[Australia Sucks]

Global man I have spent a few months in South America, believe me I know how hard it is to do basic shit and how every day somebody is trying to fuck you over or is being incompetent. I agree buying a property will be a painful process dealing with moronic bureaucrats and crooked real estate agents, etc. I am not denying this. I will try to minimize the damage by only using reputable foreigners (as opposed to Chileans) for my lawyers, inspectors, buyers agent, etc. I expect some delays and hiccups and also will as cautious as possible e.g. I will be getting second opinions, won't be rushing into anything, will read the fine print, etc. But yes, there is still a chance I could get fucked over. I acknowledge the risks.

As for me mentioning the mountains and beaches and skiing a few hours drive from Santiago, it seems like a contradiction, but just because there are mountains and beaches it does not mean that they have any live-able/decent cities next to those mountains or beaches (which is why I asked previously if there were any good mountain or beach cities). Yeah I realized that Chilean beaches might not be great for swimming but from pictures they at least look scenic/good for some seaside treks/walks which means occasional day/weekend trips from Santiago can be worthwhile.

As for countries in South America you actually can't even look at women by country. You have to break it down to the city level. For example in Colombia Bogota many girls speak English, they like foreigners and are really hot. Santa Marta girls are generally fat and ugly and rude entitled cunts (also they do not speak English) who dislike foreigners. It feels like two different countries.

Global man I am not stuck on beaches in Chile and have already agreed with your advice to forget about the beaches. I was just correcting factual errors in the post of BoiBoi.

I found Santiago girls to be attractive. While they were slightly behind Bogota or Cartagena girls, overall in my opinion the were very attractive (do not forget I am coming from Australia, not Ukraine!!). In terms of looks Santiago girls were on par with the rich girls in Lima (e.g. girls in Miraflores) and superior to girls anywhere else in Peru. You can't just compare Chilean girls to Peruvian or Colombian or Brazilian girls. You have to compare city by city. There were heaps of cities that had ugly girls even in Colombia. If you compare on a city by city basis to the rest of South America, while Santiago is probably not in the top 10% for having attractive women but I feel it would be in the top 25% (just my gut feeling) which is good enough for me.

In terms of running Day-game I found Santiago girls spoke more English than any city I had been to in Peru or Colombia and they were more receptive to me than Peruvian and Colombian girls. In fact, so far in my life I have yet to visit a city were girls were friendlier to me or more interested in me than Santiago. To me its daygame paradise!

Rawgod I will try and spend at least 2-3 months in Chile later on before I decide if I want to pull the trigger on anything. I am just using this thread for brainstorming and fact gathering. I have not committed to doing anything yet.

[BoiBoi]

(06-02-2017 05:25 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  

BoiBoi I am curious where in Chile did you work and how long did you live there? Where do you live now?

BoiBoi, there are so many things wrong with what you wrote.

-Firstly why do you think Santiago is a shit-hole? For a city of its size the air quality/pollution is not too bad and the trains and buses are quite good. There are mountains, lots of nice parks and heaps of universities overflowing with attractive and friendly (they like foreigners too) young women, many of whom speak some English. Not too mention the climate (at least during the day) is pretty good for most of the year (yes the winter is pretty fucking cold). It's not a world class city but overall its pleasant. Plus if you drive a few hours from Santiago there are places to go skiing, mountains you can hike, different beaches, etc. Not to mention that it has a major international airport with direct flights to a lot of different places in the world.

-Firstly Santiago more expensive than Munich? Is the guy who said that on crack. For $150,000 USD you can get a decent one bedroom apartment in the center (or other nice area) of Santiago. In Munich a decent one bedroom apartment of a similar size in a central or other good location is between $300,000 and $400,000 Euros. So Munich is at least double the price of Santiago.

-"You have to know Spanish to do so. He showed me the contracts. They are quite a headache." Few foreigners even the ones that speak decent Spanish have good enough Spanish to navigate a complex legal document. That is why there are solicitors, etc that specialize in doing deals (including document translation) to settle purchases/sales of property by foreigners. You just have to find one with a good reputation.

