[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-22-2017 01:59 PM)Ocelot Wrote:  

'Incitement to racism'

So not just thought crime, but encouraging thought crime? It's a good job they acted so quickly to remove these dangerous individuals before they could threaten Germany's free and open society.

The heart of the problem is that totalitarian scum like 'Holger Münch' and 'Mr. Mihr' don't feel enough fear of their own population. It's pitiful that there's no shortage of muslims willing to end their own lives just to instil terror in the heart of their enemies (the same 'enemies' who invite them into their country, clothe, house and feed them), but a complete absence of German patriots willing to do the same.

Germans will continue to lose their liberties, because they continue to demonstrate an unwillingness to fight for them. Based on personal experience, I suspect if you showed the average German citizen news like this they'd probably be relieved.

The American Revolution began over less than they're gladly enduring.

Especially this phrase of "racism" can mean pretty much anything nowadays.

Pro Trump button = racism.
Anti feminism = racism.
Anti mass immigration of unassimilable immigrants = racism
Posting a news link to a gang rape done by migrants = racism
Quoting the quran = racism
Quoting the opinions of Ex-Muslims, secular Muslims or reformers = racism

The only safe way is to stay completely out of politics or be 100% on board with anything the globalists tell you to.

This is what Orwell meant by 2+2=ANYTHING I TELL YOU IT IS.

Migrants raping you, killing you, not working, not wanting to work, hating you = this is enrichment and you will be persecuted even if you have an opinion against it.

[Lucky]

(06-22-2017 10:14 AM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  

“The still high incidence of punishable hate posting shows a need for police action,” Holger Münch, president of the Federal Criminal Police Office, said in a statement. “Our free society must not allow a climate of fear, threat, criminal violence and violence either on the street or on the internet.”

Quote:

“Our free society must not allow a climate of fear, threat, criminal violence and violence either on the street or on the internet.”

Quote:

“Our free society must not allow"

Our free society must not allow people to be free.

[Foolsgo1d]

(06-22-2017 11:44 AM)Laner Wrote:  

How many times in 100 years can Germany pull this kind of shit?

Well, it appears three.

High IQ + collective mindset + natural fear of outsiders + 2017 misplaced hate = [current thread title].

I don't know the future but there won't be a fourth for Germany.

[spokepoker]

How are they going to actually fine Facebook?

[redpillage]

(06-23-2017 10:15 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  

How are they going to actually fine Facebook?

You're not seeing the forest for the trees, mate. Zuckerberg is ideologically squarely aligned with Merkel and the SJW fanatics. There never (or rarely) will be such a fine as this measure just being used as an excuse to justify more draconian free speech violations, which FB is more than happy to support. Do you think it's a coincidence that so many Islamic terrorist organizations are able to spread their cause through FB so effectively up to this day?

It would be very easy to shut this kind of shit down. Google (which for the record I don't consider a paragon of free speech) did just that a few years ago when Germans were all in a huff about Google Streetview and how it was infringing on people's privacy, yada yada. So instead of jumping through a dozen hoops they told them to pound sand and simply cut it off. Even until today you cannot get Streetview across most of Germany with the exception of a few larger cities (why I actually don't know).

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about personal privacy but how does Streetview affect anyone's privacy if you are able to simply walk through any public street and see the facades with your own eyes? And Streetview is already pixeling out license plates and people's faces. So it was a complete non-issue which nevertheless was strongly pursued because Germans knew that they were going up against an 'evil' corporation and not a religious sect that may actually retaliate violently.

The 'oh you don't like what I do - then fuck off' approach is extremely effective over the long term, especially if your service addresses a real need. Although it does affect one's bottom line it often is the only moral and just thing to do.

One more thing about the Germans. Many cases of apparent cognitive dissonance you may come across can be explained by a nasty little character trait exhibited by Germans, but also Austrians, Dutch, Swedes, the Danish, and other primarily Germanic nations. They love to kick down and kiss up, and they have a huge respect and for anyone wearing a uniform or flashing an official title.

That means although they would never dare to collectively get together and for example all go up against a turkish family clan that's terrorizing their neighborhood, they'll be more than happy to rat out that neighbor next door which may be growing weed in his apartment or the poor schmuck who works until 3:00am and then is forced to park illegally overnight. They know that there will be zero personal consequences to them and they also simply enjoy sticking it to the other guy. Germans are famous for hiding behind laws and regulations and will cut you zero slack if you're in a bind, simply because they can and they think 'it's the right thing to do'.

