[Parlay44]

So this is a concept I've thought about for a while. Let me lay down my basic view of it and hopefully you guys can expand on it a little for me.

When men gather together to form a group they tend to form a pack. One man tends to be the leader(the Alpha) and the others tend to follow his lead. They instinctively form a sort of hierarchy or a social pyramid structure. What makes a man the leader of the pack isn't necessarily his money, looks, intelligence, penis size ...etc it's his willingness to take control and responsibility. Women (being the naturally social creatures that they are) easily analyze the group of men and break it down. They've been doing it since they were little girls.

The best analogy I can throw out there is when a little girl tries to get something she wants from her mother and gets turned down. She then takes it to a higher authority(her father) and tries her persuasive magic with him and is often times successful. She knows the hierarchy of the house and goes right for the top.

Women in groups on the other hand tend to form herds. They group together by their perceived level of attractiveness with the occasional fat or ugly girl tagging along. A group of four 7's with the fat or ugly 2. How many times have you seen this fellas?

In my experience women are communal. If they're out in the bars or clubs just to have a good time the group will cock block any approaching man trying to isolate a member of their heard.

However, if they're out in the bars or clubs looking to hook-up they always look out for the least attractive member of their herd. They want to make sure their fat or ugly girlfriend gets some action before they drop their bitch shields and give you some play. You can see this in action if you've ever watched The Jersey Shore. One guy always entertains the fat girl(or the grenade) while the other guy goes for the hot one. No Alpha would ever purposefully go after the fat or ugly girl. You aim for the top first and then settle for what you can get.

Men on the other hand have an understanding that if they have a good chance at sex they can break away from their pack for the rest of the night. The other guys are on their own and reform their hierarchy and pick a new leader. The problem being women with their herd mentality make it difficult to break one away. They have an all or nothing mindset. If the fat girl doesn't get laid then nobody gets laid.

I've read plenty of guys on here talking about rolling dolo to the bars or clubs and I couldn't agree with that more. What rolling dolo does for you is automatically makes you the pack leader or the top of your male social pyramid. Even though though your pack is only a pack of one. You're not affected by the thoughts and actions of other pack member because there are none. You're in charge of you actions, game and possibility of getting laid for the night. Rolling dolo = Alpha.

You would think women would look at you like you're a loser and have no friends or you're some creepy dude at the club. That's totally not true. They're actually intrigued by it and want to know the deal. It even holds true if you're an older guy. Women have no problem dating older men. Some actually prefer it. Older guys have more money, status, life experience and more interesting stories.

So if you're feeling like you're not getting enough action, you may want to think about breaking away from your group once in a while, rolling dolo to bars and clubs where you don't know anybody or when you're ready, start you're own male social pyramid with yourself as the pack leader.

[scorpio]

From what I've seen, hot girls rarely hang with other hot girls because of the jealousy thing. The only consistent exception to this is if they're relatives - sisters, cousins, etc.

Invariably, I see a pecking order in female herds. A really hot girl will often hang with a pretty girl. And I've seen a troll pair with the hot girl, she's usually the cockblocker.

I do see similar-status girl groups, but these are always ugly chicks, fat chicks, or modestly-attractive chicks. They don't have the unbearable nature that the high-status females have.

[Parlay44]

(08-28-2011 02:47 PM)scorpio Wrote:  

From what I've seen, hot girls rarely hang with other hot girls because of the jealousy thing. The only consistent exception to this is if they're relatives - sisters, cousins, etc.

Invariably, I see a pecking order in female herds. A really hot girl will often hang with a pretty girl. And I've seen a troll pair with the hot girl, she's usually the cockblocker.

I do see similar-status girl groups, but these are always ugly chicks, fat chicks, or modestly-attractive chicks. They don't have the unbearable nature that the high-status females have.

So at what point do women exclude hotter women from social outings? Do average girls 5's-7's exclude 8's and above?

[scorpio]

(08-28-2011 03:04 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

So at what point do women exclude hotter women from social outings? Do average girls 5's-7's exclude 8's and above?

That's not the way it works. The hot girl allows the less attractive girls to hang out with her and becomes kind of like the queen bee.

5/7's may be jealous of and bitch about the 8+'s behind their backs, but they don't exert any influence/power over them unless they have something else working in their favor.

I remember I was at this club one time, and I was chatting up a 10. To her right was a low 8/high 7. To her right there was a solid 3. It's like that.

[Parlay44]

(08-28-2011 03:24 PM)scorpio Wrote:  

(08-28-2011 03:04 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

So at what point do women exclude hotter women from social outings? Do average girls 5's-7's exclude 8's and above?

That's not the way it works. The hot girl allows the less attractive girls to hang out with her and becomes kind of like the queen bee.

5/7's may be jealous of and bitch about the 8+'s behind their backs, but they don't exert any influence/power over them unless they have something else working in their favor.

I remember I was at this club one time, and I was chatting up a 10. To her right was a low 8/high 7. To her right there was a solid 3. It's like that.

You should have talked to the 8 and 3 and ignored the 10. The 10 would have been dying inside and been all over you later.

[el mechanico]

I've seen this hundreds of times. One comes to mind where the tables got turned twice in one night.

