[Skank_Hunt]

1. Options. I want to make a thread about this because the effect of options for women on any place on the attractiveness scale in her environment is massively underrated as a contributing factor to your average man's ability to seduce her. When a doctor has one patient to see all day, he is very available and looking for more patients. When a doctor has an effectively infinite supply of patients on his shift, he is obligated to treat them but he can't get rid of them quick enough. Causes: feminism, smartphones, internet, apps, general change in western culture, we all know it by now.

2. Alpha Widows Good call by a few members in pointing out the relative difficulty an Alpha Widow has in truly moving on, but she has so many options she at least will never be alone. As miserable as she may become, there will always be sex, physical and emotional affection on tap to maybe help her move on at least a bit. A few twisted backwards rationalizations and "therapy sessions" later and she might even "embrace" the new "ME". And when she has an Alpha Widow fit she can just take a cocktail of drugs, throw glass objects and even stab her poor beta boyfriend and get away with it. Some aren't quite as drastic as that and are just constantly bitchy and demanding. Another good point made above was how a lot of women haven't actually become Alpha Widows yet, so all they know is this new casual approach to dating, new boyfriends and so on. They get by well, somewhere they are lacking "something", but they can't quite put their (no pun intended) finger on what it is, just like a surprising proportion of women don't know how to have a clitoral orgasm either from lack of trying or lack of ability. We men on the other hand need a fairly regular "release" otherwise it becomes very unhealthy. Some quite picky girls go for surprisingly long dry spells as they just haven't found the right man for whatever reason (and there are many, because women are crazy).

[LastKing]

Because they have 1,000 dicks per minute flying past their heads 24/7? Because they have options, basically.

[Graft]

Not to derail the thread, but given the answers to the topic, I just don't see the point of monogamy. 21st century monogamy is a female designed system where:

1. She diminishes your immediate sexual options
2. She locks down your time and resources
3. She gets you to emotionally invest and confide in her as if she's your best friend, all under the guise of "love and loyalty"
4. She invades your male spaces and hobbies

All while she:
1. Gossips to her friends about your negative characteristics, while they encourage her to dump you
2. Fields options from other men, constantly looking for the better deal
3. Consistently makes mental notes of your shortcomings
4. Mercilessly stabs you in the back and leaves you with your head in your hands.

The only way to flip the script is for high-value men to refuse monogamy, because other than consistent sex, the companionship/friendship aspect isn't worth the pain.

[Dalaran1991]

(05-23-2017 09:41 AM)Graft Wrote:  

Not to derail the thread, but given the answers to the topic, I just don't see the point of monogamy with a girl who does the below. 21st century monogamy is a female designed system where:

1. She diminishes your immediate sexual options
2. She locks down your time and resources
3. She gets you to emotionally invest and confide in her as if she's your best friend, all under the guise of "love and loyalty"
4. She invades your male spaces and hobbies

All while she:
1. Gossips to her friends about your negative characteristics, while they encourage her to dump you
2. Fields options from other men, constantly looking for the better deal
3. Consistently makes mental notes of your shortcomings
4. Mercilessly stabs you in the back and leaves you with your head in your hands.

The only way to flip the script is for high-value men to refuse monogamy, because other than consistent sex, the companionship/friendship aspect isn't worth the pain.

Fix that for you.

Trying to generalize an entire age through the mainstream sexual dynamics, just makes you as mainstream as they are. Understand the dynamics and find a way to make it work for you.

[ksbms]

(05-23-2017 09:41 AM)Graft Wrote:  

Not to derail the thread, but given the answers to the topic, I just don't see the point of monogamy. 21st century monogamy is a female designed system where:

1. She diminishes your immediate sexual options
2. She locks down your time and resources
3. She gets you to emotionally invest and confide in her as if she's your best friend, all under the guise of "love and loyalty"
4. She invades your male spaces and hobbies

All while she:
1. Gossips to her friends about your negative characteristics, while they encourage her to dump you
2. Fields options from other men, constantly looking for the better deal
3. Consistently makes mental notes of your shortcomings
4. Mercilessly stabs you in the back and leaves you with your head in your hands.

The only way to flip the script is for high-value men to refuse monogamy, because other than consistent sex, the companionship/friendship aspect isn't worth the pain.

[Kid Twist]

I reiterate the above. If she's good looking at all, dick is being thrown at her ad infinitum. Let's be real. Even a guy with a lot of shit going for him has to ACT. She has to REACT. As long as she's not a recluse, it never ends. And you don't think there were always sideline interests or backburners?

Get lucky and get a good girl, or get out of the West, or both.