-"When buying an apartment/ a house in Chile, keep in mind that it's an earthquake-ridden country." Building inspections, coupled with checking the earthquake ratings/specifications on the properties, coupled with the right earthquake insurance as well as help from a qualified solicitor or buyers agent will help resolve this issue. Thanks for the tip about buying newer constructed properties.

-"As for buying something in Antofagasta or the North in general. Unless you love the dessert, don't do it. It's so fucking hot and you'll be in the middle of nowhere. Antofagasta is also one of the most expensive places in Chile."

I am not sure where you live but for me I (I live in Sydney which can get quite hot in summer) I would hardly call Antofagasta hot. You can see in the link below the average monthly temperature is quite stable and does not get above the mid 20s degrees Celsius range.

https://weather-and-climate.com/average-...asta,Chile

I am sure you get the odd day here or there which is really hot but where I live (Sydney) is hotter so it isn't a problem for me.

-As for the price on a like for like basis it appears similar to Santiago, its one of the more expensive places in Chile. But you can still get a decent apartment there for $100,000 to $150,000 USD in a central/good location.

Tastes differ but I think Santiago is absolutely a shitty place to live and work. Air pollution, very high prices for everything (unless you go to a local market, this can be really time-consuming), mediocre girls, shitty food, traffic (everybody works in the centre or in the east, hence, everybody heads there and back in the morning), the people are not very nice when compared to Colombians, Mexicans, etc. (Chileans in general, Santiaguenses in particular), the list goes on. Also, trust me, you don't want to live in Santiago Centro long term. Las Condes, Providencia, maybe Nunoa are better options.

Essentially, I found Chile to be the worst country in terms of quality-price-relationship I've ever visited. You pay premium on everything (considering it's Latin America) and always get mediocre quality. You have to deal with latino retardness in many ways and don't get any of the continent's benefits (beautiful girls, good food, low prices, etc). Btw, I've lived and worked for over 3 years in different countries in Latin America.

To your other points:

I'm in energy and worked in Santiago. Spent a total of 7 months there. I'm based in central Europe atm.

So you did some google research and can tell me, what prices you can expect on the ground? In a Latin American country...yeah, right. My former boss knew Spanish, was married to a Chilean and is a successfull engineer. Not some guy who talks out of his ass usually. I didn't check his statements, though.

If Antofagasta is hot or not, depends on where in the state. In fact, it's home of the hottest and dryest place in the world, so go figure. That's why they conduct a lot of astronomic research there. I haven't been to the city itself but I spent some time in La Serena. Trust me, it was very very hot there. The sun beams were like laser beams and although it was only ~20° C it was piercing right through my skin. Maybe the ozon layer is thiner there or something. Anyway, as an Aussie this might be a non-issue for you. Keep in mind that the averages don't mean shit since the d(t) between day and night is huge in Chile.

Concerning not knowing Spanish and dealing with authorities et al there. It's doable but tough. Same goes for the entire continent with the difference that Chile might be a bit less fucked. I strongly advise you to make local connections in order to not get ripped off.

Edit: The real estate company I used to rent my apartement was pretty good. They understand the gringos' needs and speak English. Maybe they can be helpful in your endeavours. If interested, I'll send you their details in a pm.

[Australia Sucks]

Yes Santiago has traffic but unlike most of South America it has an excellent train system and is very walk-able. Just catch the train and or walk places, why drive for?

I personally found people from Santiago to be friendlier to me than Colombians or Peruvians (except the Chileans who I met in other countries - they were cunts). I have heard however (from Chileans themselves actually) that people from Santiago especially are kind to foreigners from rich countries but are a bit harsh/racist to Latino foreigners. I noticed your profile says that your home country is Uruguay. Perhaps that has something to do with it? In general I personally found Santiago locals to be super friendly and went out of their way to help me, give me advice, etc.

I think the guy that told you Santiago was more expensive than Munich was probably just exaggerating for effect and did not actually mean it literally.

I thought the Santiago girls were above average in terms of attractiveness, but not world class. Its a matter of taste. I did not get to try much Chilean food but the stuff I tried was okay but not on the level of Peruvian food though. Yes Chile is expensive compared to most of South America.

