[Brother Abdul Majeed]

A tattoo makes you unique, just like the 7.5 billion other unique people on the planet.

[The Wire]

(05-31-2017 12:36 PM)IvanDrago Wrote:  

A big problem I see is tattoos, like all fads, eventually go out of fashion. Some people I know with the really passe ones like tribal designs, armbands or Chinese letters do some real mental gymnastics trying to prove what special meaning the tatoos have instead of just admitting they are dorks.

This is the biggest issue. Having a tattoo is a way to date yourself in the eyes of the next generation and mark my words there will be a generation coming up that rebels and does the opposite look of their parents and that might be no tattoos and a cleaner look. The tattoo is like being stuck with a permanent haircut or permanently wearing a bootcut jeans. It works for a while but then in 10 years you might want something else and you will look dated.

[Sebastian]

Like someone said above. Tattoo is Low Class thing. If you want to get into Upper class white crowd, you better hide those. I dont mind talking to some guy who has tattos but i wont trust him to be in professional fields (doctor, lawyer, financial etc)

[lemko]

(06-16-2017 04:01 PM)Zep Wrote:  

I feel sorry for her, the inevitable drop from the glory that is herself, to the crushing normalcy that is adult life is going to be devastating. I'm imagining being her now, feeling special and wanted, just for merely being, to the inevitability of gravity, giving her crows feet, jowels, some ass-fat...all starting to increase from thirty years of age to her death. That's forty years of those tattoos haunting her with embarrassment ( stupidity of youth ) poor upbringing ( lower-class parenting, no-one with money or social status would allow their child to look like this), and then her scrambling like hell for relevance. She just had to be! and people kissed her ass. At thirty-five years she'll be in for a ride as she battles with her irrelevance as she no longer is hip, no longer gets looks from hot guys, and is felt sorry for by people who can see she's suffering because of her childish choices.

(06-16-2017 02:02 PM)911 Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 03:45 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

Nothing is more horrifying than seeing a hot young girl with a tattoo. Is like seeing graffiti on a classical building.

A few tattoos is bad enough, but now you're seeing more and more young women covered up all over, often with ear hoops, nose rings and shitty skrillex hairdos to go with. What constitutes the "alternative" bar gets raised every decade.

Tattoos used to be an exclusively low-class thing, they've migrated to the mainstream, while more conservative looks get marginalized as "square". Increasingly now you also have occult crap monopolizing youth/cool culture so it permeated music and fashion, and tattos are a big part of that.


From a potential 8 to undateable.

And the ones I see are particularly amateurish. They look like they were drawn by some 8th Grade wannabe metalhead scribbling in his notebook.

[PapayaTapper]

(06-18-2017 12:12 PM)The Wire Wrote:  

(05-31-2017 12:36 PM)IvanDrago Wrote:  

A big problem I see is tattoos, like all fads, eventually go out of fashion. Some people I know with the really passe ones like tribal designs, armbands or Chinese letters do some real mental gymnastics trying to prove what special meaning the tatoos have instead of just admitting they are dorks.

This is the biggest issue. Having a tattoo is a way to date yourself in the eyes of the next generation and mark my words there will be a generation coming up that rebels and does the opposite look of their parents and that might be no tattoos and a cleaner look. The tattoo is like being stuck with a permanent haircut or permanently wearing a bootcut jeans. It works for a while but then in 10 years you might want something else and you will look dated.

There's an opportunity

According to MarketWatch

Quote:

Spending on tattoo removals is still growing and is expected to hit $83.2 million in 2018, keeping pace with growth in the overall tattoo industry, according to research firm IBISWorld. Revenue for the industry overall was an estimated $3.4 billion in 2014, an annualized growth rate of just 2.9%, though there is strong demand for tattoos with intricate designs, such as 3-D tattoos, says IBISWorld lead analyst Andy Brennan. There are nearly 8,000 tattoo businesses in the U.S., with no dominant player

It might be called "regret revenue"

[debeguiled]

I am so glad the clothes I wore in the seventies are long gone and not a permanent part of my body.

[Elster]

One thing that annoys me about contemporary tattoo culture is the little value placed on the permanent stains in the body that were voluntarily place.
Cover ups and removals (though I am happy the latter exists) speak of this dilluting of the symbolic value tattoos once had.

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

(06-19-2017 11:42 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  

I am so glad the clothes I wore in the seventies are long gone and not a permanent part of my body.

