[Skank_Hunt]

Whether it is due to globalists' conspiracy or not, it is definitely happening.

I said I was grateful for the warm, but deluded BP "monogamous" feelings I had once for that girl, because I never experienced it before or will never experience it again.

If I was a man reaching his prime in the 60s, all I would have to do is have a decent job. I could have become and astronaut maybe and gone to the moon. I could have concentrated 100% of my time and efforts on my job because I never had to worry about getting women. Pretty, loyal wife and 3 kids, nice house in the suburbs. Off to the moon we go.

Now I see what my mind was trying to tell me all those years ago, that I resisted, that this is not possible anymore.

How can a man, who has any shred of self-respect, marry a whore like that in the video? How can a man marry a woman who treats him like her slave and does nothing but expects the world in return? But as more women become monstrous freaks and "alternative" "polyamorous" and "fluid" in their "gender identity", and of course fat as hell, a man may be forced by the nuked SMP to marry such a whore. If he has "self-respect", he will walk away with nothing. These "alpha" behaviors of not tolerating bullshit, being willing to walk away etc., they sometimes work, but the long-term BFs of most women I see are stable betas who take shit, who are forced to accept a woman wanting an "open relationship" knowing full well that means the man will struggle to get girls and his GF will just keep riding the carousel.

I just don't seem to take the shit of women in 2017 and I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that I did so well when I was younger. Not just me, a lot of guys I knew. And damn, compared to now, we were picky as fuck with girls. A girl could be slim, fit, pretty, but with a bit of a crooked nose and we would all call her "busted". Nowadays if that same girl offered herself to any of us for free, we would gladly accept, and she would be one of the hottest girls on Tinder and classed as "hot" in a nightclub for sure. If a girl was "quite pretty", like a 6.5, then one of the guys would say "she is quite pretty". The standards were accurate, they reflected reality. Now, quality and quantity has gone down so much, and thirst so much higher, that men chase 4s with no self-respect like a dog that runs after a stick.

I don't want to be a fucking MGTOW, because that is defeat to me, and I love girls when they show the best of themselves, but at the same time if a 5 is giving me all kinds of shit to bang her (which I recently had), then I tell her, "you are batshit insane, fuck this I'm out". And she cannot believe I actually left, she thought I would come back after a few minutes or that it was some "game" trick, because that's the level of thirst she is used to. No man walks out on her unless he is top 1% and has banged her quite a few times. I'm not fucking top 1%, I just do not accept horrible behavior and with a 5 my threshold is really low. I look around from some people I grew up with and a lot of the girls are now fat monstrous warpigs but they tell of their adventures on holiday or how many guys message them on Tinder. At least the Latina in the Dancing Bear video was attractive. So many of these women nowadays have no beauty inner or outer, and they have beta BFs/husbands/orbiters who stick with them because the other option is MGTOW. It's honestly like in the past 10 years of the growth of the internet, smartphones, apps, and militant feminism, I woke up from my "normal" life where an average girl got average attention, where a hot girl got a little bit more attention but reasonable amounts, to now, where being a fat obnoxious warpig or getting ejaculated on by a male stripper the day before your wedding is not only acceptable, but great and empowering.

In the old days a fat fuck was a fat fuck and if you don't like the honesty sorry girl, go on a diet. If a girl in school slept with more than one guy that we knew of, she was given a reputation as a slut. Today, by those standards the "sluts" that I thought were disgusting have a very low notch count compared to average.

As for gays I almost wish I was a fag because their entire lives are rainbow party fuckfests and that degenerate lifestyle is also celebrated as "empowering". When I was 18 fags kept in the closet because of the amount of shit they would get. I'm not saying bullying is good at all, but shaming of men and women for degenerate behaviors is a powerful necessity in any society that seeks to preserve good values.

All the game in the world can't change the trajectory, and that's the worst feeling for me; not being in control of one's destiny. Self-improvement can help a lot, but if the destruction outpaces your improvements you are still worse off. I can control what I do, but I cannot control the 1000s of beta simp hordes on Tinder complimenting mentally ill warpigs, or 1000s of men saying "I do" even when they know their wife is a used up slut. I miss the days when we called a spade a fucking spade. Right now I feel like Arnie in Total Recall. But at least there on Mars there were thin women with three tits. And the mutants, well, they look better than 50% of women in the west nowadays.

I am also not innocent in this. I perhaps three times in my life could have settled down with a girl who to my knowledge and strict observation was possible very long term material. But I have yellow fever. I also crave Latina girls with big asses and tits who ride like banshees. Threesomes, foursomes, where all the girls are genuinely into each other. Then there's the totally unrealistic scenarios they put in porn, where you get like 12 girls in a lesbian fest pissing on each other. You are right that a lot of the time a girl wants to project her sexual desire onto one man, if he's a real man who stimulates her hind brain and not just a convenient simp. Monogamy is impossible for me. But I also think hooking up for one night is empty, pointless and not worth the effort. I prefer mLTRs of medium duration, 6 months to 2 years. When you get to a LTR, the sex is 100x better, because you are comfortable with each other, and you can do different things, a lot of it more hardcore stuff. With ONS, you don't have much time to do much. I would prefer either being a fag or being a creature wired with totally monogamous instincts, because we can say how much of a whore that Latina is for not being faithful to her promise of monogamy, but a lot of us are still out there with a sexual desire that simply will not allow monogamy in the long-term, even if your partner is the hottest girl in the world.

