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Cheating and Gaming - Psychological Effects
#26

Cheating and Gaming - Psychological Effects

I look at relationships as being a form of the Prisoner's Dilemma fallacy. Obviously, the best case scenario would be for both parties to remain faithful to each other, or for neither party to do each other wrong. But, in all likelihood, someone's going to fuck someone over sooner or later. The question is, who's it going to be?

If you cheat, she's the sucker. If she cheats, you're the sucker. Maybe your girl will never cheat, but there's always a chance no matter how slim she could. If that's the case, despite how petty it may sound, I'd feel a whole lot better knowing I struck first blood.
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#27

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Many good things have been said already, but here's my point of view. This is coming from a guy that has had a harem of between 3-10 girls continuously the last 5 years. With some of these girls I pretend to be somewhat serious, others know exactly whats up. What I do is in general say nothing or always say ambiguous things or keep an open end/way out, commit to nothing and make sure they are having a good time and can always see the positive side of being with me, although in their mind it must be obvious that I am not in for a 100%. I am sure for the majority of guys out there, this is exhausting mentally and they won't be able to run it long term.

It requires a lot of lying, keeping sharp at all time, having social media locked down, knowing where to watch out etc. You have to be a sharp and cold guy in order for this to succeed. Even when girls find some indicators, even strong ones, I've managed to turn it around. Every girl is also different in my mind. I've found out about girls sleeping around and be completely fine with it, continue fucking them and not caring. Others girls I developed some feelings for and have also found out or had suspicions and I've ditched them and treated them very hard. It seems very morally wrong to be a guy that fucks around all the time and then be hard on a girl who made one mistake. But never forget: men and women are not the same and should not be treated the same. And all is fair in love and war.

How to justify it mentally. There are some key aspects of this mindset:

-abundance game: once you reach a high level of your game, you will start fucking girls that are top of society in looks and attraction. Trust me it's not easy to keep these girls around. You have to have your inner game on top level and I believe this is only possible if you are a psychopath or a guy that just knows he has a lot of options and its your way or the highway, even when dating 2-3 points up on the scale. So for me and perhaps for everyone, it can almost be a choice between doing it this way or knowing you will lose the top girls around quickly or will not even be able to get to them in the first place.

-related to this is the learning aspect, when you are a young guy and you will fuck and stay with only one girl at a time, you will never learn as much as a guy that plays around. If you choose to be faithful, in the long term, you will become noncompetitive. Let's say all other factors are equal. Between me, who's fucked over a 100 and dated a shitload of girls simultaneously and a 30 year or so old guy who's had 5 monogamous relationships of 2 years, who do you think has the most insight in woman psychology, who knows more about differences between girls, about how to respond to certain situations, drama etc. The girl of your dreams may get snapped away because you did not develop yourself sufficiently one day, I won't take that risk. More important than being morally 100% correct in life for me is to be a winner, to get everything out of life. And you can always decide to become monogamous later in life or later in a relationship when a girl is truly worth it.

-evolutionary aspects: there's a lot to say about this, but in general a women that cheats puts herself and a relationship in a much higher risk. If she gets pregnant, her life can become a lot more difficult. The life of the cuck can become destroyed as well. Men don't have these 'responsibilities' so the aftermath of cheating is not the same between sexes. A player is also doing what he genetically is designed to do, spread his seed as much as possible for survival. A women cannot say the same. Search for this on the forum and you will find some good books going a lot deeper into the subject.

-mindstate of modern women: girls these days love a man that has a lot of options, even when its very out in the open. When you are with a girl you see all the other girls looking. Friends of her will try to get with you, trust me I've fucked more than one good friend of girls I've been dating. They are attracted to dark triad personalities, men that threat them bad, men that play around.. all of this is interesting to them. They set this game field and if you are the guy that is able to be a player and live as I do... you will be rewarded. You will live like a king with constant attention of beautiful women. Who are you to deny to play a game in which they have set the rules? I will admit this is not equal all over the world, so local culture plays a role and you should take that into account.