Yeah, I remember having 'wet look' shirts with a leisure suit, and thinking that kind of thing looked sharp. 15 years later, that kind of thing was horrific, and parachute pants were the coolest thing ever! I'm glad I don't have to have those styles for the rest of my life. Think how ridiculous custom suits and pocket squares will seem in 10 years!




Edit: My 1000th post!

[debeguiled]

(06-19-2017 02:52 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

. . . parachute pants were the coolest thing ever! I'm glad I don't have to have those styles for the rest of my life.

What do you think forum members look like.

RoastBeefCurtains4Me:

[realologist]

(06-19-2017 11:06 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(06-18-2017 12:12 PM)The Wire Wrote:  

(05-31-2017 12:36 PM)IvanDrago Wrote:  

A big problem I see is tattoos, like all fads, eventually go out of fashion. Some people I know with the really passe ones like tribal designs, armbands or Chinese letters do some real mental gymnastics trying to prove what special meaning the tatoos have instead of just admitting they are dorks.

This is the biggest issue. Having a tattoo is a way to date yourself in the eyes of the next generation and mark my words there will be a generation coming up that rebels and does the opposite look of their parents and that might be no tattoos and a cleaner look. The tattoo is like being stuck with a permanent haircut or permanently wearing a bootcut jeans. It works for a while but then in 10 years you might want something else and you will look dated.

There's an opportunity

According to MarketWatch

Quote:

Spending on tattoo removals is still growing and is expected to hit $83.2 million in 2018, keeping pace with growth in the overall tattoo industry, according to research firm IBISWorld. Revenue for the industry overall was an estimated $3.4 billion in 2014, an annualized growth rate of just 2.9%, though there is strong demand for tattoos with intricate designs, such as 3-D tattoos, says IBISWorld lead analyst Andy Brennan. There are nearly 8,000 tattoo businesses in the U.S., with no dominant player

It might be called "regret revenue"

[kaotic]

(06-17-2017 12:17 PM)Mochihunter Wrote:  

I think what's worse is the guys who are attracted and go after girls like this. These men are openly sponsoring degeneracy and ugliness.

Openly sponsoring this would be paying for her tattoos, her being the mother of your kids, or wifing her up.

Certain kinds of tats aren't bad looking on a girl.

We all have our types, of course I'd prefere a female without tattoos but I of course have my maxes (no hands, face, neck, chest piece, sternum, etc)

I'm not turning down an 8 with a fat ass and supple nips because she has some tattoo.

Whatever the hamster will soothe them.

Tattoos are mainstream - it's ever increasing, especially more so here in Southern California over the last decade.

This is regardless if men approve of them or not, they're doing it "for themselves".

[YoungBlade]

(05-31-2017 02:58 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

Scars are tattoos with cooler stories. If I do something worth remembering that didn't mark me, then I'll get one.

Update:

Driller buddy of mine got one who has been injured several times (but no permanent scars) from drilling, got a drilling tattoo.

THAT'S a tattoo worth getting.

[puckerman]

When I see a woman with a lot of tattoos, I think "train wreck." Here is a good example, Amy Winehouse:

[Beyond Borders]

To be honest, I find people looking down on all tattoos as obnoxious as those who get them pretending to be rebels when they're really just trying to fit in. Beyond choosing not to date women who have them as undateable for obvious reasons (I agree it should be a male thing) I don't really see a reason to be all high and mighty about it.

To be clear, I do have tattoos, and I wanted them since I was a young boy. I grew up around a lot of outlaw biker types and virtually all men my family knew when we were boys had tattoos - including our fathers, my uncles, and almost all men my careless mom dated - and that's quite a bit before they blew up.

I got my first one when I was fifteen. Was around 96 and I lived in a small town, so we didn't really know much about what the rest of the world was doing then. I was one out of two guys at my high school who had one. I'd see a gangster type guy or two here and there at wrestling tournaments with them and back then they were still real standouts.

So I didn't realize it was about to become as common as freckles. Should I forsake the culture I grew up with because the rest of the world jumped on board as I came of age....just to be different than the mainstream in my choice to refrain? I don't think so. That'd just be another case of making decisions based on what the mainstream is doing.

Looking back I'd have chosen something different for my first tattoo, but I'd still have them whether they went mainstream or not. I've had more conservative girlfriends complain about them or the nature of some of them. I could care less. I'll no more apologize for tattoos I once chose to put on my body, misguided or not, then I'll apologize for any other part of my background, and it's particularly that content of my character in the end that decides how those women respond to me in the greater context of things. I find the same goes for anyone else I meet in life, regardless of any preconceived notions they might have.