This is the very same reason why they respond very vehemently against any signs of perceived 'right extremism' whilst at the same time condoning the raping and pillaging of their communities by islamic marauders. Some mistake it for plain old cowardice and there's probably some truth to this, but I think it roots deeper. There is something in the Germanic soul that enslaves them to their leaders. Perhaps too many irreverent warriors have lost their lives over the past century and thus the Germanic gene pool now mostly consists of the left overs, the weaklings, the traitors, and the lemmings. Then again those character traits have been present for centuries now with even Napoleon and Stalin joking about it.

The anti-dote to all this is what in Germany is referred to as the 'Nazi-Keule', the 'Nazi Bluegeon'. Germans will literally do or sacrifice ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING in order to not be called a Nazi. Muslims figured this out years ago and since then have been running circles around the German legal system and at this point have managed to completely uproot the entire nation from the inside out. They were smart enough to realize that they could destroy the system from within by employing the Nazi-Keule every time they didn't get what they wanted. Which has proven to be hugely effective.

[Leonard D Neubache]

^

I would rep you again if I could.

[void]

(06-24-2017 05:22 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 10:15 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  

How are they going to actually fine Facebook?

You're not seeing the forest for the trees, mate. Zuckerberg is ideologically squarely aligned with Merkel and the SJW fanatics. There never (or rarely) will be such a fine as this measure just being used as an excuse to justify more draconian free speech violations, which FB is more than happy to support. Do you think it's a coincidence that so many Islamic terrorist organizations are able to spread their cause through FB so effectively up to this day?

It would be very easy to shut this kind of shit down. Google (which for the record I don't consider a paragon of free speech) did just that a few years ago when Germans were all in a huff about Google Streetview and how it was infringing on people's privacy, yada yada. So instead of jumping through a dozen hoops they told them to pound sand and simply cut it off. Even until today you cannot get Streetview across most of Germany with the exception of a few larger cities (why I actually don't know).

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about personal privacy but how does Streetview affect anyone's privacy if you are able to simply walk through any public street and see the facades with your own eyes? And Streetview is already pixeling out license plates and people's faces. So it was a complete non-issue which nevertheless was strongly pursued because Germans knew that they were going up against an 'evil' corporation and not a religious sect that may actually retaliate violently.

The 'oh you don't like what I do - then fuck off' approach is extremely effective over the long term, especially if your service addresses a real need. Although it does affect one's bottom line it often is the only moral and just thing to do.

One more thing about the Germans. Many cases of apparent cognitive dissonance you may come across can be explained by a nasty little character trait exhibited by Germans, but also Austrians, Dutch, Swedes, the Danish, and other primarily Germanic nations. They love to kick down and kiss up, and they have a huge respect and for anyone wearing a uniform or flashing an official title.

That means although they would never dare to collectively get together and for example all go up against a turkish family clan that's terrorizing their neighborhood, they'll be more than happy to rat out that neighbor next door which may be growing weed in his apartment or the poor schmuck who works until 3:00am and then is forced to park illegally overnight. They know that there will be zero personal consequences to them and they also simply enjoy sticking it to the other guy. Germans are famous for hiding behind laws and regulations and will cut you zero slack if you're in a bind, simply because they can and they think 'it's the right thing to do'.

This is the very same reason why they respond very vehemently against any signs of perceived 'right extremism' whilst at the same time condoning the raping and pillaging of their communities by islamic marauders. Some mistake it for plain old cowardice and there's probably some truth to this, but I think it roots deeper. There is something in the Germanic soul that enslaves them to their leaders. Perhaps too many irreverent warriors have lost their lives over the past century and thus the Germanic gene pool now mostly consists of the left overs, the weaklings, the traitors, and the lemmings. Then again those character traits have been present for centuries now with even Napoleon and Stalin joking about it.

The anti-dote to all this is what in Germany is referred to as the 'Nazi-Keule', the 'Nazi Bluegeon'. Germans will literally do or sacrifice ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING in order to not be called a Nazi. Muslims figured this out years ago and since then have been running circles around the German legal system and at this point have managed to completely uproot the entire nation from the inside out. They were smart enough to realize that they could destroy the system from within by employing the Nazi-Keule every time they didn't get what they wanted. Which has proven to be hugely effective.