[Tail Gunner]

(06-02-2017 02:56 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  

A pad would just be for investment and for chilling out, studying the language, a base to travel and to game girls, etc, i.e. investment plus leisure, with no business or employment aspect involved.

After reading this entire thread, I have concluded that your analysis is exactly ass backwards. As Bacon already mentioned, first find a place in which to invest. Then rent where you want to live. If you made a horrible mistake, then just pack up and leave. There is one exception: if you are investing in a really hot real estate market and your currency is historically high against the local currency and it is likely to depreciate by the time you buy in a few years.

There are Latin American countries that will give you high interest rates on certificates of deposit compared to the artificially suppressed interest rates in the bankrupt western welfare-state nations. Bacon mentioned investing "in a solid dividend stock like AT&T or for real estate exposure in a low cost real estate ETF to the collect the 4-5% dividend/distribution," but you can find similar returns just by parking your money in banks (in U.S. dollars) in some Latin American countries. Many of the banks are far better capitalized than the highly-leveraged derivative-ridden zombie banks in the western nations.

You can also get rates as high as 25% a year on hard money construction loans. I just saw one recently for 13%, where it is secured by the underlying real estate. You can invest in agricultural land and eventually receive 25% to 30% returns. Just perform your own due diligence and exercise caution. Stay in cash until you find those relatively rare asymmetric investments, where risk is low but returns are high. It is time-consuming, but not impossible.

[Australia Sucks]

Tail Gunner Latin American countries give you higher interest rates but you have way more currency and inflation risk. Look what happened to people who put money in Brazilian savings accounts 5 years ago and did not withdraw it? If you account for inflation/currency-depreciation most of the time the net return you receive on savings accounts in Latin American countries (at least over a given 5 year period) is less than a country like Australia, New Zealand, Canada, etc.

Yeah, I will probably end up renting in a place for a few months first before I buy. I agree its the way to do it.

[thebassist]

AS: I think you should consider somewhat more strongly the fact that you have spent a grand total of one day in Santiago. You are telling members who have lived there or visited for much longer that you don't agree with their judgements concerning quality of life, women, etcetera.

One day in a country doesn't mean shit- I'm sure you could visit Toronto or Washington DC for one day, and if you're lucky enough see a decent amount of hot, friendly girls out and about.

You should consider being more respectful toward the opinions of members who are relaying to you their impressions of Chile that are formed over much longer periods of time than you have had in the country, and temper your expectations for your next trip accordingly.

[Tail Gunner]

(06-02-2017 09:42 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  

Tail Gunner Latin American countries give you higher interest rates but you have way more currency and inflation risk.

Read more carefully. I explicitly stated making deposits in U.S. dollars:

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you can find similar returns just by parking your money in banks (in U.S. dollars)

You can receive double-digit returns on deposits made in the local currency. I do not recommend that, for the reasons that you stated -- unless your currency is trading near a historical high against the local currency and the local inflation rate is fairly modest. That is an example of an asymmetric trade, where the downside risk is limited within acceptable parameters.

[Australia Sucks]

thebassist I do consider what others say but at the same time I have seen a lot of places hyped up on the forum that did not deserve it, so I am a bit skeptical now. I thought Medellin and Cali were shit-holes with overrated girls despite all the forum hype.

Also I pointed out the potential reason why BoiBoi didn't get treated so well by Santiago girls, just like my not being white handicapped me in Peru, his being a Latin foreigner handicapped him in Santiago.
If you look at most of the Santiago datasheets on the forum the guys agree that Santiago girls are friendly and approachable. here are some quotes from other forum members taken from Santiago datasheets:

"I would say that you are much more likely to get blown out in Santo Domingo than in Santiago. People in the capital are more rushed and wary of strangers. People in Santiago have more of the 'small town friendliness' thing going on."

"To me Santiago is very pleasant as the girls are (very) receptive"

"I think it's a hidden gem, but it's not for everyone."

