman he was overtaken with rage and a sense of threat, and that helped trigger the events. There is no way to tell now, but I would not be surprised. Everything cognitive is the amygdala-mechanism.

^Aaaaaaaaaaaallllllll of this is why lawyers and (American) police are fast becoming some of the most hated people on the planet.

This is literally an entire page summation of "unfit for duty, but strapped on a gun anyway and killed an innocent person" all artfully twisted to divorce the man from the machine running him. You see, the machine killed that woman. Not the man. The man is really a victim here. A victim of the machine that runs the man.

It is to literally absolve anyone of any crime they could ever commit.

[Number one bummer]

(07-19-2017 10:35 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 08:36 AM)homersheineken Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 04:19 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Cameras for all of them, even if you have to up their pay by 10k a year.
...

Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

The cops DID have body cameras and cameras in the vehicle.

They recorded everything that happened - after they turned them on, right after the murder.

It showed them attending to the woman after she was shot.

I shouldn't need to add it but I will. There should be no "off" button on the cameras. We're not living in the stone age, fashioning 1.44 inch floppy disks out of slate. Everything going into those cameras can be streamed back to base or at very least manually uploaded at the end of a shift. This is not complicated shit. My oldest son can grapple with this technology in his free time after school.

What's more, this technology has the capacity to do away with most of the mundane bullshit paperwork that cops are always bitching takes up so much of their time. Instead of writing a detailed 500 word report covering the pursuit of a shoplifter they can simply reference "event @ 14:25 through 15:02 March 11, 2017". They lose ten minutes uploading their day into the server at the station and gain an hour of not having a pen in their hand.

The fact is that despite police protests about how they're assumed guilty when something goes wrong THEY are the ones most resistant to having to document their entire shifts for reasons that everyone else in society is painfully aware of.

I conservatively estimate that if perpetual surveillance of the cops themselves became a reality then between ten and twenty percent of police would quietly find a convenient excuse to quit the force, and frankly the force would be better off without those particular cops.

I'm not sure about other countries but solely video would not work for the American justice system. You need written facts to substantiate a charge, decide bail or even read from defendant pleads no contest. Try saying "watch the video" to a judge and defense attorney when on the stand testifying, it's not going to be pretty.

Moving on to cameras being recording the whole time. Look at it from a slimy defense attorney's viewpoint. You arrest their client so they request all your video for the past year(which can be done under FOIA). Has anyone here not said something while at the job or commuting that could be taken out of context by the media/SJW attorney. I can see it now, a defense attorney attacking officer on stand because he said he voted for Trump and that's why he arrested his Mexican client for rape. Or the music the officer listen too has "homophobic" lyrics and that's why he targeted the tranny exposing himself in the wrong bathroom. I like cameras for evidence of arrests and to show it was done professionally. I wouldn't want people hearing my choice in patrol car music or certain "non-pc" phone calls.

Also good luck uploading 8-12 hours of video in 10 minutes.

[Captainstabbin]

(07-19-2017 06:29 AM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 10:07 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

American cops play by special rules.

Unlike "civilians", after they shoot someone they have several days to get their stories straight with the other officers before they're legally forced to make a statement.

You can say that again. The "brotherhood of blue" is very real. I have family and friends that are either retired or current "LEOs*"; I've been told shit that had me speechless.

The best interaction with police is no interaction with the police.

*There was a shift, at least in the USA, when the function of the police changed from "peace officers" to "law enforcement officers". That's actually a big reason why some of my folks retired ASAFP: The veterans were put off by the "Nazi" (their description, not mine) mentality of the newbies.

I wonder if they feel the same way about a diversity hire who was forced on them.

They'll turn on him if the evidence is too damaging but, even then, I doubt he sees prison time. Remember Ian Birk? He shot that Indian dude who was walking with a whittling knife in Seattle. Ian was forced to resign but charges were never filed.

My guess is that this will be ruled unjustified by the review board, Noor will resign and no criminal charges will be filed. There will be a huge settlement but the fiancé, the one most affected by this, probably won't see a dime.

