[LeoneVolpe]

(05-12-2017 01:37 PM)Rawmeo Wrote:  

(05-12-2017 10:54 AM)Vinny Wrote:  

Cons: Maintaining lies will never allow you to relax totally in a presence of your girlfriend. And the more you invest in relationship, more stress you will feel.

You can totally relax and not have any ounce of stress when you know that your setup is air-tight and there's no chance of your GF receiving a phone call from a pissed girl.

Plus, having 2 SIM cards allows you to mute your second line when you're with your main. My second Line app has calling disabled. This ensures that nobody can make my phone ring when I'm with my wife. No danger of a girl calling at the wrong moment.

There are also several datasheets on suppressing evidence after cheating - however since most girls love to mark their terrirory, I have a maid go through the secondary residence and clean after each encounter. My car windows are tinted so that the security guards cannot see who's with me in the car, and the parking is out of sight from neighbors. Worst case scenario, if shit hits the fan, I'll have 2 plates fighting with each other while my wife knows nothing about that. I use my phone's remote control to turn off the CCTV when I arrive with a plate, and turn it back on after we leave. The security guards have the instruction to call me when someone arrives at the house - if I don't pick up the phone, they don't let them in (exceptions: UPS, Fedex, mailman, gardener, maid).

On Android devices, it is possible to install the Xposed framework through a kernel modification, and then install the Xprivacy sandbox that allows you to run apps (Line, Whatsapp, etc. etc.) in the "secure" sandbox with IMEI / serial / phone # / etc. spoofed - this way, there's no connection between my accounts. The Hushed app coupled with an anonymous prepaid Visa card allows you to create a burner phone number in any juridiction to register your Line accounts (even real life ones). My real-life Line account is registered to a burner as well, in case someone who can see my file (nurse, bank teller, etc.) tries to look me up using my phone number. There's no evidence of Line linking the accounts, but in the future they might, so I don't want to give them enough data to do so.

I have no Facebook at all. I carry fake IDs if asked - however, I always have my real IDs in a backpocket in my wallet in case an official asks for them - I don't want to break the law.

I never allow any plate to take a picture of me. My excuse is that I'm a professional and don't want pictures in inappropriate circumstances to show up publicly.

Other things to consider:
1) The EasyPass logs - a jealous wife can look in the EasyPass card history to see at what time the car passed at which location - I don't have any and always pay the tolls by cash.
2) Credit card logs - a jealous wife can open mail under my name and see where I spent money - for this reason, all expenses are paid by cash or Bitcoin. My bank is too lame to switch to e-statements. Everything that absolutely requires a credit card gets paid using an anonymous card with no paper statement.
3) GPS position - it might be obvious, but people sometimes forget: all apps tracking your position should be disabled. I once forgot my phone at home and my ex-girlfriend called a technician to install a tracking device - I only found about it when she told me she knew where I went. She had found my passcode by looking over my shoulder once. My rooted phone allows me to see which "unusual" processes are running. I also now use fingerprints to unlock the phone, making this attack vector harder.
4) Excuses - you need a plausible excuse everytime. For this very reason, I have "friends" who I present to my wife as being players but cool to hang with. This makes my wife hate them and doesn't want to meet them, giving me the perfect opportunity to go drain my balls elsewhere.

Never underestimate a jealous girl. My wife isn't really jealous, but I'd better be safe than sorry. Jealousy starts when suspicion starts.

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[Bluesunrise]

Hi guys I just wanted to say that I love this forum.
I am a gamer but before I was in RSD facebook group forums. I am not anymore...
The reason why I am telling you I love this forum is that those kinds of "cheating" topics are even not tolerated in RSD forums. They tell you things like "Come on man respect your girl friend bla bla bla"...
But the truth is as a man even If I am with a very sexy submissive perfect 10, a few months later I will still look for new pussy. It is man's nature...
■ First step is to ACCEPT your true nature as a man
■ Second step is to except that you love / like your girlfriend SO it must be a secret. It must be your secret garden
■ 3rd step is to accept the risk and say to yourself evrything is risky = taking a plane / crossing the street / driving a car BUT AS WE ACCEPTED those risks we don t even think about them
■ Also the thing I found is when you are honest with the girls that you game you re less stressfull. (The single women who already know that you re in couple or other married or taken women) I mean you may consider telling taken girls that you re seeing someone / in a couple which may make you game in a more calm sate which permets you to be fully yourself.
■ Lastly sometimes you don t even have to be honest towards the girls that you re gaming for exemple when you re gaming in a city which is very far away from your home town OR WHEN you re gaming a tourist girl who is visiting your home town who leaves for example in 3 -4 days....
ANYWAY here are the things that helped me game other girls while I keep my relationship with my girlfriend....