These are just some of the things that come to my mind. Nevertheless it's not for everyone and there are mental downsides as well. The things you learn will make it a lot harder to trust people, to commit yourself to a girl that deserves it, etc. There's a saying that says: “The liar's punishment is, not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else.” There is truth in this. Mental peace will also be rare, there will always be one plate bringing the drama.

Know yourself and realize who you are and if this if is for you or not and understand the consequences of each decision. That's all I can say on the topic.
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#28

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Quote: (05-05-2017 04:59 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

Nah, I would never shake my finger in a mans face like that. I am not calling anyone out here.

But, my belief, and experience, is not being open and honest opens you up to an EVEN WORSE ATTACK.

My thought is; once she finds out you're cheating, after you're "in love", she will fuck your life over. Hard. With a vengeance. Cold hearted shit. And then leave you when she is done. Then what if you get your main pregnant? Why even go there? No reason to sneak around, the limitless downside outweighs any benefits of comfort at home.

Of course no worries, I know you're not calling anyone out, it's all good.

I've never been caught cheating, because I'm smart about it and she didn't live in the same city as I, and also didn't frequent the same bars with my main that I did plates (which was rare).

Most girls aren't going to fuck your life over, they're going to dump you. That's pretty much it, it's over.

It's not sneaking around at all, I was never worried or paranoid.

I had venues on lock, bartenders knew the deal, I rarely ran into friends, I'd say I don't talk much to my "ex".

Most girls I did bang I took on one date, then they came over as plates to get fucked.

There are precautions you can take to never get caught.

In my case the benefits outweighed the risks.

Quote: (05-05-2017 05:07 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

Quote: (05-05-2017 05:03 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  

Passing up sex with other girls to remain faithful to a girl who, in all likelihood, you won't be with a year from now is something some guys don't want to deal with. Your mileage may vary. There's risks involved in everything. Some might argue that when it comes to risk, the biggest risk is taking no risks at all.

Then why promise anything? And I would guess most experienced men here are promising exclusivity to wife material. Its a serious ask. I would hope at least in this day and age, you dont have to promise exclusivity just to have sex. And your premise assumes all women cheat. I know that is not the case. Is it in their nature to look when you drop the ball? Of course.

Unless you try its hard to fathom it. Women dont care if you are non-exclusive, if you dont promise otherwise. And they know when you are fucking someone else. Then they cheat on you anyway. So why make dumb empty promises?

Nothing is promised nor guaranteed, an LTR doesn't necessarily mean instant marriage.

The best thing to do is NOT be in an LTR and just spin plates, but eventually as in many cases, one of those plates eventually becomes an LTR by default.

Women DO care if you're non exclusive or not, why ? Because women are investing (nesting) in you. They always do, whether it's fucking you, LTR, wife etc.

The less a woman knows, the better.
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#29

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^ Seconded.

Very good point about how a girl in your harem can become a LTR by default if you keep seeing her long enough.

Keeping 'em in the dark is indeed your best bet. They say "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned," so don't let 'em find out what you're doing and they won't be scornful. As I always say, if you're going to do something stupid, do it smart.
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#30

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Quote: (05-05-2017 06:24 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  

^ Seconded.

Very good point about how a girl in your harem can become a LTR by default if you keep seeing her long enough.

Keeping 'em in the dark is indeed your best bet. They say "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned," so don't let 'em find out what you're doing and they won't be scornful. As I always say, if you're going to do something stupid, do it smart.

I do agree keeping them in the dark about your personal business is the best course you can take. However, thats assuming you even get to that point. But if she is saying "will you only sleep with me", at this point I will say no. And none has walked yet.

