Quote: (05-25-2017 04:20 AM)Truth Tiger Wrote:
Re: Jungle, I agree that it's possible but in the western world it seems any arrangement can invite the court, common law marriage exists in many states especially if you declare yourself married (having a ceremony is one way...). Surrogacy is a better option and then not having live-in girlfriends.
I disagree that having children is *the* most masculine thing you can do. For average men it certainly is. But being aware of all the risks in a potential deal is extremely masculine, vs just going with 'we are here to make babies.' Clearly, that's true for most people. I know for me that is now a second place to fulfilling my own purpose, as I alluded to above and have posted about.
You might want to read Kahlil Gibran's sage guidance On Children in 'The Prophet' and On Marriage as well.
We don't ever get to tell our children who to be, they are always their own being and we can be a good example and enjoy the process of their discovery of life's meaning and joys and sorrows and achievement.
http://www.katsandogz.com/onchildren.html
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"Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you."
Gibran was a freemason, this poem about children is anti-family, of the same vein as Hillary's "It Takes a Village" dogma that children don't belong to their parents but to "society".
“Nothing is more useful than to look upon the world as it really is.”