"Higher value than santo domingo
Better logistics
Cheaper
Hotter women IMHO, lighter-skinned and more diversity, and you will run into 7's and 8's that aren't total golddiggers
*this is big too, The Spanish is way clearer in Santiago."

Tailgunner, apologies if I misread your post its 1 a.m. where I live so my attention to detail is waning.

[BoiBoi]

(06-02-2017 10:09 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  

Also I pointed out the potential reason why BoiBoi didn't get treated so well by Santiago girls, just like my not being white handicapped me in Peru, his being a Latin foreigner handicapped him in Santiago.
If you look at most of the Santiago datasheets on the forum the guys agree that Santiago girls are friendly and approachable. here are some quotes from other forum members taken from Santiago datasheets:

"I would say that you are much more likely to get blown out in Santo Domingo than in Santiago. People in the capital are more rushed and wary of strangers. People in Santiago have more of the 'small town friendliness' thing going on."

"To me Santiago is very pleasant as the girls are (very) receptive"

"I think it's a hidden gem, but it's not for everyone."

"Higher value than santo domingo
Better logistics
Cheaper
Hotter women IMHO, lighter-skinned and more diversity, and you will run into 7's and 8's that aren't total golddiggers
*this is big too, The Spanish is way clearer in Santiago."

You are jumping to conclusions my friend. I'm 6'4'', blonde, blue eyes. Needless to say that the girls anywhere in Latin America treat me particularly well. Chile wasn't any different. I never said that girl's attitudes where the problem. The problem is that the quality isn't that high in general. Chile has one of highest softdrink intake per capita in the world. They don't have a gym culture and their food is unhealthy. You can see the results on the streets of Santiago. Sure, there are some stunners around. The absolute number might be high (Santiago RM has like 6.5 mio inhabitants after all), the relative number is not. Then again, you might be into a different kind of girl. Comparing the quality of the girls of Chile to Argentina, Colombia, Brazil, Venezuela, etc. is a joke, though.

Also, those guys in the posts you quoted are talking about Santiago in the DR. Seriously do your homework and stop wasting people's time.

[Spectrumwalker]

Worked and lived Chile. Man, I would really try and figure out a way to spend more than 6- 8 weeks there and really try and hack into the culture. I've met heaps of gringos around South America who've romanticized a country upon visiting and then move there in an impulse, bought land with Anglo expectations of how things work, and then desperately want to sell their property. The ones who have success are the ones who've lived there for sometime before putting down roots permantly.

That being said if you do go to Chile. Head south. I'd recommend the Los Lagos region. Great fishing. Beautiful land and lots and lots of rain. Great land for farming. If buying a property with the thought of renting it out, check out some cities called Frutillar, Puerto Octay, and of course definitely Pucon. Massive tourism in the summer months (mostly Chileans and Argentinos).

Women...eh. The women in Santiago are ugly. You can walk around for hours before finding a good looking girl to approach. Swear to god. The further south you go I believe the women are better looking. There's good looking girls in Osorno, and it's very conservative.

Also if you out down roots in Chile, find yourself a good cardiologist. hah. You'll need it with the food. Try the Pichanga.

[newgame]

(06-02-2017 10:09 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  

thebassist I do consider what others say but at the same time I have seen a lot of places hyped up on the forum that did not deserve it, so I am a bit skeptical now. I thought Medellin and Cali were shit-holes with overrated girls despite all the forum hype.

I've been following this thread because I'm interested in researching South American real estate. It's obvious that AS simply did a rushed tour through South America and is basing his opinion of cities/countries on a few days in each. Many people would agree Cali is a shit-hole, but I have never hear anyone call Medellin a shit-hole.

AS, you stayed in El Centro in Medellin, which is a major shit-hole and nobody would deny that. There's a reason that no gringos stay there, but you did and say Medellin is a shit hole because of that. I assume you're basing your decisions about cities and countries on the same misinformed opinions.

As others have said, spend months if not years in the location before making a poor decision.

[Hypno]

In Latin America, there are two prices, the local price and the Gringo price. I have an acquaintance that bought a farm in Ecuador through a local and got a good price; he would have paid triple otherwise.