A women can fuck you over if she lives in your home, has access to your friends/associates/family, is borrowing or has access to your expensive stuff like a car, or a job, etc. It happens everyday, any family court lawyers care to chime in? The consequences of bringing her in close, then creating the potential for massive drama, is not worth it to me, in any possible way.
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#31

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I never cheat on girls once exclusivity is agreed upon.

That said I've been the only one to suggest exclusivity out of the 25 girls I've banged in my life. Even the girls I suggested it to didn't believe me at first, and it was a bad idea to suggest it in the first place. I'm pretty broke all the time and pretty deeply entrenched lower class type of dude with an outwardly douchebaggy playerish attitude, I don't think I'm ever really an LTR option in these girl's minds. Some shit to work on I guess.

Anyway, there have been times where I want that girl and only that girl that's enough for me, it never lasts for too long - usually they stop giving it up frequently enough at some point and the relationship suffers. If I need to cheat on a girl to stay satisfied and stay with her then I guess I'll be non-committed forever

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More power to ya'll for doing what works for you though. Maybe I'll come around to that way of thinking after a while.
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#32

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Cheating on a girlfriend is easy. Cheating on a live-in girlfriend is what separates the men from the boys. It takes a whole hell of a lot more deceptive skill to do that and keep from being caught.

If you maintain separate residences, you need only come up with a believable alibi, do your thing and that's about it. You may not even have to see your girl for a few days after you bang some new ass, which is more than enough time regain your composure and cover your tracks. If, on the other hand, you have a live-in girlfriend or (God forbid) a wife, you're going to have to come home at some point after going "slithering" and hope you've done a sufficient job of noticing, obscuring and/or removing all traces of lipstick, perfume, glitter, scratches, etc. If she sees/smells anything, you've got to have nerves of steel in order to successfully allay her suspicions whilst keeping your poker face, making sure not to reveal any hint of "duper's delight" (smiling or any other positive sign of self-satisfaction in getting away with something).

For those who haven't done it, it's difficult to explain what this feels like...but when you're successful, a sense of relief/satisfaction comes over you -- you'll feel like O.J. fucking Simpson being acquitted of a double murder charge.

Edit: Learn to keep extra clothes in your car, or keep extra clothes in a locker at the gym you frequent. You never know when you'll need to stop to take a shower and get yourself cleaned up. Better to have 'em and not need 'em than need 'em and not have 'em.

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Advice for a happy man:

You should find a woman that helps you with the cleaning and the chores,

You should find a woman that is a good cook,

You should find a woman that you can trust and share your feelings with,

You should find a woman that enjoys making love to you,

Last and the most important thing is that these 4 women should never meet.
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#33

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The only woman that's going to accept an open relationship is either:

lower SMV - You should be trying harder
Banging other dudes - Not my cup of tea with assorted creams

If you are exclusive and you are banging on the sly, well that suggests a lack of integrity - again not my cup of tea.

Thats my major problem with "Plate theory" - either I am eating out a box with other dudes cream, banging well below my SMV, or a cheating asshole.

This of course only applies to LTRs. If you are banging SNLs or lots of minis then ok.

But I think there is a lot benefit in a good LTR, its my preference.
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#34

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Relevant to this thread.



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#35

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To those wrestling with the idea of cheating and its moral, psychological implications, I highly recommend a film called Enemy, which was released in 2013 with little to no publicity even though it's a masterpiece.

Jack Gyllenhaal is a married player having a kind of cognitive dissonance about his behaviour. The film was a revelation for me.
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#36

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I used to struggle with this.

Whenever I'd get the idea in my head that I'm doing something wrong (and drop the side women) my game would suffer majorly with my main.

I have found it near impossible to keep an abundance mindset and to not be seeing other women.