From an evolutionary standpoint being brave in a battle of guns is a disadvantage, because no bravery can overcome the deadliness of a bullet. 1on1 combat is not the reality of modern warfare.

My grand father told me who died first in the war in Russia, it was the tall guys. So those prehistoric tall warrior genes died because being a bigger target for a bullet is a disadvantage. Tall guys also need more food, they have a higher calorie burn rate by default. So if you are freezing in Russian winter, every pound of useless muscle will kill you faster in case your calorie intake is restricted to the max.

I already tried to explain very often, that we get indoctrinated in school that everything rightwing or extreme-rightwing is "nazi". And if you are labeled a Nazi in Germany, your are an outcast. How would your social standing be, if you said "I love America and their freedom. USA USA USA!" in North Korea? (this is an exaggeration) Nobody can understand, because what every other country calls patriotism is "being a nazi" in Germany.
We are cucked since the end of WWII.

There have been more civilizations that already disappeared, the German culture will follow.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

The Frankfurst school and Prussian educational indoctrination started there and was only later copied across the world.

This was true even before WWI - the total obedience to the system above as long as there is a seeming respectability and authority behind it. In addition you have now the guilt pushing and the constant propaganda that all those perceived cases of enrichment are just single unfortunate accidents:

Germany like Sweden is on it's way to have no-go-zones and little mini-Caliphates appearing:

Germany is intellectually defeated. It will only rise when the Caliphate starts killing thousands daily and putting heads on pikes. Only then will the remainder of the Germans recapture the Teutonic fighting spirit. Until then it will be top-down enforcement and STASI denunciations - "I heard my neighbor say something bad about Islam!"

[reciproke]

Quote:

My grand father told me who died first in the war in Russia, it was the tall guys. So those prehistoric tall warrior genes died because being a bigger target for a bullet is a disadvantage

Not according to the following study:

https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/...to-survive

"Surviving soldiers were on average more than one inch (3.33 cm) taller than fallen soldiers."

Why?

1) Height correlates with a healthy development and genetic health. This means better physical and mental fitness as well a higher survivability in general.

2) Height correlates with with intelligence (which probably correlates with genetics and development, as well).

Quote:

Many cases of apparent cognitive dissonance you may come across can be explained by a nasty little character trait exhibited by Germans, but also Austrians, Dutch, Swedes, the Danish, and other primarily Germanic nations. They love to kick down and kiss up, and they have a huge respect and for anyone wearing a uniform or flashing an official title.

I find your statement rather odd. We have to be precise when choosing words and thoughts, as they will ultimately shape our reality. And your statement that Germanics have an immanent tendency to Authorianism is not only factually wrong, but malicious. Cultural Marxists/Anti-Whites are pushing the exact same narrative. I fundamenteally reject your whole premise.

If there is an immanent weakness, it's the naivety and hospitality of Germanics. Siegfried in the Nibelungen personifies this childlike naivety, and it became his demise. But regardless, Germanics have beein fighting Tyranny forever, and readily defended what is theirs. Sure, the idea of loyalty until death is a recurring phenomenon. But framing it in a pathological manner like "there something in the Germanic soul that enslaves them to their leaders" is, mildly put, appalling.

The real culprit is the Prussian Education System. But a more fitting term would be Industrialised, Materialist Education System, as it is an idea found all over the globe. This world views humans in purely economic and utilitarian terms, and disconnects them from their roots, their blood and traditions.

And even that is not the real culprit. The real enemy is this world view paired with Cultural Marxism, Globalism and (((Frankfurt School))). The biggest red pill realisation for me was that this is all by design. It is all a big Social Engineering experiment by a mentally ill minority.

Of course, we as individuals have to take responsibility for what is happening to our countries. But what do you expect from humans that have been psychologically abused in their childhood by Cultural Marxist ideas, that have been seperated from their blood and traditions? The real problem are the enablers of this brain washing.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Back then the poorer men were definitely shorter than the richer ones. WWI showed this as the new recruits grew by up to 3 inches due to first time in their lives getting daily meat! So it is difficult to tell whether truly the best men died or were killed.

What is yet clear about the German psyche is that this endemic human trait of kissing ass and kicking downwards is actually less seen in Germany.

Actually Germans venerate wealth and power less than other tribes.