[ExploringReality]

About the psychological effect, one thing I've found is a subtle desire for it to end. Let me explain. I've been with 2 girls, both of which say that love me and are planning long-term, for...I don't know, 2 months? I find this stressful. I have to check for hairs, I have to be careful with the phone, I have to be careful when out, etc. And sometimes, when one gets a little bitchy I find some thoughts arising in my mind...thoughts about her being even more bitchy so that I can dump her. Ironically, this makes me more detached, as if I was wanting them to fall off rotation, and I guess this is super-glue for the pussy. And I thought I was stressed on my dry-spell.

The Buddha was right.

[Philosopher]

(05-05-2017 05:52 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  

If your woman finds out you're seeing another woman behind her back, of course she's going to flip out. But I don't see how being honest with a woman about seeing other women after you've been seeing each other for a while does anything to mitigate a negative response.

Being honest with a woman violates the "Conceal Your Intentions" Law of Power, by giving her information she can then use against you. A woman might eventually end up in a position to hurt you anyway, but I wouldn't be quick to provide her with a useful blueprint on how to potentially do it.

In my experience, honesty (especially as it relates to women) isn't always the best policy.

To share one of my longest personal experiences while being on the blue pill. This was an LTR with a Russian exchange student who I met in Colorado (a 7). We began sleeping in 2009 and being a chump, I quickly agreed to an LTR - mostly due to her superb blowjob skills and her seemingly being open-mined to an open-relationship as long as we were honest with one another.

After moving to Russia the next year, got a gig teaching English for corporate students and lived in my gf's flat in the distant Moscow suburbs (one hour train ride) and one of my colleagues an (8.5 with super long legs) was giving me the green light. I told my girlfriend that I was going to sleep with her and she was nervous about it, though she actually blew me as I was seducing my colleague via skype. After I went over to my colleagues house to bang her, my gf became upset and ran away to live with her aunt for a week. Undeterred, continued banging my long-legged colleague while my gf came back and caused a scene when she saw our pic together on facebook. She then left again, to visit her parents this time. I continued my affair.

A few weeks later, she came back with an upgrade - died her hair blonde, sexy dresses and high heels. Went up to a 9 so went back to fucking her. I would continue fucking both girls for the next month or so and even suggested a schedule to my gf that I would spend one night there one night here. This caused her to become upset at me again. I went back to the tall mistress. Eventually, my gf persuaded me to offer a threesome to my mistress (brilliant move on her part) and my mistress refused and threw out all my clothes from her apartment. Went back to living with my gf.

In essence, the relationship never really went back to normal as after the threat of my mistress was gone, she began to nag me about cheating on her. At every argument, her counterpoint was that I was a cheater. Our relationship hobbled along with me now going behind her back (throw-away phones, fake accounts, etc.) to cheat and she actually got back at me when I went on a hunting trip to Karelia in 2011. She told me about it herself, that it was a onetime fling an I said "we are even" We still had amazing sex and filmed amateur porn but the trust was gone. On a visa run in 2012, I cheated on her some more with 38 year old single mom (a 6.5) and was honest with her - which caused her to have a nervous break down. A month later, she began cheating on me, just as I had helped her buy and remodel a new flat. It was obvious since she was not home. Finally, I decided to end this cycle and rented a flat with some of my buddies.

Draw your own conclusions, but as you can see, girls may agree to an open-relationship in theory, but they are not equipped to handle it when it actually happens. Though on the bright side, they will "upgrade" themselves if they think you are worse keeping. Perhaps continuing to cheat openly would have kept the pressure on her but the nagging and stress outweighed the sex. When I was moving out, I felt just like Roosh did at the end of Possy Paradise. I was free to chase the holy grail once again.