“It is far better for a man to go wrong in freedom than to go right in chains.” Thomas Henry Huxley

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#37

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Great thread. I was going through this for 2 years as I had a LTR that was pretty serious, yet through the whole time I was continually spinning other plates. For the first year and a half, we had a "don't ask, don't tell" soft arrangement, where she basically accepted it, and was running 4-5 plates the whole time. I still felt guilty about it but wasn't too bad. My sense is that she was seeing other people earlier on but was totally monogamous after that. Eventually, I became more serious with one of the other plates, so basically getting myself into dual LTRs, and LTR #1 started freaking out. That is when everything started to crumble. I was pretty open with them about seeing the other, basically adopted a "take it or leave it" attitude. LTR #1 became depressed and anxious all the time, blowing up my phone, the energy in the relationship was so bad. Meanwhile LTR #2 was constantly giving me a hard time and trying to get me to drop LTR #1. It was a nightmare, thought I was going to lose my mind. Eventually I cleaned it up and broke up with both of them, it was really difficult, but the best thing I've ever done for myself.

I hate lying but when things were really bad, I found myself having the lie all the time about when I had last seen the other one, etc. I had my phone on mega lockdown, set it so there's not even a pop-up if someone calls you while you're looking at the phone(manual mode not disturb on iPhone), no social media. Honestly it was pretty stressful and more hassle than it was worth, looking back. I felt paranoid fairly often. Girls are so much more attuned to subtle details, and I would frequently get my spot blown up by things I had missed despite a lot of effort.

Having a LTR and chasing girls on the side does put you in an excellent frame. In a lot of ways, it was like training wheels for me, as my game improved so much over that time. Frame is definitely a weak spot of my game, and now that I don't have that psychological anchor, I can feel its absence. Still, I'm not sure if I would go for a situation like that again.
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#38

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None. Business as usual.
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#39

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Quote: (05-05-2017 08:24 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  

Cheating on a girlfriend is easy. Cheating on a live-in girlfriend is what separates the men from the boys. It takes a whole hell of a lot more deceptive skill to do that and keep from being caught.

If you maintain separate residences, you need only come up with a believable alibi, do your thing and that's about it. You may not even have to see your girl for a few days after you bang some new ass, which is more than enough time regain your composure and cover your tracks. If, on the other hand, you have a live-in girlfriend or (God forbid) a wife, you're going to have to come home at some point after going "slithering" and hope you've done a sufficient job of noticing, obscuring and/or removing all traces of lipstick, perfume, glitter, scratches, etc. If she sees/smells anything, you've got to have nerves of steel in order to successfully allay her suspicions whilst keeping your poker face, making sure not to reveal any hint of "duper's delight" (smiling or any other positive sign of self-satisfaction in getting away with something).

For those who haven't done it, it's difficult to explain what this feels like...but when you're successful, a sense of relief/satisfaction comes over you -- you'll feel like O.J. fucking Simpson being acquitted of a double murder charge.

Edit: Learn to keep extra clothes in your car, or keep extra clothes in a locker at the gym you frequent. You never know when you'll need to stop to take a shower and get yourself cleaned up. Better to have 'em and not need 'em than need 'em and not have 'em.

Quote:Quote:

Advice for a happy man:

You should find a woman that helps you with the cleaning and the chores,

You should find a woman that is a good cook,

You should find a woman that you can trust and share your feelings with,

You should find a woman that enjoys making love to you,

Last and the most important thing is that these 4 women should never meet.

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I have an opportunity to score some easy pussy on the side. However, I am wary of the consequences lest my LTR discovers my indiscretion. We have been together for 3 years and I have been faithful so far. She brings alot to the table and I want to remain in a LTR as I trust her to be the future mother of my children.

However, I have an opportunity for some young pussy.

If I am found out the best outcome would be that she can rationalise it away as just sex, recognising her own diminishing SMV, my high libido and my increasing SMV. It's possible that she may try to accept it, knowing the type of man I am. It's just as possible though, that over time, it would eat away at the trust and turn her sweetness to bitterness.

The other end of the spectrum is that on the instant of finding out she flips the full crazy switch and turns vengeful bitch.