I am reminded of Middle Eastern Muslims who instantly treat a rich man coming in Armani to a mosque with more veneration than a seemingly learned old Imam. They viscerally adore wealth and give the wealthy man instant major praise. Americans also have greater respect than Germans as Rockefeller even noted with disgust that he could shoot up workers and in the very same town a few months later he would be treated like royalty.
Also think of the Japanese where superiors both in companies as well as politics can even beat their underlings with impunity.

Sure there is a certain pettiness in the Germans where they love to stick to rules and constraints - also fighting the neighbor has a long tradition there.

I would rather characterize the Germanic character traits as both useful as well as dangerous - it is the strong desire to stick to rules and authority. The Swiss are even worse in that respect of people who love to stick to even the most idiotic rules. Austrians are a bit more lax in that respect.

Also reciproke pointed out the culprit - it is mainly cultural marxism that was clearly anti-capitalist, leftists especially in the 1970s. The leftie mindset was taught and is still prevalent, but the biggest weapon is the "Nazi-keule", the Nazi-guilt-trip in addition to the inane bashing and equating everything German with the Holocoust. It is as if all the cultural, scientific and economic contributions of the Germans is totally wiped out by the few short years of Nazi Germany.

I think that similarly to the Swedes that they managed to exploit those tribes in simple tool - they used their compassion, their relative wealth, their guilt, their Christian spirit, also they used the already prevalent strong leftist tendencies. The Germans like orders and rule.

Still - I am not so sure if most European tribes will survive this century - the globalists work so hard at exterminating them. Maybe a few million of the native nationalistic French and Germans will be here after the world war with Islam. AT least they will also be methodical when fighting the Caliphate as well.

[kamoz]

(06-24-2017 08:30 AM)reciproke Wrote:  

Quote:

My grand father told me who died first in the war in Russia, it was the tall guys. So those prehistoric tall warrior genes died because being a bigger target for a bullet is a disadvantage

Not according to the following study:

https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/...to-survive

"Surviving soldiers were on average more than one inch (3.33 cm) taller than fallen soldiers."

Why?

1) Height correlates with a healthy development and genetic health. This means better physical and mental fitness as well a higher survivability in general.

2) Height correlates with with intelligence (which probably correlates with genetics and development, as well).

Walk around any EE country that suffered heavy casualties in the war and you'll see that the vast majority of women are as tall or even taller than the vast majority of men.

[redpillage]

(06-24-2017 06:45 AM)void Wrote:  

I already tried to explain very often, that we get indoctrinated in school that everything rightwing or extreme-rightwing is "nazi". And if you are labeled a Nazi in Germany, your are an outcast. How would your social standing be, if you said "I love America and their freedom. USA USA USA!" in North Korea? (this is an exaggeration) Nobody can understand, because what every other country calls patriotism is "being a nazi" in Germany.
We are cucked since the end of WWII.

There have been more civilizations that already disappeared, the German culture will follow.

Nimm's nicht persönlich, ich habe über ein Jahrzehnt in der BRD gewohnt und weiß ganz genau wovon Du sprichst. Aber was ich beschrieben habe waren die Hauptgründe warum ich D. in den frühen 90ern verlassen habe. Ich konnte die Leute einfach nicht ausstehen und das war lange bevor die Linksradikalen die politische Szene übernommen hatten.

Don't take it personal, I used to live in Germany for over a decade and know exactly what you're talking about. But what I outlined above was the very reason why I wound up leaving for the United States in the early 90s. I just couldn't stand the people and that was long before the extreme left took over the political process.

[redpillage]

(06-24-2017 08:30 AM)reciproke Wrote:  

I find your statement rather odd. We have to be precise when choosing words and thoughts, as they will ultimately shape our reality. And your statement that Germanics have an immanent tendency to Authorianism is not only factually wrong, but malicious. Cultural Marxists/Anti-Whites are pushing the exact same narrative. I fundamenteally reject your whole premise.

If there is an immanent weakness, it's the naivety and hospitality of Germanics. Siegfried in the Nibelungen personifies this childlike naivety, and it became his demise. But regardless, Germanics have beein fighting Tyranny forever, and readily defended what is theirs. Sure, the idea of loyalty until death is a recurring phenomenon. But framing it in a pathological manner like "there something in the Germanic soul that enslaves them to their leaders" is, mildly put, appalling.