It's interesting that they're trying to assign blame to BOTH officers, not just Noor. It's subtle, but the coverage reads like this:

Quote:

Once that happens, Hennepin County attorney Mike Freeman -- not a grand jury -- will decide whether either of the two officers involved should be charged in Ruszczyk's death.

[PapayaTapper]

Dont know when it happened but every small town in the US has a "a tactical response team" on their PD









It says "Police" on everything but I dont get a "protected and served" vibe for some reason

[Captainstabbin]

(07-19-2017 01:11 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Dont know when it happened but every small town in the US has a "a tactical response team" on their PD

It says "Police" on everything but I dont get a "protected and served" vibe for some reason

Homeland security money and the "war on terror" changed everything.

[PuppetMaster]

(07-19-2017 01:23 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

(07-19-2017 01:11 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Dont know when it happened but every small town in the US has a "a tactical response team" on their PD

It says "Police" on everything but I dont get a "protected and served" vibe for some reason

Homeland security money and the "war on terror" changed everything.

They look like a goddamned military. It's fucking insane especially when you consider we may not even be any safer today then what we were in 2001 and 2003; with Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya in disarray.

[brick tamland]

Some cans of worms will be open all round.
The explanation that the cop thought the victim/deceased was carrying a gun, usually passes. Mohammed should try it. She was carrying a mobile phone. It can look like a gun. Wallets also look like guns sometimes. Depends who's carrying the wallet, like when 3 cops fired 41 shots at Amadou Diallo.

[PuppetMaster]

Look at this shit











Remove the Police logos and give them a desert background and you'd think they were marines fighting against jihadist.

Are all of these weapons/equipment necessary?

[kaotic]

If you guys haven't realized it yet, we've had militarized police for over a decade now.

Captain's right, the patriot act changed everything, gave more freedom and less oversight of LEO's AND upped the ante by giving them military grade hardware.

Sooner or later most will be the foot soldiers of the globalists.

We always talked NWO enforcing their rule with these sorts of soldiers.


Shitty thing is besides the PA & Homeland Security - cultural marxism is lashing out at the law - the law is fighting back.


You can't sit here and tell me there aren't abuses of power, there aren't revenue quotas cops have to fill, there isn't unlawful search and seizures of innocents assets because of "suspicion", there isn't profiling, AND there isn't a "Blue Shield/Line" where cops protect themselves and are backed by the their Police Protective Leauge"

As sad as its to say, sometimes the best thing, is DO NOT INVOLVE POLICE.

Sometimes the best you can do is gtfo out of the area and escape any shit that is happening to you.

[weambulance]

Quote:

Are all of these weapons/equipment necessary?

To do the job, absolutely not.

To make cops feel like hardcore badass special forces types, it's essential.

As for when it started happening, just see here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1033_program

[brick tamland]

@PUPPET MASTER
@PAPAYATAPPER

I'm not keen to delve into the C word, but it's looking more clear that with that level of a hard line being taken, their target is the man in the street. They will be protecting and serving the 1% against the likely coming uprising and rebellion.

[General Stalin]

My my how things have changed.

[Cattle Rustler]

I don't know guys....I mean Australia was a penal colony so this means she had criminal DNA in her. She was going to eventually commit a crime. The cop helped prevent a future crime from taking place, This is not much different than Trayvon Marvin.

Don't know why y'all boys are so anti-blue this time compared to other cases. Hmmm.....

[Kona]

(07-19-2017 10:16 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

She was wearing "Assault" Pajamas, how much more senseless violence must occur before Assault pajamas are banned?

Actually they call them "Pyjamas" in Australia.

Its unfortunate that someone had to die for me to learn that.

Aloha!

[Suits]

(07-19-2017 02:00 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

My my how things have changed.

We need to bring those pants back.

[nomadbrah]

del

[ed pluribus unum]

(07-19-2017 01:11 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Dont know when it happened but every small town in the US has a "a tactical response team" on their PD

I would recommend Rise of the Warrior Cop by Radley Balko for an explanation of how we got here from there. He starts with the origins of the 4th amendment and brings it right to the paramilitary "operators" in every little jurisdiction that we see today.