[Kona]

(04-17-2017 03:58 PM)cascadecombo Wrote:  

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"When [Norway] deployed to Afghanistan we saw that we needed female soldiers. Both as female advisers for the Afghan special police unit that we mentored, but also when we did an arrest," said Col. Frode Kristofferson, the commander of Norway's special forces. "We needed female soldiers to take care of the women and children in the buildings that we searched.

Especially in relation to this, in the Afghan culture women will not speak to men, and in order to communicate with outside forces in a place where spec ops would be, the women, at minimum a translator, is needed to interact with them.

No. This is just bullshit to justify their femininity.

What worked better than a woman talking to the women was a US Marine aiming an M4 at their heads. Or aim it at the husband/fathers head. Let him tell the woman.

Also notice the use of the word " mentored." You "mentor" raw food chefs about farm to table produce and other lgbt issues.

The Jergentroppen is too progressive to call it "training" anymore. Sad.

Aloha!

[cascadecombo]

That's the type of actions that encourage young Afghans to join ISIS and provides fuel for the Mujahideen to add more to their ranks.

I'm not trying to advocate pushing a spec ops team of women who thing they can hulk out on a guy and expect some sort of non comical results, but when you have a culture where men are willing to blow themselves up I can't expect using a gun to their head to produce less bodies than answers.

[RIslander]

[Caractacus Potts]

(04-17-2017 04:41 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(04-17-2017 03:58 PM)cascadecombo Wrote:  

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"When [Norway] deployed to Afghanistan we saw that we needed female soldiers. Both as female advisers for the Afghan special police unit that we mentored, but also when we did an arrest," said Col. Frode Kristofferson, the commander of Norway's special forces. "We needed female soldiers to take care of the women and children in the buildings that we searched.

Especially in relation to this, in the Afghan culture women will not speak to men, and in order to communicate with outside forces in a place where spec ops would be, the women, at minimum a translator, is needed to interact with them.

No. This is just bullshit to justify their femininity.

What worked better than a woman talking to the women was a US Marine aiming an M4 at their heads. Or aim it at the husband/fathers head. Let him tell the woman.

Also notice the use of the word " mentored." You "mentor" raw food chefs about farm to table produce and other lgbt issues.

The Jergentroppen is too progressive to call it "training" anymore. Sad.

Aloha!

When I went through Boot Camp we were lectured on the rules of combat and what the Geneva Convention requires of us as members of the US military.

Later on, noncoms would explain to us that it would help to fire a round into the leg of a captured prisoner and then proceed to ask him questions. They were more likely to be cooperative.

We also talked amongst ourselves that we would not leave prisoners alive behind us that we were unable to be secure or hand off to other friendly forces.

Just like life: What it says in the book. How things are in reality.

These female forces will be captured. Raped. Mutilated. THey will then be sent back as a psyop to fuck with us because their bodies and minds will be broken and disfigured.

Can't we just end these ridiculous social experiments already?

[Duke Castile]

(04-17-2017 03:02 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(04-17-2017 10:18 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  

Women can actually be extremely effective intelligence assets, for a number of reasons, some obvious some not. They can also be an intelligence liability, since they fucking love to talk. Women were very useful to us out in Afghanistan within Military Intelligence, and were able to gather quite a lot of actionable information. They make pretty horrible combat troops, of course, but some specialist units where these women can be put into primarily intelligence gathering roles, and have some semblance of a chance of avoiding being raped and killed in the process, is not necessarily as stupid as it may seem.

One has to trust that although the dictats from on high may be primarily motivated by political correctness, those tasked with deploying an effective fighting force will be savvy enough to use the resources at their disposal effectively. There are many roles that women can usefully fill outside of direct combat. It is worth remembering that SF is, outside of the movies, primarily an intelligence gathering operation. Of course, the men will still do the rough stuff, but an intelligent general could find a use for these girls outside of 'camp comfort'.

This. You can tell the girls whatever you want for esprit de corps, but this is a FAR better idea than trying to integrate them with front line combat troops. It's actually a clever way to keep them AWAY from the stuff women suck at, and it actually does help to have women for certain stuff. This is actually much better than what the US military is doing lowering standards for elite units.

Maybe I am wrong but as far as I know Special Forces is NOT primarily an intelligence gathering unit and has never been that I'm aware of.