The real culprit is the Prussian Education System. But a more fitting term would be Industrialised, Materialist Education System, as it is an idea found all over the globe. This world views humans in purely economic and utilitarian terms, and disconnects them from their roots, their blood and traditions.

And even that is not the real culprit. The real enemy is this world view paired with Cultural Marxism, Globalism and (((Frankfurt School))). The biggest red pill realisation for me was that this is all by design. It is all a big Social Engineering experiment by a mentally ill minority.

Of course, we as individuals have to take responsibility for what is happening to our countries. But what do you expect from humans that have been psychologically abused in their childhood by Cultural Marxist ideas, that have been seperated from their blood and traditions? The real problem are the enablers of this brain washing.

So I hurt your feelings? Bruised egos or emotional stress is not a counter argument, thus something tells me I won't have trouble sleeping tonight. Nobody cares if you 'fundamentally reject' my analysis. All one has to do is to look at RESULTS and focus on historical REALITY. How many times over the past century has Germany slipped into some sort of authoritarian regime? Mmmh, let's count:

• Nazi Germany
• DDR (GRD - a.ka. East Germany)
• BRD 2.0 (united Germany under Merkel)
  

One time may be explained away with naivety or simply being a catastrophic mistake. Two times makes you really wonder. And three times - well, we have an expression for that in the States - three strikes and you're out.

For everyone else, let me present you another really annoying character trait of the Germans. If there's a simple answer for a problem it must invariably be wrong because reality is so much more complicated. Plus we Germans are superior and the only ones who truly understand how the world works. Therefore it is our duty to make everyone else see things our way, if not voluntary then by force.

Übrigens, Du bist neu hier and vielleicht ist es dir entgangen daß ich einmal einer von euch war. Glücklicherweise habe ich dieses Unglücksland als junger Mann verlassen.

[redpillage]

(06-24-2017 11:20 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

I would rather characterize the Germanic character traits as both useful as well as dangerous - it is the strong desire to stick to rules and authority. The Swiss are even worse in that respect of people who love to stick to even the most idiotic rules. Austrians are a bit more lax in that respect.

Completely agree about the Swiss being worse and the Austrians being a lot more relaxed. I personally really enjoy spending time in Austria, not only for the beautiful landscapes and the mountains but even more so the people.

Also, when talking about kicking down and kissing up I was intentionally not referring to wealth because you're absolutely spot on about them not caring too much about that. But what they very much care about is official title, social status, and of course law and order, which they obsessively abide to up to the point of international ridicule.

I think what saved me personally as a child were all those Monty Python and Black Adder episodes ;-)

[Elster]

My bird who is german,and a very proud one at that,would agree with you, brah!

[void]

(06-24-2017 08:30 AM)reciproke Wrote:  

Quote:

My grand father told me who died first in the war in Russia, it was the tall guys. So those prehistoric tall warrior genes died because being a bigger target for a bullet is a disadvantage

Not according to the following study:

https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/...to-survive

"Surviving soldiers were on average more than one inch (3.33 cm) taller than fallen soldiers."

Why?

1) Height correlates with a healthy development and genetic health. This means better physical and mental fitness as well a higher survivability in general.

2) Height correlates with with intelligence (which probably correlates with genetics and development, as well).

the data for this study is from post WWI

[Latinopan]

(06-24-2017 05:22 AM)redpillage Wrote:  

(06-23-2017 10:15 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  

How are they going to actually fine Facebook?

You're not seeing the forest for the trees, mate. Zuckerberg is ideologically squarely aligned with Merkel and the SJW fanatics. There never (or rarely) will be such a fine as this measure just being used as an excuse to justify more draconian free speech violations, which FB is more than happy to support. Do you think it's a coincidence that so many Islamic terrorist organizations are able to spread their cause through FB so effectively up to this day?

It would be very easy to shut this kind of shit down. Google (which for the record I don't consider a paragon of free speech) did just that a few years ago when Germans were all in a huff about Google Streetview and how it was infringing on people's privacy, yada yada. So instead of jumping through a dozen hoops they told them to pound sand and simply cut it off. Even until today you cannot get Streetview across most of Germany with the exception of a few larger cities (why I actually don't know).