I think this is foolish unless you have spent significant time on the ground there.

There is a guy named Simon Black who is hustling a modern day Galt's Gulch there. He has written extensively on the net about Chile since he is promoting his real estate scheme. He is a protege of Doug Casey. Not saying Chile is a bad place, rather, just be careful and go slow.

[Tail Gunner]

(06-02-2017 03:41 PM)Hypno Wrote:  

There is a guy named Simon Black who is hustling a modern day Galt's Gulch there. He has written extensively on the net about Chile since he is promoting his real estate scheme. He is a protege of Doug Casey. Not saying Chile is a bad place, rather, just be careful and go slow.

Well, there was a libertarian community in Chile by the name of Galt's Gulch that broke apart (a different planned community than the Simon Black one). That is why I have mentioned "do your own due diligence" so many times in this thread. Many good people were burned -- although I cannot understand for the life of me why people would think that a libertarian or anarchist community would work. People need a common bond to form a real community. And why would anyone get involved with Jeff Berwick, or anyone involved with him, with his highly suspect track record? Do your own due diligence!

Quote:

Instead of living in a picturesque valley selling Galt's Gulch–branded juice, the libertarian founders are accusing one another of being drunks, liars, and sociopaths.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/atlas...922-v21n10

[Spectrumwalker]

(06-02-2017 03:58 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

Well, there was a libertarian community in Chile by the name of Galt's Gulch that broke apart (a different planned community than the Simon Black one). That is why I have mentioned "do your own due diligence" so many times in this thread. Many good people were burned -- although I cannot understand for the life of me why people would think that a libertarian or anarchist community would work. People need a common bond to form a real community. And why would anyone get involved with Jeff Berwick, or anyone involved with him, with his highly suspect track record? [b]Do your own due diligence

I remember Galt's Gulch. I find it amusing to see Libertarian/anarchist communities arise, fall apart, and then all the so called government haters run first thing to the government when things don't go their way and want to sue each other. There's another Galt community underway somewhere near Valparaiso.

[Tail Gunner]

Anyone interested in living in Chile (or Uruguay, where he lived previously) should check out the blog of Expat Bob ("Kicking Culture Shock in the Balls"). He is a funny guy and tells it like it is. Here is a snippet:

Quote:

Actually, BobMobile’s inspection woes were not really the first things I had to deal with. I rent my place out when I am gone, and there were so many things wrecked and missing… My collection of fine whiskey glasses: 4 out of 6 missing, presumably broken. My entire collection of fine whiskey which had been locked away: consumed and not a drop left. The curtains in the guest bedroom ripped out of their concrete anchors in the ceiling and never put back. Just… hanging there by one hook. Diagonally (maybe he won’t notice???). The window locking mechanism in that same room broken off (this is a piece of stamped aluminum, not a fragile thing, just cleanly shredded from its mount, as if the Hulk got angry he couldn’t get the window open and just forced it with a few tons of effort). A whole frame of photos from my travels just missing, and the hole in the wall where the hook held it spackled and painted over as if it were never there. Two gouges in the granite countertop in the kitchen, as if someone had been sawing something and gone WAY too far into the stone. Like, half an inch. You have to work hard to cut half an inch into granite with ANYTHING. Stereo rewired completely wrong to the point of unusability. Not just that, I had secured all the wires for the TV and internet and sound system stuff to the back of the TV shelf with cable clips so as to make it nice and clean and organized, and they ripped all those out in order to wire it all wrong in a rat’s nest of cables. You don’t get any more intensely South American than that!

The power cable to the security camera was gone but the security camera was still there (who steals a device-specific power cable?) My printer so badly dropkicked in some fashion that the print head was permanently lodged into one side of it and I could not pry it free. Footprints on the wall. Like, someone walked sideways. High up. In shoes. And a myriad other WTF moments to go along with those. I am probably remembering only half of it.