I think they're part of various subcultures for various reasons, and in our society they've become part of the culture as a whole. Frown on it all you want but there are countless cultures throughout human history with different forms of body modification and the act obviously has deep roots some place in the human psyche. I do certainly like them more when they have a deeper meaning or serve some role as initiation or manhood rite, but since we've strayed so far from tribalism and have gotten quite shallow as a culture, these things are rare.

As far as women go, I think some women are sexy with them - strong emphasis on some - but like many of you, I'd rather have a serious relationship with a woman who was not tatted at all.

Choose to refrain from it if it's not your thing. Getting on a high horse about it, on the other hand, not only seems like wasted energy but comes across as much like posturing as anything else at this point. It seems like they're well on the way to falling out of style again and it's becoming the "in thing" to disdain them. I find myself shrugging at the matter either way.

What's missing in our culture is a sense of real meaning. This is reflected in our tattoos. It does not follow, however, that all tattooes are therefore foolish and meaningless.

[Gmac]

(11-25-2017 10:31 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  

To be honest, I find people looking down on all tattoos as obnoxious as those who get them pretending to be rebels when they're really just trying to fit in. Beyond choosing not to date women who have them as undateable for obvious reasons (I agree it should be a male thing) I don't really see a reason to be all high and mighty about it.

To be clear, I do have tattoos, and I wanted them since I was a young boy. I grew up around a lot of outlaw biker types and virtually all men my family knew when we were boys had tattoos, and that's quite a bit before they blew up.

I got my first one when I was fifteen. Was around 96 and I lived in a small town, so w didn't really know much about what the rest of the world was doing then. I was one out of two guys at my high school who had one. I'd see a guy or two here and there at wrestling tournaments with them and back then they were still real standouts.

So I didn't realize it was about to become as common as freckles. Looking back I'd have chosen something different for my first tattoo, but I'd still have them whether they went mainstream or not.

I think they're part of various subcultures for various reasons, and in our society they've become part of the culture as a whole. Frown on it all you want but there are countless cultures throughout human history with different forms of body modification and the act obviously has deep roots some place in the human psyche. I do certainly like them more when they have a deeper meaning or serve some role as initiation or manhood rite, but since we've strayed so far from tribalism and have gotten quite shallow as a culture, these things are rare.

As far as women go, I think some women are sexy with them, but like many of you, I'd rather have a serious relationship with a woman who was not tatted at all.

Choose to refrain from it if it's not your thing. Getting on a high horse about it, on the other hand, not only seems like wasted energy but comes across as much like posturing as anything else at this point. It seems like there well on the way to falling out of style again and it's becoming the "in thing" to disdain them. I find myself shrugging at the matter either way.

I don't find them attractive myself but I respect your right to an opinion my brother.

[Razor Beast]

It's a masculine thing but it's a pretty big turn off for me on a woman. Basically a cheap way to buy yourself pre-selection as a bad boy type. It's too mainstream now to have interest in it personally IMO.

[Transsimian]

(06-17-2017 10:33 AM)JayD Wrote:  

The trend I see now is full body tatts from neck downwards. The japanese irezumi pulls it off the others just look shit

(11-26-2017 12:15 AM)Razor Beast Wrote:  

It's a masculine thing but it's a pretty big turn off for me on a woman. Basically a cheap way to buy yourself pre-selection as a bad boy type. It's too mainstream now to have interest in it personally IMO.

Sometimes tats are far from enough

[Teedub]

(06-18-2017 12:12 PM)The Wire Wrote:  

(05-31-2017 12:36 PM)IvanDrago Wrote:  

A big problem I see is tattoos, like all fads, eventually go out of fashion. Some people I know with the really passe ones like tribal designs, armbands or Chinese letters do some real mental gymnastics trying to prove what special meaning the tatoos have instead of just admitting they are dorks.

This is the biggest issue. Having a tattoo is a way to date yourself in the eyes of the next generation and mark my words there will be a generation coming up that rebels and does the opposite look of their parents and that might be no tattoos and a cleaner look. The tattoo is like being stuck with a permanent haircut or permanently wearing a bootcut jeans. It works for a while but then in 10 years you might want something else and you will look dated.

Indeed. Getting a fair few (tribal) tattoos in my early twenties is now becoming somewhat of a regret to the point of considering removal. In my defence, I got them before they became really mainstream, but nevertheless.

[redpillage]

(06-19-2017 11:42 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  

I am so glad the clothes I wore in the seventies are long gone and not a permanent part of my body.

DAMN IT! Now I get why everyone was smiling at me earlier today.