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about personal privacy but how does Streetview affect anyone's privacy if you are able to simply walk through any public street and see the facades with your own eyes? And Streetview is already pixeling out license plates and people's faces. So it was a complete non-issue which nevertheless was strongly pursued because Germans knew that they were going up against an 'evil' corporation and not a religious sect that may actually retaliate violently.

The 'oh you don't like what I do - then fuck off' approach is extremely effective over the long term, especially if your service addresses a real need. Although it does affect one's bottom line it often is the only moral and just thing to do.

One more thing about the Germans. Many cases of apparent cognitive dissonance you may come across can be explained by a nasty little character trait exhibited by Germans, but also Austrians, Dutch, Swedes, the Danish, and other primarily Germanic nations. They love to kick down and kiss up, and they have a huge respect and for anyone wearing a uniform or flashing an official title.

That means although they would never dare to collectively get together and for example all go up against a turkish family clan that's terrorizing their neighborhood, they'll be more than happy to rat out that neighbor next door which may be growing weed in his apartment or the poor schmuck who works until 3:00am and then is forced to park illegally overnight. They know that there will be zero personal consequences to them and they also simply enjoy sticking it to the other guy. Germans are famous for hiding behind laws and regulations and will cut you zero slack if you're in a bind, simply because they can and they think 'it's the right thing to do'.

This is the very same reason why they respond very vehemently against any signs of perceived 'right extremism' whilst at the same time condoning the raping and pillaging of their communities by islamic marauders. Some mistake it for plain old cowardice and there's probably some truth to this, but I think it roots deeper. There is something in the Germanic soul that enslaves them to their leaders. Perhaps too many irreverent warriors have lost their lives over the past century and thus the Germanic gene pool now mostly consists of the left overs, the weaklings, the traitors, and the lemmings. Then again those character traits have been present for centuries now with even Napoleon and Stalin joking about it.

The anti-dote to all this is what in Germany is referred to as the 'Nazi-Keule', the 'Nazi Bluegeon'. Germans will literally do or sacrifice ANYTHING and I mean ANYTHING in order to not be called a Nazi. Muslims figured this out years ago and since then have been running circles around the German legal system and at this point have managed to completely uproot the entire nation from the inside out. They were smart enough to realize that they could destroy the system from within by employing the Nazi-Keule every time they didn't get what they wanted. Which has proven to be hugely effective.

Great post, on the top of that, they have been trying to push for an internet law against "hate speech" using the UN, that means, if you are an American in America saying something about immigration rape case on FB or Tweeter that happened in Germany, then the German government will contact the USA government to have you arrested in USA soil for violating international hate speech law.

This is not the first time they try something like this using the UN, they tried to use the UN to have a massive international gun control law called U.N. Arms Trade Treaty

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-24-2017 02:13 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  

Great post, on the top of that, they have been trying to push for an internet law against "hate speech" using the UN, that means, if you are an American in America saying something about immigration rape case on FB or Tweeter that happened in Germany, then the German government will contact the USA government to have you arrested in USA soil for violating international hate speech law.

This is not the first time they try something like this using the UN, they tried to use the UN to have a massive international gun control law called U.N. Arms Trade Treaty

That is still some time off.

But it will happen once the global government has been created for sure.

[RaccoonFace]

Yet another quintessential German proposal: they want to introduce state malware that will spy on everyone's computer activities in real time.

Quote:

"The government wants to adopt a comprehensive monitoring law. It contains, among other things, the so-called State Trojans. In this way, investigative authorities can secretly use malicious software for monitoring purposes. The public debate has so far failed. This is because, That the law is introduced by the back door and hardly anyone knows.

"On the agenda of the Bundestag this Thursday is one of the most extensive monitoring laws in the history of the Federal Republic. The Bundestag should decide at the request of the political groups of the CDU / CSU and the SPD the law on the introduction of the so-called Staatsstrojaner.

"The investigation authorities are thus given the opportunity, Secretly to play malicious software on private computers, laptops, mobile phones and tablets - to monitor the communication directly at the source and to read the ongoing communication. You can also use these methods to access messenger services such as Whatsapp.

"At the same time, the planned law allows online search; A malicious software must also be installed on the device; It can then be accessed not only on the ongoing communication, but on all stored contents. It is therefore possible to read the entire hard disk. [...]

"The law on the new methods "in the secret infiltration of an information technology system" (as the legal foundations) was put in as a trojan: the legal committee inserted the planned permission for the state hacking a few weeks ago into a already running law procedure, Which included, among other things, the withdrawal of driving licenses for non-road traffic. There the law on the introduction of the state trojan and the state computer monitoring was hidden.