Me and a few of my friends went to a happening nightspot and my buddy (who was having a rough time with women) saw a girl he liked in a pack.
He met her before and said hi then they were moving around talking to other groups etc.
I felt bad for him and knew what was going to happen so guess what?

I went in hard and fast on the Fatty! YUP! We had them following us around instead of the latter.

We ended up at the girls apt. that my friend liked and her ex came to the door after about an hour of weed smoking, drinking and talking.

I told the Fatty to get rid of him or were leaving and shoved my tongue down her throat and sucked her lip and neck for a second then whisperd "well?"
Her fat ass got up and she put her cockblock skills into triple time!
My buddy ended up with that girl for a few years. He's a relationships only type..

[Riker]

El Mechanico you are a great friend

[vinman]

(08-28-2011 09:22 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I've seen this hundreds of times. One comes to mind where the tables got turned twice in one night.

Me and a few of my friends went to a happening nightspot and my buddy (who was having a rough time with women) saw a girl he liked in a pack.
He met her before and said hi then they were moving around talking to other groups etc.
I felt bad for him and knew what was going to happen so guess what?

I went in hard and fast on the Fatty! YUP! We had them following us around instead of the latter.

We ended up at the girls apt. that my friend liked and her ex came to the door after about an hour of weed smoking, drinking and talking.

I told the Fatty to get rid of him or were leaving and shoved my tongue down her throat and sucked her lip and neck for a second then whisperd "well?"
Her fat ass got up and she put her cockblock skills into triple time!
My buddy ended up with that girl for a few years. He's a relationships only type..

"And with blatant disregard for his own well being, El Mechanico, threw himself on the Fat Girl Grenade to save a comrade. So today we award the Purple Cock to El Mechanico for his sacrifice".

[Parlay44]

(08-29-2011 01:13 AM)Riker Wrote:  

El Mechanico you are a great friend

Word. Standing ovation for you el mechanico.

[Pilate]

Purple cock, Fucking hilarious.

[el mechanico]

Thanks guys....Me and my cousin pull this move all the time. It's actually kinda fun.
Its a great way to isolate and it works great on pairs.

[Chad Daring]

   


On a serious note, I've seen this idea that going out alone promotes this kind of instant cred to the women in the area, but I've never seen it. Now granted this is not helped by shitty local venues, but even when I know that I'm on point for the night, that I've got the swag, the look, and the attitude of a true bad motherfucker, I dont ever notice my solitude as being something that helps.

If anything it tends to work against me because during downtime (inbetween approaches) I tend to drink more and lose the vibe as the night goes on.

I do like the analogy though. I'd also add that the "pack" mentality of men could be seen in their ability, but moreso their willingness, to work as a group to overcome a challenge.

Also women as a "herd" works because in large part their just grazing animals waiting to be branded

[Parlay44]

(08-28-2011 03:24 PM)scorpio Wrote:  

(08-28-2011 03:04 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

So at what point do women exclude hotter women from social outings? Do average girls 5's-7's exclude 8's and above?

That's not the way it works. The hot girl allows the less attractive girls to hang out with her and becomes kind of like the queen bee.

5/7's may be jealous of and bitch about the 8+'s behind their backs, but they don't exert any influence/power over them unless they have something else working in their favor.

I remember I was at this club one time, and I was chatting up a 10. To her right was a low 8/high 7. To her right there was a solid 3. It's like that.

I like the Queen Bee analogy. I've heard it used before years ago and it makes sense. It might warrant some more discussion and analysis.

Funny ...I know this blonde girl who's 32 and all she rolls with when she goes out are these women she's friends with who are 45+.

Any of these women would be considered ok looking for their age. But the group dynamic changes when they roll together.

[Moma]

(08-28-2011 09:22 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I've seen this hundreds of times. One comes to mind where the tables got turned twice in one night.

Me and a few of my friends went to a happening nightspot and my buddy (who was having a rough time with women) saw a girl he liked in a pack.
He met her before and said hi then they were moving around talking to other groups etc.
I felt bad for him and knew what was going to happen so guess what?

I went in hard and fast on the Fatty! YUP! We had them following us around instead of the latter.

We ended up at the girls apt. that my friend liked and her ex came to the door after about an hour of weed smoking, drinking and talking.

I told the Fatty to get rid of him or were leaving and shoved my tongue down her throat and sucked her lip and neck for a second then whisperd "well?"
Her fat ass got up and she put her cockblock skills into triple time!
My buddy ended up with that girl for a few years. He's a relationships only type..

El Mechanico, you sound like a swell guy. *Nurses a tear*

[Moma]

(08-30-2011 08:31 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  



On a serious note, I've seen this idea that going out alone promotes this kind of instant cred to the lizards in the area, but I've never seen it.

Everytime I've gone out solo, it has forced me to work harder. I actually focus more on the prey and I have a better pull rate.

However, the drawback is, that I get less numbers on a solo tip than I do with a wing. Cos with a wing, I can re-route and re-locate and swoop lizards who didn't see me talking to another lizard in the first place.

[Deluge]

NEVER take a guy with far better looks than you out as a wingman, even if he has no game and is shy. He'll still pull the attention in sets away from you because he's "soooo cute".

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Late to the party, but I LOVE El Mechanico's story. Very noble and also quick-witted