I guess Norwary's is possibly different (it seems you are referencing American movies though) but the US Army's SF mission is this;

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The United States Army Special Forces have five primary missions: unconventional warfare (the original and most important mission of Special Forces), foreign internal defense, special reconnaissance, direct action, and counter-terrorism. Other duties include combat search and rescue (CSAR), counter-narcotics, counter-proliferation, hostage rescue, humanitarian assistance, humanitarian demining, information operations, peacekeeping, psychological operations, security assistance, and manhunts.Special Forces have the ability to be virtually everywhere at once; this guarantees that they are the first on the ground or already at a crisis location when trouble starts.

Also, call me crazy, I doubt there is a woman around that knows more than any of the men.

[RBerkley]

...So after thousands of Bodybags of men being returned from Iraq & Afghanistan during 2003-2011, along with tens of thousands of other men losing limbs, PTSD coming home basically in a worse state than before the War...

They now find it convenient to send overpaid women to "work" in the Armed Forces for the Afghanistan mission after the War?

Fuck that shit. It's another Pet Project to encourage Afghani women to become feminists and snitch on their husbands who are probably walking with camel in the desert rather than learning how to demolish 100-story buildings thousands of miles away from a cave.

Plus, Afghanistan is a Patriarchal society. Women aren't involved in the political aspect, unless one wants to indoctrinate them with feminist value, etc.

Iraq-Afghanistan war is almost over too, except in Libya & Syria where Hitlery Clinton fucked up and cause turmoil.

[TheFinalEpic]

Watch the video in the link, its very telling. Some observations:

1. They move significantly slower than male soldiers, with far less intensity, they look like this is for "fun".

2. Watch the girl throw a smoke grenade halfway through. She can't even clear the camera frame before it starts dropping. The throwing technique is extremely weak.

3. The male saying "we need female soldiers" can't believe his own bullshit. He stutters around saying pre fabricated talking points.

This "special forces" unit would be over run by the lowest of grunts in any male army. I'm sorry girls, but you can contribute to the military by being trauma nurses like in wars of past. That's where you're needed, not on the frontlines.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Let's put aside pure physical differences for a second.

My perpetual experience with women being trained for any sort of emergency situation is that they can absolutely pass standardised tests, they can absolutely get things right on a dry run, but when it's real blood and real guts they simply shut down, guaranteed.

The only time sensitive emergency situation I've seen a bare fraction of women operate capably in is a medical emergency occurring in a sheltered medical environment such as a hospital. Out in the world no matter how much training they've done, their every instinct screams at them to step aside and wait for qualified men to arrive.

[Sp5]

They are doing it right in the sense that the unit is all female, not integrated. That just causes drama and intrigue when the woman is down to fuck superiors or peers.

Could be useful in recon roles. There are already females salted around in various countries SOF doing that. Send a woman in, because they don't have that rock-hard look most of SOF do.

[cascadecombo]

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Plus, Afghanistan is a Patriarchal society. Women aren't involved in the political aspect, unless one wants to indoctrinate them with feminist value, etc

Now I have limited understanding as to how much they actually participate, and granted this is mostly for the Kabul central govt not the taliban areas but.

Where you would be right, small councils are almost exclusively all male in regards, those are also generally limited to single villages or small regional areas.

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The Meshrano Jirga consists of a mixture of appointed and elected members (total 102 members). Sixty-eight members were selected by 34 directly elected Provincial Councils, and 34 were appointed by the President. President Karzai’s appointments were vetted by an independent UN sponsored election board and included 17 women (50%), as required by the Constitution.

Really makes me wonder how much you actually know before posting, or just regurgitating what you see on Facebook.

[tomzestatlu]

I don´t understand this. The only reason why there should be SOF made from women is in case, when there is a kitchen, that needs special operations.

[la bodhisattva]

If the oral and written history of all humanity across all cultures have taught us one thing, it's that female-only groups thrive in the areas of cooperation and efficiency.

Of the 171 standing militaries in the world, none place any real reliance on females in general, let alone legit combat. The audacity of Norway to think it's somehow the only nation clever and "progressive" enough to tap this "instrumental" fighting force.

[ivansirko]

(04-17-2017 10:04 AM)bacon Wrote:  



What do you expect when a brunnete version of Ellen Degeneres is the Minister of Defense.

[LastKing]

Love those blondies, let's see some pics.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

This absolutely nuts - like Antifa who sends their women to the front of the lines.