"The catalog of criminal offenses, in which the state infiltration of private computers is to be possible, is very long, Ranging from terrorism to corruption, to the "misguided misuse of asylum applications". Not only the equipment of an accused can be searched, but also the equipment of other persons, if the investigators thinks otherwise."

http://archive.is/YzY1Y

[redpillage]

(06-24-2017 03:03 PM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  

Yet another quintessential German proposal: they want to introduce state malware that will spy on everyone's computer activities in real time.

Quote:

"The government wants to adopt a comprehensive monitoring law. It contains, among other things, the so-called State Trojans. In this way, investigative authorities can secretly use malicious software for monitoring purposes. The public debate has so far failed. This is because, That the law is introduced by the back door and hardly anyone knows.

"On the agenda of the Bundestag this Thursday is one of the most extensive monitoring laws in the history of the Federal Republic. The Bundestag should decide at the request of the political groups of the CDU / CSU and the SPD the law on the introduction of the so-called Staatsstrojaner.

"The investigation authorities are thus given the opportunity, Secretly to play malicious software on private computers, laptops, mobile phones and tablets - to monitor the communication directly at the source and to read the ongoing communication. You can also use these methods to access messenger services such as Whatsapp.

"At the same time, the planned law allows online search; A malicious software must also be installed on the device; It can then be accessed not only on the ongoing communication, but on all stored contents. It is therefore possible to read the entire hard disk. [...]

"The law on the new methods "in the secret infiltration of an information technology system" (as the legal foundations) was put in as a trojan: the legal committee inserted the planned permission for the state hacking a few weeks ago into a already running law procedure, Which included, among other things, the withdrawal of driving licenses for non-road traffic. There the law on the introduction of the state trojan and the state computer monitoring was hidden.

"The catalog of criminal offenses, in which the state infiltration of private computers is to be possible, is very long, Ranging from terrorism to corruption, to the "misguided misuse of asylum applications". Not only the equipment of an accused can be searched, but also the equipment of other persons, if the investigators thinks otherwise."

http://archive.is/YzY1Y

Yes, yes - the Germans will probably swallow that pill as well without putting up much resistance. But hey, at least they don't have Google Streetview in Germany which would be a major infringement of personal privacy!

[nomadbrah]

Isn't one German hating thread enough?

It's almost as if getting 10 million of your best killed and then undergoing 50 years of brainwashing has an effect. Ask the japanese too.

[Mage]

(06-24-2017 03:03 PM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  

Yet another quintessential German proposal: they want to introduce state malware that will spy on everyone's computer activities in real time.

Quote:

"The government wants to adopt a comprehensive monitoring law. It contains, among other things, the so-called State Trojans. In this way, investigative authorities can secretly use malicious software for monitoring purposes. The public debate has so far failed. This is because, That the law is introduced by the back door and hardly anyone knows.

"On the agenda of the Bundestag this Thursday is one of the most extensive monitoring laws in the history of the Federal Republic. The Bundestag should decide at the request of the political groups of the CDU / CSU and the SPD the law on the introduction of the so-called Staatsstrojaner.

"The investigation authorities are thus given the opportunity, Secretly to play malicious software on private computers, laptops, mobile phones and tablets - to monitor the communication directly at the source and to read the ongoing communication. You can also use these methods to access messenger services such as Whatsapp.

"At the same time, the planned law allows online search; A malicious software must also be installed on the device; It can then be accessed not only on the ongoing communication, but on all stored contents. It is therefore possible to read the entire hard disk. [...]

"The law on the new methods "in the secret infiltration of an information technology system" (as the legal foundations) was put in as a trojan: the legal committee inserted the planned permission for the state hacking a few weeks ago into a already running law procedure, Which included, among other things, the withdrawal of driving licenses for non-road traffic. There the law on the introduction of the state trojan and the state computer monitoring was hidden.

"The catalog of criminal offenses, in which the state infiltration of private computers is to be possible, is very long, Ranging from terrorism to corruption, to the "misguided misuse of asylum applications". Not only the equipment of an accused can be searched, but also the equipment of other persons, if the investigators thinks otherwise."

http://archive.is/YzY1Y

Infecting your populace with troyans and raiding people's homes for free speech maybe not Nazism but it is textbook Fascism.