I thought renting out a furnished place to higher end international travelers would have gotten a little more respect for the environs, but I was incorrect. So I spent the next few weeks fixing/replacing all the broken stuff and making solemn vows never leave anything nice around for strangers to use ever again.

https://expatbob.wordpress.com/

[Australia Sucks]

Boiboi sorry if I jumped to conclusions about you. As for the attractiveness of women in Santiago, the important thing is that I found them attractive. That is a matter of taste, expectations, etc Feel free to disagree. Also you did not read what I said carefully. I am saying for example that Santiago women are more attractive than for example Santa Marta (in Colombia) women. You cannot just say "Chilean girls vs Colombia girls" You have to break it down to the city level.

newgame I stayed one night in the centro of Medellin and 2 nights in Estadio. Also I did walk/train around different parts of the city including nicer places like Poblado. Santiago is a city which is good overall compared to Medellin which is a very polarized city. The feeling I got (I admit it is an insufficient time-frame) is that 5% of the physical area of Medellin where rich people and foreigners live in their own little bubble is nice (with hot super hot girls), whereas the other 95% of the city is a shit-hole (with ugly girls I might add). The attractiveness of women in Medellin is also very polarized with more women on both extremes of the bell curve than most cities. For example I saw a lot more 3s and 4s and 5s in Medellin than most cities in Colombia and even more than Lima or Santiago, but in a few small parts of Medellin that were nice I saw more 8s and 9s than most cities. I felt in Bogota for example there were way more (in raw numbers and also percentage terms) girls in the 6-7.5 range, however in the right parts of Medellin it was easier to find girls in the 7.5-10 range than other cities in Colombia.

Santiago is much more balanced city (than Medellin) with a much broader/bigger pleasant area. My feeling is that foreigners who like Medellin are just staying in their little Gringo areas. Bogota was also a reasonably balanced city that I liked.

Yeah guys, like I said before I will try to get down to Chile for at least a few months before deciding to pull the trigger.

Hypno when I spend a few months in Chile I will try to befriend some locals, which should hopefully help me with buying real estate at the local price.

[newgame]

(06-02-2017 04:41 PM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  

newgame I stayed one night in the centro of Medellin and 2 nights in Estadio. Also I did walk/train around different parts of the city including nicer places like Poblado. Santiago is a city which is good overall compared to Medellin which is a very polarized city. The feeling I got (I admit it is an insufficient time-frame) is that 5% of the physical area of Medellin where rich people and foreigners live in their own little bubble is nice (with hot super hot girls), whereas the other 95% of the city is a shit-hole (with ugly girls I might add). The attractiveness of women in Medellin is also very polarized with more women on both extremes of the bell curve than most cities. For example I saw a lot more 3s and 4s and 5s in Medellin than most cities in Colombia and even more than Lima or Santiago, but in a few small parts of Medellin that were nice I saw more 8s and 9s than most cities. I felt in Bogota for example there were way more (in raw numbers and also percentage terms) girls in the 6-7.5 range, however in the right parts of Medellin it was easier to find girls in the 7.5-10 range than other cities in Colombia.

Santiago is much more balanced city (than Medellin) with a much broader/bigger pleasant area. My feeling is that foreigners who like Medellin are just staying in their little Gringo areas. Bogota was also a reasonably balanced city that I liked.

You must not have noticed around Estadio, Laureles, Envigado (which is huge), Sabaneta, Poblado (which is huge), parts of Belen, etc it is nice or very nice. By area these parts make up a huge part of the city. In three days with one of those spent in Centro, you obviously didn't see the city. You only spent 1 day in Santiago and I'd imagine in the best part. Your likes and dislikes of cities and countries is highly misinformed if you're basing it on 1-3 days in each.

Your experience with girls also sounds super limited since you spent time traveling with your girlfriend or family. Then you come along and say tens or hundreds of field reports are incorrect because you spent a day or two there and saw how it really is. With such limited experience you should be asking questions and paying attention instead of making assumptions based on almost zero experience.

[Australia Sucks]

Newgame I am not on this thread to argue about Colombia. Its a Chile thread. The bottom line is I find Santiago girls attractive and friendly. If other people do not like Santiago girls, then horses for courses.

[newgame]

(06-02-2017 05:42 PM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  

Newgame I am not on this thread to argue about Colombia. Its a Chile thread. The bottom line is I find Santiago girls attractive and friendly. If other people do not like Santiago girls, then horses for courses.