The thing that is obviously more alarming though is the destruction of the SMP to the point where women are now far more often the initiators of the "open relationship" idea, or initiators of divorce, when they are inherently far more wired for monogamy than are men.

[Mage]

I don't know anything about this particular case, but I just wanted to note that bachelor's parties and bachelorette parties in general are stupid.

Bachelorette parties are another instance of women blindly copying male behavior without understanding the difference between sexes.

I would never marry a girl who wanted a bachelorette party - if she wants to act stupid or grind with strangers in a club or see a stripper or even just get drunk any number of days or weeks before the most important day in her life - which marriage day should be if vows are honest - then such an event is a major red flag.

As for bachelor's parties they are less stupid but they still involve the trope of "having last bit of fun before getting tied down" which implies giving consent to be put under heel of your wife. I didn't have a bachelor's party myself because I knew that If I wanted I could meet all my male friends and spend time with them after marriage too. And besides getting drunk and acting stupid is not my idea of a good time especially before the wedding day when one has to be fresh to endure all the long ceremonies, events, posing for photos, meeting all the family members and partying till late evening and nuptial night.

[Robert High Hawk]

(05-27-2017 09:58 AM)Mage Wrote:  

I don't know anything about this particular case, but I just wanted to note that bachelor's parties and bachelorette parties in general are stupid.

Bachelorette parties are another instance of women blindly copying male behavior without understanding the difference between sexes.

I would never marry a girl who wanted a bachelorette party - if she wants to act stupid or grind with strangers in a club or see a stripper or even just get drunk any number of days or weeks before the most important day in her life - which marriage day should be if vows are honest - then such an event is a major red flag.

As for bachelor's parties they are less stupid but they still involve the trope of "having last bit of fun before getting tied down" which implies giving consent to be put under heel of your wife. I didn't have a bachelor's party myself because I knew that If I wanted I could meet all my male friends and spend time with them after marriage too. And besides getting drunk and acting stupid is not my idea of a good time especially before the wedding day when one has to be fresh to endure all the long ceremonies, events, posing for photos, meeting all the family members and partying till late evening and nuptial night.

I agree with everything you wrote. Bachelor parties are like diamonds: their value and purpose has been artificially inflated to be some ridiculous over the top, heavily scripted experience, where your wedding is incomplete without an expensive one. Going to Vegas or some other hedonistic destination in this particular manner is a waste time, money, and liver resiliency. In the old days I'm sure a couple of nights before hand you maybe went to the local bar with some buds and celebrated. A mild headache the next day and perhaps $50-100 spent. Now you see guys wander around like a pack of desperate hyenas blowing thousands of dollars on VIP lounges at clubs and strip clubs. Absolute waste of time. In Europe they do this over the top dress up stuff and go around with challenges in bars. A small part of me sees and likes the raw male comraderie of it, but the elaborate production and scripted part of it is very silly.

The bachelorette parties(how did that even become a word by the way? Isn't the word Bridal?) are even worse. There's been plenty written on this topic in this forum, but I feel nautious watching these things. In Europe, where this concept is newer, you see an uneasiness about some of these groups of girls if they are otherwise rather sweet and normal. They are doing it for the novelty and trying to play up to the crazy wild nights they see in the movies, but they are clearly awkward and confused. Perhaps that will change as the culture further degenerates to Western Leftist Urban levels.

[Transsimian]

Drunken stag parties have wrecked the reputation of British men in Europe.

[Skank_Hunt]

Yeah, was thinking about that as well. How much damage these pointless few days of drunken idiocy have severely damaged former paradises for the rest of us. If entire cities had been so badly damaged for something worthwhile in exchange, it might be more understandable, but these stag parties are absolutely pointless and achieve absolutely nothing. There are some forum members who lament the decline of Krakow and it's definitely a bit of a debbie downer to hear when you could still do well there with enough time, but no one can deny it has been changed dramatically by pointless stag parties.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(05-27-2017 09:58 AM)Mage Wrote:  

I don't know anything about this particular case, but I just wanted to note that bachelor's parties and bachelorette parties in general are stupid.

Bachelorette parties are another instance of women blindly copying male behavior without understanding the difference between sexes.

I would never marry a girl who wanted a bachelorette party - if she wants to act stupid or grind with strangers in a club or see a stripper or even just get drunk any number of days or weeks before the most important day in her life - which marriage day should be if vows are honest - then such an event is a major red flag.

As for bachelor's parties they are less stupid but they still involve the trope of "having last bit of fun before getting tied down" which implies giving consent to be put under heel of your wife. I didn't have a bachelor's party myself because I knew that If I wanted I could meet all my male friends and spend time with them after marriage too. And besides getting drunk and acting stupid is not my idea of a good time especially before the wedding day when one has to be fresh to endure all the long ceremonies, events, posing for photos, meeting all the family members and partying till late evening and nuptial night.