Funny how Hitler and Germany in west is vilified for being nazis (nationalists) and not for being fascists (government supremacists).

Did you know that in Russian and former Soviet culture the Hitlers regime is commonly refereed to as Fascism and not as Nazism! That's because Russians themselves have managed to maintain strong nationalist sentiment, not like Europe. Nobody really accepts idea that nationalism is bad there, but after the Soviet Union many see how too much state power is bad (they still love a strong leader trough).

Until my teenage years growing up in former soviet republic I considered Hitler's followers to be evil Fascists. Only when I watched Indiana Jones movies and played Wolfenstein 3D games in English I learned of the western term - Nazism. I thought it being weird why west calls the same regime in a different way. But I couldn't guess why. Now I know.

if you know any Russian go and ask him what are they celebrating on the ninth of may and they will tell you - "the day of victory over Fascism". That is the official name of the major Holiday.

Fascism seems to be strong and alive in Germany still, however.

In before WW2 Fascists raided homes of Jews.

Now Fascists raid the homes of Germans - history repeats itself with a twist - time for WW3, or for concentration camps for Germans, or for both and much worse?

[infowarrior1]

(06-24-2017 11:20 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Back then the poorer men were definitely shorter than the richer ones. WWI showed this as the new recruits grew by up to 3 inches due to first time in their lives getting daily meat! So it is difficult to tell whether truly the best men died or were killed.

What is yet clear about the German psyche is that this endemic human trait of kissing ass and kicking downwards is actually less seen in Germany.

Actually Germans venerate wealth and power less than other tribes.

I am reminded of Middle Eastern Muslims who instantly treat a rich man coming in Armani to a mosque with more veneration than a seemingly learned old Imam. They viscerally adore wealth and give the wealthy man instant major praise. Americans also have greater respect than Germans as Rockefeller even noted with disgust that he could shoot up workers and in the very same town a few months later he would be treated like royalty.
Also think of the Japanese where superiors both in companies as well as politics can even beat their underlings with impunity.

Sure there is a certain pettiness in the Germans where they love to stick to rules and constraints - also fighting the neighbor has a long tradition there.

I would rather characterize the Germanic character traits as both useful as well as dangerous - it is the strong desire to stick to rules and authority. The Swiss are even worse in that respect of people who love to stick to even the most idiotic rules. Austrians are a bit more lax in that respect.

Also reciproke pointed out the culprit - it is mainly cultural marxism that was clearly anti-capitalist, leftists especially in the 1970s. The leftie mindset was taught and is still prevalent, but the biggest weapon is the "Nazi-keule", the Nazi-guilt-trip in addition to the inane bashing and equating everything German with the Holocoust. It is as if all the cultural, scientific and economic contributions of the Germans is totally wiped out by the few short years of Nazi Germany.

I think that similarly to the Swedes that they managed to exploit those tribes in simple tool - they used their compassion, their relative wealth, their guilt, their Christian spirit, also they used the already prevalent strong leftist tendencies. The Germans like orders and rule.

Still - I am not so sure if most European tribes will survive this century - the globalists work so hard at exterminating them. Maybe a few million of the native nationalistic French and Germans will be here after the world war with Islam. AT least they will also be methodical when fighting the Caliphate as well.

Say Zelscorpion. What are in your opinion the peoples that have strong rightist tendencies and why?

Also how is it that people like the Swedes have strong leftist tendencies in the 1st place?

[Elster]

@ Infowarrior:
Aide from the fact that Sweden was "neutral" (with strong axis sympathies) during WWII you will notice that both states share a penchant for government control and influence over private life (never mind Google Street view).
On the case of the swedes it is also interesting to observe that unlike the Germans they've spent a longer amount of time without being involved at least oficially in wars since the beginning of the 20th century...

[stugatz]

"Incitement to racism". Jesus fucking Christ.

At this point I almost want the country to become an Islamic state. They're so gone now, they're far bigger enemies than Russia when it comes to politics, and need to lose influence as quickly as possible. Trump was cozying up to the dictators of Saudi Arabia and Egypt for a reason...the "free" countries are arguably far more fucked up than the authoritarian ones.

For anyone who hasn't read "The New Totalitarian Temptation", do so and be horrified. The EU has to be the greatest threat to the society redpillers want to live in.