Now that I have written it, I'm not sure which is the worse of the two. Is there any other alternative? I'm interested to hear if anyone has experience with being found out and the consequence this had on their LTR.
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Quote: (05-09-2017 04:38 AM)abscondere Wrote:  

I have an opportunity to score some easy pussy on the side. However, I am wary of the consequences lest my LTR discovers my indiscretion. We have been together for 3 years and I have been faithful so far. She brings alot to the table and I want to remain in a LTR as I trust her to be the future mother of my children.

However, I have an opportunity for some young pussy.

If I am found out the best outcome would be that she can rationalise it away as just sex, recognising her own diminishing SMV, my high libido and my increasing SMV. It's possible that she may try to accept it, knowing the type of man I am. It's just as possible though, that over time, it would eat away at the trust and turn her sweetness to bitterness.

The other end of the spectrum is that on the instant of finding out she flips the full crazy switch and turns vengeful bitch.

Now that I have written it, I'm not sure which is the worse of the two. Is there any other alternative? I'm interested to hear if anyone has experience with being found out and the consequence this had on their LTR.

^ As I said before, if you're going to do something stupid, do it smart. I was in a relationship for six years and cheated for nearly all of it and was never found out. The relationship eventually ended, but not because my indiscretions were discovered.

When it comes to cheating, I recommend following Law 28 (Enter Action with Boldness) which states "If you are unsure of a course of action, do not attempt it. Your doubts and hesitations will infect your execution. Timidity is dangerous; better to enter with boldness."
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Quote: (05-09-2017 04:38 AM)abscondere Wrote:  

I have an opportunity to score some easy pussy on the side. However, I am wary of the consequences lest my LTR discovers my indiscretion. We have been together for 3 years and I have been faithful so far. She brings alot to the table and I want to remain in a LTR as I trust her to be the future mother of my children.

However, I have an opportunity for some young pussy.

Why bother risking everything for a fold of smelly skin?
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#43

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Quote: (05-11-2017 04:38 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2017 04:38 AM)abscondere Wrote:  

I have an opportunity to score some easy pussy on the side. However, I am wary of the consequences lest my LTR discovers my indiscretion. We have been together for 3 years and I have been faithful so far. She brings alot to the table and I want to remain in a LTR as I trust her to be the future mother of my children.

However, I have an opportunity for some young pussy.

Why bother risking everything for a fold of smelly skin?

Good point. If only we could always think of random pussy like that. [Image: icon_lol.gif]
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#44

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What is cheating any way? We have to stop vilifying sex with multiple partners as cheating for men, it's not.

It's based on the value a person brings to the relationship.

A woman's value is her body, therefore when she fucks someone else, she is "cheating" because she's giving her value to someone else.

A man's value is his resources, therefore when he spends his time and money on someone else, he is "cheating" because he's giving his value to someone else.

A woman doesn't bring resources to the relationship, why would I care if my girl is spending money on someone else? As long as she isn't fucking him I couldn't give a shit. And If I'm married and have children, why should a woman care who I fuck if I fulfill my investment in my family?

The pussified mainstream has everyone convinced that the feminine biological imperative applies to men, it doesn't. Sperm is abundant, eggs are scarce, therefore it's impossible to compare the value of a woman's body to a man's. So why are we equating our sexuality?

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#45

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Quote: (05-12-2017 02:24 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

What is cheating any way? We have to stop vilifying sex with multiple partners as cheating for men, it's not.

It's based on the value a person brings to the relationship.

A woman's value is her body, therefore when she fucks someone else, she is "cheating" because she's giving her value to someone else.

A man's value is his resources, therefore when he spends his time and money on someone else, he is "cheating" because he's giving his value to someone else.

A woman doesn't bring resources to the relationship, why would I care if my girl is spending money on someone else? As long as she isn't fucking him I couldn't give a shit. And If I'm married and have children, why should a woman care who I fuck if I fulfill my investment in my family?