[nek]

There's an important aside to this. Women simply have better support networks then men. Think about the beginning of a relationship. You go around meeting her family and friends and everyone's telling you how you need to be good to her (this process usually involves people you just met threatening you, which is absurdly an acceptable way of treating a new boyfriend). She goes around meeting your family and they're all telling her how she's too good for you and busting your chops. While this seems innocent, it's basically communicating to her that you can be treated like some ray Romano-esque doofus.

As the relationship progresses, you're slowly pulled further and further into her circle, with ever growing expectations to hang out with her friends more and more, all the while your friendships are put on the back burner.

And finally we get to the breakup. She's lonely and upset, but no worries, out come the orbiters inviting her to parties, the friends trying to set her up, and the long talks with her mother. An upset man on the other hand, is thrown no lifeline and is generally treated as an overall pariah. No one wants to hang out with the guy feeling blue, and for sure no one is going to help him with worthwhile advice.

In short, everyone is there to support her, no one gives a shit about the man. At worst, your stuck on the Titanic, at best, your required to row everyone to safety. Her spot on the lifeboat is guaranteed.

[Vaun]

(05-29-2017 12:14 AM)nek Wrote:  

An upset man on the other hand, is thrown no lifeline and is generally treated as an overall pariah. No one wants to hang out with the guy feeling blue, and for sure no one is going to help him with worthwhile advice.

It may be a little taboo, but this place is a life line to really any man seeking high quality advice from well intentioned men. I have gotten some of the best advice in my life via threads and PM's. To anyone going through the dark spots I would encourage you to post as much as possible, PM people you like for additional advice, pay it forward when you get it, be honest with yourself and the other posters, and look at this place as a resource for helpful information when you need it. Put your ego aside and expose yourself a little during these times and you will most likely get the advice you need.

[sagely scholar]

Women experience things related to relating more intensively, so it takes them less time overall.

Men often suppress/repress/ignore the pain in the moment, so it comes back later with interest.

[rudebwoy]

Woman are smart enough to know, the quickest way to get over someone is to be with another person

[griffinmill]

I've had maybe three medium to long-term relationships in my life, and in only one of these relationships I was particularly devastated when it came to an end.

But the common denominator in all of the break-ups is that my ex was with another guy immediately after, to the extent she must've had both hands on two different branches before letting go of one.

In all of these relationships I began to emotionally disengage until they finally made the choice to end things. The ex from my longest relationship was desperately trying to work things out with me in every way she could... and after about two weeks of no communication from me I went to see her, feeling pretty glum... and she told me I had to leave before the new boyfriend picked her up! I was floored, but that was a really important lesson. She's married to him now.

Women are able to disengage quite effectively when they realise the relationship isn't working for whatever reason, and they decide to hedge their bets with the new guy. As other posters have said, for them it's transactional, not emotional.

Interestingly, my most recent ex started seeing someone about a month after telling me she was going to kill herself due to the breakup, and while she's been posting pictures of them together on her Instagram, a few rows down and she still has pictures of me there. Make of that what you will.

[JayGould]

I don't agree with this at all. I know plenty of women who got dumped 5+ years ago and still can't move on from that one guy. Personally the longest I've dreaded a breakup with a woman has been a couple of days, maybe a week. So, guess it's up to the person and the dynamics of the relationship. One party of the relationship is always going to be less invested and "in love" than the other. This is usually the person who does the breakup. It is much worse being broken up with than breaking up with someone. The former hurts your self esteem in a completely different way.

[Batman_]

Because women have more options. A girl breaks up, she can get laid that night. It might take a guy 2 weeks.

Of course, there are exceptions. A lot of it comes down to attachment.

[N°6]

Anyone remember the author’s name who wrote that the modern ‘relationship’ typically goes through the same cycle of the woman first agitating for it before her being the party to first check out of it?

[Incubus]

Lots of opinions here (good ones) but we have to remember every girl is different.
Meaning how each girl reacts to a situational crisis is "no one hat fits all".
A virgin, a non virgin, a slut, a 30 year old , a 6 month or a 6 year relationship, kids involved ugly girls cute girls...e.t.c all girls will react in a different way

Don't over rate chicks on how they process the end of a relationship. Women are dull emotional social creatures. If you can't predict winning lottery numbers don't bother figuring out women....because women will go there entire live mystified even over themselves and why they do certian things. Women's favorite topic is themselves.

In my 20's a friend of mine who broke up with his long term sweetie asked me "how can I get over her", all I said was go home and do what she does be dull "bore the shit out of yourself for a few weeks don't even watch TV do nothing'......then after a month I'll come over.
Month later I went over to his place knocked on the door and he dove outside, I said how ya feeling? Great! he said followed immediately by.. What are we doing drinks? Let's go
Yea! I said and I just want you to know your chick's been banging your buddy Bob.
He said No shit oh well fuck her let's goooooo

Does the above work every time...mostly....a guy has to grieve then needs time to get re energized....and it helps going sexless and building that drive system up. Then he's practically a new man