You're talking about investing in Chile. I'm pointing out that you are not approaching it in the correct way and you are basing your opinions of Santiago on only one day there. Logically, if you missed the target on a city with such a strong reputation as Medellin you should consider that maybe you missed it on Santiago. In sum, listen to what other people with much more experience are telling you and don't blow them off.

[BallsDeep]

There is a lot of unwarranted negativity aimed at Australia Sucks, which is dampening what could end up being one of the most interesting threads in the history of this forum.

Let's take just his past 30 days' posting history into account:

-He ate wafers from some homeless guy in Colombia and ended up in the E.R.

-He then brought two Medellin hookers to his hostel in El Centro (an area so bad that even the hookers said fuck this).

And this is the best yet--buying a house after having spent one day in the country!

Buy the fuckin house man, buy the house.

As long as you pinky promise to share all the details here.

[Australia Sucks]

Yeah, i did eat the wafer, newbie mistake, you got me there.

Ballsdeep the two lesbian girls were not hookers. They were normal girls (who admittedly scammed me into buying them some alcohol). Also on that night my hostel was in Estadio not in El Centro. Also Medellin girls are known for being flaky.

I didn't say I am definitely going to buy a house in Chile, I just said I am thinking about it. I just liked the glimpse of the country I saw, plus it gets a lot of good reviews as place for foreigners to invest. So I thought I would get some info from other forum members so I already have an idea of what to expect and where to look, etc when I finally get a chance to make a proper (a few months at least) trip back to Chile. After that trip I can decide if I still want to buy a house in Chile or not and where I should buy it.

Ballsdeep are you always such a smart-ass?

[Australia Sucks]

Spectrum walker you said "That being said if you do go to Chile. Head south."

I've heard that generally the South part of Chile is quite cold for a large chunk of the year and I'm not overly fond of extremely cold weather. Is there a place in the south that is nice but does not get too cold?

[Spectrumwalker]

(06-02-2017 06:54 PM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  

Spectrum walker you said "That being said if you do go to Chile. Head south."

I've heard that generally the South part of Chile is quite cold for a large chunk of the year and I'm not overly fond of extremely cold weather. Is there a place in the south that is nice but does not get too cold?

Southern Chile is quite cold. No place really comes to mind. Maybe Valdivia. Summertime it's low 20's and winter about 12-14 degrees. Southern Chile is warmer in summer obviously, but winter and fall it's double coats, gloves, and beanie weather. And the rain, for example in Coihaique, the locals only have two options for the weather. They say "it's raining", or "it's going to rain". If cold aint your thing head north to the Atacama. I'm not to familiar with it other than driving through once on a bus. It's all desert, warm temperatures all year around apparently.

[worldtraveler3]

I think Rvf members are slightly more biased towards countries where there are more hotter girls, e.g. Colombia. But life is not only about girls, there are a lot of thing which Chile is better than the rest of latam, streets are relatively clean, more modern, etc. if it's just about pure investment and relax, you could go have a look, not everyone wants to be a 24/7 player in Medellín I would think.

[Cattle Rustler]

(06-02-2017 07:05 PM)Spectrumwalker Wrote:  

(06-02-2017 06:54 PM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  

Spectrum walker you said "That being said if you do go to Chile. Head south."

I've heard that generally the South part of Chile is quite cold for a large chunk of the year and I'm not overly fond of extremely cold weather. Is there a place in the south that is nice but does not get too cold?

Southern Chile is quite cold. No place really comes to mind. Maybe Valdivia. Summertime it's low 20's and winter about 12-14 degrees. Southern Chile is warmer in summer obviously, but winter and fall it's double coats, gloves, and beanie weather. And the rain, for example in Coihaique, the locals only have two options for the weather. They say "it's raining", or "it's going to rain". If cold aint your thing head north to the Atacama. I'm not to familiar with it other than driving through once on a bus. It's all desert, warm temperatures all year around apparently.

¿Dondé están todas las putas con sus "fuck me boots" en Chile?