The pussified mainstream has everyone convinced that the feminine biological imperative applies to men, it doesn't. Sperm is abundant, eggs are scarce, therefore it's impossible to compare the value of a woman's body to a man's. So why are we equating our sexuality?

That's some real profound shit. I've never looked at it from that point of view. This is why I love this forum, some interesting concepts that one simply can't find anywhere else.
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#46

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Quote: (05-12-2017 02:24 AM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

What is cheating any way? We have to stop vilifying sex with multiple partners as cheating for men, it's not.

It's based on the value a person brings to the relationship.

A woman's value is her body, therefore when she fucks someone else, she is "cheating" because she's giving her value to someone else.

A man's value is his resources, therefore when he spends his time and money on someone else, he is "cheating" because he's giving his value to someone else.

A woman doesn't bring resources to the relationship, why would I care if my girl is spending money on someone else? As long as she isn't fucking him I couldn't give a shit. And If I'm married and have children, why should a woman care who I fuck if I fulfill my investment in my family?

The pussified mainstream has everyone convinced that the feminine biological imperative applies to men, it doesn't. Sperm is abundant, eggs are scarce, therefore it's impossible to compare the value of a woman's body to a man's. So why are we equating our sexuality?

That's some serious dope and I totally agree with you.

I'd also like to add something: The boredom that sets in place after fucking the same girl continuously. For example, take my wife. Yes, I love her, and she is the perfect mother for my kids. She has everything that a wife needs to have: virgin, well preserved body, university degree, complete family, no LGBT in social circle, cooks for me, doesn't complain. The problem is, even a "unicorn" like this one will make you bored after a while without new pussy.

Therefore, I need to fuck other girls. Not by revenge, not to hurt her, but to renew my interest and make me love my wife more. When I see my wife after fucking another girl, I feel better with her, and she is more attractive to my eyes.

I am what we call a professional cheater. Despite having a live-in wife, I have a secondary residence that no one knows about - and that's where I bring girls. I have fake IDs, no social media, and 2 distinct Line apps (the fake one runs in Xprivacy framework with serial / IMEI spoofing). I also have 2 phone numbers. I have a completely different identity with my plates, and there's no way that my 2 lives can be linked together. That's some next level shit, but my wife is strict on cheating so I have to use creativity.

3 years and never an ounce of suspicion, so I think it works.
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#47

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...
Here's the truth I have yet to see clearly stated in this thread -

Cheating is fuckn delicious.

All our moralizing, philosophizing, and rationalization serves to obfuscate one important and irrational fact - forbidden sex is often the BEST sex. Few things in life are more savory than a young girl screaming on your dick in full-body asshole-clenching orgasm on the hotel balcony where you might at any moment be seen while her bitch-ass millennial borefriend blows up her phone.

All the better if she doesn't know that you know that she has a borefriend...or imagines that she has you on lock...

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Quote: (05-12-2017 06:46 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:  

I am what we call a professional cheater. Despite having a live-in wife, I have a secondary residence that no one knows about - and that's where I bring girls. I have fake IDs, no social media, and 2 distinct Line apps (the fake one runs in Xprivacy framework with serial / IMEI spoofing).

...and here I was thinking I was James Bond because I had two sim cards.
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#49

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I did it for about a year before I ended my relationship. I went to different countries and banged numerous girls while still having a relationship. My ex never found out and never will.

Tip: get a job which requires you to travel. If you keep these things apart - girlfriend and plates, then it is manageable.
And by apart I mean preferably, countries or even continents apart.

You won't have to walk around the city looking over your shoulder, and you will not rely on a chance. Everything will be in your hands and with good plan and by being smart you can have both.

Is it good? I don't know. Will you feel bad? Sometimes. Is there a way out of this dilemma? I haven't found it yet.

Here is a basic conflict in human nature. Novelty/adventure and stability are the opposite sides of the same scale. Yet both are in the list of man's needs. Modern society does not accept novelty and stability in relationships at the same time thus leaving a modern day man forever unsatisfied.