Some bachelor's party are less stupid.

One of a friend of mine (could not go that one) was done in a large brothel. The entire group of guys including uncles and family members ran into a large establishment and spent a fortune fucking every woman in sight. I am no fan of P4P, but at least that is a party where everyone got laid - repeatedly.

That friend still cheats on his wife as he calls it out of male necessity and due to his sky-high T-count.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(05-28-2017 02:28 AM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:  

Yeah, was thinking about that as well. How much damage these pointless few days of drunken idiocy have severely damaged former paradises for the rest of us. If entire cities had been so badly damaged for something worthwhile in exchange, it might be more understandable, but these stag parties are absolutely pointless and achieve absolutely nothing. There are some forum members who lament the decline of Krakow and it's definitely a bit of a debbie downer to hear when you could still do well there with enough time, but no one can deny it has been changed dramatically by pointless stag parties.

Nope - the damage is limited and does not matter. What damages such cities more is scores of actually approaching foreigners. A RSD-old-style mass-spam-approaching boot-camp has x-times the destructive force than 5000 stag parties of drunk Brits. The same Brit could do Daygame the very next day - if he did it in a good manner, then he would be rewarded. Of course you can forget getting laid while on a drunk stag night (except in brothels and that is where many of them end up anyway).

[Mage]

(05-28-2017 01:56 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  

Drunken stag parties have wrecked the reputation of British men in Europe.

Most of the time I cannot tell a difference between a drunken stag party and a LGBT mini-pride. They look totally similar - drunken out of shape middle aged man dressed up ridiculously and acting stupid.

[Transsimian]

(05-28-2017 03:22 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Nope - the damage is limited and does not matter. What damages such cities more is scores of actually approaching foreigners. A RSD-old-style mass-spam-approaching boot-camp has x-times the destructive force than 5000 stag parties of drunk Brits. The same Brit could do Daygame the very next day - if he did it in a good manner, then he would be rewarded. Of course you can forget getting laid while on a drunk stag night (except in brothels and that is where many of them end up anyway).

Awkward shotgun approaches are bad, but meaningful interactions with men with real game aren't. Drunken and egged on approaches are almost never positive.

(05-28-2017 03:32 AM)Mage Wrote:  

Most of the time I cannot tell a difference between a drunken stag party and a LGBT mini-pride. They look totally similar - drunken out of shape middle aged man dressed up ridiculously and acting stupid.

Don't say that, even gayboys aren't that big a faggot.

[SlickyBoy]

I just saw a compilation clip of the Dancing Bear videos. Wow. At one point in the clip, there was an identifiable name of a business owner etched into the glass in the background of one scene. It looks to be shot in the offices of his firm. I wonder if he has any idea that was filmed or if his name is associated with such open harlotry.

Some of these are definitely staged - real porn stars paid the going rate to perform, with a group of extras paid $50 or so for a day of hanging around watching and pretending to be in a bachelorette party. This technique is not new. I saw one or two clips from Japan years ago that looked to be made in the nineties, and people made the same observations then - complaints about pro porn stars in the crowd. Same thing for a site called partyhardcore.com (NSFW - and yeah, note the wristbands), based somewhere in Eastern Europe.

But as others intimated, in a real party situation what this does is create social proof, enough so that one or two half-drunken regular girls may decide to smoke some pole and take a load on the face like regret girl did in the video linked earlier. Or full on fuck like that Latina did.

There are a few indicators of reality in some of these scenes where social proof got the better of bystanders:

- wrist bands (sometimes used, sometimes not)
- the presence of handbags (real porn stars and extras usually leave that stuff off set while performing)
- average/below average/older women in the mix along with hotties,
- the horrified or disgusted look on the faces of some women watching
- some scenes take place in hotel function rooms; possibly the same hotel as the wedding reception a day later.
- bachelorette party trinkets, necklaces, crowns, etc.
- real bottles of alcohol versus plastic cups full of soda or water
- hoop earrings. Wristband or not, I noticed the bigger the hoop, the bigger the ho.

Any of the ones filmed with the "Dancing Bear" flag in the background are staged as that's done on their own set. No real bachelorettes hold parties on porn sets. Also, in those scenes none of the women seem to know each other - there's no friendly giggling at their bridesmaid besties sucking dick, etc. But that happens in the real ones. BTW, in another shot from a different angle, the scene with that Latina had a Dancing Bear flag on the wall somewhere - probably fake. I think these here are mostly real, filmed in Europe (NSFW)

But yes, AWALT and if your gal wants a bachelorette party and you go along with the idea, at least get a PI, hidden cam, an infiltrator or something to verify what goes down. Even if shit like that happens and she doesn't participate, if she's got friends slutty enough to take tapioca in the face from random Chads that's a terrible sign for what may come your way a few years down the road. If you're too beta to put your foot down, at least get some evidence to protect yourself when things fall apart, which they will.