They should learn from the experience of the Israelis - their army and country is beset by the same feminist virus - you gotta watch those harpies scream as an Israeli officer dishes out the truth.

[Zanardi]

I don't mind having a Jegertroppen. I'd like them to catch me and take me to their special ops HQ to show me how good they are at what they're naturally able to do Social proof and no game ftw!

[Simeon_Strangelight]

There is only one all-female military unit that would serve a great purpose:



The R & R Pleasure Unit. Pay them 10-20k/month and let them serve the pussy-starved men. I am sure that you can hire some nympho-girls with super-high libido who would even enjoy serving young men. You could even have different Pleasure Squads - for the Navy, for the Rangers, for the Navy Seals etc.

That would actually increase morale and improve the combat force of a country.

Pleasure unit with indoor-uniform:

[Transsimian]

(04-19-2017 02:12 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

have different Pleasure Squads - for the Navy,

Sounds like another job for the boys

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Well, at least the military will be able to save 23% on salaries.

[easternwomenrule]

That's right... "SPECIAL" forces!

[Ironbutt62]

This makes me want to re-enlist. ;-)

[Germanicus]

(04-17-2017 04:41 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(04-17-2017 03:58 PM)cascadecombo Wrote:  

Quote:

"When [Norway] deployed to Afghanistan we saw that we needed female soldiers. Both as female advisers for the Afghan special police unit that we mentored, but also when we did an arrest," said Col. Frode Kristofferson, the commander of Norway's special forces. "We needed female soldiers to take care of the women and children in the buildings that we searched.

Especially in relation to this, in the Afghan culture women will not speak to men, and in order to communicate with outside forces in a place where spec ops would be, the women, at minimum a translator, is needed to interact with them.

No. This is just bullshit to justify their femininity.

What worked better than a woman talking to the women was a US Marine aiming an M4 at their heads. Or aim it at the husband/fathers head. Let him tell the woman.

Also notice the use of the word " mentored." You "mentor" raw food chefs about farm to table produce and other lgbt issues.

The Jergentroppen is too progressive to call it "training" anymore. Sad.

Aloha!

"Mentoring" is a fashionable military journal term that senior officers use for teaching soldiers from 3rd world armies how to be weak and lose wars. Whoops, I mean how to fight effectively and ethically like our benevolent, human rights focused 1st world militaries.

For example you, as a NCO of the American, Brit, Aussie, or Canadian army would "mentor" Iraqi or Afghan soldier Aziz on how to shoot with his brand new M4 or M16 rifle paid for either by the local government or by the US taxpayer (that money then going straight into the bank account of Colt or some US .gov agency's slush fund.) You're also supposed to "mentor" Aziz that killing people is bad and he shouldn't shoot anyone unless he absolutely has to and then have a good cry about it afterwards.

Western officers "mentor" Iraqi/Afghan officers how to use sound military tactics-- to somehow win while ensuring no one gets hurt too much.

I'm not even kidding. I know this because I've done it.

[Germanicus]

My two cents about the Norwegian military and women in combat roles/SOF forces.

Norway's army actually isn't half bad. They have good equipment and a lot of their troops are some of the few masculine men left in that country. Them trying to put together a SOF unit of females is an attempt to virtue signal on the one hand and trying to use their more capable and accomplished females in some meaningful way on the other. Not to mention that Norwegian SOF guys now get to hang out with hot, fit, younger girls. It gets them access to more pussy so they're ok with it.

Could this unit be useful for something? Yeah, if it's for very specific tasks like intelligence work or dealing with female civilians/refugees in war zones. Not for front line combat or commando raids. That straight up isn't happening unless they've gone 100% retarded in Oslo. I've seen women employed by SOF units in roles that they were actually capable of contributing to the unit. But it was always a support role, never as an operator.

[Roosh]

During training, a female solider manages to throw a mock grenade BACKWARDS. Everyone has a good laugh after. So funny.

[url=https://twitter.com/BakedNorwegian/status/859137639919779840][/url]

[Simeon_Strangelight]

< I heard from a Norwegian that the reason why there is little opposition to this token troop is because those women are not going anywhere near real combat.

They are essentially being used as glorified baby-sitters for taking care of women and children during stints like in Afghanistan.

Still funny to see them laughing about mock-killing herself and a few of her other elite troopers.