Lying and cheating is not a panacea to this problem. It is like treating symptoms instead of healing a decease. But we can't change the society, so it is an option.

Pros: If you live a double life, you become super sharp. All the lies require maintenance and self control and this really trains your brain.

Cons: Maintaining lies will never allow you to relax totally in a presence of your girlfriend. And the more you invest in relationship, more stress you will feel.

I think having a girl accept your need to fuck another girl or two a month is a way out. But I have not yet found a girl I truly like who will accept it. And even if she will this will turn me off her. This is one of the biggest man's life existential problems.
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Quote: (05-12-2017 10:54 AM)Vinny Wrote:  

Cons: Maintaining lies will never allow you to relax totally in a presence of your girlfriend. And the more you invest in relationship, more stress you will feel.

You can totally relax and not have any ounce of stress when you know that your setup is air-tight and there's no chance of your GF receiving a phone call from a pissed girl.

Plus, having 2 SIM cards allows you to mute your second line when you're with your main. My second Line app has calling disabled. This ensures that nobody can make my phone ring when I'm with my wife. No danger of a girl calling at the wrong moment.

There are also several datasheets on suppressing evidence after cheating - however since most girls love to mark their terrirory, I have a maid go through the secondary residence and clean after each encounter. My car windows are tinted so that the security guards cannot see who's with me in the car, and the parking is out of sight from neighbors. Worst case scenario, if shit hits the fan, I'll have 2 plates fighting with each other while my wife knows nothing about that. I use my phone's remote control to turn off the CCTV when I arrive with a plate, and turn it back on after we leave. The security guards have the instruction to call me when someone arrives at the house - if I don't pick up the phone, they don't let them in (exceptions: UPS, Fedex, mailman, gardener, maid).

On Android devices, it is possible to install the Xposed framework through a kernel modification, and then install the Xprivacy sandbox that allows you to run apps (Line, Whatsapp, etc. etc.) in the "secure" sandbox with IMEI / serial / phone # / etc. spoofed - this way, there's no connection between my accounts. The Hushed app coupled with an anonymous prepaid Visa card allows you to create a burner phone number in any juridiction to register your Line accounts (even real life ones). My real-life Line account is registered to a burner as well, in case someone who can see my file (nurse, bank teller, etc.) tries to look me up using my phone number. There's no evidence of Line linking the accounts, but in the future they might, so I don't want to give them enough data to do so.

I have no Facebook at all. I carry fake IDs if asked - however, I always have my real IDs in a backpocket in my wallet in case an official asks for them - I don't want to break the law.

I never allow any plate to take a picture of me. My excuse is that I'm a professional and don't want pictures in inappropriate circumstances to show up publicly.

Other things to consider:
1) The EasyPass logs - a jealous wife can look in the EasyPass card history to see at what time the car passed at which location - I don't have any and always pay the tolls by cash.
2) Credit card logs - a jealous wife can open mail under my name and see where I spent money - for this reason, all expenses are paid by cash or Bitcoin. My bank is too lame to switch to e-statements. Everything that absolutely requires a credit card gets paid using an anonymous card with no paper statement.
3) GPS position - it might be obvious, but people sometimes forget: all apps tracking your position should be disabled. I once forgot my phone at home and my ex-girlfriend called a technician to install a tracking device - I only found about it when she told me she knew where I went. She had found my passcode by looking over my shoulder once. My rooted phone allows me to see which "unusual" processes are running. I also now use fingerprints to unlock the phone, making this attack vector harder.
4) Excuses - you need a plausible excuse everytime. For this very reason, I have "friends" who I present to my wife as being players but cool to hang with. This makes my wife hate them and doesn't want to meet them, giving me the perfect opportunity to go drain my balls elsewhere.

Never underestimate a jealous girl. My wife isn't really jealous, but I'd better be safe than sorry. Jealousy starts when suspicion starts.
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